Nikon ZF VS X-T5: Has Nikon released a Fuji Killer?
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The new Nikon ZF may be a game-changer for Fuji as Nikon seems to be investing heavily into the "retro" look that Fuji is famous for. In this video, Booray takes a look at the Nikon ZF vs. Fuji X-T5
00:00 - Intro
01:59 - Price
02:27 - Style
05:06 - Sensor
06:49 - LCD Screen
07:38 - VF
09:14 - Battery
10:18 - Free Ebooks
12:01 - Video
12:30 - Autofocus
13:18 - Shutter
14:09 - ISO
15:00 - IBIS
17:22 - Notes
20:51 - Conclusion
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If Nikon had done this in 2014 I'd be shooting Nikon again. But they didn't, so I bought an X-T1 and nothing will pry my Fuji cameras away from me now. If I had an abondance of $$$ I might buy the Nikon for nostalgic purposes, but they didn't quite get there in time for me. This doesn't explain why several other digital camera manufacturers make ugly cameras, the there's not doubt the new Nikon is interesting, now, and how/what will happen with future releases.
I'm a Nikon shooter, I own the Zfc, before I had the X100T and sold it. The battery life is much longer than what is stated officially, so I would not worry. I have the black Zfc and will get the Zf as well. This camera is better than any Fuji X camera on the market, you can't compare it. And I have so many old AI-lenses, it's just a joy to see that I can now use them without crop.
Very interesting. Do you need an adapter to use the AI lenses? Thanks
Hi Booray Perry - I like your style of presentation and you seem to be reasonably unbiased, which is very appreciated. That said, there are some things you should be aware of:
1) the CIPA rating on the battery life is totally out of whack with reality. I easily shoot an entire wedding day with 2 Nikon ENEL-15C batteries on the Z6II (same battery as is in the Zf). I have no doubt that this battery will be fully sufficient for any and all professional use.
2) the reason for the micro SD card is simply for space savings - the choice was 1 card or 2 with the micro and I think it is clear that Nikon made the right choice.
3) The Nikon Zf does 4k 60 but with an APS-C crop - this is is de facto as good as the Fuji as the Fuji is an APS-C camera.
4) ISO performance is not only better on the Nikon due to its native range, but also the fact that full frame is much more competent in low light than APS-C - but more to the point, the Nikon Zf focuses to -10 EV at 1.2 - so call it -9EV at 1.6, or -8EV at 2.2 - this is really industry leading at this point and just as important as the ISO range etc.
Ironically you said, "congratulations, you can now get a "Fuji Style" camera in Full Frame", and I get what you are trying to say, but I think you forget that there were no Fuji cameras back in the film days - besides disposables and later point and shoots - literally the so called "Fuji Style" camera is modeled after the old Nikons with perhaps the Canon AE-1 thrown in. So, Nikon is NOT imitating Fuji - to the contrary Fuji is and has always imitated Nikon - Nikon is now taking its rightful place in producing a camera based on the designs that they created in the first place.
And to point 1 above, I assure you that the battery is sufficient for professional work. I would say that the ergonomics of the grip are lacking for pro work, but that does not seem to be something that bothers you as this is clearly the case with Fuji cameras as they have no grip to speak of either - I am sure in both cases there are third party options - for the Nikon we already know that Small Rig has designed a grip specifically for the Nikon Zf.
Finally, you speak of lens selection. You should know that Nikon is again at the forefront of optical design in the inustry. Simply put, the Z S line lenses are second to none in the market. They have a line of 1.8 S primes that are literally professional grad 1.8's - not the 1/8's of old but top of class IQ, build quality, aberration control and focus breathing corrected. In short, they are the best body of 1.8 primes on the market. Nikons faster glass is also spectacular and better than the competition.
So, from a pro standpoint, especially for events/weddings - what is most important? 1) ergonomics - we must hold the camera all day long - this is where the Nikon Zf falls down a bit but no more so than the Fuji's which are equally uncomfortable to hold, 2) low light performance - no comparison - The Nikon is full frame and focus in much darker situations, 3) lenses - no comparison - for anyone that has used the new S line glass from Nikon - it is better than (and at its worst as good as) any lenses from any other manufacturer., 4) battery life - yes the CIPA rating is low, and always seems to be an under estimate especially when it comes to Nikon, but I can assure you that the ENEL-15C battery is sufficient for any professional event work - 2 batteries will carry the day - 3 at the most - this is not really different than what you need with the Fuji.
Finally, I always struggle to undertand how anyone would choose APS-C for pro use. I am not saying that you cannot get good images with APS-C as I know one can and I have myself, but the inherent disadvantages in low light and subject isolation just make me scratch my head as to why this would be a first choice - it is the reason that I never invested in Fuji gear to be honest. If it is just about size and weight, I suppose that was a reason in the past, but the Zf is not that big of a camera (neither is the Z6/7 form factor).
Anyway, I am not dumping on Fuji - even if it appears that I am. I like their aesthetics and I know several colleagues that swear by their color profiles. As a RAW shooter, I guess I just don't see this as that much of an advantage as RAW files (especially Nikon NEF files that are among the best RAW files out there) can be made to look any way with editing - including just like any Fuji file - there are literally presets out there than imitate the Fuji film profiles for non-Fuji images.
I have gone on for too long, but wanted to be sure that some of the salient facts you missed were addressed.
That said, nice video and presentation!
-PD
Fujifilm simulations are surely a great nice to have, but should not be considered as a dealbreaker, especially for raw shooters.
Fuji and Nikon user here. A big win for Nikon and Manual focus. The ZF has subject/face/eye detection in manual focus w/ direct punch in magnification. Breathes new life into my old Nikon glass and provides a better way to MF(on people) than focus peaking.
This is interesting. Don't know how this detection works, anyway also with fuji you have a direct punch in magnification with Voigt lenses for example. I hate mf by wire so I use in mf only real mf lenses.
I got tired of waiting for Xpro4 and pulled the trigger on this. If Nikon can make a range finder version of ZF. They can really go after Fuji.
Yep, a mirrorless FF version of Nikon’s famous ‘S’ rangefinder series from the 50s, bye-bye…X-Pros. Fuji, Nikon is gunnin’ for ya, time to step it up.
They did a great job with this body, other than battery life and the weird card setup. To go all in on the retro thing, though, they really need a new line of lenses for these. The Nikon Z lenses are huge and ugly. A series of small ones like the 40 would be great in a 28 and 85…
@@BradleyHansonPhotography with aperture rings.
@@nimai0108 exactly!
@@nimai0108Aperture Ring is a MUST have
i didnt give up on Nikon and waited years shooting my D810. The camera that ive been waiting for has arrived.
I have worked with Nikon cameras for many years and I am still convinced by the products, the menu navigation and the quality of the results.
But then Fuji moved into my studio with an X-T3 to try out. . The quality of the results despite the APS-C sensor completely convinced me. The argument for changing was ultimately the size and weight of the system, especially the lenses, and the associated price structure.
