Broadhead Testing 2023 Deception vs Reality

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  • Here's why 95% of the clickbait broadhead tests show results that make NO SIGNIFiCANT DIFFERENCE when you're hunting. "The target defines the Test". So, stop falling for the clickbait garbage on other channels.
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  • @edashby4399
    @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Perhaps the best - and most important - video you have made to date. One more thing for everyone to think about: what happens with those varied impact angles when your shot is at a quartering angle, or from an elevated shooting position shooting downward, or from that elevated position shooting downward at a quartering angle. Consider the bone impact angle when shooting downward at an animal facing directly away - or towards - you. The ribs curve dramatically towards the top and the broadhead impact angle on the ribs becomes extremely steep. That's why I spent so much time testing broadhead skip angle to determine how overall broadhead shape, edge-bevel type, and broadhead tip design affect a broadhead's skip angle. It's the most overlooked broadhead design factor.

    • @rogersimonds1812
      @rogersimonds1812 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ed, thanks for chiming in! And thanks for the science that you did with your studies! I learned about your study from the Jeremy Johnson’s book “Can’t Lose Bowhunting” back in 2017. RF does a great job getting the message out and I love his stuff. Hope you are doing well and God Bless!

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is possible that sometimes arrow deflection can be your friend? Instead of trying to bulldoze thru a bone, a broadhead designed to ricoche off a bone, even at an angle, may allow the arrow to continue moving forward and send the arrow thru the vitals, instead of coming to rest in a bone and going nowhere?

    • @edashby4399
      @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Kurtdog63 When the arrow redirects, for any reason, all control is lost. That redirection will. sometimes, work to the bowhunter's advantage, assuming his shot was misdirected to start with. Redirection is random, and a random outcome is what we all strive to prevent. We want the outcome to be predictable as often as possible.

    • @timmclongdick
      @timmclongdick ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for all of your research and contributions to bow hunting, Dr. Ashby.

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@edashby4399 Speaking of reducing randomness.... Something I mentioned to Troy was comparing a loud bow to a quieter bow. Is it better to have a quieter bow that an animal may, or may not react to, or a loud bow that almost guarantees them to react almost ever time, to anticipate on how to aim. When animals are really close, this becomes less critical of course, but when an animal is at the maximum effective distance of a particular arrow velocity, their ability to move substantially is amazing, taking the arrow impact out of the kill zone. My calculation is based on animal reaction time at 1/4 of a second. I call it the HBTG VALUE .. or Hit Before They Get... It is based on where the arrow is down range in 1/4 of a second. Arrow velocity in FPS divided by a factor of 12 gives the yardage. Examples are a longbow at 120 fps yields 10 yards. A recurve shooting 150 fps yields 12.5 yards. A compound at 240 yields 20 yards. A crossbow at 360 yields 30 yards. If an animal is passed these ranges for that particular arrow speed, a deer type animal's reflexes may take the arrow out of the kill zone. The last 2 bucks I shot did not react at all to the shot. Four out of the last 5 doe I shot reacted explosively.

  • @ThirdLawPair
    @ThirdLawPair ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I'm a scientist, and I can tell you that the second most common error everyone makes when doing these "experiments" is not using realistic targets. Good job.

    • @stick__shooter
      @stick__shooter ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But how do you quantify the data on a realistic target with no uniformity? No "realistic" target is identical. There is always a variance in size, weight, bone structure, distance, angle, etc.

    • @edashby4399
      @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@stick__shooter The same way we do in clinical trials of medications - outcome-driven studies. "There is always a variance in size, weight, bone structure, distance, angle, etc." Doesn't that sound a lot like what we face in real hunting? Isn't what type of performance is the likely outcome in that type of situation precisely the type of information we want to know?

    • @deef2779
      @deef2779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the biggest elephant in the data industry room is the over emphasis on repeatable predicability by way of conditional limit setting.

    • @deef2779
      @deef2779 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dr Ashby's principles provide an excellent solution for the inability to isolate limit setting conditions which are only attainable on narrow spreadsheets.

