Why NO ONE Speedruns Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness
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Which game do you prefer? XD or Colosseum?
I prefer the characters of Colosseum, but the story of XD!
Wes is 20 times cooler than Micheal, but Shadow Lugia makes up for it
I prefer coloseum for post game , and XD for story
Xd is my favorite pokemon game in the series.
My favorite colosseum didn't return in XD as the Under no longer exists as it caved in. A shame, cause i really like the two colosseum found there. But I prefer XD's story though i wish they could've explore and expand it out a bit more like the wild pokemon etc.
Colosseum I caught shadow entei, full health and paralyzed with a single PokeBall. Did it in front of my friend :)
Nothing Speedrunners hate more than a game working as intended lmao.
Nah, rng
@@vyor8837In an rng based game? Absurd.
@@vyor8837
Nah, rng can be manipulated sometimes. It's definitely games working as intended because if the game works as intended you can't manipulate the randomness to your favor. Well it's either GWaI or unskippable cutscenes/dialogue. Though I have heard that there are some that are appreciated because they're long enough for a bathroom break during a long speedrun.
haha
"what?!? A game is meant to be played in a way that doesn't let me break it apart?!" *Proceeds to throw the biggest manchild tantrum only bested by smash players*
Currently doing a Nuzloke of XD and I've learned a few things from this video.
1. I am now absolutely sure I am going to lose the fight to Grevil.
2. I am absolutely going to lose the fight to Grevil.
Like seriously, I'm running out of Pokémon! I've got a Fearow, a Xatu, a Mighteyena, a Delcatty, a Ninetails, and a Tangela. I won't even be allowed to snag any of the old man's Pokémon because of the rules I put in place!
Poor soul. Too bad I don’t do nuzlockes because I’m too soft hearted.
Man, I love the Greevil fight. It's hard, but it's so fun to get all 6 of his shadow pokemon.
😂= xD
@@zacke.1286For the love of God man, give Pinwheel clause to yourself for Citidark.
It's a third of the game.
5:32
Fun Fact: That boat had a fuck ton of Pokémon on it and Cypher was planning on turning them into Shadow Pokémon.
I like to this this is the same Cypher as in MGS5.
That strong Gen 3 hyper beam smacking foes down with brute PHYSICAL force!
I wish Hyper Beam had a unique property of choosing the higher of a Pokemon's attack or special attack instead of just going special with the split. It was a pretty iconic move on a bunch of early gen Pokemon that it subsequently became largely useless on compared to the identical Giga Impact.
They don't do anything with Shadow Lugia after the boat because Lovrina hasn't truly perfected its purify resistant status until the end of the game. This is also why it dropped the boat in the first place. It's also why the final boss talks about replacing his minions with Shadow Pokemon now that Lugia's 'perfected', like how Shadow Lugia was directed by copters.
So yeah, was fun to learn about how the game works speedrun-wise and of glitches I didn't even know were a thing.
So you said something about the AI I didn't know: boss AI can decide to not do what you expect them to do. I thought they just had standard boss AI, but I also don't think they are on the random system either.
The funny part is I think we currently have everything to know WHY it does this, but I haven't checked myself. We have all the symbols and everything, someone could debug to find out why.
But I have my own theory. Colosseum's AI system has parameters that I called a "divergence" factor. Basically, it's a chance in % where the AI can decide to willingly NOT choose the highest weight decision. My best guess is that it's supposed to simulate an AI's clumsiness, but I don't think this is used much in practice (you'd have to check the data for this, I don't know how much colo uses it).
So I wonder, is it possible XD uses that system? We know a significant portion of colo's codebase ended up in XD so it wouldn't be too surprising if the system was in. What I wonder is is it actually used?
Cause if it is, it could give you odds of decisions. Not sure if it would help though.
yeah, i wouldn't be surprised by this, honestly. i swear there have been times where i switched, anticipating a super effective hit, only for the AI to go for a completely different move that was actually a better choice to use on the pokemon i switched in.