At Fuji there was also the beautiful retro look, the image preview of the mirrorless system, the film simulations and the generous and useful firmware updates.
OK for sure, if I were still active in the Nikon system, I would definitely have ordered the ZF as a privat add-on for fun, but with a fully equipped Fuji system, this camera is completely unappealing to me.
The only thing I really miss is the auto focus system, but it looks like Fuji has recognized the problem and is rapidly catching up.
We will see what the friendly company with an eye on their users, will bring us in the future.
P.S. Thank you for your great content, it's a pleasure to watch, keep it up. 🙏🥰👍🏼
Best wishes from Germany.
The black & white modus on the new Zf is actualy 3 different types of B&W, comparable with Acros, regular B&W and another type.
Even on my Z50 there is a digital zoom possibility for the manual focussing. I moved it to the F2 button on the front of the camera and it works great.
I too tweaked my B/W recipes Fuji Film weekly Richie created several recipes. They work quite well!
TL;DR the Nikon EN-EL15C battery is huge and will last at least 2 days for casual shooters.
I might be a few months late, and this is just a mere observation about the Nikon battery. I have the Nikon Z5 which has the same battery as the Nikon ZF. Although the processor of my Z5 is older which might have contributed to the savings, I was able to produce a whooping 1,100 clicks (with 20% left at the end of day, 2 SD cards for RAW+Jpeg). Websites say 380 clicks as well for the Z5 but I think it's super conservative.
Although I’m sure Nikon was well aware of the competitive factor re: Fuji cameras, let’s not forget that this is not Nikon’s first venture into the retro styling world. They released the Nikon df almost 10 years ago so I don’t think it was a strategic decision to go after Fuji but perhaps an additional motivation.
I disagree because this camera is absolutely awesome
The DF was a flop. They seem to have learned from their mistakes because the Zf look like a banger.
The Df was nice, but also a failure. It had a retro front and top plate, but the backside looked like a similar Nikon DSLR, and it was back then uber-expensive into 2013. Furtherway, it used the 16 MP D4 Sensor, whileas using at the same time the 39 Point D7000 (DX) AF System - into short, it was a mish-mash product, uncompleted...*but* it could use Nikon AF-D lenses, and focus them with AF, unlike the Zf, simply because there's no FTZ III adapter with screwdrive BiM, which could use those old lenses with AF onto *any* Z-Mount body...one can only focus manually...which sucks.
Back then… yes a flop, but this era? Everyone is crazy about retro scene😅
Only Hipsters and Defluencers! I shoot with that gear since almost 4 decades, when it was current, not "retro" or -vintage, back into its heyday.@@osaprakoso
Will the Nikon lenses for this camera have an aperture ring? I know it’s only a small detail but, for me, it one of the factors that completes the experience of using this style of camera.
I don't believe so..
I am with you there. I didn't know how much I actually really liked the aperture ring on the lenses, but I wouldn't want it any other way. I keep hoping that these other companies would start to put them on their lenses also, but they just keep relying on the on body dials. To each their own I guess, but I love the aperture ring
@@just_A_Hack I had to get used to it but now I like it simply because i now have the exposure triangle mapped to 3 dials instead of just two.
Check out Voightlander excellent MF lenses.
As a long-term Fuji user - and I use them because as an 'oldie' I find the dials etc are more relateable to my length of experience than front and rear rotating wheels - I am afraid this camera could make me very disloyal. I love Fuji glass but as a former Nikon shooter (film days) I love even more the Nikon lens ecosphere, especially some of the old manual AI glass. You are spot on about the decision point for Fuji users being around the X-T5. This camera is very disruptive to the Fuji world, imho.
The new Nikon Z glass is simply amazing. Their 1.8 S lineup (24mm, 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm) for $400-600 and the optics are PHENOMENAL. Nothing that Canon or Sony have can compare to the price:performance ratio of Nikon glass.
@@IPGAutoI do think the best reasons to go Nikon is the 40 2.0 and 28 2.8
@@IPGAutoagree with u, the quality of Nikon lens blow my mind. Microcontrast, sharpness, contrast, ... all better than Fuji-Canon_ Sony lens at the same even the higher price
@@dai9775 - Exactly. Look at Sonys 1.8 glass, it’s cheap and the optics are pathetic. If you want better glass, you have to jump to the GM glass. Nikons 1.8 S Primes give you GM quality at $500-$700 mint condition used.
I’m so glad I found your channel. I’ve been a Fuji user for years, and I love this system. Your content is 💯 - and I’ll be downloading your PDF’s as well. Thank you for this channel! (Just subscribed.) 🙂
I'm glad you found me too and thank you so much for the wonderful comment. :)
I do architectural photography and the Zf (after years of using Sony) has been an incredible performer! Battery life must be way more than officially stated because I have consistently gotten more than 500 pics (shooting in RAW) out of a single battery charge on standard battery mode.
I tried Fujis for a year because I love the retro film design and controls, but got rid of them because they couldn’t perform that well in low light and the autofocus was so-so.
The autofocus of the Zf is by far the best I’ve ever used (shocking since it used to be the worst in the DSLR days), the colors are as good as Fuji, and way better than Sony. The dynamic range is insane, I could go on, but you get the point.
I even picked up a crop sensor Zfc as a backup camera and it STILL outperforms the Fujis in low light.
I have both systems… and ZF hands down …selling all my apsc Fujifilm systems and not looking back… ZF will be in good company sat next to my Z6 and Z9…
I had a black Nikon FE2 back in the day & I was in love with it, so the Zf retro styling is fine, but I’m not especially worried about retro styling these days, so I would actually prefer to have that Nikon Zf sensor, Exspeed 7 processor, & Zf specifications list inside a D780 or even D3 style body. A 24MP full frame is a sweet spot for me.
Great comparison video! The B/W switch, with an EVF, would be a game changer if your natural light abruptly changes from 'good-for-color' to 'good-for-monochrome'.
100% right, composing is easier sometimes in color , sometimes in b&w depending n the light and the background. It’s the main reason I switched to xt1 when it came out
Personally love the PASM lever. A very stylish implementation. Omission of silver is a downer. Nikon hit it out of the park on style.
I would like a silver version as well but after seeing Ricci's vid where he used sandpaper to reveal the brass underneath the black paint, I thought man, that'll be pretty sweet too.
No but Nikon does plan to release seven different colored versions so you can be picky if you don't want black.
@@michaellee3903It's six colors plus black. They could have added those six colors with a silver top too !
Sorry to see the Photobomb Podcast end. It was the only podcast that I look forward to every Tue/Wed.
That's really nice of you to say. We enjoyed doing it. :)
Booray, to answer your question at @19:37, I’m one of those people who actually really likes the new B&W mode. To me, it fits the whole ethos of the camera and I actually find SOOC monochrome images from my Z7ii to have really nice tones and gradations. Thus, I treat them like I treat my film sims from my X-T5.
