Herculaneum Papyri and Long Lost Sources for the Romans

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  • Today's question is about the papyri from Herculaneum, and the recent progress being made in deciphering the texts.
    A follow up is to ask which lost/unknown ancient source I would most like to be discovered.

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  • @Krommer1000
    @Krommer1000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Two videos in two days. Nice! You're spoiling us. 🙂

  • @deanedge5988
    @deanedge5988 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Any of Claudius's many works even on subjects as thrilling as Etruscan paleography would be wonderful. Apart from Marcus Aurelius it would be the only actual literary work by an Emperor. You get the impression that so far the works discovered at Herculaneum are in their limitation to Philodemus a bit like finding the private library of an elite Scientologist.

    • @lukacvitkovic8550
      @lukacvitkovic8550 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My mind went straight to Cladius' Etruscan history, I'll never live down the loss of that work

  • @marijntaal1531
    @marijntaal1531 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I laughed out loud at Gussy's interfering meowing

  • @nocturnalrites1652
    @nocturnalrites1652 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It would be great to get anything of it. I've managed to convince my local library to buy a couple more of your books as I really enjoyed your biography of Caesar.

  • @Wien1938
    @Wien1938 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I would be delighted if the missing books of Polybius to turned up!
    Likewise, Livy.

  • @myles7978
    @myles7978 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The most exciting find to me would be Claudius' histories of Etruria and Carthage and his Etruscan dictionary.

    • @Ninja-Alinja
      @Ninja-Alinja 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I said the same thing, but what are the chances that Claudius’ books ended up there? Also Claudius’ book on dice playing could be the first book on stochastics,

  • @chrrrles9363
    @chrrrles9363 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Would love to read Claudius's history of Carthage.

  • @scoon2117
    @scoon2117 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wonder how they will verify everything considering how frequently AI can hallucinate

  • @brennanmacdowell284
    @brennanmacdowell284 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Exactly the kind of video that makes this the best channel on this website. Thanks, Doc!

  • @Saurischian
    @Saurischian 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hope they uncover some of Ciceros lost works

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Finding the private thoughts of Marcus Antonius Gnipho would be amazing.
    Gnipho was a romanized Celt renouned in his time as a gifted grammarian who tutored a young Julius Caesar and Cicero for a time.
    And, seeing Caesar's choice as his theatre of war during his campaigns of conquest, Gnipho influence on his young pupil should not be underestimated.

  • @illerac84
    @illerac84 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wonder if we’ll ever find a new historian or author.
    But I would like to find a copy of anti-Cato

  • @Ninja-Alinja
    @Ninja-Alinja 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Papyri are the most exited I got over ongoing archeological discoveries in my lifetime. The possibilities are endless (and so may be the disappointments) but still hopeful.

  • @jannarkiewicz633
    @jannarkiewicz633 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Where is Agrippa the cat? Great video...

    • @Catonius
      @Catonius 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think dear Agrippa awaits us at Philippi old chap..

  • @JulianThePhilosopher7
    @JulianThePhilosopher7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The emperor Julians commentaries and the remainder of against the Christians, and then Dexippus, Eunapius and so many more

    • @Gorboduc
      @Gorboduc วันที่ผ่านมา

      Username checks out! Also the complete Celsus would be great to have, or anything else from that early Christian debate.

  • @sspoonless
    @sspoonless วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Roman? I want the Alexandria Library contents, rumored to be hidden before its destruction, to be rediscovered.

    • @kw19193
      @kw19193 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This would be wonderful, but alas . . . It's contents simply withered and rotted away over the centuries. By the time the library itself physically collapsed - probably somewhere in the three hundred years between 500 CE to 800 CE - there wasn't much left. On top of that (no pun intended) the actual location of the Library itself has not come down to us. But who knows, maybe someday . . . Cheers!

  • @stenkarasin2091
    @stenkarasin2091 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The capability of modern technologies are breath taking.

  • @alexanderorbell6455
    @alexanderorbell6455 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would love for a copy of Augustus' autobiography to be found in tact

  • @WagesOfDestruction
    @WagesOfDestruction 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You will find something like chatgpt much more helpful when you get a grip on it.
    As far as what I would love to see, it would be some Christian and Jewish works. Just imagine if we could find the Q source or The Sayings of the Elders referenced in the Talmud.
    Having said that, if we have a text of a book we have now, it would be great to compare it to what we have now to see any changes

  • @kevindoran9389
    @kevindoran9389 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope they're not still manually trying to unscroll them, we're not there yet but we will be, eventually computer technology will be such that we'll be able to put each scroll through a scanner that'll move through each layer detecting the ink molecules and exactly where they are, then make a perfect reconstruction. Kind of like they're doing now but way more advanced.

  • @arashp85
    @arashp85 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    101

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm rooting for Sulla's memoirs or Claudius's history of the Etruscans...

  • @rraguso
    @rraguso 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    10/10

  • @Zourkoskey
    @Zourkoskey วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to have Augustus's autobiography as well as Claudius's history of the julio-claudians!!

  • @gingerbill128
    @gingerbill128 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I read a lot of books without noticing mistakes but once someone pointed it out to me i started noticing them . Weird how the brain works. Enjoyed the video , thanks.

  • @cyan1616
    @cyan1616 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I want to see histories. Those are always the best stories.

  • @warpedweft9004
    @warpedweft9004 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What I'd like to see is something that confirms or denies accounts of events. I see a lot of historical accounts as little more than propaganda. It's written by people paid to record history but that always brings with it the risk of writing from a particular viewpoint.. If the scrolls contain a different perspective on any of the texts that have already been scrutinised, then there is an opportunity to revisit the accepted version of events. Similarly, if there are texts that corroborate historical records, then that potentially strengthens the evidence for their accuracy.

    • @warpedweft9004
      @warpedweft9004 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I also don't completely trust the histories of Josephus. He was considered by some to be a traitor and was in the employ of the Romans. How can you trust someone like that writing "history"? I find it hard to believe it's an accurate account of events, not because he changed sides, so to speak, or even because he contradicts himself in different texts, but because of the ramifications of not writing it the way certain influential people wanted it written. If the choice is that or crucifixion, what is the likelihood of a self-serving character like Josephus recording the truth?

  • @alibizzle2010
    @alibizzle2010 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Meow!

  • @ryangee6754
    @ryangee6754 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You would be a good guest for lex fridman.

  • @Catonius
    @Catonius 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the people only wanted their names read out and/or shown on screen and they get a masterclass lecture instead.

  • @king_cobra5492
    @king_cobra5492 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sir, your collar is wrinkled. Thank you.