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BBC's Natalia Antelava travels to eastern Ukraine and speaks to a mix of Ukrainians living on the Russian border about the ongoing crisis.
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11 Years later BBC later they're saying it is Russia propaganda 😂
Everything the Blake Association doesn't agree with is " Russian propaganda ". 🤣
Yeah true ..... now is 100%propaganda🤮simon ostrovsky back in the past acchivet files that proves ukrainian war crimes+torturing "russian-speaking" this is genocide and a shame for kiev
ВВС это винтик пропаганды Госдепа . Там ложь , выгодная тому кто платит выдается за правду !!!
You’re right
BBC in flight
These are the days when the BBC was giving us some real reporting
Yeah now only us propaganda
Yes.
@@danielallan8310 Yeah. BBC can go and fuck itself.
just remember that also vice did some of these back day..
Anglo saxons never report a "news" because all they do is report their own AGENDA.
The woman on the phone said "At least if they give us autonomy, I would agree to trat. I don't think that in Russia Putin needs us" and the reporter translated it: "we want autonomy, we don't want to be part of Russia", which is false.
I was looking for this comment
weird,. in the subtitles translation is 1:1
can't understand how the bbc hasn't deleted this video yet
It would give them a bad reputation, people might call that out
Saddam Hussein was also surprised that the USA didn't have laws against criticising the government.
Now, 8 years after this video was posted, the video acquired a historical depth. Much to think about.
What happened to these high standards of honest journalism the BBC had that we were so proud of? Those days have surely gone. Peace and love.
Watching this in April 2022, Putin has finally launched a special operation to in defence of Russians 🇷🇺 in Ukraine 🇺🇦. The conflict has been on since March.
It died when Brexit to join USA's propaganda machine.
Yeah man. But the megatech like youtube and twitter are always censored by US . most of the ex CIA amd present are the security on these megatechs. Thats why . they censored many Patrock Lancaster vidoes too.
-Why you dont like europe?
-Because they are all fascist and homosexuals
100% not brainwashed
@@franzschutz9833 Do you even know what fascism is? Defending your country is not fascism. Wanting to determine your future and get out of Russia's sphere of influence is not fascism. Refusing to live in a dictatorship is not fascism. Russia's state doctrine is pure fascism. They are even using the same propaganda methods as the Nazis more than half a century ago. If you do not understand the word, don't use it. Educate yourself, otherwise you would be very easy to brainwash and manipulate.
who's here in 2022 just trying to understand how this whole mess started
Pretty much because Yanukovych is a p.o.s. and left a number of people bitter after his "winning" of the 2010 election against Tymoshenko, then there's the election in 2004 where some strangeness happened to the other candidate, Yushchenko.
Yes !! It's such a complex story. But i do know... The UN has had a motion about fighting NeoNazism and Russian voted pro fight them and Ukraine voted against fighting NeoNazism. Also 🇪🇺 and 🇺🇸 voted against. The rest of the world with Russia voted Pro fight NeoNazism.
This whole aspect seems 🇺🇸 involved though !
@@VioletLife8 Actually, to be clear it wasn't specific to "fighting" neo-nazism. It was related to freedom-of-speech and the refusal to "ban neo-nazi speech" because speech is fundamental to the way our democracy works.
That's actually the problem of free-speech and a huge weakness...as it can easily be weaponized (and has been). If you believe in freedom-of-speech, then preventing someone's right to speak or assemble is contrary to that belief.
well.... in general lets say that ukraine is diviided, was always divided... and russia was always puting presidents. even with fraud. people was really agnry with yanukptich who commited fraud in the 2000s.... bu then he won again and people was even angrier.... and then he stopped an agreement wo cooperation with the EU, and signed one with russia... eventhough that was his promise during the campaing.. from that on. it started a civil war which was financed by russia.
"Pro Russians"... You should have opened a book of history. People in Donbass speak Russian since the 17th century there
They may speak Russian but they’re still Ukrainian living under Ukrainian law
What law? Yanukovitch got ousted illegally. That was a coup. When one violates the constitution, there is no law anymore
@@temudjin1155 Crimea was annexed illegally and so is the rebellion and Declaration of Independence of Donetsk and Luhansk
So there’s that
@@user-gy9fj6ve8i no
@@user-gy9fj6ve8i ні
Its hard to find two sided information especially with todays social media.
Intentional
all russian media has been banned in the west so....
@@Triadii you can find it easily online.. but russian can't, and most russian still watching television as main information. now a lot of scholar getting out of Russian, it will only increase, because they are the one can access to multi information, and a lot of countries around Russian start the policy to happy having scholar from Russian.
Yes! You get such a different picture of whats really going on in Ukraine when you watch these videos! They don't show the truth on western media! If you go look up the channel a Russian opinion you will see how good of his videos are. I wish they would start showing stuff like this so you could get both sides and make your own decision. A lot of people hate Russia for what they're doing they don't see what's been going on since 2014.they won't put out both sides and let people decide for themselves.i am siding with Russiaon this and it's gotten soo bad with family and friends bc they don't believe me..I send them videos and some still don't believe Ukraine was and I killing ukrainians in LPR and DPR!! Soo sad.
@@sarabrant723 Indeed, freedom is the letting of one see two sides of the story and create his own judgement with his morals. Now the west isnt even practicing what it preaches. Where are the full speeches of putin and what he says? Wheres the proof of what they report? They say he says this and that without showing evidence. Full of lies. Why is the russia insight and other russian opiniated channels censored? If there are so much disinformation in them and they are just propaganda may as well show us why and how right ? No. They dont and yet they say they do this in the name of democracy. Russia doesnt do that. They aknowledge their flaws. They lie but not as much. I usually side with the west but its impossible this time. I dont know what freedom Ukraine is advocating for. I dont know why they dont report their own aggression, and racism towards their neighbour of 8 years. What have they got to hide? A lot to hide.
everyone needs to watch this now
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
Please share around
Especially since a story this neutral won't broadcast now. Not from either side
it's disgusting! being from northern Ireland I understand what it is like growing up in conflict over who owns what.. you will never get a leader in these lands that want and promote peace... most people just want peace, fairness and a way forward.. but not the leaders, they want us divided so we can keep fighting to meet their egocentric agenda... we can't change history but we an prevent further deaths.. ✌️🕊️
Well, Donbass is a Russian-Ukrainian version of Northern Ireland indeed. Can we solve this problem by following the Northern Ireland model? Well, it will take long time...
thats a good way of thinking it. the eastern european version of the irish/british conflict
Yes indeed. I like referring to my Reb brother as the Russian/Ukrainian Davy Crockett but he's got a lot in common with Michael Collins as well. Remember the Columbo " Irish " episode? Joe Devlin, a poet and a Reb? Well, since 2014 that's me. And I do write poetry in three languages.