I think I would like it too. :)
Played around with the ZF extensively. Absolutely amazing retro camera. Definitely a "fuji killer" if you can call it that. The biggest downfall is the total lack of lenses with an aperture ring. Since i shoot in aperture priority mode >90% of the time this makes the whole retro appeal a moot point unfortunately
Works amazingly with old adapted lenses though. Especially zooming in to the detected eye for manual focus is amazing
It's interesting how many people are addicted to the aperture ring. People who don't use Fuji think it's ridiculous. 🙂
@@BoorayPerry I don't use Fuji at all, I do however still use analog cameras alongside my digital one and like the user experience quite a lot, which is why having a "retro" style camera needs to have lenses with an aperture ring imho
@@CianMcsweeney Thats exactly what I said though? The camera is absolutely amazing, but because of the lack of glass it falls short...
@@tolga1cool I wasn't replying to you apologies, was replying to @BoorayPerry, redid the reply there
@@BoorayPerry I disagree, even all of sonys new lenses have aperture rings now
So beautiful I immediately felt tempted... but I must say I don't use Fuji purely for nostalgic 'retro' reasons. In fact I use an XS10 as a daily camera - what hooked me was the simulations and the small, good, affordable lenses. With aperture rings! That, more than ISO and SS, is what I really want to control in an 'analogue' way. I don't want to buy into a body purely for nostalgic reasons. So the issue will be, do I need full frame? I didn't buy a full frame up to now, and not only because they aren't retro styled... I will have to wait and see if the full frame really does offer enough advantages over the latest Fuji sensor. But man, this Nikon is attractive...
I'll probably buy a Nikon ZF in coming months. I have several Fuji cameras (XT-3, XT-2 and X100V) and several Nikons (D800E, D500 and Z6II) and an assortment of Nikon and Fuji lenses. I'll keep the X100V and one of the XTs, I'll part with a Z 6II and eventually the D500 (based on what the expected Z6III will look like for wildlife and sports). The different colored ZF bodies don't appeal to me, so I'll stick with black. One of the most interesting things to me cosmetically is that the dials are made of brass, and as the paint wears off of the dials the brass comes through.
Oh, that's cool!
Micro SD is not odd. Anybody who uses a GoPro is familiar with them. The only down side is they can be a little bit slower than the V90 SDXC cards, but not much. And if you get V60 SCXC cards they are the same speed. They use less power and take up much less space. Also, the R/W interface is smaller inside the camera. So it is a good choice.
You could say that I love you about a lot of features,whenwhen it regards to black and white switch ability, but not having to go to the menus is excellent
The Japanese concept of Wabi sabi embraces the search for beauty in imperfection, that's why I bought a used Leica M240. It is the perfectly imperfect camera - No IBIS, autofocus, 10 bit internal, face recognition, etc; At 66 it feels like an old friend returning home.
That's the first time "Wabi sabi" has been mentioned in a comment and it was a great one. :)
I have had the experience of lugging around a bag full of full frame lenses, and found it no fun at all. Which is why I switched first to Micro Four Thirds, and now to Fuji. I must say that I also like the retro styling of the Fujis.
The new Nikon ZF is more comparable to the X-T4 than the X-T5. I own and use the original Nikon Df which is a digital way to use my old MF Nikkor lenses but also couples well with my AF-S Nikkors. The problem with this modern Nikon ZF as well as the previous Zfc is Nikon no longer makes lenses with aperture rings. I'm into the Fujifilm line because of their rendering of digital cameras that still have all the dials. I learned how to be a photographer using the old Nikon pro 35mm cameras which had manual controls. So, using the Fuji X-t series is very close to the way I learned photography. I use modern digital cameras that have PASM dials but I don't like them. Hense, my love for the Fuji X-T series.
What about the weather sealing?
When I was younger all I wanted was a Nikon because back then, that was the camera to have... Having used, Canon, Sony and now recently Fujifilm X-T4, I don't see a single reason I'd want the ZF. I specifically ran away from the extreme cost that is fullframe. I'm loving the Fujifilm colors, even more the sims I can mess around with when I don't need to edit every single phot I take. I honestly don't see myself leaving fuji anytime soon, I'm absolutely in love with this gear.
I love everything about the fujis except for the DR. If I meter the grass for middle the grey the clouds should not blow out…but they do. Personally I would have much rather see Fuji increase the DR on the new sensor as opposed increasing the MP. I will def be taking a very close look at the Nikon. I already have a Nikon FM, so it would make a beautiful companion. :-)
Depends. Nikon has the full frame body and Fuji has the lenses. So it depends what you prioritize. If you want an all manual feel, compact camera, and small lenses, go Fuji XT. If you want more of an automated mirrorless full frame with larger AF lenses then get the Nikon.
For the Nikon to work 100% as a retro manual camera they would have to release a lineup of small, compact, manual, vintage Nikkor lenses for the new mount (yes with a real aperture ring).
The colors don’t matter because anyone with any taste and sense will get black.
As far as the sensor. Check how the Fuji does over 3200ISO and how the Zf handles it. IMO, probably the full frame 24MP sensor will handle high ISO noise a lot better than a small sensor with a lot of megapixels (that most people buying these things don’t really need).
Video LCD’s on cameras for photography don’t really work. That’s why Fuji users prefer the tilt screen not a video screen.
The Zf should have no video. It should have a tilt screen only and a lineup of real manual lenses to go with it. And come in black leather only in black or silver finish. It should also have a very minimal menu set. It shouldn’t have many options. Only the things needed to make photographs. And that’s it. The simpler and less features the better.
I heard the Zf you can use AF face detection in manual focus mode - it finds the faces and allows zoom in directly on the face - but I haven’t seen it
It's interesting you call the Fuji sensor "bigger". Obviously the Nikon sensor is bigger and will have better characteristics ( esp for noise ) even if it's less megapixels. I'm happy it is 24mpix honestly. The black and white is actually interesting because the viewfinder switches so you can see in black and white when taking a pic and it still records RAW.
I think you gave a very fair review considering you are clearly in the Fuji "Space" as you put it. I've been using Nikon sine the 90's. I get your issue with the battery but for hobbyists like myself, I've never taken even 300 pictures in one day so getting back to a hotel/cabin/camper/home and putting the battery back on the changer or, with the Nikon Zf, just plug in the USBC cable and you're ready for the next day's fun. Thank you for your time and what you do for your viewers!
There have been many comments that battery life is much better than Nikon says so maybe not an issue at all. Thanks for the thanks!
Nice video, thanks for sharing. One comment regarding battery life of the Zf. I bought a Z8 as a backup to my Z9 for my commercial aerial photography work. I was initially concerned about the limiting 340 shots/battery Nikon was advertising for the Z8. I tested the Z8’s battery out on a flight a few months back and was able to get over 1600 shots from a single battery. Needless to say my Z8 has now become my primary body for aerials.