FYI they stole the SS Libra since it had Pokemon on board the ship to convert to Shadow Pokemon
I totally forgot about that!
The crates you push on it are even Pokemon food.
Yup. With Team Snagem being defunct they had to do the job themselves.
Its optimal to lose in pokemon yellow speedruns too, not only is it faster but the Rival's starter's eeveelution changes
lsoe ?
Me: "oh boy I can't wait to see Pules's new video on my favorite Pokemon speedgame!"
Pulse: spends the first 2 minutes explaining why Colo is better
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Justice for XD 😭
I just wanna join the legion and reiterate that this is a great series of videos. Keep doing your thing
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Shadow Luigia is probably still one of the coolest pokemon we will never get in the mainline Pokemon games.
trapped in gen-specific hell alongside cosplay pikachu and spiky-eared pichu my beloveds :(
At least you can transfer it to Gen 8 & 9 for that unique ribbon.
Pokemon go technically has it, but it looks dumb.
@@-libertyprimev1-902One letdown about transfering it all the way is that it will lose the Psycho Boost move. I really hate they started doing this since BDSP...
@@AiramLP10 ah yeah it does huh... That was one of the fun things about transferring up older pokemon, like there was one game (I forget which) that allowed a Grass Type to learn Bubble or something basic but then if transferred to Gen 7 that's a powerful counter move to it's fire weakness.
Oh, that final battle is DISGUSTING.
XD would be a LOT better if the enemy AI during the main story wasn't so bad. I mean, the later stages in Mt. Battle as well as Colosseum orre HAVE the "good" AI, so it does exist .... it's so weird, really.
For what it's worth, even all the way back in Red and Blue you could purposely lose the first rival fight if you so desired. No clue if it's faster or not.
its faster to win that fight, because the rival will most likely use a bunch of howls/tail-whip etc
And even if you lose and it was faster, you lose out on the exp needed to reach level 6.
Wish I could play these games on switch. They look awesome
6:17 i don't think you need to equip the item. Just use it on the Eevee.
every time he called XD a "diet version of colosseum" I was like "what are you talking about, XD is a longer main story"
Exactly. If anything, Colo is essentially the beta version of XD.
Colo had cheats and work around, mostly every content creator uses cheats and hacks and hack IN Pokémon or items to their advantage, or manipulate RNG to be able to even play. Crazy how you won’t see anyone actually go into a game and play as intended for the clear. Sad actually lol theirs no more true gamers, we really a dying breed, the people who had fun getting stuck at certain points, just to grind, or get a lucky crit, then it’s pure adrenaline after you FINALLY beat that part you’ve been stuck on. That’s not a feeling anymore, they just pull up charts and shit to make sure they get exact Pokémon they want.
@@boookythegodSo you want people to always bash their heads against a metaphorical brick wall instead of learning how the game works and figuring out how to make it work in their favor?
@@LloydTheZephyrian again, play the game as intended. If you need to manipulate to have fun, you’re a cornball. It’s really that simple lol that’s the problem in gaming, mf suck and they wanna make the game work for them, if you gotta do that, maybe you don’t like the game as is and need a crutch to enjoy it. Elden ring is the perfect example, hard asf, but the more you play the better you become. Imagine playing Pokémon and everyone has the same squad… fun or not? Definitely not to me.
@@boookythegod I'm one that's all for bugs that add to the potential of gameplay. Combos and special cancels in fighting games were initially unintended exploits in Street Fighter II, but players enjoyed how good it felt to combo their opponents. Now the concept of combos is the cornerstone of the genre 30 years later. There's also quasiconnectivity in Minecraft's redstone, which is absolutely a bug and not intended, and yet it's such a massive boon to redstone that it's basically been adopted as a feature. Then there's something like Breath of the Wild, where its sandbox is genuinely made even better because of bugs and glitches that add new potential to both normal gameplay AND speedruns. And there can be genuine skill found in properly using bugs, some which have to be perfectly timed and positioned in order to make sure it goes as intended.