However, reporter didn't understand what the women said. The russian women said: "We want to be at least autonomy, because Putin doesn't want us".Reporter said " We don't want to be with Russia". Please, travel with a translater at least, if you do not understand everything what people say in Russian.
A translation of what the women was saying on the phone is provided in the English subtitles and this translation is the same as what you wrote in your comment.
Now her wish is granted..thanks mother Russia
"Хотя бы автономию дали, на это я согласна, а в Россию ? Путину мы не нужны"
"At least they would give autonomy, I'll agree to that, but into Russia ? Putin doesn't need us"
There is no "Because" at all...
@Edgars Yeah because having your house shelled by your own country is living the life. Fool - these people overwhelmingly want away from the USA-puppet Ukraine government.
@@yusrisaadun5497 Yeah they sure will be happy now. And a bright future ahead of them. Thanks to Putler and hus cronies.
"I dont think Putin want us"
8 years later.... I'm back!
9 years later putin apologised saying he should of acted sooner. Nobody saw azov becoming a Ukraine battalion , that’s when the real problems started
Humans tend to forget even just 8 years ago, as soon as this war started and everyone started slandering Russia as usual I remembered what was happening years ago.
1590? 1610? 1788?
What can I say? JE SUIS DONBASS!
Oleg in 2014: “Russia will never bring troops.”
Me in 2022: “Never say never”.
Russia: Never = "Only When The Lie Would Serve Us"
Still rough to wait for 8 years.
@@liaupikhan well at least they are safe now from neo naz1
But he says: we asked, but Russia does't come.... They wanted about it
@@notanartist6304 10:34 neo-nazis is an overblown propaganda rhetoric. Yes, they exist, but not nearly in the quantities these people suggest, their party is not in power, and not anymore than in Russia. In fact, if you've been to Russia, you know that there is much more nazism going on there with migrants from Middle East, similar to a situation with the USA and Mexican migrants. Please stop bringing up neo-nazis before your research the topic.
Женщина говорит Путин нас не хочет а корреспондент переводит что они не хотят с Россией не врите хотя бы в переводе
Haha that’s BBC’s skills and tricks. BBC lie about labour camp in Xinjiang - although as a Chinese I can read that is a school! But they fooled people who don’t understand Chinese.
2:43 Хотя бы автономию да, как бы да, это я согласна. А то что в Россию, Путину мы не нужны. В принципе есть перевод на экране, он правильный. Журналист конечно не то перевела) 2:58 "Путину мы не нужны" она перевела как " Мы не хотим быть частью России ".
They lie all the time
Никто не врет, просто оговорка. В субтитрах все верно. И вы не одна знаете язык. Любой здравомыслящий человек поймёт, что если нужно было бы соврать, вам бы не дали услышать оригинал, а выдали сразу перевод. Российская пропаганда так делает на регулярной основе :)
@@alekseiobukhov7852 Sweet dreams
Very good to hear all points of views. Having the right to choose and live in peace is important
Yet, people need jobs, and will make munitions for war, if it puts food on their table....
The female reporter is checking out the man’s wife’s butt at 6:12 look at her eyes following the booty!
Wrong address. Tell it to Barack and Nudelman and Blinken.
It seems that the BBC have stopped honest reporting since a year or so back
For someone who studied psychology, you sure are a nutcase yourself.
7:55 this one gave me chills
I understand now why he was angry
I understand them because my people experience the same thing
I understand why, but that's what happens when russia tries to interfere in ukraine
@@pedroramalhais idiot this was 8 years ago before Russia invaded
@@pedroramalhais its the other way around, Russia is intefering because of videos like that
@@valentinvalet2916 so, its a self feading cycle.
Russia tries to control the Ukranian government, Ukraine has a revolution, Russia anexes Crimea, ukranians start resenting the russians even more, russian separatist dislike beeing seen as the enemy, and align with putin, Putin further torments Ukranians wich makes them resent russians even further.
I apreaciate this video BBC 7 years later and it's still relevant today. Sad to see they thought there wouldn't be a war.
They were sadden by the fact that Putin would not help and would not start the war. Because of the annexation. The intonation was for the war, not the other way around
@@yarimster right
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
Please share around
@@sophia8376 Patrick and Graham are journalists ? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA
man if they are journalist then I'm the president of Russia.... they only covered the russia part of story.... and never went in ukrianian donbass to tell the other....
patrick even accused ukraine of taking down Boeing 777 without having any proof and later it was clear that it was shoot down by separatists..... you should be ashamed to call them journalists......
Putin had everyone conned. No doubt he could have resolved this issue years ago, diplomatically had he been honourable and shown some humility. But he is neither. And he's certainly not a diplomat. All these years since USSR collapsed, this ex KGB leader conspired to take back Ukraine, to recreate a tzarst empire, based on serfs and slaves, and terror. He accumulated his wealth, squirrelling the nation's wealth away in his pocket, and surrounded himself with gangster style mafiosos. He's kept the people of Russia sick, and poor. His jealousy towards Ukraine knows no bounds. But Putin will be gone, the aging butcher, and Ukraine from where Russia was formed, will go on. Russia will remain the land of gangster and alcoholics.
Aged like fine wine
Watching this after the conflict broke out really puts things in perspective.
NAFO troons will deny videos like this exist
Nafoids are going to be like "This was all a Russian intelligence fsb sabotage operation and everyone there has been carefully selected from Moscow, and they don't represent the majority of Ukrainians... blah blah,.
Thank you so much for these interviews. These footage from ground zero in Ukraine, talking to the people speaks more then any news pundits.
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
Please share around
@@sophia8376 Patrick and Graham are journalists ? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA
man if they are journalist then I'm the president of Russia.... they only covered the russia part of story.... and never went in ukrianian donbass to tell the other....
patrick even accused ukraine of taking down Boeing 777 without having any proof and later it was clear that it was shoot down by separatists..... you should be ashamed to call them journalists......
THIS ARE RUSSIANS.
This are Russians in Donetsk.
@@dariamijic936 These 'russians' are holding Ukraine government issued identity card. So they are Ukrainian by law.
@@dariamijic936 ur wrong. Just come to the east if u want to talk to us.
The guy at 08:32 just wanted to have a quiet and peaceful dinner but his brother in law had to spoil the mood. Shows you families across the world are pretty much same during festive season.
Ikr lol. That guy is such a relatable mood. I feel that is what everyone truely feels like. They just want to eat good food safely with their family.
When we used to report the truth 😂
This report was excellent. Really well done. Informative, educational and even entertaining.
