This will be a much better vehicle than the old NV200!! Let’s see how it performs on a run to somewhere like Hadstock, which is just outside Saffron Walden!!
Great video , with the Acenta model, the screen configuration remains the same. However, it's important to note that the acenta version doesn't come with its own integrated GPS navigation system. Instead, you can make use of CarPlay or Android Auto to utilize the screen as a satellite navigation tool. This feature allows you to seamlessly connect your mobile device and access navigation functions through the vehicle's display. - Love that digital drivers display in the Tekna+ ❤
It's certainly much stiffer suspension that the ZE33, but I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable. I came away thinking that I would be quite happy to have one as my car. It was very nice and far more refined that a van traditionally would be.
Im tossing up between kangoo maxi or env200 40kw whats your thoughts on them? The new townstar does look nice but just not in my price range yet. Im replacing my old leaf 30
The Kangoo is a more comfortable with better suspension and seats. But has AC charging only so no good for long distance trips. If you charge from home and don't do long distances, then I'd much prefer the Kangoo.
Well Mercedes have already announced this will be a EQT and a T-Class and I've seen pics of this vehicle as passenger cars in other markets, so it might come here. Its all early days.
I know there are specific use cases but I don't understand the lack of DC charging. Unless you are never going to sell it, I can't see the logic of not having it. It must affect the resale value.
If a company buys a load they will have a 3-phase AC at work they get 22Kw charging. The range may be good enough that they don't need to use public charging so no need to pay extra. It all comes down to cost, resale value is not a big consideration for most firms.
I suspect most vans do not use DC rapid charging anyway. They're purchased for a job, delivery round etc and the range will be enough for the daily use, so will never use DC charging anyway. A van buyer that drove more, will probably not be buying the electric version. So the lack of DC on the Visia models isn't an issue. Afterall, all Renault Kangoo ZE vans (until the 2023 model) has AC only charging. But yes you're right, the Visia models of the ENV200 (with AC only charging) are worth less used and many buy them without realising it has no DC charging. I hear from those (mostly independent dealers) frequently. But these new vans do have DC rapid charging on all models except the base Visia.
@@GoGreenAutos I think people get the misperception that current electric vans are meant to replace EVERY use case with a van. I think electric vans are a different use case to cars as vehicle weight is more an issue due to load limits and charging requirements. I've driven vans for various jobs in the past and never driven more than 120 miles in a day BUT that doesn't mean every use case can be fulfilled with an electric van currently, it's just going to take a bit longer for us to get better more energy dense batteries, plus more rapid chargers installed ,to make every use case viable. They may even need to go hybrid first so we meet the 2035 deadline.
@@GoGreenAutos That's really sad. At 36 mpg you can drive 50,000 miles on that much petrol, the petrol version may do more than 36.... There's just no excuse for EVs to be more expensive than an ICE powered car, MG have shown us that with their pricing of the MG4 which is pitched in the middle of petrol burning Golf's, Focus and similar sized cars.
Yes, for a new 2023 model, it could do with having another 10kWh in the battery. But the Renault powertrain should be more efficient than the Stallantis models, so its likely to do a similar range.
@@dot7107, but why does it need the word engine on it? An EV doesn’t have an engine and “start stop” would suffice for both models. Or is it just laziness from the manufacturer?
@@Dubnoreix "start stop" on ICEs is that function where they turn off the engine automatically at the lights. Make it "on/off", people understand that
@@CampGareth, I have a start stop button on my 2016 Nissan Leaf, so I now Nissan has those buttons laying around. And the start/stop-function on an ICEV doesn’t need a button, because it’s automatically engaged.
@@Dubnoreix same lazeniness what u can see under bonnet. There is plenty of room for BIG frunk, but no, they spread all the stuff around so that this space cannot be used for anything
@@Dubnoreix but if they can same engine like Kango ZE, but why cant do the same perfomance? i mean Kango cant "upgrade" 95 HorsePover? like the Fluence ZE can do the 70KW with same engine like Kango. It will be the best used electric van when he got some more power.
This will be a much better vehicle than the old NV200!! Let’s see how it performs on a run to somewhere like Hadstock, which is just outside Saffron Walden!!
Great video , with the Acenta model, the screen configuration remains the same. However, it's important to note that the acenta version doesn't come with its own integrated GPS navigation system. Instead, you can make use of CarPlay or Android Auto to utilize the screen as a satellite navigation tool. This feature allows you to seamlessly connect your mobile device and access navigation functions through the vehicle's display. - Love that digital drivers display in the Tekna+ ❤
In the short time you drove it did feel a good ride and comfy? One of the strong points of the Renault Kangoo ZE is it’s so comfortable.
It's certainly much stiffer suspension that the ZE33, but I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable. I came away thinking that I would be quite happy to have one as my car. It was very nice and far more refined that a van traditionally would be.
I shall see if my local Nissan man has them in stock for testing. I very much like the Leaf, but want something in which to get away when off duty!!
22kw AC is very very useful for lunchtime top ups. As ever it’s a small van with a small battery, perhaps a last mile work tool?
Last 180 miles!
Im tossing up between kangoo maxi or env200 40kw whats your thoughts on them? The new townstar does look nice but just not in my price range yet. Im replacing my old leaf 30
The Kangoo is a more comfortable with better suspension and seats. But has AC charging only so no good for long distance trips. If you charge from home and don't do long distances, then I'd much prefer the Kangoo.
