I noticed Man united had +2000 on stake to win the premier league. I cannot believe how far this club has fallen, we are truly in the mud. We used to be favorites!
Arsenal having Clive speaking on supporters behalf instead of Ty is like night and day. Turns it from a comedy show into a high level analysis of their team with great insights.
Clive is so soft spoken, his breakdown and analysis of the game is great too, if he did a pod about the prem and not just Arsenal, I'd definitely give it a listen
Ten Hag has been criticized for not having a style of play since he arrived. And now he’s being told to sacrifice his style of play and just get results. And when he gets results, he’s told he has no style of play. Pundits don’t seem to know what they believe anymore
I think results early on will help build a style. We don't need unnecessary pressure from losing games because we are trying to implement a style. We will get a style once we have an established 11
Yeah it's ridiculous, but I feel personally it is pretty obvious what he wants to do, he wants our team to be a transitional team, we saw it against city at the community shield, our attack looked way smoother, but it's not clinical enough, but currently I'm seeing a top 4 finish as possible
@@gouravleekha yawn. No originality at all; just parroting stuff you’ve read elsewhere. After Pepe, nobody had more trophies since he arrived. Last season we had the worst injury list in the league; entire back 4 out for most of the season
Rory is a buffoon but he's correct about Clearlake and Boehly they are clowns making terrible decisions because they do not understand the premier league and English football and their "model" is hugely flawed.
Mad how Scholesy wouldn’t even like doing a 2 min after match interview and now doing stuff like this, really like it tho sounds down to earth and says it straight
The draw away to Manchester City last season didn’t lose Arsenal the league. The losses at home to Villa and West Ham during the season cost Arsenal the league, not to mention the draw and losses to Fulham home and away.
@@tutu222ful I did understand his point winning away against city would have been a huge mental blow to city, I am just not agreeing that this result (draw) was what stopped Arsenal. It was the points dropped against sides we should have got more from especially at home.
@@LeechyPlatinum how does it make any sense . a win against city would have destroyed their confidence , given you +3 points opver them and you lot should go ahead and win the rest or could afford 1 draw
@@Chronicles_Of_WA Well obviously, why would I want to listen to someone talking about a club I have no interest in? I just want to hear about my own club and that’s it.
Maybe he has every right as he supports the best footballing team in the world, but he needs to tone down his arrogance. Just because your club is doing great things doesn't mean your opinion holds more weight than every other football fans.
They don't even listen to what Clive says - "Need a number 9" "Cant keep finishing 2nd" - scored record amount of goals and the rest of the league are miles of Citeh
@@relicreturns yeah remember how painful it was last year, just G Nev and Carra talking over him, and using each other as soundboards to validate their preexisting opinions. At least we know where we stand
Hosts were brilliant. Scholsey a fine addition with great ball knowledge and good patience listening to the audience. Ipswich will be the most loved club this season for sure
where they also suggested villa have no depth because they're too lazy to spend 30 seconds looking up that Emery has impressively assembled a squad that has two decent options per position
@@bjorn7100 A lot of people think Ronaldo is better than Messi, I don't need to agree with them. Gerrard played in a team that was not as good as United, had all the freedom and he was the main guy. Eyes were always on his when Liverpool play. Scholes played in a better team but he was probably the most important part of it. Even came back from retirement to help United win the PL again. Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo... were the ones people talk about the most, they had big media presence but Scholes was the guy who's dictating every game in silence.
Needed Baz from Toffee TV. Always speaks well, even about other clubs. And mad not talking about Everton's last season at Goodison Park. Been there since 1892. One of the grand old football grounds of England. 8 league titles won there (1st of the 9 being at Anfield). Deserved a mention imo. Especially with the new stadium looking good. Also, with with Leicester potentially getting a deduction this year. Clear comparisons to be made and discussions to be had. Tbh, I don't really understand why it isn't a two part show. Have the top 3 in the first video. Then the mid table clubs like Man Utd in the second part🎣🤣.
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 Because there was no section for Everton this time around. What's the point in turning up just to sit and listen? They could get any random to sit there wearing an Everton top haha.