At the time before the war they had real polls do you want to join Russia the vast majority said no. What drives a lot of these people is opportunity Ukraine is a poor country.
@@perkunast9680 So why not joining the west, who by the western press has more opportunities.
@@dancotton13 Most only hear propaganda they think in Europe people are starving.
@@perkunast9680They vote to join russia in referendum and they dont want corrupt ukraine for 30 years of independence even roads not build
Came across this BBC report from 7 years ago. This was reporting the other side of the story. What’s BBC doing today?
7 years ago there was good coverage from BBC in this Donbass report. But now we won't get it anymore.
Yes.. the narrative has changed. I mean if you are supplying Neo Nazis (AZOV) with weapons to get rid of Russians, your narrative will change. Here is what Eastern Ukrainians have been experiencing what the world isnt showing us.
1. Children Found Hiding In Basement After Artillery Hit Their Apartment
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2. MARIUPOL - CITY CENTRE - HELL! th-cam.com/video/dWaNtAentO4/w-d-xo.html
3. Asking Mariupol Residents About Russian Attacks On Civilian areas
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4. Mariupol: Refugees in Russian controlled hospital th-cam.com/video/nhLB5Wp1lGs-/w-d-xo.html
5. Church & School Targeted By Militants in Russia - Ukraine War th-cam.com/video/C3h9Paoy-UA/w-d-xo.html
6. January 2022 - Ukrainian Militia targeting civiliansth-cam.com/video/IUuUufGo_VM/w-d-xo.html
7. Rebel forces (DPR) in Eastern Ukraine join Russian troops to fight Ukraine [DPR is the Donetsk People Republic that has been wanting independence from Ukraine for 8 years. Ukraine did not want this and has been shelling the Donbass area for 8 years, even after the Minsk Agreements were signed for peace.
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8. Ukrainian forces firing on buildings
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You can see P. Lancaster. He is in Donbass now
Eva K Bartlett is in Mauripol you can follow her youtube channel
They follow the orders
8 years later ukraine is not in Europe, not in nato, lost 20% of their land but we're being told ukraine is winning. Ok I believe you.
And the Russian military has expended 50% of its conventional army only to continue to be pushed back to their border.
@@justsomedude77 i dont really think that matters when europe is on its knees begging for russian oil and gas
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@@diond9927trade benefits both parties that’s why it happens… but Russias economy is struggling and the us is trying to aid europe going into winter, as much as they can but OPEC+ is posing a problem for the international oil market similar to what happened in the 70s.
@@justsomedude77 - You need to pay closer attention, Russia is just beginning to lay down the law, it's wasn't prepared for suicidal Ukrainian fascists. It is now.
What happened to unbiased real journalism...
This is the most heart breaking of videos on the Ukrainian Crisis that I've seen. I really felt sorry for that family she shows halfway through the video. They really do seem honest people caught in the tides of history. Ukrainian children shouting hang the russians is just plain wrong.
#RoScFan I agree,,,
How do u feel about the bulshit u said now?
I suppose the fascist Azov propaganda is even harder on children than American propaganda. American foreign policy and the Azov Battalion go hand-in-hand.
A woman was gang raped by Russian soldiers for a few days running in front of her six-year old son. The six year old went gray, the mother later died of injuries. Another 15 year old teenager spent a few days in a cellar with her dying mother in a pool of blood, Russian soldiers gang raped the girl and filmed it. This is what those kids saw in 2014, 2015 and today - February-March 2022.
Ukraine president and azov funded by nato
This video explains more about the complexity of the conflict than what we are now being told. It is not as black and white as ukraine good Russia evil. There are so many grey areas. Ie, the views of the russian speakers, nato expansion etc, the far right ne nazi element to ukraine nationalism, get politics etc. Of course none of that excuses putting aggressive invasion either but there are clearly grey areas to this tragic and dangerous situation.
Oh my god, some sane person
1. There was no NATO expansion until Russia's aggression in 2014. 2. What does Ukrainian nationalism mean? To make the national language the state language is the right of a sovereign state. There are no nationalists in the government of Ukraine - this is a propaganda lie.
@@user-rk5vr1xq9y "NATO welcomes Ukraine's and Geaorgia's Euro Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO".
NATO's final declaration, Bucharest Summit, 4/3/2008.
@Nafisa O'Brian, if there's no justification of Russian's special de-nazification of Ukraine, how do you think would have been the solution to solve the security threat to Russia while Putin has been trying for so long to call the NATO on respecting their part of the deal?
@@DyausAllback yeah, but after 2008 both Ukraine and Georgia had disputed territories. Suddenly. NATO does not accept countries with disputed territories.
I wonder if BBC would believe their own archive. I think this documentary speaks volumes and gives a better perspective about how this conflict is unfolding. We are always being told that this is a completely unprovoked attack on Ukraine sovereignty but obviously there sos calls being sent to Russia right from the start by ethnic Russians living in Ukraine who felt endangered
Except that plenty of other Russian speakers, both in the east and other parts of of Ukraine, including some interviewed here, say they've never had any problem!
Obviously Mr Zelensky is among them, along with many refugees from the current conflict.
Perhaps it's not so much a question of people's ethnic heritage or whether or not they speak the Russian language, but of what system they prefer to live under - Russian style authoritarianism or European style democracy? It seems by far the majority of Ukrainians, whatever their heritage, want the latter, are very happy with their government working towards this goal, and are prepared to die to defend it against Russian efforts to impose control over their smaller neighbour.
Obviously if people in any country A are against their own government and instead support the government of a neighbouring country B, they could expect to find themselves in some trouble.
@@papercup2517 I agree with you in many ways, except that Ukrainians who want to live in a European way are in the absolute majority. In fact, we don't know how many there are. But it is obvious that in the East of Ukraine they are a minority.
And in this regard, I have a question for the Ukrainians, why drag people to Europe if they don't want to? Did they want to force them to reformat their consciousness with Ukrainian propaganda in Ukrainian? And killing civilians? Bad way.
@@papercup2517 100%. It seems like some of the commenters here completely forget about Viktor Yanukovych's presidental term along with his bout as prime minister which seemingly included the poisoning of Yushchenko. After both the Orange revolution and the Euromaidan, the majority seem to have demanded change...
'EVIL PUTIN invaded poor and innocent Ukraine for no reason' - I love that sentence, 95% of people absolutely have no clue what was happening for whole 8 years before appropriate action was taken.
@@papercup2517 European style democracy in Ukraine? You must be joking. The first thing that happened post the coup was the shutting down of ALL non far right political parties and news outlets. Opposition figures in politics or the media were jailed or 'disappeared '. The SBU, which is the equivalent of A.H's SS started rounding people up and those they couldn't find are now on a 'Kill list'. This list includes western journalists who question Ukrainian government policies.
