IRON WILL WIDE SINGLE BEVEL: Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2023
- This is a test of the 150 gr Iron Will WIDE Single Bevel, 4 blade broadhead.
Here is summary of my 2023 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/the scores of this head posted in parenthesis as well.
Wide SB 150 gr Total Score: 87.04 = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 15 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16.
2. Cut Size (20%, 16.03 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (2.125" = 5.95 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (2.125" = 5.95 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.375" = 4.125 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 19.2 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 175 grams = 10/10 = 9 pts) & Edge Retention (9%, +0 grams = 10/10 = 9 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (6/10=1.2 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 16.81 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (8" = 8 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
( 53 layers=6.81 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (10/10 = 2 pts)
5. Durability (20%, 19 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (10/10 = 12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (8/10 = 4 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts).
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS:
+.5 thick blades (.062")
+.5 single bevel rotation: 38 degrees at 10"
TOTAL SCORE: 87.04 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
Price: $41.65/head
Special Notes:
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Thanks for the review John! Always interesting to see your testing.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Switched solely to iron will broadheads and will never go back, the single bevel have had my attention since they came out. Great owner and company to deal with!!!
Nice
Always awesome cheers 👍
Thank you.
There are sooo many great broadheads.
That was a great test of an amazing broad head. Thank you.
Thank you
Man, that brick test result was awesome! As usual, it's an amazing video!
Thank you
At last! Been wait for this head for my trad rig for soooooo long. Going to be another winner for sure.
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John, your videos never cease to impress me. Awesome heads! As always, thank you for sharing. Take care, and God bless.
Thank you, brother.
@Lusk Archery Adventures you're welcome, brother.
Impressive!
Indeed.
I had to come back to this video again. For me, the iron will wide single bevel is the perfect setup for blind hunting where your shots are with min 60 yards, and you can cream them with a heavy arrow.
Yep. Hard to beat it for sure!
love my iron will heads all I use..thx
They're really nice, that's for sure.
Nice!!
Yep.
Will definitely be purchasing
Nice.
I come to the channel to beg you to review the new iron will and what do you know. Mr Lusk has already delivered !!! Thanks for the great reviews sir ! Best there is !
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I was hoping you would make a video about the new wide! And just like that my dream becomes a reality!
:) Thank you
Yes Sir, that’s a thumper. Impressive flight at 30 too. 👍👍
Yep
Thanks for another good review. I see the IW’s growing in popularity. Premium steel, A2 just rolls off the tongue and says quality.
But I’ve recently went back and watched your review of the Slick Trick Magnum. It’s unbeatable to me, scored the same on sharpness, penetrated 20 more layers in the cardboard and handled the steel plate and concrete with grace. And you get 4 in a pack. Price and quality Is unmatched. I just went outside and shot a few. Right with field points also.
Thanks for the comment. It's nice that there are so many different choices. I love doing the testing to show the merits or weaknesses of all of them.
I used the slick trick for years they worked but I will say the blood trails were always lacking even with perfect shots. Always found the deer within 100 yards but often just found the deer by walking in the direction they went with very little blood. Not sure why just my observation.
Always like your reviews. Iron Will top of the line! I use vented 100gr double bevel. Fly like darts/field points; resharpen like new. Animal bleeds with devastation. Expensive yes, but if after trophy you don't want to be disappointed
Cool
Nice
Nice looking head
Yes indeed
Great job, might just have to add these to my quiver this year. Head to head with IW wide double bevel coming soon?
That would be a good comparison. But the nice thing about my standardized testing, is that you can compare any head to another just by looking at the score sheets.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures have you tested the IW wide with your 2023 method already?
You sure can't go wrong using Iron Will Broadheads.
Yep.
@@LuskArcheryAdventuresdo you have any plans to start a chart based grading system like the Torque Test Channel does with tools?