    • @WMBCS
      @WMBCS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stick__shootertheir is no control group and inconsistent testing

  • @timothythompson3029
    @timothythompson3029 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm a mold maker. There's this proprietary steel from Uddeholm called Vancron 40. It's the most durable toughest steel I've ever worked. We use it on molds that have steel on steel sliding functions that are extremely high wear. I built a set of cavities out of 420 SS and we got 50k cycles out of it. Switched to Vancron 40 and got 1 million cycles. Also I'd recommend Elmax. I normally harden it at 60 RC. Also very durable.

  • @islandpainter3964
    @islandpainter3964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched Dudley and ranchfairy podcast, i cant believe how he was so fixed on expandable broadheads , saying that modern archery equipment has enough power to blow through anything.
    He is knowledgeable for sure but man he totally disregarded your side of the story. I would say rude to be honest. I admire your patience and calm demeanor. It served you well my friend.

  • @jeffreyfickert4818
    @jeffreyfickert4818 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I feel like if I spent one day shooting with you, I’d be 10 times the archer I am now. I dipped my my toe into the high FOC pond last year and had some amazing results on the deer I shot. And this year I’m doing a full dive into the deep end. I got the Sirius test kit and getting ready to order my full arrows and broadheads. Anyone I talk to that has trouble with penetration or has any kind of question or doubts about their arrow setup I send a link to your channel.

  • @ericwiitala5407
    @ericwiitala5407 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video Troy. I appreciate your time and energy creating these videos. Incredibly educational. 🏹👍

  • @michaelbushey2787
    @michaelbushey2787 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    They may be pricey, but I shoot iron will single bevel. I finally got sharpening tools for them, so as long as I don't lose them. They will last me multiple seasons and animals. Good luck this year everyone!

    • @chasingthefish9042
      @chasingthefish9042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You get the regular ones? I did, I was surprised how small they are.

  • @thomasrobitaille9022
    @thomasrobitaille9022 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is an amazing demo! Laying it out real world! Love your channel and your Broadheads keep it coming!!!

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! Will do!

  • @dougroush5001
    @dougroush5001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!
    I appreciate your hard work, not only in your testing, but in putting these videos together.
    Very informative and in an entertaining way.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @Hackmo72
    @Hackmo72 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video ranch fairy. No one on TH-cam can come close to informative and detailed anatomy for hunter's like you give

  • @jonbrown9490
    @jonbrown9490 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a great video! You're 100% right about polishing the edge on your broadheads. If you leave your edge coarse but "sharp" the micro serrations will be more likely to deform and burr. This is why ultra high end cutlery and tools( think japanese woodworking chisels) uses steel that has a very fine grain structure. When you have a very tight grained steel it will be stronger but will also take a much finer( keener) edge. A keener edge is stronger because the micro serrations are closer together and provide support to each other and dont break when they contact hard material. A good example would be a finely polished hand plane blade used for hardwood wood working or the edge of a scalpel as connective tissue is very abrasive as well. So, if your edge is finely polished ( 4k grit and above) and you hit hair, sand, hide, bone etc. It will stay sharper on its way into the body cavity. This is true even with cheap steel...though quality abrasion resistant knife grade steel( aeb-l, 440c, 1075, 52100 etc ) will definitely fare even better.

  • @timfoster7979
    @timfoster7979 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great Video! Came from now with delta heads to crossbow and rages. Lack luster results lately so I am going back to 2 blade and heavy for deer. It’s been in the back of my mind and you just pushed me over with this vid. Thanks

  • @cupeater
    @cupeater ปีที่แล้ว +4

    good stuff, Troy! despite you being destined to usually be swimming upstream, we need ya. keep it coming!

  • @johnbarbee4226
    @johnbarbee4226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. I work in the cardiology field in Houston. Enjoy your approach to explaining.

  • @justmeva
    @justmeva ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best and more importantly the most informational video that I have ever seen. Thank you.

  • @gradyfuller4880
    @gradyfuller4880 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the great information that you put out. Thank you for your help Sir.