Then there is the western style democratic kleptomania which has turned Zel and his circle into billionaires. Add to all that, the fact that post coup 'fair and free' elections have NOT included so called Ukrainian citizens who live in the Donbass or Crimea. They would not vote the 'right' way. School curriculi have been changed to rewrite history and promote Ukrainian nationalist ideology and the Russian language was banned from the public sphere, even though the majority of Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language. The Nz1 battalions were incorporated into the UA almost immediately after the coup, and subsequently committed atrocities on the people in the east with the imprimatur of Kiev. Read about the Odessa massacre for an idea of how they behaved. So, European values? I don't think so.
Remember what BBC used to be
Yes😢
Even this is propaganda..lots of false translations and editing sentences spoken, in half.
An example of spin and obfuscation by a propaganda machine (this isn't news).
My country has a lot of problems, but perhaps I should be more grateful that we have actual news (which is miracle lol)
Now the BBC narrative has flipped to the whole other side.
BBC now part of the West's propoganda push ,bet you it wishes this report had never seen the light of day ,just like their report about the growing threat of Nazism in Ukraine ,which they recently contradicted claiming there is no Nazi problem .
its not a blind narrative, it is the reality
these regions wanted independence
still i can imagine they will be bordered from russia and from ukraine too
iots all pending on UN registering their borders
and from that point either way russia or ukraine forcing their military then UN can intervene
@@cnccarving Actually these regions didn`t wanted independence until the military coup in 2014 which overthrow their elected president, followed by the issuance of laws prohibiting the Russian language and education in Russian, which has been presented in these regions for centuries. Before 2014 Ukraine was bilingual country with bilingual education, and two nations lived in peace. Revolution in 2014 has changed this and new government started the war to pacify national minorities. But they were stupid enough to forget that this nation is a minor in their own country, but the major one in the neighboring country.
@@Evgenopolis
theres a BBC video
many residents saying they dont want ukraine, and they also dont want russias help
what i find compelling that there are 4-6 millions of people they wants to speak russian, they dont want control, but they want self governance
and that is what UN shouldnt ignore
registering their borders, then after borders are registered no one can attack them..
Fight For Justice
People are being robbed of Democrat party politicians to finance the Democratic party's mistakes in the GENOCIDE committed by its Ukrainian neo-nazi allies.
Ukrainian neo nazis versus Russian-speaking Ukrainians (2014-2022).
United States (Democrat Party) - NATO vs The Russian Federation.
(2022)
Venue: Ukraine.
The chronology begins with the efforts of the United States and NATO to provoke the Russian Federation.
The United States and NATO fostered neo-nazi radical groups in Ukraine to be the executors of genocide against russian-speaking Ukrainians.
America and NATO bought Ukrainian politicians to serve as cheerleading puppets and served as envoys to control the Ukrainian people under the guise of nationalism.
Why was Ukraine chosen to be an arena of war...?
Because Ukraine is the only location that qualifies.
Having a radical neo-nazi group, there is a target of genocide that can provoke russian anger, geographically quite large.
15,000 eastern Ukrainians have been murdered, raped, tortured by Ukrainian neo-nazis in the eight years since 2014.
After 8 years of peace efforts, but Ukrainian neo-nazis have always undermined and destroyed peace efforts and agreements by campaigning to join NATO, and it is clearly the second attempt at provocation besides the genocide that American and NATO politicians have designed.
In February 2022, the Russian federation responded to U.S. and NATO provocations. Ukrainians are victims of American foreign policy (democratic party) and NATO.
I suggest we study this conflict also from the reportage of independent journalists such as PATRICK LANCASTER (US) on the TH-cam channel.
Or....
Eva K Bartlett (Canada),
Graham Phillips (UK),
VN Rangeloni (Italy),
Ruben Gisbert (Spain),
John Mark Dougan (US)
Their reprotase is on their respective youtube channels
And....
Cristelle (FRANCE) On youtube channel : Donbass Insiders
..................
and many independent journalists from various countries...
Please review it for yourself after seeing the various data submitted by the independent journalist since 8 years ago.
May the civilians of western Ukraine and from the east soon find peace.
And rotten politicians and fascist mobs must be eradicated for a better future for Ukraine
There are also at least two documentaries that many people from various countries need to know, because this documentary is also a piece of data that complements the reportage of Patrick Lancaster and other independent journalists
Mark Bartalmai (German)
Title : ukraine agony the concealed war
Made in 2014
Oliver Stone (US)
Title : UKRAINE ON FIRE
Made in 2015
And I really appreciate LIVRE NOIR (FRANCE) journalistic work.
And I also advise all of us to look intellectually at the work
ANNE LAURE BONNEL.
I suggest you learn a little from the discussion on The Duran (TH-cam) and The New Atlas
WOW. Hearing that guy say EXACTLY what is happening is so crazy…
He blamed Ukraine though. It seems the Ukraine was brainwashed to hate Russia with all those children shouting "hang the Russians" I think the west was projecting this thinking on them so in future they would fight against Russia :(
The scene that children are shouting
" Hang The Russians " is an alarming! And this is before the war. So this is how Ukrainians feel towards Russian people?
You mean after the annexation of Crimea?
It's complicated going on there. Russian leaders also suppressing Ukrainian identity throughout history. Hell, even Putin never think that Ukraine is exist.
What is so surprising to you? Ruzzia invaded Ukraine brutally killing its people. There is no way Ukraine will be friends with ruzzia.
before the war? how naive, this was during the war. this war has gone for 8 years.
it was in November 213, so technically even before the tragic events in Maidan happened. It makes sense to say it was before the war@@bigsoap186
Watching this in 2024 baby
Very insightful look at the situation. BBC…you should repost this for current times. This is really relevant now to the war.
If it goes viral they will take it down just like Olivetr Stone documentary Ukraine on fire. . They don't want the truth getting out, , they have an agenda. . Agenda 21 to be precise.
The third world War is a nessary evil for this agenda .
th-cam.com/video/b8j0tJsKltg/w-d-xo.html Donbass 2016. French reporter Anne-Laure Bonnel.
I’m starting to question American propaganda as well. Looking for this video is impossible to find almost like TH-cam is hiding this information.
@@lilblanks1227 keep digging there's plenty more where that came from .
There are a few other video made years before the war, by BBC, VICE, DW, Times, and they reported neo-Nazi groups had become uncontrollable and a big concern for European security. Today the same outlets told us they are not Nazis.
7:53 and this isn't fascism?
Yeah imagine it was brewing for 7 more years since this documentary was released. Those kids are adults now.