I’m not sure what they do to come up with such a low number, but it’s not how I shoot.
You aren't the first to mention this. I may have to do a video about it. :)
Nikon is just being modest on their Z stuff which is good for us nikon users.
I’ve wanted a mirrorless ff for ages from Fuji since 2012 after owning the first x100.
Now I’m considering a Nikon for the first time in my life.
Agree....I hate this their choice to produce only aps-c and mf
@@rakoksyAll I want is a ff mirrorless and you can stick a fixed 35mm lens on it as well like Leica does (but its 28mm) with the Q series.
I tried the XH2, and this might be a lightroom not doing well with Fuji files problem, but it seemed like the 40MP was way too much for an APSC sensor. Low light was pretty much horrible and things just didn't look sharp to me.
Lightroom indeed still is an issue. C1 is still king, but I prefer Adobe workflow. I've since switched to Sony and I've got my eyes on the ZF.
Confirming my worst fears. Sticking with XT-2 / XT-3
I use both C1 and LR and have done 1,000s of photos on each. LR does a great job most of the time, but after editing thousands of files with it, I find it does have issues rendering Fuji files correctly - sometimes/most of the time, they can look "painterly" and smeary, for lack of a better word, when pixel peeping. I notice it mostly in outdoor shots with lots of grass, foliage, stuff like that in the mid / distant parts of the frame. Indoor portrait type stuff usually looks fine, but fabric textures and other details can look off. If you are sure you nailed focus etc., try using the "enhance details feature". If it is an image shot in broad daylight, set noise reduction to around 10-15 (if not, go a little higher). I don't like leaning on this feature, because the file size triples. But frankly when I do the images are even sharper/more detailed than anything I can get out of C1 or from in-camera JPEGs. LR has been developed around bayer sensors and so far they apparently cannot be bothered to import Xtrans files faithfully. It is a shame because it keeps more photographers locked into literally any other system.
C1 IMO is worse in terms of balancing contrast and noise, at times. It seems to compress JPEGs better - higher quality, smaller file sizes. It seems to pick a sharpness and noise reduction approach and I don't feel I have as much latitude or control over those things as I do with LR. It definitely has a "look" and you notice it when you've been using LR for awhile and switch back (its easy to avoid that look, if you want, by limiting what "auto adjust" is allowed to do). That said I find it easier to balance exposures/midtones and C1 seems a little more faithful to Fuji's film sims. The AI is also a lot harder to use, it is taking me awhile to learn it. But when it went on sale for 50% off for a "perpetual" license, I jumped on it because IMO the workflow is actually better, and it just runs better than LR. I have a powerful computer and LR just runs amazingly bad at times. C1 is almost as powerful and somehow has no issues.
BTW, the 40mp sensor is superior in terms of noise and low-light compared to my 26mp sensor. Once you SCALE the images properly, and, especially if you need to do large prints, more MPs is going to look better, all else equal, even as the ISO gets cranked up.
If you are new to this stuff, try downloading the free version of C1 for Fuji and use that for awhile - it would be a shame to dump the H2 because of LR's problems.
Waited months now and did a lot of reading. The X-H2S is for sale and I'll get the Zf with some select lenses. I do photography for fun and it's time for a great Nikon experience. I'll miss the XH battery life, custom options, and handling. Won't miss some other things. :)
Nice piece overall. Didn’t notice if it was mentioned elsewhere in the comments but the FM2 (and FE series) came out in black and chrome. The FM2T later had a titanium finish. With the Zfc, Nikon didn’t release a black finish at first and now markets one in Japan and in the USA (but only directly from Nikon in the USA.
Also all the dials (including the PASM dial and the option for one-third stop settings) are carryovers from the Df.
Not sure if Nikon is coming at Fuji with this, they’ve all but ceded the DX market to Fuji and Sony. They are shooting for the nostalgia market (like me, to a point) the hipsters with the multi color leatherette, and introducing some trial options.
They may offer a chrome/titanium finish eventually, like they did with the black. The Z6III may be thr Zf tech in the current body (complete with the ability to take a vertical grip).
As I said, overall a nice video.
Thanks! :)
Not a fan of the micro SD, but it’s better than nothing.
Also, I think Nikon does have a digital zoom. It should be called DX crop or DX zoom if I’m not mistaken. It’s been a while since I shot with Nikon.
I don’t really see it as a Fuji Killer. It doesn’t temp me the way the X-T2 did back in the day. I know Nikon full frame shooters that also shoot Fuji. These are the people I see buying this camera. I have no interest in this camera.
You were the only creator who had posted a video with the exact comparison I wanted to hear, and I found it very comprehensive and entertaining! You’ve earned a new sub :)
Well thank you! :)
Very good comparison but one big difference is about the noise on high ISO. With 24 Mpixs on full frame against 40 Mpixs on APS-C, you have far less noise with the Nikon. I am a long time user of Fuji and X-T5 and I own the Nikon Zf. The Nikon is used by low light (up to 14000 is fine). I use it with the 150-600 f5,6-6,5 Sigma. The low noise at ISO 14000 allows me to shoot at 1/500s for wildlife in poor light conditions. I am lucky to own both because the Zf is converging to Fuji with its dials but X-T5 remains lighter and with 40 Mpixs.
…you have far less noise with the Nikon 🫢
Odd that battery life would be the deal-killer. Nikon and Sony shooters have always carried three batteries to a wedding. They prefer the low light performance of the full frame and 24.5 MP is the sweet spot for low light performance and avoidance of diffraction at high apertures (and Nikon already has three 45.7 MP cameras). By the way, you misspoke and said the Fuji sensor is bigger, when you meant to say it has more megapixels. The micro SD card is being described as an internal memory like the Hasselblad and Leica's have. Most photographers will never remove it, just re-format it. It is there for backup or overflow, or if you forget your SD card.
Well, the Nikon users are all saying that the battery rating is bull anyway. :)
Fuji shooter here...to me the biggest reason I love fuji, and have stayed with the fuji system for 5 plus years is their workflow. I am not spending hours editing photos, the film sims and recipes etc allow me to get a great shot right out of camera. For Nikon and the Zf to take my hard earned cash, I need to know that what I can get out of camera competes, or is better than the Fuji system. It is more than being nostalgic about an 80's film camera (still have them, and shoot them regularly, so I don't need a digital FM2) and its more than physical dials - even though I love that F stop display on the top.
Your point about B&W mode I completely agree. I understand Leica has their monochrom cameras which are specifically B&W, but I don't know who 'needs' a B&W switch so quickly. On my Fuji, like you its mapped to a profile, and I press the q button, and go to my HP5 Sim and i am ready to go. It isn't as fast as a switch, but it isn't slow either.
That was also one of the things that made me switch to Fuji. I had the X100V and I noticed that so many times I wouldn't do anything to the file after the fact.