@@DannyOConnor1991 oh no it was something else, they wanted to talk about Everton but he had a falling out with them over something, he said it on a livestream the other day, or he alluded to it at least
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 Oh right. I heard him basically say he swerved it because there was nothing about Everton. Guess we won't know the truth lol. Either way, was a shame. He'd spoken really well on the previous videos of recent years. Hopefully it's not a big falling out as you say. But we'll see! Thanks for letting me know either way.
Love Scholsey but his assessment on De Ligt is wrong, stats say different. At Juve he had to be sold because they were skint and Bayern supporters didn’t want him to leave and the supporters know.
Also Dier never got chosen infront of De Ligt as out of Diers 15 games they actually were paired up for 14 of those games Scholes made a false statement, Plus the Bayern fans never wanted De Ligt to leave, De Ligt is a born leader and paired with Martinez that's a massive upgrade on last years defence.
It's often argued that the rules are there to protect the traditional big six, and Manchester City's rise highlights this. Unlike the established top clubs, City has faced charges related to Financial Fair Play, possibly because their rapid ascent disrupted the status quo. Some might say the rules didn’t apply to City when they were outside the top six, which is why they are now being scrutinized. However, City's success shows that even under intense scrutiny, a club can break into the elite, challenging the notion that the rules solely protect the traditional giants.
@@BManip What intense scrutiny ? There's 115 un-answered charges that need addressing. If the ball was never dropped in the first place there would be no reason to try to pick it up now.
@@celtshaun1427 You're right that the 115 charges are significant, but their existence alone doesn't imply guilt. The scrutiny I mentioned refers to the ongoing investigations and media attention City has faced for years. Despite this, City has succeeded, showing they’ve operated under different pressures than other clubs. If the rules are applied fairly, the outcome will clarify things. Until then, City’s rise under such scrutiny still challenges the established order in English football.
Would love to see Ipswich push for the top 12 but have people seen how much more competitive the middle table teams are now. Its partly why the 3 promoted teams got absolutely stuffed last season. Fulham, Wolves, Palace, West Ham, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc. they all have good managers and strong squads pushing for European places.
So we got 2 minutes for Newcastle... Nothing about Tonali back, Guehi possibly coming, a right winger, Miley, Willock back, Botman back October (hopefully)... This could be great season for us.
ya far too negative, nothing positive, he's a right moaner, would have chosen a more positive TH-camr. PSR does not protect smaller clubs it should, but it actually protects the top 6.
He started 17 out of 22 games after Dier signed when he was available. He was also taken off in 3 of these games. Still pretty decent though and Dier in no way replaced him.
Hojlund scored 17 last season despite not playing his first game til Oct, Scoring his first in Dec and having another Inury set back in March. He could easily get 25-27 with the amount of games United could play this season especially with the EL being expanded to 8 games in the first stage.
Scholes Clearly hasn’t watched De Ligt and isn’t up to date why De Ligt leaving Bayern. The fact is he was bought for Nagelsmann & was doing well for him When Nagelsmann fell out with the club & got Sacked along came Tuchel. Tuchel & de ligt fell out and now De ligt is leaving simply because how the club treated him
Plus partnered Dier in 14 of the total of 15 starts Dier made for Bayern. Played 22 times in the league for Bayern in 23/24. Neuer played 23 times and Musiala, 24. He played a fair amount in a 34 game season where he also had a ligament injury
Clive is fantastic! His perspective on both the game and Arsenal is top-notch. He definitely deserves more airtime-I'd absolutely tune in if he had his own podcast. He's a great ambassador for Arsenal FC, and we could use more fans like him.
When did Arsenal celebrate after the draw vs City? Odegaard and Saliba said in the post match that it wasn't great but it's hard to win at City. No one on the pitch was celebrating.
@@TP-pq9xxno one is celebrating it, but 4 points against city is a good return. We're not going to let others gaslight us into believing 4 points against city cost us the league and is a sign of poor mentality.
Great job Carra and Scholesy! Some great discussion. Reminding everyone that Gary Neville called Villa to finish top 4 at the beginning of last season.
I feel like Scholesy knowledge about the current game is a bit outdated, he probably didn't watch a game of De Ligt last season and he says he didn't watch a game Zirkzee has played but he's judging him 😂.