Luganks is now part of Russia
@@-...-zed-...- We love our people & hate fascists
The people have spoken 🎉
And We would ask the BBC a Very Important question ⁉️ "What went Wrong"?
What happened to giving out the Real story?
8 years ago was much more better than now.
If they don't want to Russia, stop calling them pro-Russian separatists ffs. I hope at least some people will understand how people in the eastern Ukraine feel. Look at how they feel and look at their hospitality. These are the people you call terrorists.
***** Bollock those helicopters were strafing their cities, What would you do?
***** well when those helis and fighters are strafing at your city what would you do? Let them bomb to 8th dimension everything?
+Iphimedia Marple NO, first the helicopters were firing rockets at them and than there were shot down! And there were no hostages also!
fre1gn Eastern Ukrainians are treated with hostility by Kiev, why? It's because politically the. regions of Novorussiya have never been aligned with the Northwest, and Kiev since the state was created. Despite changing issues, and times Ukraine has been perpetually fragmented in the middle. People from the east, and South of Ukraine won't have a chance at winning anything in parliament unless they outnumber the Ukrainians from the Northwest of the country. They have been brawls in parliament, and attacks outside of it. That some people want free of Kiev should come as no surprise. Especially, as the only heads of state from the Northwest have all been oligarchs, with criminal charges leveled against them. Reformers in Kiev don't even have any real influence.
Olaf Heraldsson maybe Sweden should also join the Russian sphere of influence.
The man said he does not want to be with nato security organised coup and trained Nazi, people are not ignorant
Coming to this video due to the conflict. Can't imagine how those peoples lives featured in this video. Talking about war it is always the ordinary folks that suffered due to decisions by their leaders. Hope the conflict will soon. The longer the conflict drags on more innocent lives will be lost.😔
i just hate how the usa made the war even longer
When there’s profit for them in destroying Nord stream they’ll keep it going
2014...when BBC still made real news..what's happened since? I grew up watching this channel.
They now work for Pentagon and CIA and CIA told you Russia mad man! Ukraine innocent. OBEY.
It makes me very sad as they are doing a great injustice to those in the East. Too many people are believing everything Zelensky says and Putin is made out to be a monster when all he wanted is to protect Russian people. They are not interested in hearing about America being involved in the coup or broken agreements of peace.
@@Nikkimorox1 it's incredibly unfair. Meanwhile Russia has delivered many tons of humanitarian aid to Ukraine. But they won't show it on CNN.
The west.... that's what happen
@@betweenerdev831 Easy to blame on an inanimate object providing directions...
It's far more complicated than a specific culture or ideology.
Such a shame. I understand Kruschev was Ukrainian but why on earth did he make Crimea part of Ukraine? Actions have consequences.
Because Catherine the Great stole Crimea from Ukraine
@@shepglennon8760 Really?! Russia always fought for Crimea against Tatars and Ottomans. Crimea have never been Ukrainian until 1954! Give me a war for Ukraine to protect Crimea.
@@shepglennon8760 oh, really?)) So there was such a country as Ukraine back in 18th century, it seems? Maybe you could enlighten us about this?))
Just to be short - Ukraine as a some kind of state first appeared just in 1918 and all they dreamed about back then was Kiev. Crimea starting from 18th century has been Russian and will be Russian, no matter what jokers like you might say about it :)
Not only in terms of territory but also in terms of its population. It's funny how some of you people tell us "Give Crimea back" not even asking the population of the peninsula, which is - just so you know - is 90% Russian.
@@mohamednoaman8082 oh wow you're right! My bad I misunderstood something I heard from someone else
@@user-yl3vj9ic8k well it helps to deport Crimean Tatars to make it 90% Russian. That was messed up of Stalin. Settler colonialism anyone? But you're right that I had my information wrong, Crimea wasn't initially a part of Ukraine (nor Russia)
6:18 "and we want our opinion to be heared"
that didn't age well,
in context of being imprisoned for up to 15 years for speaking out against the invasion no matter is you are a russian journalists or civilian trying to ptotest,
That's war propaganda. It's simply not true.
@@mottedreissig7874 oh then you go ahead and pull a piece of paper above your head in front of the cremlin and lets see what happens ^^
@@kinngrimm why don't you just tell us, what will happen. With proof please, thx.
@@mottedreissig7874 mate i am not your servant. If you haven't watched just russian propaganda for the past year, you wouldn't even try to get me to do your work. Usually in these situations, even if i would then invest time to find all the shit i have read and watched online, you then still would claim my sources to be bogus. Been there done that. So maybe we are both prisoners of our echo chambers, but it wasn't me reacting on your comment but you on mine and therefor i would suggest you invest some of your time as i promise you that proof you asked for is out there. It had been all over the news.
"pray for ukraine" people need to watch this
this makes me realise how important it is for a country, that their provinces have as much independence as possible.
this is the core strength of decentralization. the people that govern you should live as close to you as possible. you should be able to easily march to the halls that have significant power over you. every power, every responsibility, every type of decision should be moved to as low a level of government as is possible. this is what's good for regular people.
Or at the very least, that the provinces' central government doesn’t hate them and actively want them dead.
@@j3ffn4v4rr0 how you wanna prove that? why the central government should hate them? it doesn't make sense, they don't profit bye dead people. but i can understand that some local people don't get enough recognition bye the distance from the government in there specific needs.
@@Natriarch OK sure, that is a fair question....but did you watch this video? Did you see the footage of crowds of people in Kiev chanting "Hang the Russians!" Did you see the interview with the family in East Ukraine who are descended from Russian blood, who wish they could get military help from Russia, because of attacks upon them? I completely agree with you, it doesn't make sense...but this is what is happening, all this time still, since this news segment was released. Released by the BBC, a major world news agency! But even though the situation has become even worse, it's being completely ignored by the media now. Ukrainian government and military has become saturated by extreme nationalists...literal Nazi ideologues...who want not just "independence from big bad Russia" but elimination of anyone not like them. The media now focuses only upon the independence part, and in doing so, they are attempting to convince everyone to support a far greater evil.
@@j3ffn4v4rr0 hi yea i watched this video and a lot others. you find all opinions everywhere, thats what it makes difficult. i saw allready so many fake protests. manipulated protests. if the protest doesn't take a really big scale its really hard to take it serious. The nazi idologues behind the military es well you find arguments that they are not and of course theoretics that they are. fact is to join the army you have to be kind of a nationalist and little crazy to fight and die for the intrest of your country. so what makes the nazis then really bad was antisemitism against the jews and that is highly not the case with a jew president. and of course the dictatorship, this is also not possible because they still have the law that the president can be just president for 2*5 years.
