One thing that a buddy of mine pointed out back when we played in Eberron during the 3.5 days was that in many ways the original 5 nations fit the archetype of old school D&D classes. Cyre was the Bard. As the centrally located kingdom it drew from all the others jack-of-all-trades style, and added an artistic and flamboyant flair to them. Thrane was religiously focused and Cleric-esque, Karrnath had the best military and focused on Fighter-type mentality, Aundair was the Wizardish nation, with the most exclusive magical college in the world forming the backbone of it's identity. And Breland, home of the biggest city in the world, and the Organized Crime that comes with it, as well as their cultural penchant for morally flexible deceptions was a Rogue nation if ever there was one. It sorta falls apart if you try to map the other, post-war nations on to the remaining 5th edition classes (some, like the Talents Plains and it's Barbarian tribes of halflings on Dino back or the Elder Reaches and their Druidic focus are clear, but Droaam and Zilargo are more tenuious) but it's still a fun thought experiment and provides a quick and dirty way to view the national character of these fascinating settings.
I still enjoy playing Eberron in 3.5. I once told the players how dangerous the territory was and a player said "Lets not go there." I laughed and reminded them as the Game Master that adventurers rarely get to decide where adventure opportunities present themselves. I could Also see some people purposefully fleeing into the Mournland hoping others would not follow when pursued by others.
The Lord of Blades and his followers have the same attitude towards the Mournland that Wesley, from the Princess Bride, has towards the Fire Swamp. Undoubtedly, others will seek refuge in the Mournland, in spite of its hazards.
This setting provides for endless scenarios. You are much more ambitious than I to homebrew. I can't wait for official 5e adventure books that are focused on Eberron.
Great video; I used this one (and Thrane) to put together my campaign that's planned to span 20 levels of exploring this region. It's a good idea; providing players with background information on the setting/region they'll be in. I sent my players six pages of specifics and built in tie-ins and hooks to my campaign that starts in northern Thrane/ Burnt Wood/ city of Shadukar campaign and eventually moves to Karrnath and into The Mournland. So off the top of my head (in addition to the regional/cultural/historical background info I sent) I gave them some examples and loose ideas that would work best; things like a Circle of Wildfire Druid from the Burnt Wood, a Paladin from Angwar Keep, a Necromancer seeking to exploit the battlefields and the undead legacy of Karrnath, a Bard or Wizard seeking to discover the developing lore of The Mournland, a roguish treasure hunter looting lost wealth from Cyre.... Quick, think of five quick simple character ideas that would fit well into this campaign. I bet none of them are: - A Light Domain Cleric of Lathander, except Drow. Wait for it, this is the submission that fit the theme and setting the best. -A Goliath Pugilist (fighter) bounty hunter. -A variant human Fighter, Arcane Archer except with a revolver instead of a bow. -An Arctic Circle of the Moon druid, but faerie because she wants to be a cute tiny thing that turns into a polar bear. - An Owlin barbarian...that can fly, but only uses a quarterstaff. What's missing? Any characters from Cyre. Any characters from Thrane or Karrnath. Any Arcane casters unless you count Arcane Musketeer. No relic hunters, no knowledge seekers.... Sometimes all the best/most detailed/most carefully constructed lore in the world matters when you have a group full of murder hobos, but at least all of this stuff is still available for the rest of us.
Loving the enthusiasm, but you’re getting a lot wrong here. The city of Metrol was the capitol of Cyre, not if GaliFAR (Not Galifree… somebody is a Doctor Who fan..) The capitol of Galifar was Thronehold.
Great video! I'm rolling up my first Eberron character and have been thinking about doing Cyre/Mournlands for their backstory. This gave me a great foundation to start building some ideas upon.
@@HalflingHobbies ha! Please don't feel like I'm trolling, and it's super insignificant, I just find it funny. I love Eberron, but then I always hear everyone pronounce everything different. (Total aside, the creator of it says it like "Siri", but also D&D is about making stuff up so say it anyway you like!)