  • @johnathonarnold9070
    @johnathonarnold9070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got me off mechanicals and made me start sharpening a year ago, it’s already better. I’ll be getting my test kit soon. You had me with the curved shape at broadside. Mind blown

  • @mikeb6555
    @mikeb6555 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RF, ANOTHER top notch presentation! THIS is what actually happens when your arrow contacts the animal! THANK YOU so much for your "research".

  • @fredwalton2228
    @fredwalton2228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Troy, New believer here. Could tell yah some good flapper story’s some day. Making me look at rib cages differently. Keep the educational content coming. Been deer hunting 50 years so its true. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

  • @davehalm7362
    @davehalm7362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent explanation RF. Always spot on!

  • @raymondcava4669
    @raymondcava4669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    right on Troy , All bowhunters must see this video. Like you said it’s not what the broadhead does to the pig but what the pig does to the broadhead that will determine A quick kill or a wounded pig.Thank you for posting

  • @braintanningsinew4888
    @braintanningsinew4888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. Your education and expertise are awesome to behold.

  • @williamworkman1468
    @williamworkman1468 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was very useful Troy! Thank you!

  • @johndaileytraditionalarcher
    @johndaileytraditionalarcher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good stuff!!! Never thought about the angles on the body of an deer or pig. Makes sense why alot of arrows deflect including with the animal moving all at the same time. Thanks for the video

  • @jeffboutilier5075
    @jeffboutilier5075 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just sent you pictures on Instagram of a buck I shot with a rage hypodermic, the blade folded over after hitting one rib. That was the moment I started listening to what you were saying.

  • @trxe420
    @trxe420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Living in GA, hunting hogs for years here, I have to agree with this. You really have to be on your game with your equipment and techniques to hunt these ethically. I can't tell you how many hogs I have processed or seen processed that have literal broadheads or arrow shafts from previous shots sticking out of them.

    • @paulvega9893
      @paulvega9893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great comment same here. I am over 62 years old. This a very true comment. I agree. Been hunting since early teens hogs in Florida. Seen the same.

  • @adamhowel3683
    @adamhowel3683 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hands down the best video on broadhead lethality.

  • @paulvega9893
    @paulvega9893 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome job I have said the same for decades. I call it chest Kevlar like a bullet proof vest.

  • @bobcowan1943
    @bobcowan1943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great information, so many grab a pack of broadheads at Wally World in Aug, fling a couple arrows, then wonder why they are missing or getting poor results in a bad hit.

  • @kevinredford6688
    @kevinredford6688 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the information keep up the good work

  • @tjb50cal
    @tjb50cal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well said and great video, love the attitude

  • @blind-dateoutdoorssportsma547
    @blind-dateoutdoorssportsma547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best video there is with regards to broadheads. Every Rage and other mechanical broadhead user should watch this. Thanks.

  • @papaschuette
    @papaschuette ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You just laid this out perfectly. Excellent explanation of how the different angles affect the shot. Definitely a great way to show that a cut on contact broadhead, with the right steel, is the best way to go.

  • @NW_Outdoorz
    @NW_Outdoorz ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Troy, I do love the information that you put out and share. I do agree that the metal being used in your broadhead is critical to be successful in recovery of a animal. Listening to you about the animals how they are not flat it’s something that I knew but never thought about until you said something. It dose make sense on how your never truly broadside because of the physical characteristics of a animal. So thank you for making me stop and actually make a conscious effort to think about it. Also same day I’d love to go down to Texas and do some hog hunting. I know your not a mechanical broadhead guy but I want to see how Grim Reaper (carni-four is what I’m currently using along with hades 3 blade) holds up on pigs vs a Bull Elk / Mule Deer.

  • @fightthelies4349
    @fightthelies4349 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love going into the shops near me and explaining how much better a 680 grain high foc arrow penetrates. The looks from the twizzler tossers gets me everytime. Was also asked about my 150 grain practice tips.

    • @deef2779
      @deef2779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fun to see how a fiat currency system shapes perception and human behavior. Some folks just love bullshii and adapted their definition of durability to accommodate the song "I'll buy a new one". Fun times.