I love the look of the Zf and would love to purchase it, but the cost of full frame is a real issue I think. I have loved my Nikons, but those lenses can get expensive. Big reason why I stay with aps-c or super old dslrs lol Great video Booray! Really enjoyed you on the fujilove podcast the other week when you guys were talking about the upcoming summit
Thanks! We had a good time. :)
28SE and 40SE are affordable
@@frankfeng2701 100% they are. I was kind of meaning more of like the super zooms for wildlife, the 24-70 2.8. Which of course aren't necessities for an amateur but the crop sensor equivalents are way cheaper typically. But you are right about the 28 and 40. I had the 28 on a recent vacation and it was great. The more I find out about that zf, the more I need it lol
Why would anyone get a super zoom for the Zf body? It’s clearly marketed and designed to be used with small primes @@just_A_Hack Also it’s actual not that much more than the X-T5. And it seems to be built a lot better, if we are to believe the first reviews of it.
@@domtomas1178 I definitely think that it would be much better suited to the smaller primes, but if I'm buying a camera, i want to use it for everything. Just the same way I used a 70-300 on the x-pro 3. It may not be what is best suited for it, but that's the camera I had so it had to be lol. I'm really looking forward to some of the local camera places we have to get them in so I can get a closer look at the zf. Between it and the hopefully x-pro4, it's exciting times
Another great video, Booray. Man, you’re good!
I wish the zf at least had the z7ii sensor, but I actually like the idea of micro sd. A client I am meeting for a quick jpg shoot can stick their own micro sd into the extra slot and I can shoot raw to the main sd. Then we go our merry ways and don’t have to transfer files! I also have a bunch of them laying around anyways, so I save money on buying cfx
Problem of the psam "dial" on the zf. It makes the dials uninteresting you can spin the shutter dial as you want, when you are in apperture priority, by accident or you forgot to went to manual or s. Or even sadder, if you knock it to Auto and then wonder why no Dial does anything. It looks great and is surely a great camera but i dont think that it will kill Fuji.
You can also dial in the inbetween 1/3 stops on the front dial, if you choose a shutter speed on the fuji.
As a former Nikon guy, and now a Fuji guy, I’ll stick with Fuji. Although this looks like a great camera, I have invested too much in Fuji gear to make the switch back to Nikon. If Nikon released this camera 5 years ago, then it would be a different story and I would probably buy the Zf.
Same here. Love it, but years too late for me.
I picked up the X-T5 as my first foray into Fuji back in march and I’m wishing I’d known this was coming out before I bought it, because full frame, retro style & massive lens selection would probably have pulled me in over Fuji, since I don’t have a massive soft spot for the aperture rings
@@Northern00 What's missing for me in Zf is lack of A position on Iso and shutter speed dial. Additionally lack of lenses with aperture ring is disappointing.
I agree about the AUTO/PASM dial. I think there is one Fujifilm body out there with an instant AUTO lever right? Can't think of which one right now?
The XT30 has one I believe
@@BoorayPerryoh yeah, my old X-T10 had that! X-T20 also. Very handy.
Weight was a big reason for me choosing Fuji, especially as I shoot sports and use long zooms. Presumably Nikon will be heavier
R as it is full frame. I still have my Nikon D750 and lenses. I have Fuji xt2 and xt4 and xh2s.
The biggest highlight for me in the new NIKON Zf is the possibility to address several full manual lenses to the EXIF. This can only Olympus MFT at these days...
I've waited this long for the X Pro4, i can wait a little longer.
If Nikon were to develop a full lineup of “retro” designed bodies, yeah, it would be a definite threat, and I might be tempted to give it a shot (no pun intended). At the moment, I am more than a bit disappointed in Fuji’s offerings as of late, PASM, no Battery Booster for the X-T5, still mediocre AF, etc...Now if this is a one-off camera, not it likely will not be a Fuji killer. I guess we will see upon release how it sells, I believe Nikon tried this “retro” thing with the Df a few years back, it was a flop. At the end day I am happy to see Nikon coming out with this, it might be the fire under Fuji’s a** needed to get off their duffs, get serious, and up their game
Exactly, we want to see the X-Pro4 already Fuji…
I would love to see the manual of the Zf. Does it have auto ISO?
I would be shocked if it didn't.
@@BoorayPerry It better have it. I use it a lot when shooting birds with D850/810. Its what I call sneaky auto. I wonder how you set it. The ISO knob is not appealing to me. ASA/ISO was typically a sub dial on the shutter on the late 70's early 80's Nikons. I can live with out a separate knob
I use it all the time. :)@@JosephCaffrey
It really depends on what you shoot. ff lenses like the Nikon 26mm, 28mm, 40mm are not that large. Also most newer FF large lenses are not as heavy as the ones from years ago. This body is great for those smaller primes but ergonomics are sacrificed with this body design. I’m in the Tampa area too trying to decide if I’m keeping it
I don’t here many people talking about digital zoom on the Fujifilm but I took some pictures tonight at a baseball game using a manual focus lens and digital zoom/ sports mode.
I was hoping you would talk about lens lineup for the Nikon.
I had the FM2, so there’s that, but the display doesn’t work for me at all. If they change it I might be tempted as I am a bit annoyed with Fuji. Had 3 of their cameras and was contemplating upgrading to the xt5 but realized I am not so committed to the brand!
In this case, the full frame is a big plus, but the display kills it for me
I wanted to talk about the lenses but the video would have been too long. What about the display don't you like? Do you mean the flippy screen?
@@BoorayPerry I like the xt3 and xt5 screen. But I get that for video it might not be ideal
I'm a Fuji user and I really like this camera. It's beautiful and I'm tempted. Since Fuji seems to have abandoned the X-Pro line, if they don't announce an X-Pro4 soon, I might go for it. What bothers me is the lack of a joystick at the back, so in case you need to move the focus point you would need to use the touch LCD.This is a missing feature worth mentioning. I like to use the viewfinder and keep the LCD flipped shut on my Xpro3 while shooting, using the joystick to move the focus point. I guess this cannot be done on the Nikon zf sadly. Wish Nikon could also release some lenses with the aperture ring. The 40mm and 28mm SE don't have it.
That IS worth mentioning. Thanks for pointing it out.
Spot on, I’ve also been waiting for the X-Pro to arrive… but this Nikon camera has got my attention. If Fuji doesn’t give us an X-pro soon, I might just pick up a Zf and a Voigtlander lens to pair it with.
@@domtomas1178 ZF and Voigt will pair very nicely. I've found out I can use also the dpad to move the focus point, so now I'm even more tempted to make the preorder of the ZF kit with the 40mm f2 SE. I can even use the tiffen glimmerglass and black pro mist filters I have for my xf 35mm f1.4, since both lenses share same 52mm filter size, perfect! This camera looks simply gorgeous and well built plus it ticks many boxes for me... 8 stops ibis, lcd back panel that you can flip closed shut, retro charm and brass dials, great low light capabilities, great auto focus, great dinamic range, It's perfect for my use case, which is mostly documentary, reportage and travel. As for the lack of native aperture ring lenses, later on I might get a Voigt too or some other third party lens. Manual vintage lenses are a great choice too. In the meanwhile I can program the 40mm lens ring for aperture. Would be perfect for me if Nikon will release a retro 50mm , my favorite focal. But I would keep my Fuji X-Pro 3 alongside the Nikon for the moment and see how it goes.
