hay fields really depend on the time, now they're huge, in the middle ages the whole countryside was divided in small patches that could be worked by hand by a couple of people
I said it before and I will say it again you are the Boss Ross of models (Easy to follow and easy going ) ...Love your channel man have learned a ton and a lot of this will go onto my model Rail Road and my war game table
Love your videos. Clear and concise and generally not too difficult even for novices. I'm looking at making some terrain that can easily be transported to and from the game store for historical gaming and your videos have been invaluable with ideas.
Great tutorial. I appreciate the way you demonstrate the method but don't make the viewers watch as you do each step to every piece. Jumping ahead to show the result and starting the next phase. Love it. Wish more tutorials were like yours.
Nice haystack method here. I made haystacks for our club by carving 2" thick polystrene insulation board, but this method gives a really sharp final product. Never thought to use the door mats like this!
I've seen the fields before, as well as round bales made out of clear tape and chopped twine. But I did like the hay "mounds" for a lack of a better term. Never thought about using the coconut hair. Good idea.
i think making a barn outta popsicle sticks and laying htat type of doormat down would make a great piece of rural farm terrain, even more so would be washing the planks in a dark brown type of colour
I honestly don't understand how you only have 33k Subs. We need to get you to at least 100k for the effort and helpful information you provide. Do you know any web/graphical designers for your pages and possibly video's. Also, painting tutorials will give you a nice boost, especially with models. Keep up the great work.
One day I'll get there mate. I'll probably not go down the route of model tutorials, I'm a terrain guy, I'm not good enough for model tutorials and it's not what I want my channel to be about bud
I've never heard of using doormats to make haystacks. I've seen them used for thatched cottages for garden ornaments but not for this sort of modelling. Must give that a go for one of my layouts.
GW came out a while ago with a terrain tutorial book and one of the suggestions they made for hayfields was to not glue the base and hay field so that you could remove them and give it the impression that it's been trampled over when units walk over them.
They look great Mel. Well I looked through all the comments and not one person mentions you quoting Tommy Cooper all the way through, lol. "Just like that...."
Looks good! I've seen small things of corn or wheat (or just long grass) made up for model trains & wondering if using a few of those mini plants scattered on these patches would help visually them look more like a field of crops or hay.
My background is in newspaper/magazine layout and design. Back in the day when large qualities of spray adhesive were being used (Spray Mount etc) there were numerous warnings that all such spray adhesives are carcinogenic (cancer-causing) if inhaled. Inhaled spray adhesive is in the same category as inhaling MDF dust or any spray paint. As well as being a fine aerosol it also contains some nasty hydro carbons. The industry warnings, at the time, were it should not be used indoors without strict precautions. The industrial standard was a 'glue booth' which sucked air away from the work piece and absorbed the glue/air into a replaceable filter. Other suggestions are do it outside or use a personal mask but only use masks in an exclusion area where others cannot breathe it. Regard it as a 'persistent agent' in still air. Well ventilate and/or do it outside.
I enjoy the video lessons. Many of the things you do now with modern materials I was doing in 1/200 or 15mm scale with cardboard and plaster 25 years ago. And... before you ask… I 'set' the thick cardboard with polyurethane varnish to make it hard and waterproof before I used a fine sand, plaster and PVA mix on it. No warping! Keep on trucking and work safe! :)
I would have drybrushed the bases earth tones to get a good compacted dirt look, then rather than using flock, I would have more finely chopped the left over coconut fibers and sprinkled that on like flock. When you look at hay fields after they've been bailed, it's usually more dirt that green grass. Of course, for edges you could sprinkle a bit of green flock to match them to the rest of the table, but to me, hay would have looked better on more bare dirt.
I reckon you could use steel wool for the haystacks as well, can't you? I sprayed the wool on my test tree with a few different coats and it made the fibres noticeably thicker, so it can be quite close to what you get out of the coconut. Maybe a little less in scale. I think there's also something called wood wool used in decorating (and packaging back in the day) that could be useful, but honestly I haven't touched any for ages. Nearly all my at home clothes are hobby soiled, mate. Honestly, I don't care much. It's just easier to wipe something on your shirt if you need it to be done quickly than doing yoga exersises to reach a bloody towel around the corner. It also creates nice patterns, especially with the occasional paint accident. I'm more worried something's sticking in my beard. You know, I've seen guys wearing a tie under an apron at the bench. That can't be normal.