    • @Just_AK23
      @Just_AK23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're walking into your shop doing that you are probably an asshole

  • @kurtrutter1611
    @kurtrutter1611 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Proof is in the pudding. RF keep doing what you are for the archery community. We appreciate you👊🏻

  • @johnbrandt3264
    @johnbrandt3264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. As always!

  • @sinepari9160
    @sinepari9160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE magnus BH's! I'm an ironwill man now but killed a ton of stuff with magnus stingers. Love them because they always flew like a field point.. very little tuning required. God did make it easy, if I ever need to field dress a mouse haha. You should do some single bevel fixed testing...not sure if you have, only have so many hours in the day and I love to fish too :) I bet it smells great when they fire up the smoker behind you.

  • @mikeferreira3879
    @mikeferreira3879 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great videos keep em comin

  • @Spearbeard
    @Spearbeard ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Arrows penetrating game are like rockets entering the atmosphere; they must be engineered well to pass through without degrading too quickly.

  • @Antskillet
    @Antskillet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!

  • @allenmccurdy8082
    @allenmccurdy8082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always I love your content

  • @numidianarchers195
    @numidianarchers195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great info - very informative

  • @TheBestLife35
    @TheBestLife35 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent and very informative video. If only everyone put in the effort this man does ! He isn't the hero we wanted, but he's the hero we needed !

  • @stuponfucious7
    @stuponfucious7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate that Lusk tries to measure penetration through ballistics gel as a comparable property of broadheads BUT he does a sharpness/edge retention test by doing a wire cut test before and after shooting through 1/2" mdf and foam. I appreciate seeing the difference in retention between different broadheads.

  • @BigJ7922
    @BigJ7922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Troy. Just got onto a property with some pigs & haven’t taken any for a wile!
    Hey thanks for not saying “Twizlerrrrrrrrs” 37 times and talking‘special’ 🤣

  • @HVACRat
    @HVACRat ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, as if I didn't have enough going through my head at the shot now I have all this stuff as well!

  • @tylershelton2697
    @tylershelton2697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the quartering away shot and aim for that ball joint on the other side. They cant run without heart lungs and 3 legs i even try to blow out shoulders with a rifle. Put em in 2 wheel drive with no gas in the tank

  • @ajsomp
    @ajsomp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can tell you I wish I considered this more before this season. So far I have shot 5 deer with Rage 2” mechanicals. And I can tell you while I’ve killed all 5, 3 of those animals the arrow turned immediately upon impact and headed back towards the rear and came out the guts which made tracking difficult. The entry wounds were massive, which was honestly the only way I was able to track blood. The other two were straight pass throughs and short tracks. My conclusion is that unless you have a flatter angle and broadside shot, the rage broadheads are just a no go. I also recovered the broadheads and each time they were bent, dull, and unusable again. I’ve since switched to fixed blades and will see how the rest of my season goes. Overall, I wish more of this was a discussion and I am a firm believe that mechanicals are just introducing more points of failure and chances to not penetrate and pass through bone and hide. Great video!

    • @billmassing515
      @billmassing515 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If your arrows are doing that your bow is most likely not tuned properly. Ribs don't redirect a rage broadhead. Killed well over 50 deer with them at all angles and never had that happen

    • @kencleg7721
      @kencleg7721 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Expansion broadheads for Turkey and small game pigs elk bear moose things that have 1/4 “ of plaster mud on the hair need something that cuts through and enough wieght to drive strieght

  • @peterreece6547
    @peterreece6547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think that all those fancy mechanical broad heads are designed to catch the archer like some of those fancy fishing fly’s are designed to catch the angler and not the fish. Having said that here in the UK we are not allowed to hunt with any kind of bow and arrow which is a bit silly as I’m allowed to use my sub 12 fp air rifle to shoot small game rabbits etc. so field points is all I need on my light weight bow of 40#.