In general every big nation have intrest that they don't have strong indipendent neighbors. because when they decide to join your enemy you have a big danger direktly at your border. thats why they destabilise them with propaganda and everything they can. and they are amerika, eu, china, india, russia, southkorea, japan,..
This was an amazing piece of journalism. Truly Amazing
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
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Its old nowadays news is different
@@Relaxixix Yeah, nowadays the BBC is lying most of the time
Because they are actually Russian: speaking Russan with Russian culture. Why do some northern English want to be Scottish because there actually Scottish living south of the border .Borders change culture and language not so quickly.
But I'm not sure if England has ever sent any Scottish to Siberia for just speaking Scottish. Read about Holodomor too please.
@@khrystynayordan8298 they did indirectly caused the potato famine (not sure if it was planned genocide) but the brits did intentionally took the irish the foods to survive during the famine kinda similar to holodomir which lead to the deaths of one million irish.
Because, England is no more England, you can go to England and it's no more England
It's odd that the journalist said that the woman on the phone had said "we want autonomy, we don't want to be part of Russia" yet the subtitles came up as "we would agree to autonomy. I don't think Putin wants us" which is a little different. And quite interesting how things can get translated.
BTW a typical BBC type of interview: vox pop rather than anything serious. They do that in the UK as well. Walk about a town centre before elections asking one or two odd bods what they think and how they will vote. 8 minutes of a 30 minute bulletin wasted. Same here, cups of tea, religious services etc.
@@svetlanak7766 BBC like ABC have forgotten how to be impartial. They don't care, they are very successful in what they do and know the masses swallow propaganda.
It's not "odd", the BBC are just liars.
exactly, I also was surprised by this interpretation of what she said...
Watching this today during ukraine-russia crisis. I hope everything goes well.
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
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And it did not....
@@sophia8376 They're not independent at all, just pro-russia
It did not.. They were bombed like hell, mostly by Russia.
@@morbidangel83 they bombed by ukrainians since 2014, and now by russia since february 2022
Some very nice reporting there, every person interviewed seemed to talk right from their heart, makes for an amazing viewer immersion.
THIS ARE RUSSIANS.
This are Russians in Donetsk.
Wonder what happened to the same BBC now
@@avi9857 Oh, even the German reporting standards have gone down the drain, while YT is blocking videos and whole channels that go against the western narrative left and right. The age of post-truth is here.
Helps when the interviewer speaks to them in their own language.
Especially when they spoke over and over how they should have the right to decide who others marry.
Why should such a people be allowed to make decisions themselves on their own lives?
2024 ANYONE?
Because they are not idiots?
thanks to the journalists for this informative documentation
From the first phone call, this reporters Russian blows big time, where she says that the young girl who was on the phone " Saying she doesn't want to be part of Russia" the girl said ' Putin doesn't need us" is the correct translation, because they feel abandoned after what happened with Crimea. They are not getting any support from Russia whatsoever. It is a bit shameful really.
The phone conversation's captions did not match what she said the lady was saying!
How do i link one of the important parts at 7:52 ?
Excellent documentaries:
“ Ukrainian Agony. The concealed War” also
“Donbass: the 8 year war”
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Nobody in Europe wants to talk about the 8 years of Ukrainian shelling on the Dunbass that killed an estimated 14,000 ethnic Russian people living in the Dunbass region....they only want you to tink about the Ukrainians who have died in this war now....people have been killed for 8 years and nobody in Europe said anything .....Europe is accursed..
Thank God i found "finally" a video about the other side of Ukrainians ! thank you !
at least we must show the two sides ! not just propagandized videos with drama music like I saw everywhere !
Exactly
This kind of video has been rarely seen at this time. Things what I can see are one -sided, bised information conducted by Western media. That's exactly the way they did with Iraq, Lybia, Syria and other wars lead by so -called US democracy. Not democracy at all. It is US hipocrisy no more no less.
@@lylong9921 precisely. It's easier to fool people than convince them they're being fooled. People don’t want to see, hear or talk about the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed
This was 8 years ago lmao I bet if you talk to the very same people today they would have changed their minds completely
@@Specogecko apart from the 14000 dead ones. I bet there’s a few Ukrainians who’ve decided that holding out to join NATO wasn’t such a good idea either
So, do these people have the right for self determination or not?
If these people want to be in Russia they can move to Russia
@@Raven_12345 If the Ukrainian government did not want them to rebel, they could have stopped bombing them and unban political parities and the Russian language.
@@XBoxwolf What are you talking about? They never did anything to those people in Donetsk and Luhansk by bombing, banning political parties, and the Russian language.
Yes and now they are part of Russia their wish came true
@@Raven_12345yes they did, since the Nazis took power on 2014 they were targeting Russians in order to force Russian troops to intervene now these Nazis are destroyed
People that want to be part of another country, endeavor to move to that country, and don't ask that other country to come over to get them, sheesh...
Why on earth should they leave their lands, which became part of a foreign state due to the geopolitical catastrophe of the last century?
Russia is like a cancer
The people found themselves on the wrong side of a new border, through an accident of history. Why should they move? Here's an analogy for you: the USA fought two wars, against Spain and later against newly independent Mexico, gaining huge territories. Many found themselves living in the USA where they had previously been Mexican. Their descendants are now treated as illegal immigrants and despised, much as the nationalistic Ukrainians despise their Russian population.
Again, just an accident of history. Borders have been going back and forth for centuries, and will continue to do so.
Well this aged like fine wine
Good independent report with minimum of policy and propaganda! This report gives a more less full information about the things taking place on the west of Ukraine, describing the opinions of the citizens of Ukraine.
Thanks for your comment George
+George G this isn't BBC news, they stole this from Vice News.
+Kassa link?
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
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@@BBCNews BBC you’ve lost your integrity and now fabricate news, lie and mislead. Shame on BBC
Krimea and Donbas region are ethnically Russian and were part of Russia until 1957. After dissolution of USSR, they wanted independence, but Ukrainian forces invaded and occupied the area ever since.
Just reporting a slightly inaccurate subtitle. When the man at [1:57] starts ranting about Europe, he doesn't just say fascism, he says "gender fascism" ("гендерный фашизм") I think, even though I didn't know such a thing existed.
Search for Kier Starmer (labour leader in uk) being asked what a woman is or, can a woman have a penis. Labour say a woman can have a penis and if you call them 'he' instead of 'she' then you can be punished for misgendering. Perhaps that is the sort of thing he means by gender fascism.
Reporter is presenting everything in a DISTORTED way.
For example, in her translation of the eavesdroped conversation of a woman talking on the phone, the woman said:
"It's not going to be better with Russia, we need a greater autonomy, we don't need to be part of Russia"...