Best line of the whole video: "... Left over from when I savaged a 4Ground tree"... You do realize there are folks out there that didnt see that one right? Right now somebody out there is trying to figure out why the heck someone would "savage" a tree. lol!
great video. but would it not have looked more 'correct' unflocked as it would should that the hay had been recently reaped. posible just fix some loose hay on the ground
I use natural material i heat my soil and dirt at 350 for an hour and i preserve branches off bushes and dry out fresh grass clippings and mulched leaves and red sand and all natural that I've gotten even better results than store bought foliage.
i love baseball diamond red sand, i havethe store bought andhonestly like naturalbetter I bake my dirt for 1-2 hpurs at 350 degrees F. I use natural bush branhes lawn and leave trimmings hay, thorn trees, Ive became a huge fan and watched so many of your videos and have learned so much. my friend makes tiny dioramas for his tank models but i just cuts 8, 20'x18" plywood boards i have surgery in 1 day and a wake up. ill be in bed for 2 weeks and no physical activity for 90 days after that, ive made alot of pva i have modge podge my glues my material foam board my foilage and pigments hot glue gun and so much more. To much to name lol i have 2 deasks by my hospital bed in my room so i can easily access everything. if its ok my first board i will make a video of the finished product, ive bought and got so much material for 3 and half months its crazy. Ill comment link to video if you could give me a few pointers on the first board i make, they will not be for war games just for my projects i have a reallly creative mind and love how you also use your imagination alot as well as i do to get what you need done. i even have 2 bags 200 soldiers at a 1:35 scale. my first scene will be an irag type setting, if you could give me a few pointers ill send link to my first board finished video in a week or so, i also have came to love a product in the USA called ProFrom Joint Coumpund you can mix and water it down and i love how you taught about making the rock walls and terrain with the aluminum foil technique 50lbs of proformjoint compound is only like $12 U.S. dollars per 50 lbs which is alot if you think about it and it stays wet if you dropabout a half cupof water to bucket before put lid on will last like over a year ive read on blogs. thanls a lot for responding
Hello. Congratulations on your class of great quality. I love miniature toy soldiers and I'm learning how to make dioramas. A tip: put subtitle of his speech in the video and a description of the materials list to be used, even in English. This helps me - and others - to understand your description. My understanding of English is not so good as to be able to understand everything you say, you are too fast ... Congratulations! Sidnei, from Brazil.
Hey Mel, what would have happened if you had drybrushed the hayfields quite a bit with a yellow, or some ochre or something? I'm asking 'cause I think hay is a bit more yellow than coconut fiber, what do you think? Thanks anyway, quite a tutorial mate. Subbed.
you can get it off amazon, its even on Prime. I think Michaels sells it or something like it too www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=das+air+dry+clay&sprefix=das+air+%2Caps%2C142
Das is available here in the US, I see it at Michael's and Hobby Lobby all the time but for this type of usage (not expecting it to hold good detail) you can use crayola air drying clay which can be found pretty much everywhere
But hay, until it is cut, is GREEN, not brown. It turns brownish as it dries in the sun, after it's mown. These look more like ripe fields of small grains.
just saying that your TH-cam photo looks like a taco and a tenderloin sandwich. actually I seen a video I think it's called making realistic hay bales. they're round you'll find the video. have a great day Mel
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hay fields really depend on the time, now they're huge, in the middle ages the whole countryside was divided in small patches that could be worked by hand by a couple of people
The man. The myth. The legend.
I said it before and I will say it again you are the Boss Ross of models (Easy to follow and easy going ) ...Love your channel man have learned a ton and a lot of this will go onto my model Rail Road and my war game table
High praise indeed, thank you :-D
Love your videos. Clear and concise and generally not too difficult even for novices. I'm looking at making some terrain that can easily be transported to and from the game store for historical gaming and your videos have been invaluable with ideas.
Great tutorial. I appreciate the way you demonstrate the method but don't make the viewers watch as you do each step to every piece. Jumping ahead to show the result and starting the next phase. Love it. Wish more tutorials were like yours.
Love the hay stacks!
Nice haystack method here. I made haystacks for our club by carving 2" thick polystrene insulation board, but this method gives a really sharp final product. Never thought to use the door mats like this!