  • @codiacmulletmulletlife9477
    @codiacmulletmulletlife9477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was hoping you were gonna pin cushion test that pork heap with all the different set ups. Next time you get a boar cape, lay that sucker over a rope and and shoot through the shields, its crazy how dense they are and that's with out all the goodies in between, like what you just showed. Paul Korn has an old video about 9 years ago that is a good hog shield test. Its called mechanical vs fixed broadhead penetration test on his channel, It would be awesome to see your version of that test. Thanks

  • @floridahuntsman7915
    @floridahuntsman7915 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe that scallop edge hold better sharpness . Like a flint point . The peaks protected the sharp valleys. I will try it on a hog . Great job

  • @user-fv3dw7gb7j
    @user-fv3dw7gb7j 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Added 50 grain inserts into my arrow with just a 100 grain magnus stinger.
    I missed 4 out of 4 deer last year, including a giant. Now my arrows are behaving how I want them to. I started out with c.o.c and heavy arrows. I hate that I let someone talk me out of them. I'm going into this season with intent to slay. Thanks for all the content to educate.

    • @user-eo9uj7hd9v
      @user-eo9uj7hd9v 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That 50 grain of brass you didn’t have did not cause you to miss 4 deer out of 4. That’s poor shooting. Period

  • @stevie9361
    @stevie9361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah I'm not hunting concrete blocks or plywood , so these videos are a waste of time an broadheads. Love your work mr fairy

  • @brodystuart9944
    @brodystuart9944 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool how as you mpve forward in the rib cage it get more rigid too. It seems to allow for better penetration up front

  • @StevenRAssmann-tb7ty
    @StevenRAssmann-tb7ty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As the chest contracts as the arrow hits it, it appears to cause the rib bones to move closer together making it even more difficult to penetrate the rib cage.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unless they are exhaling!!!
      But you'd be correct. The "target" ribcage is MOVING!!!!

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for this season. Sirius 300 Gr. bolts (Crossbow) ( no more factory stuff !) 125 Gr. insert and 200 Gr. Tuffheads. I have the feeling we will never go lighter and use mechanicals ever again.

  • @sethpierrepont9738
    @sethpierrepont9738 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video and thoughts, but, so… what does this lead you to recommend as style of broadheads?

  • @leonardcavaretta905
    @leonardcavaretta905 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the channel and content. The reason for the other broadhead tests is to be scientifically consistent when testing each broadhead against each other. Animals are very inconsistent from one to the other and where you hit the animal is even inconsistent from shot to shot. I agree that what you did and testing on animals is the best overall test, but when comparing broadhead to broadhead the only variable can be the head itself to see which is better.

  • @MagVair
    @MagVair ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Troy, Dr Ashby tested a lot of broadheads on dead animals. I think that's a very legitimate test medium (short or live animals).. Could you replicate some of those tests with various broadheads and show the failures? If got a dead pig, and you shoot him with a flapper on a twizzeler? No harm, No foul? But that might drive the point home? Hard evidence of failures? Might be interesting to see it in action?
    Love your channel! Keep up the great work!
    P.S. I'd love to see how a thunderhead performs on a pig!? Hint, Hint...nudge, nudge..? 😁👍

  • @scottjohnstone7520
    @scottjohnstone7520 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hunt pigs on public land and a private cattle ranch in Florida. Most are with the bow and exclusively with the bow on the cattle ranch, none corn fed, it might matter. I'm only in the 100 pigs range at this point, but one anecdotal thing that keeps recurring for me annually is when I get a pig to nervous step as I release or I aim poorly and hit a pig solidly in the guts, low guts specifically, I have without exception gotten a solid blood trail and a pig that doesn't go very far. The last one went 177 feet I measured it on an app. I still can't bring myself to aim for the guts, but when compared to my preferred quartering away broadhead ends up on the opposing leg/shoulder joint shot, I get much less blood often very little and the pigs go further. The only time pigs haven't gone further on the quartering away shot is when the arrow mechanically destroys the leg shoulder joint immobilizing the pig, but there is still less blood for trailing. Have you noticed this? My theory is that the generally constant intestinal distention of wild pigs on poor forage holds the wounds open and the intestines of pigs have a much higher vascular content than any other animal I've ever dissected. Have you noticed this?