@@kb5509 I don’t care how many people were watching Bologna games. To have an opinion of someone you need to watch them play. You can’t say they won’t make it but then say you haven’t watched them.
@kb5509 I watched them 3 times, wanted to see what Motta was doing, he's bonded good link up guy at this stage not sure he's built for the premier league but he could become that Firmino type where he's chips in with 15 but allows the wide .guys to flourish
@@Ryan-ys2bq yeah that's what he looks like to me. Weghorst played that type of role and just lacked finishing. Why do you think he's not ready for the PL?
@@calenbeiling1198 he NEVER said he wont make it he just states theres nothing to show he will and has his doubts. The stats dont lie. Zirkzee cant even get ahead of Weghorst in the worst dutch frontline in decades. On top of that UTD dont creat good chances for strikers. He is a bench warmer for sure.
I think this idea that LFC is going to drop massively after Klopp similiar to what Utd did after SAF is nonsense. The first main reason is because of the front office and how stable the club is. Compare that with all the things we have heard about Utds owners and how the club is ran when SAF left, it just feels like Arne is walking into a situation not just where he has great players but a great front office and staff that is very stable. Yes it’s going to be a big change like it is when a new manager comes in but already in preseason you can tell the players are adapting very well to his play style. A style that you could make a legit argument fits the players better than Klopps. They still press but they don’t “chase” like Pep Ljinders explained it. They focus a lot more on keeping possession and so they aren’t open for counter attacks as was their biggest weakness the past few years. I think you will see a much better defensively LFC, a much more ball control/possession based team that will greatly benefit players like Szobo, Macca, Gakpo, Nunez, TAA etc.
I think the issue for Arsenal last season was the week where they played Bayern twice and lost to Villa not drawing to Cit away. They had a near-perfect record in the league for the second half of the season, they need a perfect one to win it.
We had a quality first half against Villa and could have been 2-3 goals up at halftime. It's important to have quality squad players to cope with playing 3 games in a week on a consistent basis.
I think it just to harsh talking about one defeat and one draw over half a season as not good enough, when it is actually enormous. Sometimes you just have to say, hey you where great but another team was also great, but they got a couple more points than you.
@@michaelmalone1493when you use trophies as an argument for why a player is better, then you’ve ironically already lost the argument. Gerrard was clearly a better player, anyone with a brain could tell you this.
I really liked this one! Deeper analysis and no "You're wrong because you're wrong" arguments. I like the Scholesy-Carragher hosting, I think it sets a good tone for honest discussion. Stays on track too.
@@thrilla72I haven’t watched enough of De Ligt to be able to say he’s definitely a game changer for our defence but to say he’s been ousted from Bayerns defence in favour of Dier is just plain incorrect. Out of the 28 games after Dier arrived De Ligt was available for 23 of them and he’s started 20. That’s not exactly losing your place now is it?
If ETH wants to keep his job then he needs to play 433 all season. At the start of last season we had no fullbacks fit and he should have played 352 imo He played 433 for the last 4 games last season and we won those games.
It was a weird season for him, I don't super rate him but he's better than Rasmus is now and the kind you should have, not good enough to totally block his path to minutes but good enough to allow him to develop.
He was barely in the team last season under Tuchel, Kim took his position and they've gone signed another CB already this summer. He's seen as a back up and expendable.
He played 30 times for Bayern last season. Injured and unavailable for 17. Including the German supercup Bayern played 49 times last season, which means he wasn't in the first team twice. He most definitely was not backup. He played 42 times for Juve the season before they sold him. Most Juve fans were disappointed to see him leave and most Bayern fans don't want him to leave. It is very much a transfer in the Frankie De Jong realms because the club are trying to force him out due to his high wages and injuries. He wasn't asking to leave and it is not because of his performances on the pitch.
@Ryan-ys2bq I don't think you understand the financial landscape mate. Most people don't. They need to sell players, De Ligt is one they knew they could get money for. Plus, they're cautious about his injury record. That's something you might raise as a legitimate concern, but his ability is and never has been in doubt.