While I can agree Elden Ring is a solid game (even though I don't like how awkwardly stiff its combat feels), speedruns seem to usually devolve into using the same strats every time because a specific weapon just has super strong stats and comes with some powerful ability on a specific old patch, plus things like abusing a lot of major bugs to cut travel time to an absolute minimum. I dount that's how a normal player would play the game, though, so I see nothing wrong with it.
5:00 got me so good 😂
3:15 Is Earleon a new gen 10 Eeveelution?
It's his nickname for the Espeon since he intends to use it to beat the game quickly.
Weird how this popped up, just started playing XD again earlier this evening. Was thinking about it for awhile, but saw a Facebook post also mention XD. XD is my favorite Pokemon game.
Same here. It just occurred to me about an hour ago that I may want to speedrun XD, and then this video pops up in my recommended. Talk about strange.
This game was childhood so excited to see u talk abt it
I quite literally asked myself this question this week and now this video pops up wow. I never even googled the question or voiced it outloud so no it wasn't my phone listening
Damn your videos are always great!
hearing "during the test" in the intro of this video made my day lol
I'm so attached to the song ngl. 😂 I love putting in the "explanation portions" of a video!
OGs remember the original thumbnail for this video
Around the 14:15 onward mark, what's the name of the song used there? I want to listen to it a bunch.
Fun fact at one point as a kid I thought stat stages were a permanent one stat boost or detriment... I hope someone enjoyed this.
I remember feeling like that. Made me consider not playing the game anymore.
I didn't expect my choices of espeon as my partner and teddiursa as my secondary partner to be so good, but I beat the game mainly spamming bite with espeon and return with the ursaring my teddiursa turned into.
essential oils work in real life, if by "work" you mean "smell really good". i haven't needed to buy perfume in years because i can just dab a few drops of Cherry Blossom on myself and smell fantastic for a fraction of the price. a Vivid Scent indeed
Don't apply oils directly to the skin
This is the only Pokémon game I never beat as a kid
"The lack of AWESOME glitches"
ah yes, speedrunners
The very first game let you lose the first two rival battles, long before XD Gale of Darkness.
your forgetting something about shadow end. its a base 120 damage move and its 2x damage to any non shadow pokemon. so thats a base 240 damage attack straight to your face, or the equivalent of an explosion right to your face every time it hits. that move is ungodly strong but it deals 1/2 the users current hp in damage every time it hits. still though its quite a scary move to come across.
I still find it teally funny that the final boss, has 4 of the (arguably in exeggutor and rhydon) top 5 best pokemon in gen 1 comptetive and then the bird who are either a miss or zapdos lmao
This makes me want to play XD so badly. I didn't like Colosseum as a kid because I thought the graphics were bad and the story was cheesy, but the cheesiness grew on me.
A Psychic-type Pokemon needs HP Psychic?
Whut
It’s stronger than Confusion & Psybeam (assuming it’s maxed out at 70), and the TM is acquired very early.
my rotten brain for a second was like "tf is Earleon- oh."
What is the opening music you used? It’s just on the tip of my tongue 😅😅
Crypto Lugia lifting a Ship is actually a nice throwback ot the Adventures Manga where normal Lugia literally threw Ships around with his Psychic Powers to attack people. I shit u not - Manga Lugia is terriyfing and awesome
The manga is just more metal overall. Got one Gen 1 villain leveling a city with his Pokémon, and another battling with Mewtwo thanks to their psychic bond. So many cool ideas I’d love to see in the next inevitable Kanto remake.
@@piratebear3126 True the Blain&Mewtwo Partnership was great, specially because u can see that Mewtwo actually respects Blain. Its really cool
Teddiursa is amazing❤
Are the odds of capture so bad that they don't just try to catch the Exeggutor or something? Just wondering.
Hi, what's the name of the music that begins at 3:03 please?