  • @Texaslivinoutdoors
    @Texaslivinoutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shot a 2” rage last year hit a rib on both sides of the animal 2” cut on both sides 2 broken ribs and buried my arrow into a cedar🤔 435grain

  • @wcwcgarner2717
    @wcwcgarner2717 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the channel troy. To told me. To have the arrow. Match your poundage and draw length. And to shoot a sharp fixed blade broadhead. And to sharpen them. And i have no problems wt pass throughs. And fast clean kills.

  • @JedlyMT
    @JedlyMT ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RF strikes again! Never really thought about having too WIDE a broadhead. I have a pretty standard 1 1/8" but I see so many companies going wider, 2-2 1/4". Great video!

    • @edashby4399
      @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why I did a lot of testing with narrower-than-standard broadheads but NO testing with BHs wider than what was already available at the time. There were already many problems showing up with the available wide-cut broadheads in the testing, and the wider the heads tested the more the problems. No indicated potential advantages to going even wider. I eventually settled on a narrower-than-standard BH width for my own "serious hunting arrows".

  • @justaguy7997
    @justaguy7997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of these FACTS about curves, angles and moving parts that are thick and tough, greatly reinforces why higher FOC is so important.

    • @edashby4399
      @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have testing planned to further evaluate the relationship between FOC and bone deflection, hopefully starting this year.

    • @justaguy7997
      @justaguy7997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the reply! Just a bit more about my comment on FOC. As Troy commented about an arrow hitting anything that is not truly broadside, higher FOC helps the tail end of the arrow from becoming erratic as it enters an animal at any angle. Also to Troy’s credit is that a very sharp broadhead enters much easier which also helps in preventing the fletched end of the arrow from moving out of its original flight path. These things equal better penetration. Most animals are already in some type of motion and higher FOC is truly helpful. I don’t understand the folks who argue against FOC, not realizing the benefit. Truly baffling!

    • @edashby4399
      @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justaguy7997 My assessment is that you are spot-on and I hope the new testing will document this - with the aid of ABF's high-speed camera.

  • @rwmack3523
    @rwmack3523 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how schwahcker expandables hold up then since they open up after impact. I'd imagine those larger 2"+ cuts open slower than the narrower models and maybe bypass some ribs. Curious...

  • @southernrootsalaskanbranches7
    @southernrootsalaskanbranches7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video sir! Fairy dust for life! 😅

  • @joshdennis8841
    @joshdennis8841 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Troy, I know you probably wouldn’t shoot them being they don’t make a super heavy grain head but what are your opinions on the design and function of the Annihilator broadhead?

  • @joshwinters7290
    @joshwinters7290 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adding to the dynamic aspect of the target. The ribs are constantly expanding and contracting while the target breathes....

  • @peggoty75
    @peggoty75 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey i know you have tested so many but have not seen slick trick series especially grizz trick its a tank would love to see you test it, and hear your opinion

  • @glennl9630
    @glennl9630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video

  • @mikerhodes3563
    @mikerhodes3563 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here in central Louisiana my son and i shoot a lot of pigs with bow and arrow. Im 75 and shoot arrows set up by my son with different broadheads. Lately we been paying more attention to getting the blades scary sharp. I like to spot and stalk public land. No shortage of targets. I like fixed blade and he likes expandables. I can still shoot my compound at 62 lbs , he’s at 70. Shot placement is definitely the key but a razor sharp broad head saves the day on a target that’s always moving.

  • @darwindarwin141
    @darwindarwin141 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If the rib cage wasn’t flexible then CPR would not work , simples

    • @ryan17m
      @ryan17m ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You break the ribs in cpr 9 times out of 10

    • @Chapcorps
      @Chapcorps ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely if you're doing it right!

    • @gwbuffalo_3072
      @gwbuffalo_3072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ryan17m Yep! I’ve had to do cpr, I’m certified, on 2 friends now an both ended up with broken or displaced/dislocated ribs. Unfortunate but better then the alternative.