Hope it helps you buddy!
Youre a legend for these tutorials
Thanks for the Great info. Nice looking terrain. :)
You should make another hayfield with crop circles in it. Just to mess with your opponents.
That’s what my 16 year old said when I bought a new mat for terrain
"They go on forever"
*slaps doormat on table*
lol Loved the video but just had that image in my head when you said that.
I've seen the fields before, as well as round bales made out of clear tape and chopped twine. But I did like the hay "mounds" for a lack of a better term. Never thought about using the coconut hair. Good idea.
just found your channel excellent for railway modeling keep up the good work
Brilliant video Mel, love the techniques and tips. Looking forward to seeing how you approach walls & fences.
i am now on the hunt for coconut fibres, looks like a trip to a florist for me.
i think making a barn outta popsicle sticks and laying htat type of doormat down would make a great piece of rural farm terrain, even more so would be washing the planks in a dark brown type of colour
it's on the list mate
Awesome Video as always
Yet again another great tutorial!! Very well done!!!
Thx so much Mel. I learn alot from you.
It's what I'm here for!
I cannot wait to try this! Thanks Mel!
Great tutorial Mel. That was very interesting and so useful too, many thanks mate.
Joe
Great vid, I have been trying to decide how to build a few hay fields for my bolt action games. Thank you for this.
I honestly don't understand how you only have 33k Subs. We need to get you to at least 100k for the effort and helpful information you provide. Do you know any web/graphical designers for your pages and possibly video's. Also, painting tutorials will give you a nice boost, especially with models. Keep up the great work.
One day I'll get there mate. I'll probably not go down the route of model tutorials, I'm a terrain guy, I'm not good enough for model tutorials and it's not what I want my channel to be about bud
TheTerrainTutor what scale do you think this would be?
Tristan Bissell
No idea matey
We’re there now! 125k baby!
I've never heard of using doormats to make haystacks. I've seen them used for thatched cottages for garden ornaments but not for this sort of modelling. Must give that a go for one of my layouts.
Play some ww2 skirmish games, it's every gamer's instant bocage!
Good stuff Mel. I'm really enjoying the videos.
Very nice work, some great ideas there!
4 years after I first watched this I finally have some cheap coco fibre mats to work with!
Brilliant, thank you
You're very welcome!
Great tutorial Mel,I just found coconut fiber at the dollar store,I'll put it to good use.
that is fucking bloody brilliant.
GW came out a while ago with a terrain tutorial book and one of the suggestions they made for hayfields was to not glue the base and hay field so that you could remove them and give it the impression that it's been trampled over when units walk over them.
I really really like the Hay stacks ... DAMN ... there a cool and a great idea
many thanks for showing and keep up the good work. ;-)
I've watched several of your videos now and I have to say, Brilliant job! Never disappointed and I enjoy your British humor... 👍🏻😁 #weamericans Lol
Glad you liked it mate
Great work bro.
Look great. Inspired to make some myself.
shopping list made.....
nice one Mel ;)
Good stuff Mel
They look great Mel. Well I looked through all the comments and not one person mentions you quoting Tommy Cooper all the way through, lol. "Just like that...."
Looks good! I've seen small things of corn or wheat (or just long grass) made up for model trains & wondering if using a few of those mini plants scattered on these patches would help visually them look more like a field of crops or hay.
This is brilliant very informative .
Nice job. Very useful..
Brilliant, thanks mel
Super cool for bolt action or something...
I love these!
Great stuff and easy to follow instructions. This looks like it works really for 25/28mm. Do you have any tips / tutorials for smaller scales?
My background is in newspaper/magazine layout and design. Back in the day when large qualities of spray adhesive were being used (Spray Mount etc) there were numerous warnings that all such spray adhesives are carcinogenic (cancer-causing) if inhaled. Inhaled spray adhesive is in the same category as inhaling MDF dust or any spray paint. As well as being a fine aerosol it also contains some nasty hydro carbons. The industry warnings, at the time, were it should not be used indoors without strict precautions. The industrial standard was a 'glue booth' which sucked air away from the work piece and absorbed the glue/air into a replaceable filter. Other suggestions are do it outside or use a personal mask but only use masks in an exclusion area where others cannot breathe it. Regard it as a 'persistent agent' in still air. Well ventilate and/or do it outside.