Your testing is very good but I think you could become the most reliable one stop channel for grading of broad heads if you took that route and I (as well as many others) would have no problem paying for access to that graph/chart
Own the regular single bevel and love it can’t go wrong A-2 steel is a great choice looked at the S-7 heads but the price was very high and A-2 is right behind it and for around 1/3 the price if I can remember right it was something like $100 for the A-2 set and around $300 for the S7 when I bought my A-2 iron will broadheads a couple yrs ago and the S7 is overpriced by at least $100 in my opinion. I use the KME sharpening system with the the hand or system extras for sharpening broadheads it works great though it could take a very little practice on a cheap head before sharpening your hood heads but works fantastic and I can sharpen anything with the system not just broadheads but any knife,scissors and axes whether they’re serrated or recurved to a polished hair popping edge.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
You would be correct about overpriced- S7 is just a simple jackhammer blade steel- able to take more abuse but won’t hold an edge as long as A2 with the same hardness.
I want to see how the kudu broad heads hold up to your new testing
That would be good.
Them are the best broadheads out there
They are certainly top tier.
wow now thats a tuff broadhead i wonder if it would work on my new tenpoint viper 430 crossbow.
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Serious question. What do you get at Whataburger ? Texas Forever !
Thank you for zooming in on the flight forgiveness test.
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For a 30 something degree bevel this is bananas. I really like these guys, I wish I needed broadheads. Gotta damage the ones I have in some elk.
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Great head! Sounded like that M.D.F got left in the rain on an accident. 😁🏹
Haha. Nope...but it did lie on the wet grass.
I shot wides one season and found after a bear and two deer that I didn't get very good blood trails (do you need one when they die within 60yds 🤷♂️) I wonder if that single bevel would help w more blood letting. Love the brand you know you bought quality, thanks for the test john.
The single bevel doesn’t help blood spray! It helps to penetrate shoulder blades and thick bone by corkscrew cutting through like a drill bit!
I'm not sure it would make much difference. But if you didn't get good blood from the Wide, it's not because of the broadhead...you're cutting a lot of tissue with that head and a very clean cut. But there are SO MANY other factors that affect blood letting. Have you seen my video on: Broadheads and Bloodtrails? Check that out, cause it might help.
Need a comparison between this one and the Tuffhead wide
Yeah...they're supposed to send me some this week. My tests are consistent for every head I test, so you can easily compare the results.
I did notice like someone else that the final score on the at the bottom does not say the same as the top of the sheet and is also different than at the end of the video. 87.04 is what I got same as end of video. But I could give 1 extra point for being so awesome.
Yes, I just corrected it. It's because I often copy and past that portion from other videos, and sometimes fail to update a certain number. It is 87.04, or 9 golden arrows.
You ever do any bow tests on Oneida or martin archery just curious to see if you know what's up with martin
Sorry; I haven’t.
Been curious what your arrow soeed is or what you try to make it?
It depends on the weight of the head I'm using, but roughly 260 fps.
Not to rain on iron wills parade, but we need a new video on the new sevr 1.75 titaniums!
Hopefully, you've seen that by now.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I did. Excellent broad head test. I’ll definitely be trying these out.
WOW! THIS IS AN EXCELLENT DESIGN COUPLED WITH EXCELLENT EXECUTION. However, the cost is triple the price of an average broadhead and for many this is just too much
Yeah...everyone has different budgets, that's for sure.
Hey John, I have a seiriouse question about bevel direction. My bow naturally shoots left turn, so I fletch left helical. Actually, all 3 of my bows turn the arrow left. But almost all the broad heads.....right bevel. Do you have any thoughts on this?
I know you asked John, but if you fletch left you will want a left bevel. I do believe in fletching your arrow to match the natural rotation of the bow, but most manufacturers develop products for a right rotation. There is a lot of debate on if matching fletching offset to your natural rotation really matters, but if it gives you more confidence then do it! Right bevel with a right helical or offset, left bevel with a left helical or offset.
If you are left fletched, you will need the left bevel model which we will release in about a month.
@Iron Will Outfitters now we're talkin!!! Thank you so much h!!!
I agree with all the comments already posted. Thanks guys.