  • @1bobharvey
    @1bobharvey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video idea for you if you can find the stuff to make it happen. If you could Sawzall off a whole half a pig from one you have killed, then find a slowmo camera and video you shooting fresh halves with a clear ballistics gel block behind the half a carcass. Seeing the broadhead/arrow impact the halves on the outside and inside Would probably lend some useful insight.

  • @justinjackson6696
    @justinjackson6696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally a video you're a pro about........deception!

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well played. I guess all the facts and physiology, tape measures, angled bones, narrow intercostal spaces, and the fact NOTHING is flat in the animal, you blow past that. Average comment. "Pro Tip" You should start a channel and reality us all on what the real facts might be.
      I'll be your first subscriber. Let me know when you start that up.

  • @danielshields34
    @danielshields34 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the intro guitar

  • @johnclark1925
    @johnclark1925 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just subscribed to James Hetfields archery channel. 😂
    😎🤘Good work !

  • @blakeumthun8128
    @blakeumthun8128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a couple mechanicals fail and switched to "fixed" replaceable Muzzy's and was still heartbroken a couple times on deer. Broadside passthrough on a large whitetail and never found the deer and a doe quartering away that I could hear hit the opposite shoulder with no more penetration. It didn't dawn on me at the time, but after hearing you talk about blade strength it really got me thinking about what probably happened. Every arrow I've recovered that had the thin blades was completely chewed up from the just chest cavity and I never had one penetrate a shoulder blade. So, I made the decision to go with thick COC single bevels this year and up my FOC significantly (20%-25% depending on the arrow setup I decide on).

  • @user-ub5ej8ru8o
    @user-ub5ej8ru8o ปีที่แล้ว

    i lost your e mail like the video I'm shooting a 40-pound recurve 460 g arrow 250 up front 24% foc its lighter than i would like but i shoot it good do you think it will work on deer if i only shoot broadside shoots? does a single bevel or a double penetrate the best thanks

  • @sgreene2036
    @sgreene2036 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When RF posts you tell the boss you need to go to the John and will be back in 25:02

  • @davetoms63
    @davetoms63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a well made video.

  • @the.reel.mccoy.
    @the.reel.mccoy. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man do I love Magnus Broadheads

  • @brandonwhitlatch379
    @brandonwhitlatch379 ปีที่แล้ว

    switched to iron will last year after watching hours of your content. damn thing broke first shot..now looking to buy your single bevled heads. but i only want 100 grain

  • @LanceHanlonOutdoors
    @LanceHanlonOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I could come down to the test lab and hunt/ learn even more from you. I would be picking your brain for all information that I could.

    • @edashby4399
      @edashby4399 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay tuned! ABF and The Ranch Fairy are working on the chance for folks to do so. Will be announced soon by ABF.

    • @LanceHanlonOutdoors
      @LanceHanlonOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edashby4399 That's awesome.

  • @daytondugnolle1919
    @daytondugnolle1919 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think swacker broadheads would be a good choice head of what you're talking about. The bristles dull the blade before it gets all the way in a slacker only deploys the sharper blades after it gets inside past the rib cage, I haven't got to use my walkers yet but all the video and the research I've done shows that slackers are good about going through and then opening and the sharp blades cut all the bottle organs and come out

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So, that seems to be a thing. However, TWICE on big feral hogs, I've had the depth of the shoulder meat (not shoulder blade)
      The meat is thick enough that the "cutter" blades started opening BEFORE it hit the ribs.
      Turned into Aquaman Trident and stopped like a brick.
      TWICE.
      So, yeah, if every single time the blades get behind the ribs and everything goes perfect or the meat on the impact side isn't more than about 1.5" thick.
      They yep.
      That's a lot of ifs.

  • @alexlindekugel8727
    @alexlindekugel8727 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ive had mechanicals fail to deploy in deer and it still died in 60 yards with a hole the size of a arrow shaft. was a dubble lung shot. and shashed threw 2 ribs. so im kinda leary that sharpness matters all that much. mass will prity much do all the heavy lifting. but placment still key.