Espeon is for ever one of my favorite pokemon cause of these two games
idgaf about speedruns i just want them to remake this game. It was one of the best pokemon games of it's time. Colosseum was ok but this was their magnum opus.
I would love to play these games again, put it on switch dammit xD
why is the game laughing? is there a reason to the emoticon?
I actually did know that you don't have to beat Exol at ONBS! My friend lost when we played it together.
Just make sure you don't catch, or KO the Mawile, first.
@@TheShiningEnergyuh, whys that, mawhile is quite shit in this gen, especially it's move pool
so it can escape.@@dragonmaster3030
03:15 what? Every battle is not a double battle though. It's the main reason I love it more than Colosseum
which ones, aside from the tutorials, wild pokemon battles, bingo, or the battle CDs, out of curiosity? even against trainers that use only a single pokemon, it's still set up as a double battle with your side using two pokemon
@@Zabe_B Mt. Battle or maybe that first battle with Chobin? lol
I LITERALLY saw someone speedrunning XD last week 🗿
"Normally boss battles are programmed to KO pokemon that are able to be KO'd with their strongest move" False the move is randomly chosen between whichever moves will KO the target.
Just a nitpick but there are too many pokemon players that don't understand how the AI chooses their moves.
I would have liked to actually see gameplay of a boss fight where the Ninjask uses Dig on an Umbreon/SilverWind a Flareon. Because that sounds like straight up random AI.
Give me a year for this game to finally let me finish a run of Flareon 🗿
10:33 literally the first Pokémon game’s first battle lets you lose on purpose, it wasn’t a new concept in gen 3
Unfortunately a lot of: story, back tracking, double battles, level grinding, dialogue, cut scenes, catching, & animation doing a speed-run would seem super difficult. Not to mention beating some very difficult battles seems super difficult
So cool that they use Teddiursa. It makes sense. When I played XD, I caught plenty of pokemon but only EVER used my Eeveelution and the Teddiursa/Ursaring from that first battle.
whats the song at 2:40? i swear ive heard it before
it's Star Festival from Super Mario Galaxy :3
Getting xd on
Something something Werster Red fights
The Orre games need a remaster
10:30 I actually did know that you could lose to Exor, what are the other 2 fights you can lose?
Zook seems to be one of them based on the clips in the video
Miror B’s first battle where he has voltorb.
However, voltorb lacks a flag that makes it respawn meaning that losing this battle makes you unable to get another chance at voltorb, and you are therefore unable to get dragonite too
@@yoshiwoollyworld which Zook battle can you lose to, the first or the second?
@@SARGON439 first battle you cannot snag zangoose, might be either battle but idk
@@yoshiwoollyworld It's the first battle with Zook. I've lost it before.
you didn't explain at all why they need hidden power psychic.
is it so they can manipulate the rng?
is it so they will avoid knocking out one or more pokemon?
what is it?
Better than Confusion/Psybeam and faster animation!
@@PulseEffects oh faster animation.
okay thanks.
@@videakias3000 Hidden Power also has a base power of 70, so it's its strongest psychic move until it gets psychic.
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718Gen 3 Hidden Power had a varying base power, determined by the stats/IVs/Nature of your pokemon, no?
@@eyemaknut yes in gen 2-5 the base power and type were based on IV, so with the right IV hidden power would be a 70 bp psychic move, stronger than Psybeam and with a very fast animation.
In Gen 6 and 7 the type was still based on IV, but it always had the same power.
First you had my curiosity. NOW you have my attention
I LOVE POKEMON XD: GALE OF DARKNESS
Earleon? xD 3:16
P3 music, hell yeah!
you can manually use the sun shard on eevee to make it evolve immediately iirc
I tried a run where I didn't evolve Eevee at all to see if there was any alternate dialogue for doing that. There was not, but it was fun.
there's no way this is true. i always go umbreon as a casual player, but when you try to use the moon shard, you get the "this is not usable right now" message like when you try to use a held item or another item that is not able to be used. and if this was true then speedrunners would absolutely be doing it instead
@@Zabe_B It has to be done when Eevee's friendship is maxed out.