While, in fact the REAL phrase was:
"Well, would be good at least to get autonomy... I'd agree that... About going to Russia - Putin desn't really need us..."
That's just one example. All the report is full of this kind of distortions.
The episodes, telling pro-russian point of view are presented in a ridiculous way.
The translation of what the women was saying over the phone is provided in the English subtitles and is the same as what what you wrote in your comment.
I don't think the reporter was translating her words, but summarizing the rest of the conversation.
The translation is correct. I am fluent in Russian and English. Only one thing is instead of need, she said Putin does not really want us.
Even a blind can say that interfering in Ukraine's matter by US was not right. US promoted Ukraine's protests and thought Russia would be silently watching.
Anyone would be a fool if they think Russia would let Kiev to go to NATO, Kiev is the cradle for Russian civilisation and it is not going anywhere. Use your brains..
This aged well...
@@samcraft3 reddit is in the building
@@hinderminder5250 I don’t use reddit :|
@@samcraft3 of course you don't
Fight For Justice
People are being robbed of Democrat party politicians to finance the Democratic party's mistakes in the GENOCIDE committed by its Ukrainian neo-nazi allies.
Ukrainian neo nazis versus Russian-speaking Ukrainians (2014-2022).
United States (Democrat Party) - NATO vs The Russian Federation.
(2022)
Venue: Ukraine.
The chronology begins with the efforts of the United States and NATO to provoke the Russian Federation.
The United States and NATO fostered neo-nazi radical groups in Ukraine to be the executors of genocide against russian-speaking Ukrainians.
America and NATO bought Ukrainian politicians to serve as cheerleading puppets and served as envoys to control the Ukrainian people under the guise of nationalism.
Why was Ukraine chosen to be an arena of war...?
Because Ukraine is the only location that qualifies.
Having a radical neo-nazi group, there is a target of genocide that can provoke russian anger, geographically quite large.
15,000 eastern Ukrainians have been murdered, raped, tortured by Ukrainian neo-nazis in the eight years since 2014.
After 8 years of peace efforts, but Ukrainian neo-nazis have always undermined and destroyed peace efforts and agreements by campaigning to join NATO, and it is clearly the second attempt at provocation besides the genocide that American and NATO politicians have designed.
In February 2022, the Russian federation responded to U.S. and NATO provocations. Ukrainians are victims of American foreign policy (democratic party) and NATO.
I suggest we study this conflict also from the reportage of independent journalists such as PATRICK LANCASTER (US) on the TH-cam channel.
Or....
Eva K Bartlett (Canada),
Graham Phillips (UK),
VN Rangeloni (Italy),
Ruben Gisbert (Spain),
John Mark Dougan (US)
Their reprotase is on their respective youtube channels
And....
Cristelle (FRANCE) On youtube channel : Donbass Insiders
..................
and many independent journalists from various countries...
Please review it for yourself after seeing the various data submitted by the independent journalist since 8 years ago.
May the civilians of western Ukraine and from the east soon find peace.
And rotten politicians and fascist mobs must be eradicated for a better future for Ukraine
There are also at least two documentaries that many people from various countries need to know, because this documentary is also a piece of data that complements the reportage of Patrick Lancaster and other independent journalists
Mark Bartalmai (German)
Title : ukraine agony the concealed war
Made in 2014
Oliver Stone (US)
Title : UKRAINE ON FIRE
Made in 2015
And I really appreciate LIVRE NOIR (FRANCE) journalistic work.
And I also advise all of us to look intellectually at the work
ANNE LAURE BONNEL.
I suggest you learn a little from the discussion on The Duran (TH-cam) and The New Atlas
That has to be the most truthful dinner ever had. Straight facts being spoken on that dinner table.
The female reporter is checking out the man’s wife’s butt at 6:12 look at her eyes following the booty!
Say you're a mutt or just bilingual- why do you HAVE to choose a side? Because some CIA shill from FB or TH-cam said so???
9 Years ago
here in Japan, journalism is dead. or there had been no such thing in here for the first place at all. this is journalism. great work.
Maybe okinawa can break away so that you can get this kind of journalism 😀
BBC is not telling two side of story anymore.
Independent journalists reporting Ukrainian war from frontline: Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips
CGTN’s journalist: Dmitriy Maslak
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Journalism died 8 years ago. Julian Assage is the best exemple.
Dead as all of Europe except in other part of Asia,Africa and Latin America..
Canada has managed to move from strong separatism in Quebic to bilingual and bicultural society with a good deal of autonomy for Quebec. At the time this BBC report was made Russian language had not been 'attacked' but since then it has been banned from schools and public life. Russian cultural products have also been banned. The politicised campaign to 'de-Russify' Ukraine is not about liberation but about hate.
Nice way to twist the story. Yes Canada is free, but speak English in Quebec and they are allowed to arrest you. As for the whole questions related to Ukraine and Russia both have Nazis in government in military and both suffer from corruption.
@@jojojojo4332 Try to ask Ukrainians, who they officially recognized as a national hero in 2010?
@@mohamednoaman8082 funny. I speak to them daily, what are you trying to insinuate. That they aren't allowed to choose a president of there own choice.
@@jojojojo4332 Stepan Bandera "Nazis leader"j
@@mohamednoaman8082 Yevgeny Prigozhin, neo Nazi. Ally of Putin, owner of Wagner group.
Sadest thing was seeing the boy at 4:36 knowing now he's probably old enough to fight.
old enough now
And now they are Russian cityzens
Este vídeo es muy importante para aquellas personas que quieren entender el conflicto actual. Gracias
glad to know mexico is on your side
Eso no justifica la violencia, ¿cómo te ayuda a entender eso?
What conflict? Rusdia's invadion? Eait until Putin's looting marauders retreat through their homes.
@@romulo9666 On your side, which side are you on? The criminal Putin side or the Ukrainian side of survival and non justified killings?
Russians in Ukraine are not supposed to be in Ukraine
Girl actually said "Putin doesn't need us", reporters translation was wrong...
This happens very often, one reporter after another reporting the same news, wording differently the story is different.
And they saya:"We asked! But Russia doesn't come"
The subs are correct there.
Russian, a Slavic language, is radically different from English, a Germanic language.
Mistranslation is inevitable
because they know the truth they're not blinded .😂😂😂😂😂
Ukrainians who are pro maidan should watch this video ! In its entirety ! This is proof that at the time when Kiev was saying it was disarming, it was actually amassing troops, contrary to the agreements that were made.
In fact there is video of Merkel where she admits that during the post-war negotiations 2014 they were preparing, they knew it while talking about peace.
"Russian will never bring troops" - that did not age well
Are you sure? Theyre in there now ,entering & retrating !