Scholes hasn't got a clue, it's wild to see. - Trying to say De Ligt didn't play or Bayern, they had a very consistent rotation going on with their CBs last year. - Toney would score 25 goals at United? Yeh if he has a 100% chance conversion rate. - Thinks Rashford could be a great striker. - Mentioning the open midfield forgetting that its directly affected by the deep defence caused by injuries.
@judtindouglas9051 The problem with Rashford is he's not good with playing with his back to goal link up play is non existent that's probably why ETH prefers him out wide. He's got the tools to play up top and it's not like he hasn't got the ability to play up top, just seems like every time the ball goes in to him with his back to goal he doesn't look comfortable.
Really impressed with Scholes again. I really value his opinion and insight. His analysis at games is also so underrated - simple, to the point and rarely wrong!
Jesus Abi was harsh on Arne. Got us in good stead to start this season, yes we need some business but the new Edwards/Hughes structure is there for a reason. I think that is an extremely pessimistic outlook on our football. A Dutch coach that's focused on a more controlled, sustainable playstyle is a good change for Liverpool.
She's right to be sceptical. He's unproven as a manager in the Premier League and Klopp became your messiah. Big shoes to fill. Running a big club with high expectations is a lot harder than surviving to keep your job. Look at Graham Potter. Brilliant at Brighton, useless at Chelsea.
Scholes is always worried about Arsenal's celebrations, it is his biggest Arsenal problem. For his information Arsenal did not lose the league because we drew to City. We lost the game losing to Villa. Sometimes you wonder if these guys research before coming to yap rubbish
What's you unpopular opinion for the 2024/25 season? 🤔
@@TheOverlap EPL games to be played abroad especially in the State. Just let them stick to Baseball!!!
Jamie Carragher is an excellent pundit.
@@calumroche2851 Far from it!
Aston Villa to show everyone up AGAIN!
The big teams run the division
I noticed Man united had +2000 on stake to win the premier league. I cannot believe how far this club has fallen, we are truly in the mud. We used to be favorites!
Stop living in the past, we need stability first before we can win the prem again. I think we need to give Ten Hag time
Brings me joy to see the state man utd are in today, and i hope they keep ten hag for as long as possible too.
Believe in the project. We're building a good squad slowly but surely
@@hanklesacksyou aren't funny
Will Manutd finish top 4?
Arsenal having Clive speaking on supporters behalf instead of Ty is like night and day. Turns it from a comedy show into a high level analysis of their team with great insights.
That's why Ty is popular. People like characters.
@@93lornamaeeven if they talk absolute rubbish?
Boring as fk though.
Do you think Clive knows you're allowed to put emphasis on words and not speak like you're reading a bed time story?
High level analysis 😅
Difference between Clive and AFTV is mental 😂
AFTV are cringe that’s why everyone laughs at them
@@jacpfc01Fr saying “GIvE uS mAdRiD” when they haven’t got 1 ucl and been in the competition nearly after a decade is wild💀
Just be grateful it’s not Ty still doin these shows
Is Clive a content creator?
@jordandavis3867 No, but he's a regular on an arsenal podcast as well as appearances now and then on wrighty's pod
I'd like Clive to read me to sleep. What a calm voice 😂😂😂
I was about to say 😂
I want him to read me a bedtime story.
Oh he sends me to sleep without the bedtime story considering his waffle & painted excuses 😂
@@patchh15 What did Clive do to you? You're in the comments crying about him. It's not that serious lad... 😂
100%
@MickeyRedNose and your here defending him 😂 listen to yourself, it's not that serious
Carragher presented this really well, asked good questions and kept the conversation flowing well...
What is with analysis in comments sections about these shows? It's their job. Strange people
@@danmancmufcIt's not that deep. Cry more.
I agree, he's a good presenter
Why all the extra people in the studio not having a say 😅😂
BOT
Clive is so soft spoken, his breakdown and analysis of the game is great too, if he did a pod about the prem and not just Arsenal, I'd definitely give it a listen
He needs to start an ASMR channel where he talks about football for an hour
Will Manutd finish top 4?