Danny Bell it definitely is fun, especially with accents and dialects. Fun fact, I am actually dyslexic so I mispronounce A LOT. So people tell me all the time “yeah...that’s not how you say that.” And I am like “oh! My brain does literally not compute.” 😂
@@HalflingHobbies I have a fun one to admit. For far too long I kept pronouncing biopic as "Bye-opic" and no one ever corrected me. When I learned it was pronounced "bio-pic" I just felt years and years of embarrassment wash over me. Everytime I had ever said, "Yeah, did you see that bye opic?"
One of the more unique elements of the setting, for sure. "No nation won The Last War....but Cyre lost it."
Ryan Flake for sure! It is like a mini setting in the setting!
One thing that a buddy of mine pointed out back when we played in Eberron during the 3.5 days was that in many ways the original 5 nations fit the archetype of old school D&D classes. Cyre was the Bard. As the centrally located kingdom it drew from all the others jack-of-all-trades style, and added an artistic and flamboyant flair to them. Thrane was religiously focused and Cleric-esque, Karrnath had the best military and focused on Fighter-type mentality, Aundair was the Wizardish nation, with the most exclusive magical college in the world forming the backbone of it's identity. And Breland, home of the biggest city in the world, and the Organized Crime that comes with it, as well as their cultural penchant for morally flexible deceptions was a Rogue nation if ever there was one. It sorta falls apart if you try to map the other, post-war nations on to the remaining 5th edition classes (some, like the Talents Plains and it's Barbarian tribes of halflings on Dino back or the Elder Reaches and their Druidic focus are clear, but Droaam and Zilargo are more tenuious) but it's still a fun thought experiment and provides a quick and dirty way to view the national character of these fascinating settings.
Ryan Flake love this! Very accurate and fun! Thanks for this awesome comment!
House Cannith: the one's with the Maker's Mark... no not the alcohol. hahaha, great reference and bourbon!
😁 thank you!
Cyre has always been an interesting concept for me. The mist makes me wonder if maybe it still exists partially, in the domains of dread.
Yes! That is what the new Ravenloft book says! Blew my mind with possibilities! I need to do a video on it!
I still enjoy playing Eberron in 3.5. I once told the players how dangerous the territory was and a player said "Lets not go there." I laughed and reminded them as the Game Master that adventurers rarely get to decide where adventure opportunities present themselves. I could Also see some people purposefully fleeing into the Mournland hoping others would not follow when pursued by others.
Love that! And so true!
The Lord of Blades and his followers have the same attitude towards the Mournland that Wesley, from the Princess Bride, has towards the Fire Swamp. Undoubtedly, others will seek refuge in the Mournland, in spite of its hazards.
Really love your video! My players are just entering the Mournland, and this really helped them understand what is happening (or has happened) there!
Gabriel Poulin I am so glad it was helpful! 😊
This setting provides for endless scenarios. You are much more ambitious than I to homebrew. I can't wait for official 5e adventure books that are focused on Eberron.
Agreed!! I will be sure to do videos about them when they come out!
Great video; I used this one (and Thrane) to put together my campaign that's planned to span 20 levels of exploring this region.
It's a good idea; providing players with background information on the setting/region they'll be in. I sent my players six pages of specifics and built in tie-ins and hooks to my campaign that starts in northern Thrane/ Burnt Wood/ city of Shadukar campaign and eventually moves to Karrnath and into The Mournland.
So off the top of my head (in addition to the regional/cultural/historical background info I sent) I gave them some examples and loose ideas that would work best; things like a Circle of Wildfire Druid from the Burnt Wood, a Paladin from Angwar Keep, a Necromancer seeking to exploit the battlefields and the undead legacy of Karrnath, a Bard or Wizard seeking to discover the developing lore of The Mournland, a roguish treasure hunter looting lost wealth from Cyre....