@@wOwcookie609 the word is "liberating"
BBC why don't you go in Jerusalem, in Gaza, in Palestine and report about the apartheid system the Palestinians are living in ? Why have you never, ever asked questions to Palestinians women, m'en and children being ethnically cleansed in East Jerusalem ? Why don't you report about the occupation, the daily killings, the humiliations, the plight of this people ? Or do Palestinian lives not matter like European ones ? Amnesty International has issued several reports condemning Israel and still Great Britain, Germany, France have been rejecting the reports. Why?
Cuz they care only about Europe. They don't care about peace in whole world.
Guess cause they don't like bacon? 😁🤣😁🤣😁
Because it's not about Israel nor Palestinian people! It's about Ukraine! Write to the BBC producers and request your topic to be covered!
How would you like it if a Report was about the Palestinian suffering, and some people trying to highjack the comments for the Chechens or Ukraine, would u like that??
@@lenitaa7938 everyone knows bbc is a western media.
Why they didn't cover syria and iraq or lybia? Why are the ukrania war different than others?
Iya because western people and western media are racist, double standard.
Also a good explanation about this conflict in the interviews from the local residents in video report "Ukrainian Military Give Up Their Weapons: Russian Roulette" (2014) - on VICE News channel.
if zelensky is my president, i'd rebel too
I suppose it's not relevant to mention stuff like...
-these people were Russian 25 years ago
-they still speak Russian think of themselves as Russian, and have Russian families
-that the East of Ukraine used to be a major hub of Russian industry, so their economy is geared around manufacturing and materials exports to Russia
-geopoltics aside, the EU deal just wasn't preferable to the Russian deal in any sense
-the new government is a direct result of the US sponsoring anti-Russian groups regardless of their other political views
-the people in the East mainly didn't want a revolution in the first place
-that foreign powers say it's ok to take up arms in revolution if it's useful for a US strategy of encirclement, but not OK to take up arms when you're being shelled for not accepting the revolution..
Stuff like that. It's probably about more than just not liking gays. Well done for such a detailed and nuanced report. Come on BBC, grow a pair.
Forgot to mention Stalin's ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians by stravation in Eastern Ukraine in the 1930s and the subsequent forced repopulation of those areas with ethnic russians there buddy
@@grilledcheeseondarahdiator
Forgot to mention that 70% of Ukrainians voted to continue the USSR there, buddy.
7:54 < watch this part where Oleg in Eastern Ukraine shows a video of a student demonstration in Kiev, shouting "Hang the Russians!"...and that they (those who live in the region with Oleg and his family) would like military help from Russian troops, but they will be called "separatists", America will say Russia is "annexing" and that it will escalate further war. Oleg knew what he was talking about, don't you think?
4 million people did. These people are now fighting alongside the Russian troops.
@@annasoldatova6739 Sorry, I don't completely understand what you mean....4 million who, did what? You mean, that many Donbas residents joined to fight with Russia in the current conflict?
@Crusita Dewi I'm not sure what your point is....are you referring to my original comment? ...or are you referring to my reply to Anna Soldatova? "nope" what?
The English ‘closed captioning’ ie ‘cc’ is wrong. The captions from the film are correct.
this video says a lot about current situation then any current biased news
Per video they are homophobs, betrayed their homeland, want back to USSR - nothing new, just uneducated people.
Interesting :) Very good journalist. Seems much closer to the truth than other media try to convey to the masses.
What do you think about how they are conveying to the masses now?
I wonder whether people in the West paid any attention to these documentaries at all, until war broke out.
Yes they paid attention but never count it
8:20 This dude literally saw the future
7:55 is very important
Wow! Thank you for showing this situation from the both sides! Those children who shouted “hang the Russians” now have faced the music!
It’s very interesting to watch this video at this time ( April 21, 2022 ). Hopefully this bloody war ends soon the life of innocent People will be saved. I wish a happy and peaceful Eastern for both Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox Christians. Peace to the World.
Who are the innocents?? the ones screaming "Hang the Russians" ????
Fight For Justice
People are being robbed of Democrat party politicians to finance the Democratic party's mistakes in the GENOCIDE committed by its Ukrainian neo-nazi allies.
Ukrainian neo nazis versus Russian-speaking Ukrainians (2014-2022).
United States (Democrat Party) - NATO vs The Russian Federation.
(2022)
Venue: Ukraine.
The chronology begins with the efforts of the United States and NATO to provoke the Russian Federation.
The United States and NATO fostered neo-nazi radical groups in Ukraine to be the executors of genocide against russian-speaking Ukrainians.
America and NATO bought Ukrainian politicians to serve as cheerleading puppets and served as envoys to control the Ukrainian people under the guise of nationalism.
Why was Ukraine chosen to be an arena of war...?
Because Ukraine is the only location that qualifies.
Having a radical neo-nazi group, there is a target of genocide that can provoke russian anger, geographically quite large.
15,000 eastern Ukrainians have been murdered, raped, tortured by Ukrainian neo-nazis in the eight years since 2014.
After 8 years of peace efforts, but Ukrainian neo-nazis have always undermined and destroyed peace efforts and agreements by campaigning to join NATO, and it is clearly the second attempt at provocation besides the genocide that American and NATO politicians have designed.
In February 2022, the Russian federation responded to U.S. and NATO provocations. Ukrainians are victims of American foreign policy (democratic party) and NATO.
I suggest we study this conflict also from the reportage of independent journalists such as PATRICK LANCASTER (US) on the TH-cam channel.
Or....
Eva K Bartlett (Canada),
Graham Phillips (UK),
VN Rangeloni (Italy),
Ruben Gisbert (Spain),
John Mark Dougan (US)
Their reprotase is on their respective youtube channels
And....
Cristelle (FRANCE) On youtube channel : Donbass Insiders
..................
and many independent journalists from various countries...
Please review it for yourself after seeing the various data submitted by the independent journalist since 8 years ago.
May the civilians of western Ukraine and from the east soon find peace.
And rotten politicians and fascist mobs must be eradicated for a better future for Ukraine
There are also at least two documentaries that many people from various countries need to know, because this documentary is also a piece of data that complements the reportage of Patrick Lancaster and other independent journalists
Mark Bartalmai (German)
Title : ukraine agony the concealed war
Made in 2014
Oliver Stone (US)
Title : UKRAINE ON FIRE
Made in 2015
And I really appreciate LIVRE NOIR (FRANCE) journalistic work.
And I also advise all of us to look intellectually at the work
ANNE LAURE BONNEL.
I suggest you learn a little from the discussion on The Duran (TH-cam) and The New Atlas
This didn't age well
Now these same kids chanting "Hang the Russians" would be forced to go into frontlines and many probably are dead already.