  • @whitetailhunter7202
    @whitetailhunter7202 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why am I craving a bbq pulled pork sandwich?..🤔😂🤣
    Keep it going RF!

  • @sorenjensen8867
    @sorenjensen8867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really excellent 🏹🐷

  • @loganpicou
    @loganpicou ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you possibly do a test where you get a expensive broadhead and a cheap broadhead and get them around the same sharpness using the edge on up sharpness test (that’s just the first one that popped up on google for an example🤷‍♂️) then shoot them through the same thing (ex. Target) then retest them and show how each blade loses the sharpness over so many shots
    Random thing I just thought of and I don’t know if it would work or not🤷‍♂️

  • @bobbybell36
    @bobbybell36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lusk Archery is the only one ive seen who checks blade sharpness before and after dulling

  • @user-vm7yr3zq1z
    @user-vm7yr3zq1z ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Troy! Just shot the Vulcan test kit! Results are.... 300 spine with 100 grain insert and 200 grain tip total weight once 4 fletcher with 4" wrap will be 625.2 grains foc of 19.84% ALSO...... 250 spine 100 grain insert 300 grain tip 4 fletch with 4" wrap total is 757.65 grains foc is 22.47%
    Question is should I raise the insert to 200 grains and shoot the 250 spine with my ranch Fairy 200 grain SB's or shoot the 300 and buy the 300 grain tuffheads? I'm thinking going with the 250 set-up. Unfortunately sirus won't give me the sleeve system with your ez buttons so I'll have to order full custom arrows through them. Wish they'd offer the sleeve system for an upcharge on the ez buttons....... WWRFD????? WHAT WOULD RANCH FAIRY DO?!?!

  • @brandondrane9710
    @brandondrane9710 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ranch ...I was hoping for your opinion and thought on my set up for whitetails
    Slicktrick mag 100g
    Easton axis 400
    Wrap 2in blazer vane
    Lighted knock
    Hoyt ventum pro 30
    62lbs 27in draw
    Any thoughts or info on broadheads or set up would be greatly appreciated thank you for your time

  • @XF111CC
    @XF111CC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this video. Great info.
    But one question comes to mind.
    Indians used various bread heads. Including basically sharpened rocks. Flint rock etc. and many others with great success.
    What am i missing

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flint works. Ride on a horse and shoot a buffalo at 5 feet. Etc.

  • @weaautry6734
    @weaautry6734 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With all of the angles of ribs, meat and bone.... I'd say that's why the broad heads seem to kick towards the stomach instead of towards the vital organs.

  • @THESPORTINGCAMP
    @THESPORTINGCAMP 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like an m&m. Classic 😆

  • @xxtotallyrandombrandonxx3093
    @xxtotallyrandombrandonxx3093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chest thumper outdoors is the only guy who test before and after sharpness that I have seen

  • @benbearkiller
    @benbearkiller ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first started bow hunting I used muzzy broad heads until I shot a bear at 60yds it passed through and stayed in the bear and the bear laid down to die and tore the arrow out completely crushed the broadhead. Once it did that it stopped bleeding. On the blade that wasn’t crushed it was as sharp as a butter knife. Really started looking at the metal type on my broadheads also the thickness too. Also a quartering away deer with a mechanical broadhead literally caused the broadhead to open prematurely and deflect off the rib cage at 20 yds 3 weeks later got a picture of that buck with a cut down its rib cage. 😂 live and learn

  • @rickvann3489
    @rickvann3489 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marden Vortex hands down on whitetail deer. To bad they went out of business. I do have plenty left but my new broadhead is RamCat and have plenty of them

  • @nikolasshay3294
    @nikolasshay3294 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not through the whole video yet but that I'd add a new test to try. Take that flap of hair/skin and push the broadhead through it. Maybe another one with a lot of mud on it. Obviously the result will be more dull but maybe you could do one of those floss pick style tests to better quantify the change. Use the scale to show the amount of force that it takes before the floss pops.

  • @daltonshriner3435
    @daltonshriner3435 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should do a video on your opinion of the high carbon steel g5 montec