Hey Booray, I'm so glad you made this video. I saw others popping up today on YT and this camera really caught my attention. I've shot with Nikon since 1980 and still have my FE film camera. And my go to has been a D500 for about 3-4 yrs. I bought the x100v in March for travel and have loved it... BUT, this retro Nikon looks great and would likely serve well as a travel camera. I've never owned a FF camera so I'm a bit naive as to what I may be missing. I'm going to watch and wait to see how well it sells and how Fuji does/does not respond. Besides I'm more interested at the moment to see the potential upgrade of the x100v in early '24. As always, great video.
Thanks! I don't think they will respond to be honest. I think they will stick with trying to have the best APS-C line and lenses available.
@@dennisjones5579 I think the folks in the comments probably have it right. Looks like a telephoto zoom with a wide aperture.
OK thanks
I vote for Fuji on this comparison, I have the Z5 from Nikon and I am satisfied with everything it does and it has two SD cards and a great battery life paired with the 24-200 Z lens it does all.
This camera looks amazing, but as a commercial photographer using Fuji, it couldn’t replace my XT5’s for pro work. Reasons: limit of 8000 shutter. This might not seem like a thing, but I do a lot of outdoor events, and sometimes shoot wide open, I use mech/elect shutter and I often need over 8000. Yes I could use an ND, or stop down, but they are two compromises I don’t have to worry about on my XT5. The other reason is the complete lack of custom buttons. Once my XT5 is set up, using custom buttons and the dials, I never have to remove my eye from the viewfinder, let alone go into the menu for anything. This is big when you’re shooting events as the moments happen right in front of you.
Those are my reasons, but if not for those two issues, I would buy this new Nikon as it’s so beautiful!
The Nikon has electronic shutter as well that is faster.
@@BoorayPerry I cannot find the specs but another TH-cam reviewer stated it also only goes to 8000? I think it was Jared Polin. Happy to be corrected, but that’s why I took issue with it
@@danfarmer_photo Mechanical is 1/8000, the same as the XT5. It also has an electronic shutter mode that goes faster.
@@BoorayPerry I think you’re missing my point. Firstly, yes I know the shutter on the XT5, and yes its electronic shutter goes faster to 180,000. But my point was: It was stated from another TH-cam review (Jared Polin) that the electronic shutter on the Nikon ZF also ONLY goes to 8000 no different to the mechanical shutter. He had issues at f1.2 in bright daylight and had to stop down. I was asking you as a reviewer if you know this to be true or not. You’ve said it’s faster, but you’re not confirming if it actually is with any numbers. I went to the Nikons website and it is awful for specs, so people like me, rely on people like you to understand the details. So either you or Jared are correct, and I would just like to understand which is which.
@@danfarmer_photo Okay, got it. You're right that I can't confirm it because I can't find it on the Nikon site either although I feel positive that I saw it somewhere when I was preparing this video. 🙂
As a long time Fuji User and FM2/FA Hobbyist here, the Nikon Zf got me excited like no other camera in a while.
Being full frame and having Z6III* specs in that retro form factor is compelling although I don't need most of it. For me, handling and shooting experience is more important than frames per second and fast continuous auto focus. And in that respect, I stay hesitant if Nikon, who did not commit to this form factor for the whole lineup (Fuji also diversified here with X-H, X-S and GFX) really went the whole way with this one. Is the Zf just an Z6 in different clothes, i. e. same menu system, huge dependency on changing settings on the back display etc? I think this is a question only further hands on testing can answer. I have no experience with the Zfc.
Maybe I could adapt to the full articulating screen since it also means, that I can hide the screen. Maybe I could adapt to PSAM again, although it means that sometimes confusingly the camera has different settings than the ones which are on the dials alone (but it's the same on the FA).
But one thing I really miss right away: A dedicated aperture ring on the lenses to make the manual control of the exposure triangle complete. The little display doesn't do the trick for me. Nikon did not even put an aperture ring on the two retro styled lenses! Why, Nikon? And all the other Nikkor Z lenses with their modern form factor deliver great image quality but also maybe just draw the whole camera back to being a Z6 in disguise, not a functional retro camera.
In respect of lenses I am also very curious on how good one can adapt legacy AIS glass on the Zf, functionally (focusing wide open, aperture read out) and in style (the adapter should not be the one thing not retro in between). Since - to be honest - I really would like to add a good digital FM2 body to my collection. One day. I am not in an hurry to get one now.
Definitely! Basic reason why, as an old Nikon addict and former film shooter, I currently own a Fuji. Lenses are the key. And if the matter is to shoot with 24-120 or 180-600, better wait for the Z6III.
Its not a Z6 in disguise, the Zf is a 25mp non stacked baby Z8 with a retro flavor
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 "Z6" was just a shorthand of the modern design Nikon mirrorless cameras. I also called it an Z6III* right in the beginning, if that's more agreeable to you.
@@MockUPie I also own a Z6. The Zf is a class of it's own catering to retro afficionados and content creator vloggers. If nikon decides to continue with the Z6 iteration line up, the Z6III should be at least 30mp.
Many thanks for the comprehensive unbiased comparison!
However I’m not sure why keeping an extra battery or two in your pocket would be a problem and a big reason of concern, if I were a professional photographer I would have extra batteries regardless of either camera
All the very best
From my experience shooting weddings, you always want to minimize anything that might cause you to stop shooting. There's always the fear that you will forget to change the battery and suddenly lose power at a crucial moment. It used to be I could shoot a whole wedding without changing the battery and that was a comfort to me. :)
The battery life isn’t a problem for me because I use the batteries that I used on my Nikon D500 those batteries are fantastic
I’ve got an x-t5, but just pre-ordered the Nikon with the 40mm lens. I’ll also pick up the 28mm at some point. Started out with Nikon about 10 years ago, but been with fuji since the x100f.
Same here, I ordered the 28mm from MPB while it’s still cheap
I bought the 28mm as a walkabout lens on my Z7. Fantastic little lightweight lens and in DX mode is 40mm😊
I just tested the 28mm against the 26mm pancake. For my money I’ll take the slightly larger size and lack of weather sealing for half the price and silent AF. @@christianpetersen1782
I'm a Leica M shooter and the Zf might allow me to switch back to Nikon. I carry my Leica everywhere, including the grocery store and because I enjoy only the smallest lenses possible with a full-frame sensor Leica was really my only choice. I would feel good about carrying the Zf everywhere and because I generally use a 28mm lens, Nikon has me covered with either the small 28mm or the tiny 26mm! While the magic I feel when I hold my Leica is causing me to stall on this, the technologies in the Zf are impossible to resist, especially in this form-factor. On batteries, an inspiring camera is enough for me to forget about poor battery performance.