Ten Hag has been criticized for not having a style of play since he arrived. And now he’s being told to sacrifice his style of play and just get results. And when he gets results, he’s told he has no style of play. Pundits don’t seem to know what they believe anymore
I think results early on will help build a style. We don't need unnecessary pressure from losing games because we are trying to implement a style. We will get a style once we have an established 11
Yeah it's ridiculous, but I feel personally it is pretty obvious what he wants to do, he wants our team to be a transitional team, we saw it against city at the community shield, our attack looked way smoother, but it's not clinical enough, but currently I'm seeing a top 4 finish as possible
He has no style of play Nd he doesn't get results so he's sucking at it
@@gouravleekha he won 2 cups in two seasons, last season injury record pretty much explains most of what went wrong
@@gouravleekha yawn. No originality at all; just parroting stuff you’ve read elsewhere. After Pepe, nobody had more trophies since he arrived. Last season we had the worst injury list in the league; entire back 4 out for most of the season
Thank god it’s not Rory Jennings with his “Clearlake has robbed me of dreaming at this stage of the new season” nonsense.
Rory is a buffoon but he's correct about Clearlake and Boehly they are clowns making terrible decisions because they do not understand the premier league and English football and their "model" is hugely flawed.
Can't stand that divvy
Rory "look at it through the prism of" Jennings
The kremlin era was a blip. Its 1955 since Chelsea last won a league without Kremlin backing.
Love how he lives so rent free in your head
Carragher & Scholes make a great host pairing.
Scholes is much less biased than Neville as well when it comes to United
Absolutely, very surprised
Yes....was pleasantly surprised
Mad how Scholesy wouldn’t even like doing a 2 min after match interview and now doing stuff like this, really like it tho sounds down to earth and says it straight
he gets paid to do this, he didn't get paid to do post match interviews, not really 'mad'.
Called paying for a divorce mate
@@Kugannhe literally did get paid to do that though, there are media commitments in their contract.
@@Rafflewafflez he got paid to play football, the interviews were just a small part of the job, this is just a sole one off thing.
Because you had to be a robot or get yourself in trouble or stick from fans .
On here can say what he wants
Every season - Marcus Rashford will have a big season
Young lad with lots of potential 😂
He does seem to work in a 2 year cycle. One bad, one massive. Come on United. 🤞
He has 1 good season followed by a bad 1. Hazard won leagues for Chelsea doing that
He be 27 this year he has to perform this year
The draw away to Manchester City last season didn’t lose Arsenal the league.
The losses at home to Villa and West Ham during the season cost Arsenal the league, not to mention the draw and losses to Fulham home and away.
Loss away to Villa too, conceded early and then just couldn't break Villa down for 80 minutes. I stand by City away being a good point.
The fact that you didn't understand what he said rightly proves his point
@@tutu222ful I did understand his point winning away against city would have been a huge mental blow to city, I am just not agreeing that this result (draw) was what stopped Arsenal. It was the points dropped against sides we should have got more from especially at home.
Yep, against Villa for sure, Emery and Martinez were immense that day.
@@LeechyPlatinum how does it make any sense . a win against city would have destroyed their confidence , given you +3 points opver them and you lot should go ahead and win the rest or could afford 1 draw
'Feel good factor' what tournament was carragher watching
Beach Volleyball 🏐
😂
The feel good factor must be that Southgate is gone. I hope Lampard will be the next English manager 🙏
Somewhere Roy Keane is scowling at that intro, "Almost won the trophy".
Will Manutd finish top 4?
Thank god for the timestamps
Straight past Man City
@@dennisd666 Straight past all the plastic clubs
@@jimethotahow many is that ?
So we don’t like listening about various clubs? Just our own is it? Says a lot.
@@Chronicles_Of_WA Well obviously, why would I want to listen to someone talking about a club I have no interest in? I just want to hear about my own club and that’s it.
Nice of Big Steve to take time out of pre season training with the City squad to go and do The Overlap.
Maybe he has every right as he supports the best footballing team in the world, but he needs to tone down his arrogance.
Just because your club is doing great things doesn't mean your opinion holds more weight than every other football fans.