@@excalibur493pretty sure you are at max friendship but using the item doesn’t work
@@yoshiwoollyworld Hmm, that's weird. Maybe try waiting a little longer. I actually beat XD without evolving my Eevee or taking it out of my team recently. No special hidden dialogue for that, though. :/
Noone? Like Peter Noone from Herman’s Hermits?
Sigh. Please do not do that.
Pokémon XD does allow you to duplicate pokémon balls using a glitch. It’s not the same as the previous game, it’s different but I got it to work on original hardware and emulator.
10:50 I deadass always won
Gravity rush music
Why not fuck up the last boss using the masterball to delete one of its pokemons?
Master Ball takes a decent amount of time to grab.
not the eggi
Missed opportunity to say "if i were to say something about pokemon xd speedruns it would be: we just don't do those"
Pokemon Games really have a speedrun curse huh.
"noone"
XD is still my fav tho. Not for Aidsrunning, but as a game.
No one is two words
Casually I totally prefer XD. Speedrunning, I think the least infuriating game is Colo, but I kinda like just destroying everything with Espeon and Bearmageddon. I might make a save of a good run and just run it for fun.
10:33 ... every game since Gen 1 has let you lose battles on purpose?
XD is one of my favorite Pokemon games of all time. Sorry it doesn't make a great speedrun for you.
i will never understand why some people like to do speedruns..
Same reason people do Nutzlockes or any similar thing: for the challenge. Beating a pokémon game isn't that hard, but adding restrictions can make it.
Who the hell is Noone?
"Even worse things than Team Plasma of B2W2"
Bro, Team Plasma was a joke in B2W2. You want to talk about a main-line team with some stage presence and diabolical plans? How about Team Galactic LITERALLY BLOWING UP THE WORLD TO CHAIN AWAY POKEMON?!
What the heck are you on about? Team Galactic wanted to change the world not destroy it. Cyrus used everyone for his selfish gain of a new world. Which he did by escaping into the Distortion world. Team Flare wanted straight genocide, now thats an organization
hello
Earlyeon
noone is not a word, it is spelled "no one".
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danganronpa music too? Great taste
So sad these game are so stupid expensive nowdays😒
Who the hell is Noone
ok
So XD is a better game because they fixed shit and made it unpredictable. Haha
hi
The first issue is not having infinite poke balls glitch? That’s REALLY an issue? This is why gaming is doomed, mf just wanna hack and shit NOT play the game as intended because… what’d you say? It’s hard? Crazy right? Insane to think games actually need difficulty huh? Title got me interested, paused commented and clicked off immediately after first minute.
Forcing a "gamer" agenda like this is what kills fun in gaming. 😂 Maybe if you tried to open your mind up to something new, you'd find a fresh experience in gaming.
@@PulseEffects I played ALOT of games, from Atari to Series X. Missed completely with that tbh, any good game, is a hard game. Reason Elden ring got game of the year few years ago, reason baldurs gate got it. If it’s easy, it’s not worth the hype and easily forgotten. On the other hand, YOU REMEMBER GAMES THAT ARE DIFFICULT. It’s okay tho lol not all of us are true gamers, some of us are corny and want fast food content 🤣 Nobody who complains about XD would EVER be a good gamer to me LMAO
@@boookythegod "Nobody who complains about XD would EVER be a good gamer to me LMAO" and thats okay, because no one respects the opinion of a person like you anyway...
@@RoseArkana Like me? lmao someone whose actually good at gaming? Crazy, personally I like my games with the need for actual skill 😂
@@boookythegod Yeah you being good at gaming doesn't make you a more respectable person. What a shocker. And congrats on proving the point of the person you were arguing against, oh and whatever you'll respond with to me will do the exact same thing