These are glue booths:
www.graphicsdirect.co.uk/spraybooths/simair/simair-spray-booths.html
It IS a problem! Good luck and stay safe! :)
That's for the heads up mate
I enjoy the video lessons. Many of the things you do now with modern materials I was doing in 1/200 or 15mm scale with cardboard and plaster 25 years ago. And... before you ask… I 'set' the thick cardboard with polyurethane varnish to make it hard and waterproof before I used a fine sand, plaster and PVA mix on it. No warping!
Keep on trucking and work safe! :)
Hay Mel can ya do an extra bonus vid on how you would go about doing a crop circle style field thanks nice vid fella
Now that'd be interesting lol
I would recommend thinning it out to give a more realistic look. You can also add a light sprinkling of a yellow flock to replicate the ears of corn.
Realy nice!
Well done. Do you have any winter scenes or terrian features.
Snowy playlist bud
I would have drybrushed the bases earth tones to get a good compacted dirt look, then rather than using flock, I would have more finely chopped the left over coconut fibers and sprinkled that on like flock. When you look at hay fields after they've been bailed, it's usually more dirt that green grass. Of course, for edges you could sprinkle a bit of green flock to match them to the rest of the table, but to me, hay would have looked better on more bare dirt.
Reckon it'd look good like that mate, post you pics to the terrainiacs group :-)
Unfortunately I have neither the space nor the funds to work on terrain anymore. Else I'd be working on a lot of projects >.
TheDeinonychus
Shame bud
Please tell me what green material is used?.. or How to make it
Thumbnail looks like a cheese quesadilla lol.
Can you make an imitation crop circle? Like they did awhile back?
I reckon you could use steel wool for the haystacks as well, can't you? I sprayed the wool on my test tree with a few different coats and it made the fibres noticeably thicker, so it can be quite close to what you get out of the coconut. Maybe a little less in scale. I think there's also something called wood wool used in decorating (and packaging back in the day) that could be useful, but honestly I haven't touched any for ages.
Nearly all my at home clothes are hobby soiled, mate. Honestly, I don't care much. It's just easier to wipe something on your shirt if you need it to be done quickly than doing yoga exersises to reach a bloody towel around the corner. It also creates nice patterns, especially with the occasional paint accident. I'm more worried something's sticking in my beard. You know, I've seen guys wearing a tie under an apron at the bench. That can't be normal.
I will never wear a tie in the studio!
Not sure on the wire wool, give it a go and let me know how you get on mate!
Best line of the whole video: "... Left over from when I savaged a 4Ground tree"... You do realize there are folks out there that didnt see that one right? Right now somebody out there is trying to figure out why the heck someone would "savage" a tree. lol!
We have our ways .....
Hi, can you help me? My english is not good. What he use for the straw pile?
great video. but would it not have looked more 'correct' unflocked as it would should that the hay had been recently reaped. posible just fix some loose hay on the ground
Fresh sprouts mate ;-)
I use natural material i heat my soil and dirt at 350 for an hour and i preserve branches off bushes and dry out fresh grass clippings and mulched leaves and red sand and all natural that I've gotten even better results than store bought foliage.
All the soil around here is clay type so that's a no-no for me bud
i love baseball diamond red sand, i havethe store bought andhonestly like naturalbetter I bake my dirt for 1-2 hpurs at 350 degrees F. I use natural bush branhes lawn and leave trimmings hay, thorn trees, Ive became a huge fan and watched so many of your videos and have learned so much. my friend makes tiny dioramas for his tank models but i just cuts 8, 20'x18" plywood boards i have surgery in 1 day and a wake up. ill be in bed for 2 weeks and no physical activity for 90 days after that, ive made alot of pva i have modge podge my glues my material foam board my foilage and pigments hot glue gun and so much more. To much to name lol i have 2 deasks by my hospital bed in my room so i can easily access everything. if its ok my first board i will make a video of the finished product, ive bought and got so much material for 3 and half months its crazy. Ill comment link to video if you could give me a few pointers on the first board i make, they will not be for war games just for my projects i have a reallly creative mind and love how you also use your imagination alot as well as i do to get what you need done. i even have 2 bags 200 soldiers at a 1:35 scale. my first scene will be an irag type setting, if you could give me a few pointers ill send link to my first board finished video in a week or so, i also have came to love a product in the USA called ProFrom Joint Coumpund you can mix and water it down and i love how you taught about making the rock walls and terrain with the aluminum foil technique 50lbs of proformjoint compound is only like $12 U.S. dollars per 50 lbs which is alot if you think about it and it stays wet if you dropabout a half cupof water to bucket before put lid on will last like over a year ive read on blogs. thanls a lot for responding
Not really sold on the Tacos, but great video as usual
Thank;s .