@@TheXxaddictxXReal Madrid exists
@@TheXxaddictxXI bet his club isnt facing 115 charges so his opinion holds a little more weight
@@TheXxaddictxX😂😂😂😂
Please adjust the overlap interlude music it's an eardrum destroyer for earbud/headphones users
100% this. Whoever the producer is shouldn't miss this basic fact.
Soft dialogues are on and then this sudden frantic loud noise barges in
100% needs sorting
@@AakashGeorgeMathaiit’s not that deep mate
Clive!!! Best possible representation for the club.
They don't even listen to what Clive says - "Need a number 9" "Cant keep finishing 2nd" - scored record amount of goals and the rest of the league are miles of Citeh
@@relicreturns yeah remember how painful it was last year, just G Nev and Carra talking over him, and using each other as soundboards to validate their preexisting opinions.
At least we know where we stand
Clive talks with a lot of sense and calmness, top man to represent our club. Thank goodness Ty isn't there like the old days on this channel... 😂
Too bad he’s wasted being on the same platform as Paul Scholes
I’m so so glad they stopped bringing that embarrassing lot from AFTV
Hosts were brilliant. Scholsey a fine addition with great ball knowledge and good patience listening to the audience. Ipswich will be the most loved club this season for sure
Not by me they wont 😂
Agree, but sadly they're gonna get pumped!
1 minute of Villa chat. That was fun
0 seconds of West Ham. New manager and just signed Füllkrug. There is plenty to talk about.
where they also suggested villa have no depth because they're too lazy to spend 30 seconds looking up that Emery has impressively assembled a squad that has two decent options per position
@@weekendwarriorprospecting817this was recorded before that I think
Wasn’t much time left after 30 minutes of Manu chat, like every football program.
Well yeah nobody cares
Seems like a good time for Jamie to ask his traditional 'Scholes Vs Steeevie' question
Scholes ended that himself.
@@carlchadwick9858Because he doesn't care. If u watch football for real and think Gerrard is better, then I guess stop watching football.
@@perakojot5628 What a weird comment, especially when more fans seem to think Gerrard was better (including non United/Liverpool fans), but ok
@@bjorn7100 A lot of people think Ronaldo is better than Messi, I don't need to agree with them. Gerrard played in a team that was not as good as United, had all the freedom and he was the main guy. Eyes were always on his when Liverpool play. Scholes played in a better team but he was probably the most important part of it. Even came back from retirement to help United win the PL again. Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo... were the ones people talk about the most, they had big media presence but Scholes was the guy who's dictating every game in silence.
Paul Scholes won about 11 premier league trophies. There is nothing to debate
Thanks for having us on! Howay the lads!
Nice one Lee! 🖤🤍
Well represented bud. HWTL 👊
Good man Lee. You did a great job representing us.
Needed Baz from Toffee TV. Always speaks well, even about other clubs. And mad not talking about Everton's last season at Goodison Park. Been there since 1892. One of the grand old football grounds of England. 8 league titles won there (1st of the 9 being at Anfield). Deserved a mention imo. Especially with the new stadium looking good.
Also, with with Leicester potentially getting a deduction this year. Clear comparisons to be made and discussions to be had.
Tbh, I don't really understand why it isn't a two part show. Have the top 3 in the first video. Then the mid table clubs like Man Utd in the second part🎣🤣.
They did ask him but he said no, don’t know why
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 Because there was no section for Everton this time around. What's the point in turning up just to sit and listen? They could get any random to sit there wearing an Everton top haha.
@@DannyOConnor1991 oh no it was something else, they wanted to talk about Everton but he had a falling out with them over something, he said it on a livestream the other day, or he alluded to it at least
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 Oh right. I heard him basically say he swerved it because there was nothing about Everton. Guess we won't know the truth lol. Either way, was a shame. He'd spoken really well on the previous videos of recent years. Hopefully it's not a big falling out as you say. But we'll see!
Thanks for letting me know either way.
Love Scholsey but his assessment on De Ligt is wrong, stats say different. At Juve he had to be sold because they were skint and Bayern supporters didn’t want him to leave and the supporters know.
Also Dier never got chosen infront of De Ligt as out of Diers 15 games they actually were paired up for 14 of those games Scholes made a false statement, Plus the Bayern fans never wanted De Ligt to leave, De Ligt is a born leader and paired with Martinez that's a massive upgrade on last years defence.