I know they are completely different broadheads but I am on the fence between iron will single bevel and the tooth of the arrow. I would get regular size and large size for both. I live in Canada and hunt deer, moose, bear, elk. I shoot a bowtech sr80 at 31” draw 84lbs. Arrows are victory rip ss. When all said and done arrow will weigh about 575 grain. Any suggestions for a do it all broad head. If not those 2 mentioned. I only shoot fixed
Man, that’s a tough decision. I’ve hunted extensively with the large and small models of each in my quiver at times: IW Wide/Regular and TOTA 1” and XL. With your set up penetration is not an issue for any of them. For shots 50 yds and under, I’d only use the larger models of each. With the TOTA xL you’re getting .25” more cut. If you’re able to penetrate deeply with both, that’s a pretty significant amount and might win the day for me. But I also love those IW Wide-just super high quality. You can’t go wrong either way. TOTAs are significantly less expensive, especially with my Discount Code: LUSK19. Unfortunately IW won’t give me a discount code.
Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate your videos. I discovered your Chanel a few months ago and I love it. Keep up the good work and thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
Total score after the BONUS 88.04 9 golden arrows......Total score at the TOP of the description 83.62 8 Golden Arrows.....Might want to change that one, a lot of guys might not see the FINAL score if they don't watch all the way to the end OR read all the way down to the bottom of the description. I know I usually don't do either, just happened to on this one. Just a thought.
Thank you! I copy and paste those sections, and sometimes fail to correct it all. I just made that correction. It was 87.04, which is 9 Golden Arrows.
Thanks John. Let us know what it does when you kill an animal with it.
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If you had to pick a winner between this head and the trifecta 150 fixed?
Man, they're both great. Depends on what I'm hunting. I like the wider cut of the Trifecta on smaller animals and this on large ones.
geee wiz on the price. take a $50 bill tape it to your arrow and zing it into the brush. i would absolutely cry if i lost one of those heads.
Yeah, they're definitely a premium head.
Is the best single bevel broadhead?
It's sure a good one. Not sure if there is a "Best" one.
Very surprised it didn’t penetrate as much cardboard as the vpa 3 blade.
It has a much larger total cut than the VPA 3 blade--that's why. VPA: 1.69" total cut; IW WIDE: 2.125" total cut. That's more than 25% more cut.
I can grasp that, but I wouldn’t think that would be the single deciding factor on penetration. If so there are plenty of steep angle short little 3 blade fixed that should out penetrate both. That being said you do this more than I do.
I shoot Magnus broadheads i like the new buzz cut stinger 4 blade. At 100 grains it .40 thousand thickness and cut on contact. And if you hit a rock and bend a head you send it back to Magnus and they send you a new one.
Yep.
Edge chatter was a big surprise and turn off for me. That quality of steel should hold up better I’d think. Many other heads with lesser metals tested did not show that.
Yeah, it’s the rather gradual bevel they use. Should do fine in most hunting situations.
Tuffhead 2.0 after they changed the angle and added bleeders
What do you see as similar? Different geometries, different steel, different tip, different bleeders...Both single bevel, but that's about it.
I just can’t get my wides to fly perfect
What is your draw weight/length, what arrow spine/length, and broadhead weight/FOC and TAW?
@@michaelvstheworld3680 65lb draw. 29” arrow, 300 spine arrow. Not sure on foc. Broadhead weight is the 150 with a 75 added brass weight
The Wides are not as forgiving, due to increased surface area. But with a well tuned bow, properly spined arrow, and good form, they'll group quite well out to at least 60 yds.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures it’s gotta be the spine of my arrow then
4 fletch high profile vanes will help. Those heads have a large steering plane.
That hurts my wallet seeing it go into concrete, but man it still spins true.
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Also fly great out to 70y farthest ive shot them for practice
They fly very well for me also. They are not as forgiving as other heads, due to their surface area. But out of a well tuned bow and a shooter with good form, they do fly well. Thanks for sharing that.
Any body else here after Joe Rogan for research?
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Don't like iron will broadheads
Why is that?