Could you please make thatched roofs??
We'll cover it as some point mate
These are great! Reckon this would work using fake grass for. Jungles?
Yep ;-)
"Said the actress to the bishop..."
Nice.
The image for this video makes it look like you are making Tacos 🙂
What is the bases material and where would I find it online? I never quite catch what you say when you mention it :)
Expanded PVC foamboard
Thanks champ! You're an inspiration.
Hello. Congratulations on your class of great quality. I love miniature toy soldiers and I'm learning how to make dioramas. A tip: put subtitle of his speech in the video and a description of the materials list to be used, even in English. This helps me - and others - to understand your description. My understanding of English is not so good as to be able to understand everything you say, you are too fast ... Congratulations! Sidnei, from Brazil.
Oh, nice idea mate!
Here in the states they roll hay into big round tubes as high as they are wide. Post harvest
Wrap green twine around and you got a hit mate.
We have the same here but that's modern industrial methods, guessing we have similar machinery
Hey Mel, what would have happened if you had drybrushed the hayfields quite a bit with a yellow, or some ochre or something? I'm asking 'cause I think hay is a bit more yellow than coconut fiber, what do you think? Thanks anyway, quite a tutorial mate. Subbed.
In NC we have hay bales in circles kind of the candy rolos. Show how to make some hay like that.
got a pic?
TheTerrainTutor www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&biw=1024&bih=672&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=mdbCWdvtHKC9gAa38LG4BA&q=hay&oq=hay&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3..0i67k1l5.11213.26804.0.29732.20.19.0.0.0.0.350.4877.0j3j12j4.19.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-img..14.6.1366...41j30i10k1.0.eETL3CUP5gU
What the name of type of door mat is used?
Coconut fibre
hay now hay now, don't dream it's over
what is the pvc you use for the base?
Expanded PVC foamboard mate
looked better before you applied the grass flock, especially because the earth tone was so nice. Imo grass flock always looks terrible though.
After mentioning hay bales so much, you should make a video on making them.
I will at some point
I think he meant hay stacks, he gets a little flustered at times. Bales would be cool though.
What product in the US would be the equivalent to Das air dry clay?
you can get it off amazon, its even on Prime. I think Michaels sells it or something like it too
www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=das+air+dry+clay&sprefix=das+air+%2Caps%2C142
Das is available here in the US, I see it at Michael's and Hobby Lobby all the time but for this type of usage (not expecting it to hold good detail) you can use crayola air drying clay which can be found pretty much everywhere
Thanks!
said the actress to the bishop. HA!
What was the scatter you used ?
Javis mate
That’s a bloody chicken burger🤣
I can't seem to find any plain or cheap door mats, any ideas?
Amazon mate
But hay, until it is cut, is GREEN, not brown. It turns brownish as it dries in the sun, after it's mown. These look more like ripe fields of small grains.
well like em. To day most weat fields go 100s miles say like ones hare IN U.S.A .That go to canada will see more .
err... wot?
well TROLL whar do think your food come from or cant read or did boter one thing did not do TROLL
tard
W T F ? TFULL?
Crack on! Great stuff!
ya
where do you buy evc board in the USA?
Search for Foamex mate
Said the actress to the bishop lol
Looks more like a taco and a tenderloin
I keep hearing that taco comment, must check them out
just saying that your TH-cam photo looks like a taco and a tenderloin sandwich. actually I seen a video I think it's called making realistic hay bales. they're round you'll find the video. have a great day Mel
Ah, they're modern hay bales bud ;-)
Yeah?
👍👌👍👌
My fat ass thought the thumbnail was chicken
That's new, it's normally 'I thought this was a taco' :-D
Baaby XD
It's... straw. Not hay. :)
Great tutes, but yeah. Straw. Hay is green.
Looks like chicken patties.
ya?
Nice job 👍.
You talk to much 👎.
Nice job. Very useful..