Gregory Bateson - From Versalles to Cybernetics (1966)

A lecture given by Bateson in April, 21, 1966, to the "Two Worlds Symposium", at California State University, Sacramento.
Bateson's reflects upon twenty century History in terms of critical moments in which profound attitudinal changes are produced. According to him, the most significant events were the writing of the Treaty of Versailles and the cybernetic breakthrough.
Copyright status unknown.
You can hear the unedited and uncutted recording here:
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You can find a transcription in ‘Steps to an Ecology of Mind’ (1972, University of Chicago):
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Spanish translation (CC) by me.

[@rooruffneck]

Back in 1993, I was in high school and I saved up my money to buy a set of audio tapes of Bateson speaking at Esalen. I loved these cassettes and listened to them over and over. At some point, they were lost. I never thought that maybe they have been uploaded somewhere online. There's hope! Can't wait to listen to this lecture.

[@norabateson8985]

love this talk. So on point.

[@differentme.2024]

So on point and more and more every day.. Nora. What future has been created for the children and the children's children in Gaza? and what blind spots do the Israeli Government have about the safety, and happiness of their children and children's children ?

[@corporeidad]

¡Una joya ésto! ¡Las veces que leí esa conferencia!
Explicó la posmodernidad antes de que inventaran la palabra.
¡Un capo Bateson!

[@dejadefumar256]

Muchas gracias por compartir este video, es fascinante. Yo no sabía nada de este gran pensador, ahora voy a buscar mas. ¡Saludos desde EE. UU.!

[@claudiusvanwyk8330]

Jan Smuts was aghast at the conditions imposed on the Germans at Versailles - read Anthony Lentin "Jan Smuts - a man of courage and vision." I think Bateson missed Smuts' holism which provided the framework for systems thinking, cybernetics and system dynamics. Yet his point is important - according to Michael Hall: "Where there's a frame there's a game." His analogy of setting the thermostat - getting 'trapped' higher level relationships (frame) and the implicit warning of being framed by computation - warning of AI.

[@Spiralnois3]

Thanks very much for this document!!!!

[@joaoyapur1247]

gracias!!

[@edwardowen2]

Thank you very much for uploading this. Do you know where to find more Bateson audio lectures?

[@luisgmerida]

Try Internet Archive. It is where I found this recording. I think there are at least two or three more there.

[@F--B]

@@luisgmerida Please consider uploading them to your channel

[@giselademonte2229]

gracias por compartirrlo. Por qué solo están los subtitulos en español al comienzo? Dón de se podría conseguir subtitulada en español? Gracias

[@luisgmerida]

Los subtítulos se introducen manualmente y es algo que hago cuando encuentro el tiempo. De todos modos, hay una transcripción de esta conferencia en ‘Steps to an Ecology of Mind’, publicada en español por la editorial Gedisa: gedisa.com/ficha.aspx?idcol=300&cod=302391&titulo=Una-unidad-sagrada&aut=Bateson,%20Gregory#.Y3IIGnbMKDI

[@giselademonte2229]

@@luisgmerida Muchísimas gracias por ambas cosas (la traducción y el enlace). ! Saludos cordiales desde Argentina

[@corporeidad]

@@giselademonte2229 Ojo, ese link es a otra compilación, no a "Pasos hacia un ecología de la mente" donde está la conferencia. Igual ya la habrás encontrado, porque está en internet.

[@johnbrengelman1226]

yes

[@danzamolecular]

Hola! Lo tenes subtitulado en castellano? Gracias

[@luisgmerida]

Empecé a subtitularlo, pero apenas avancé unos minutos. De todos modos, imagino que puedes encontrar la transcripción de esta entrevista en alguna traducción de ‘Steps to an Ecology of Mind’.

[@ruslanivanov5542]

Hi! Where did you find this record?

[@luisgmerida]

Hi! You can find the original recordings in Internet Archive. Check the link in the description!

[@cherihausmann]

Essentially Bateson was a polymath.