Would you do an 8by 4 sheet challenge on the L2. Just want to see if a sheet could fit in diagonally in an L2
Will be a passanger version of Townstar with 3rd row of seats ?
Well Mercedes have already announced this will be a EQT and a T-Class and I've seen pics of this vehicle as passenger cars in other markets, so it might come here. Its all early days.
Out of town car start do they make passenger seating on the
Great video
did you say that neither this van or the Renault E TEC H come without DC fast charging?
cheers
No. They all have DC rapid charging, except the base Visia model.
I know there are specific use cases but I don't understand the lack of DC charging. Unless you are never going to sell it, I can't see the logic of not having it. It must affect the resale value.
If a company buys a load they will have a 3-phase AC at work they get 22Kw charging. The range may be good enough that they don't need to use public charging so no need to pay extra. It all comes down to cost, resale value is not a big consideration for most firms.
I suspect most vans do not use DC rapid charging anyway. They're purchased for a job, delivery round etc and the range will be enough for the daily use, so will never use DC charging anyway. A van buyer that drove more, will probably not be buying the electric version. So the lack of DC on the Visia models isn't an issue. Afterall, all Renault Kangoo ZE vans (until the 2023 model) has AC only charging.
But yes you're right, the Visia models of the ENV200 (with AC only charging) are worth less used and many buy them without realising it has no DC charging. I hear from those (mostly independent dealers) frequently.
But these new vans do have DC rapid charging on all models except the base Visia.
@@GoGreenAutos I think people get the misperception that current electric vans are meant to replace EVERY use case with a van. I think electric vans are a different use case to cars as vehicle weight is more an issue due to load limits and charging requirements. I've driven vans for various jobs in the past and never driven more than 120 miles in a day BUT that doesn't mean every use case can be fulfilled with an electric van currently, it's just going to take a bit longer for us to get better more energy dense batteries, plus more rapid chargers installed ,to make every use case viable. They may even need to go hybrid first so we meet the 2035 deadline.
The logic is it fits your use case and the leasing is cheap.
How long is it? It has to be a practical length to park in normal car parks.
4488mm
It’s amazing what you can Google in 10 seconds
L1 is 4486mm, L2 is 4910mm
Do you know the price and how it compares with the combustion engine version?
They are £9,500 (inc VAT) more than the petrol version.
@@GoGreenAutos That's really sad. At 36 mpg you can drive 50,000 miles on that much petrol, the petrol version may do more than 36.... There's just no excuse for EVs to be more expensive than an ICE powered car, MG have shown us that with their pricing of the MG4 which is pitched in the middle of petrol burning Golf's, Focus and similar sized cars.
Does it have lesf spring ot helical spring?
I didn't look, but I would guess its got helical springs like the previous generation Kangoo, as it is just a rebadged Kangoo.
@@GoGreenAutos ok. Thats why it is more comfortable than env200
How many miles to the charge up?
Info was in the video
Nice review but would like less tech and more battery like with stallantis models
Yes, for a new 2023 model, it could do with having another 10kWh in the battery. But the Renault powertrain should be more efficient than the Stallantis models, so its likely to do a similar range.
@@GoGreenAutos really a good point that stallantis motor needs updating
Can I please get one in Japan!!!!
Most of the dashboard is the same as my Renault Zoe car...
Renault, Nissan, Dacia all the same components.
I don’t understand why they won’t just put “start stop” on the button instead of “start engine stop”.
That is just a button... And likely it is same button in many different models
@@dot7107, but why does it need the word engine on it? An EV doesn’t have an engine and “start stop” would suffice for both models. Or is it just laziness from the manufacturer?
@@Dubnoreix "start stop" on ICEs is that function where they turn off the engine automatically at the lights. Make it "on/off", people understand that
@@CampGareth, I have a start stop button on my 2016 Nissan Leaf, so I now Nissan has those buttons laying around. And the start/stop-function on an ICEV doesn’t need a button, because it’s automatically engaged.
@@Dubnoreix same lazeniness what u can see under bonnet. There is plenty of room for BIG frunk, but no, they spread all the stuff around so that this space cannot be used for anything
So this is basically a Renault Zoe van then?
More like a Renault Kangoo Z.E.
@@Dubnoreix but if they can same engine like Kango ZE, but why cant do the same perfomance? i mean Kango cant "upgrade" 95 HorsePover? like the Fluence ZE can do the 70KW with same engine like Kango. It will be the best used electric van when he got some more power.
@@peterkovacs3556, I guess it’s down to the software.
In case you didn't see it, I did a video recently on the Kangoo ZE performance th-cam.com/video/1E8Bx0wJG4U/w-d-xo.html
@@GoGreenAutos oh thank U!
Have Nissan asked anyone to take one of these vans for conversion to a camper?
How the hell is he supposed to know that ?
Miles away from being practical as a camper. Travelling distances to out of the way places would be a total nightmare in an EV.
@@ghunt9146 Maybe he wants to camp in his back garden - an EV might just about have the range …… 🤔
Typical of Nissan not to know the correct details about the vehicles they are selling 🤷🏻♂️
I should have been more switched on, but I had limited time and trying to record content, while chatting with him, its difficult to multitask.
Yet another van festooned with useless featuroids and insufficient range. We'll keep our basic Caddy Maxi until the manufacturers see sense.