You'll love the 😊m to z adapter that brings autofocus to manual m lenses
I own the black Zfc and the battery is way better than stated. The Zf has a bigger battery than the Zfc, so I expect even better performance. If you get the Zf, get also the 26 mm pancake. This lens is simply amazing and so small, you barely notice it. I'm also bringing my Zfc everywhere.
larger sensor and lower MP = better low light performance. Superior AF is a big win for Nikon.
As a photo hobbyist, I am certainly excited about Nikon Zf and would buy it. However, if I were professional photographer, I would rather prefer to have something else for work, like Nikon Z7 II, Nikon Z8, Nikon Z9 or even Nikon D850. However, even in that case, Nikon Zf would be ideal fit for the personal off the work use.
Nikon’s launch pattern seems to be to launch the taster cameras first followed up with more interesting versions of similar camera. Hopefully the silver version 24 mpx next then the 40mpx in both colours.
I am getting it. Love the all black. battery not an issue as I already have one for my Z7 so just carry it for backup
As a hobbyist I am excited about this camera. I am in the market for a new camera, I am fed up with the lack of Fujifilm availability & silly used priced mark due to TH-cam hype. I love the 40mm lens/field of view plus it’s full frame.
For a guy who started photography back in the 60’s with s lot of old F Mount glass this is a camera I have been waiting on.
I use a lot of this glass on my Fujifilm camera but I want a full frame with the manual dials to get the benefits of all my old glass on a full frame.
However I love my Fujifilm camera and it’s not going anywhere.
I love the Zf design and FF sensor but I don’t like the lack of joy stick, lower res sensor, flippy screen, EVF capped at 60fps, weird micro SD for second slot, no film sims, and so on. Fuji also has a big stable of lenses that fit in the retro aesthetic.
One small correction. The Nikon ZF can shoot video in 4k 60fps. However, it is with an APSC crop. (Same as the Sony A7IV) So, as far as 4k frame rates it is equal to the Fujifilm X-T5. I do believe the X-T5 has options for higher video bit rates that the ZF, but I will have to confirm when mine arrives. I own the X-T5 and am curious to test it next to the X-T5.
yes the xt5 has a higher bitrate, because it also shoots in all-i, but on a TV and even less on TH-cam, it will not be noticeable. Also the xt5 crop slightly also in 4k60
Trouble is the abrupt exposure changes on the Fuji, that kills it no matter how many options and specs they add.
How is the battery life so bad on the Zf? I can easily get 2,000+ shots on my Z6II and it uses the same battery and sensor. Is the new sensor really that power hungry?
The official Nikon specs say it is but if you read the comments you will see many people saying that is bogus. :)
The Nikon certainly looks the part but the pictures are the same as any other Nikon. Fuji have the customisable film simulations which the Nikon does not. The unique look that Fuji brings to the JPEGs is what sets Fuji apart from other camera manufacturers.
Film simulation is good if you shoot in jpeg only…
I shoot with fuji.
Surprisingly when i did blind test with sony canon nikon , i choose nikon on top. Hmmm
Hmmm . . . I’m not sure I agree with you. I shoot both Nikon and Fuji and I actually really, really like the Monochrome picture control from my Z7ii, especially after I tweaked it a bit to look a little more like the new Dramatic Tone Monochrome in the Zf. I love Fuji film sims but one of the reasons that I keep shooting with Nikon is because of the adjustments I can make to the picture controls to get me sumptuous SOOC images just like on my Fuji.
I own Z6II and very happy with it ever since. It has everything I want it. I Don't Need to change every time a New Camera release. That's stupid! I Don't have the camera Syndrome think that every new camera is Better than Old ones. The Zf look nice like to my F3 but I won't go Crazy and Buy it like most will...
Still have my FM2 and grew up with those old film Nikons. Love the nostalgia of the Zf but it also appears pretty capable. Unfortunately the lenses that look like the old ones are few and far between. 40mm is an odd focal length and most of the Z lenses look weird on it. Let's face it though the full frame mirrorless cameras aren't much bigger than the X-T5 and they're are trying to make some smaller lenses. Not sure where Fuji is headed...flagship X-Pro line appears to be dead and the FF mirrorless bodies are showing up on the used market at reasonable prices. The price advantage of Fuji isn't what it used to be not to mention the supply issues. Curious what your thoughts on where Fuji is headed strategically with the X series..
Those are great points. I think Fuji begins with the idea that no one should make a better line of APS-C bodies and lenses than they do. After that, who knows. They are known for their retro style but how long will that be a thing if it becomes the norm in the industry?
As an X-T5 shooter, even I believe Nikon did really well, I will not switch to a Zf.
the battery size probably leveraged the micro sd card into this build, also their battery life estimates are modest at best, really low in reality if you are using the viewfinder and not chimping the screen all day. The smaller megapixel sensor will always have lower noise levels and this is calculated through pixel density, commanding a much better lowlight performance.
The CIPA ratings are 100% false. CIPA said the Nikon Z9 shots are 700 shots, but people are getting over 5,000 shots WITH 8K video shooting. Zf does do 4K/60 at a crop.
I definitely know that now because all the Nikon shooters have been telling me in the comments. 😀📷
I am a Fuji shooter too... Have XH1 & xs20 ...
But now I am considering to exchange my entire canon 7d kit for Nikon ZF. It is difficult to say which brand is better, how ever there are some creative features in Nikon which Fuji is not providing,, especially Raw file in double exposure mode. 2ndly yes for Nikon's low light performance is ofcourse better, exposure smoothing while shooting timelaps is there in Nikon.
Ofcourse Fuji leads in film simulation, handling, etc.
But the biggest advantage of Nikon z mount is that we can adapt Sony FE mount lenses with an adaptor... And there are plenty of 3rd party budget lens available for Sony FE mount
Digital came in like a storm about 20 years ago and the first thing I didn’t like about it was the menus and lack of dials. Not sure why it has taken so long for dials to come back. Kudos to Fuji and Nikon.
Nikon certainly DID do a silver version of the FM2. Quick edit: My new Zf arrived today so I will be getting to grips with it as soon as possible.
I used to be a Nikon film camera user and then switched to Fuji because I hate the PASM dials. Fuji, however, has been frustrating me to no end with their crappy autofocus and low-light performance (so many soft shots!). I am ordering the Zf and if I don't see as much grain and blurred images, I am sold.
Problem with the XT-5 is there are many Fuji lenses that can not resolve with its sensor. The Nikon will excel over the XT-5 in low light and AF.I'd rather swap a battery than miss because of AF another win for Nikon. I'd take the ZF with the 26mm pancake lens over the X100V any day of the week. Faster AF incredible IBIS the ability to change lenses better EVF better rear screen.