Quick, think of five quick simple character ideas that would fit well into this campaign. I bet none of them are:
- A Light Domain Cleric of Lathander, except Drow. Wait for it, this is the submission that fit the theme and setting the best.
-A Goliath Pugilist (fighter) bounty hunter.
-A variant human Fighter, Arcane Archer except with a revolver instead of a bow.
-An Arctic Circle of the Moon druid, but faerie because she wants to be a cute tiny thing that turns into a polar bear.
- An Owlin barbarian...that can fly, but only uses a quarterstaff.
What's missing? Any characters from Cyre. Any characters from Thrane or Karrnath. Any Arcane casters unless you count Arcane Musketeer. No relic hunters, no knowledge seekers....
Sometimes all the best/most detailed/most carefully constructed lore in the world matters when you have a group full of murder hobos, but at least all of this stuff is still available for the rest of us.
This is a fantastic video! Thanks so much, *subcribes, grabs pen and paper, takes notes
Wesley van Barlingen thanks so much! I am glad it was helpful 😊
Thank you for this video. My players will soon visit the Mournlands and this gave me some good ideas regarding the setting.
Of course! I am so happy it was helpful!
Loving the enthusiasm, but you’re getting a lot wrong here. The city of Metrol was the capitol of Cyre, not if GaliFAR (Not Galifree… somebody is a Doctor Who fan..)
The capitol of Galifar was Thronehold.
This video is well done.
Your channel is SO underrated, these videos have been so helpful ^^
Thank you so much!!
Great video! I'm rolling up my first Eberron character and have been thinking about doing Cyre/Mournlands for their backstory. This gave me a great foundation to start building some ideas upon.
Awesome! So glad it was helpful!
Gali-whatever. The Doctor can be any where(s) and any time(s). He's probably involved somehow. Love it. Thank you.
SKrimador 1 😂 thanks for being cool with my slip-ups! Glad you like it!
Epic break down! Thank you so much!
Of course! Glad it was helpful!
Amazing video. Keep going!
Thank you! Will do!
Thank you Halfling Hannah, Eberron is my favourite setting, do you by chance run an ongoing campaign I can join ?
I think of my favorite but insignificant things is hearing who pronounces it "Sire" and who pronounces it "Sear-ee"
Danny Bell I never could figure out which way is proper! Lol and we all know I wouldn’t pronounce it right even if I did 😅
@@HalflingHobbies ha! Please don't feel like I'm trolling, and it's super insignificant, I just find it funny. I love Eberron, but then I always hear everyone pronounce everything different.
(Total aside, the creator of it says it like "Siri", but also D&D is about making stuff up so say it anyway you like!)
Danny Bell it definitely is fun, especially with accents and dialects. Fun fact, I am actually dyslexic so I mispronounce A LOT. So people tell me all the time “yeah...that’s not how you say that.” And I am like “oh! My brain does literally not compute.” 😂
@@HalflingHobbies I have a fun one to admit. For far too long I kept pronouncing biopic as "Bye-opic" and no one ever corrected me. When I learned it was pronounced "bio-pic" I just felt years and years of embarrassment wash over me. Everytime I had ever said, "Yeah, did you see that bye opic?"
Danny Bell 😂
I see what you are a Whovian ;)
Metrol is a beautiful city, the Crown Jewel of Galifar.
Wait, how can the King of Blades survive the Dark Gray Mist??
mournlands make no sense to me that the mourning just happen in the middle of a war
And still many more say it was Stephen King, because he creates many terrifying things. ;)
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You mispronounce almost everything... cringe. Cyre is pronounced SEER and Khorvaire has an R in it. Do you even play games?
I do, but I have severe dyslexia which causes me to mispronounce pretty much everything, even when it isn’t made up names 😅 I do my best though! 😊
@@HalflingHobbies And your best is wonderful. Your video was awesome. Thank you so much for recording it.