Micro SD card issue- I like to save my raw images on one card and jpegs on the other. I’ve heard of photographers storing images on one card and video on the other.
I’m glad you mentioned the lack of a silver finish option on the zf . That would be the dealbreaker for me. I like the silver finish over the black finish. I seriously hope nikon makes a silver option . Doesn’t make any sense that they would exclude the silver finish in the new zf camera. I’ve been waiting for this camera but i won’t be buying it if there is no silver option available . Not interested in the black style body. It would be a huge mistake on Nikon’s part to not offer a silver version as there are a lot of us out there that will not buy this camera if black is the only option offered.
The silver edition will come.
@@_cyclofob8990 No plans to release a silver edition has been officially announced or confirmed by nikon at this time. However, i hope they do release a silver version sooner than later.
This isn't that new for Nikon. They made a Nikon DF years ago. A full frame retro styled camera. It came in silver and black.The silver honestly brought so much attention. Everywhere I'd go people would ask about it. I think black is the way to go.
It will absolutely eat into Fuji sales. The last thing I need is another camera, but man, this one looks sooooo cool!!
What about body size, weight,? Lenses-size & weight?
People keep saying that, but it’s not actually so simple. My Fuji 23mm 1.4 LM lens is as large and heavy as many 35mm f2 full frame lenses. And if I’d want to get the same background separation as my RF 24-70 2.8 lens, it would need to be a 17-55 f2.0… which would be just as large and heavy if it existed.
Wow that PASM leaver - Fuji should shamelessly steal that and stick it on the XT6, or an XH3S (after they dump the useless top screen and bring back the dials)! That is all they really needed for the new XH bodies. IDK if things changed with the XT5, but on my XT3, I've always been able to select a shutter speed on the dial (in full stop increments), and then use the front dial to move it up or down 2/3rds. Fast and easy. At some point, you just use the front dial to change shutter manually, and use the dial when you need a quick manual override (like when, say, wanting to jump back to a flash sync speed). I do this all the time, actually - I might run auto ISO outdoors, if I have the light, and/or auto shutter. But when I'm back inside, I set the ISO with the dial and go back to flash shooting with a twist of a dial or a flick of the command wheel.
Nikon's solution seems worse to me.
Also I would not pick either camera. With no battery grip, I can't slap my zooms and a flash on an XT5 and comfortably shoot an event, or sports, or anything really, comfortably. Unless, of course, I can do it with any of Fuji's amazing little prime lenses (but, then again, the flash on top will still be a horrible ergonomic / balance problem). To me that is a deal breaker. I am also on the fence with regards to the XT5's poor rolling shutter performance. The XT3 is good enough, most of the time, but the 40mp sensor got a lot worse. That's a big hit to sport/action/wildlife shooting, and there is that shallow buffer.
The Nikon is cool, I guess, but there are, what? Two lenses that "fit" the camera? It has the same major ergonomic flaws that the XT5 has if you want to use it as a professional tool, or invest in the very excellent larger lenses either company makes. No aperture rings?
Nikon is clearly ready to gain some market share back, and they are coming for everyone. z8, z6/7iii have my attention. The 1.8 primes are fine by me, and they're cheaper than Fuji primes. The zooms are somewhat affordable. Yup, I don't know where I'd go if not Nikon FF for an "upgrade" (I'm too poor for Canon, and too smart for Sony). Oh, yes I do - Fuji GFX!
I bet we see a Silver finish later and it would be very easy for Nikon to put their 45mp sensor in. I like the green camera and I would brass the Dials up. And for me the 24mp sensor being so good at higher iso is perfect.
Zf ll with a 40 mpx and DX mode and in silver 👍.
I started photography with a Nikon FE, bought new in 1982. Shot that until my first dSLR in 2007. Didn't like digital at the time, so went back to Nikon with a F100. Since I'd never shot wide angle, I bought a 24mm f2.8 Nikkor lens with the the F100. I used that combo exclusively for about a year and licensed my first photo with it, shot on Kodak Tri-X 400 pushed to ISO 1200.
Eventually, I ended up with a d7100 and played a bit with the Z 7. My knock on the Z systems is that, 4 years after ts introduction, there's still not a great lens line-up, e.g., no native version of the 24mm f2.8. The 50mm 1.8 Z-mount is a good lens, but it's rather large and expensive for a Nifty Fifty. The Z adapter works well, but that's adding weight and bulk to the system. Other than battery life, I'm happy with my X-T3 and probably will add the 16mm f1.4 to my kit soon. I also enjoyed the x100S I had for a while and am looking forward to adding the new version to my bag.
I feel the same way about adapters.
The Nikon Zf is a lot larger/heavier than I had expected...
If the Nikon Z8 would have come out earlier, I might have considered this for my 2nd body use case. I required at least one of my cameras to possess a STACKED SENSOR for fast live action photo shooting and very good rolling shutter performance for video work.
Z8 got it wrong because of chunky body. The Z9 fits that need. Put stacked technology in a ZFpro and here is the perfect full frame stills first camera.
I was a Nikon shooter like so many Fuji converts. D2x and all their cameras were APS-C. I shot D100, D200, D300(tech was changing rapidly) Then Nikon almost completely abandoned those cameras, while constantly encouraging users to switch to full frame. I think Nikon sees Fuji as silly consumer cameras and they are competing with that idea, thus the pretty colors. They have made pretty cameras for the style conscious market before and always failed after a few years.
The Zf is cool but way too heavy compared to the X-T5 specially if you add the grip. If the Zf was 650grm with a grip already molded in the body then I would have considered it
Battery life, flippy screen, PASM dial, micro SD, etc. I don't have a problem with AF on the Fuji XT5, eye detect works so does tracking, so Sony works a very small fraction of 1 second quicker. One big factor is repair costs should you drop or break your camera. I dropped my XT3, about 5ft on to the pavement 18 months back, the repair cost £180 which includes P+P and insurance there and back. They replaced> the top and bottom plate, the rear screen, cleaned or replaced the sensor. About the same time a friend broke a dial on his Nikon 750, he had to pay the P+P + Insurance both ways and that was added to the repair. The repair cost £400. The last Nikon I had was the 600, bought new, within two weeks it had to go back to Nikon because of the shutter (fault) hence the 610. They knew that shutter would screw up but they kept selling them. I changed to Fuji about a year later. As for Nikon, they can stick their cameras where the monkey sticks its nuts.
If anyone should make a retro camera, it's Nikon. Looks like the Nikon cameras I used when I started doing photography. But, there are only two retro looking lenses. If there were more retro lenses I would consider buying the camera. And I wish the lenses had aperture rings. Maybe more will be coming in the future. And I'm not a fan of micro sd cards.
Check out the Voigtlander lenses for Z-mount.
Really great video, I think it would be a good idea to get a pop filter for your microphone.
I actually have one but it's too big on screen. :)