Clive is so sharp. Love that guy
The rules are not there to protect the smaller clubs, they are there to protect the position of the big six.
It's often argued that the rules are there to protect the traditional big six, and Manchester City's rise highlights this. Unlike the established top clubs, City has faced charges related to Financial Fair Play, possibly because their rapid ascent disrupted the status quo. Some might say the rules didn’t apply to City when they were outside the top six, which is why they are now being scrutinized. However, City's success shows that even under intense scrutiny, a club can break into the elite, challenging the notion that the rules solely protect the traditional giants.
@@BManip What intense scrutiny ? There's 115 un-answered charges that need addressing. If the ball was never dropped in the first place there would be no reason to try to pick it up now.
@@celtshaun1427 You're right that the 115 charges are significant, but their existence alone doesn't imply guilt. The scrutiny I mentioned refers to the ongoing investigations and media attention City has faced for years. Despite this, City has succeeded, showing they’ve operated under different pressures than other clubs. If the rules are applied fairly, the outcome will clarify things. Until then, City’s rise under such scrutiny still challenges the established order in English football.
Would love to see Ipswich push for the top 12 but have people seen how much more competitive the middle table teams are now. Its partly why the 3 promoted teams got absolutely stuffed last season. Fulham, Wolves, Palace, West Ham, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc. they all have good managers and strong squads pushing for European places.
Yes i did think what a unrealistic expectation that was, just stay in the PL is as high as they should wish for!
Everton won’t be anywhere near the relegation zone
Calling De Ligt "not good enough" is a bit harsh, he was always decent in Juventus, and he had a fall out with Tuchel
Yeah but what do they know? You think they watch football outside the PL?
so now tuchel is gone why is bayern still don’t want him ? plus he didn’t start at euro that should told you something
@faridirwan7610 exactly even with the selection the Dutch have of cbs you'd expect him to be in the team if he's as good as we expected him to become
He was a failure at juve. They payed crazy money for him and he never was good enough to start consistently
@@samuraidgoat5601stop lying. He was a regular starter
So we got 2 minutes for Newcastle... Nothing about Tonali back, Guehi possibly coming, a right winger, Miley, Willock back, Botman back October (hopefully)... This could be great season for us.
ya far too negative, nothing positive, he's a right moaner, would have chosen a more positive TH-camr. PSR does not protect smaller clubs it should, but it actually protects the top 6.
small irrelevant club, thats why you only got 2 minutes
@@Unknown1684 Huh Huh, wow thanks random Man United person. I'm sure that genuine connection with your club is fuelling such a desperate comment!
Scholes talking nonsense on de ligt here, he played 23 out of the 24 games he was available for after Dier signed with 28 games to go
He started 17 out of 22 games after Dier signed when he was available. He was also taken off in 3 of these games. Still pretty decent though and Dier in no way replaced him.
De Ligt is shite and injury prone - ultimate United player
@@dozz87until last season, he was averaging 40 games a season last 5 seasons, so injury prone is bullshit narrative
Hojlund scored 17 last season despite not playing his first game til Oct, Scoring his first in Dec and having another Inury set back in March.
He could easily get 25-27 with the amount of games United could play this season especially with the EL being expanded to 8 games in the first stage.
And an extra goal or two would be possible if dalot and other players will actually pass the ball instead of useless shots on goal
20+ league goals is what we need
So you’re counting the champions league goals in the total goals count but not In The count for when he scored his first?
The Hojlund misunderstanding is crazy. Saying Toney gets 25 goals at United is braindead imo.
Hojland is decent but not good. Where’s the proof that he’ll be anything but a flop.
Scholes is such a top bloke. Was a super player, and he always exhibits Great honesty. Respect. ✊ YNWA
Throwback to when Troopz used to be on these, shows were absolute carnage!
Scholes Clearly hasn’t watched De Ligt and isn’t up to date why De Ligt leaving Bayern. The fact is he was bought for Nagelsmann & was doing well for him When Nagelsmann fell out with the club & got Sacked along came Tuchel. Tuchel & de ligt fell out and now De ligt is leaving simply because how the club treated him
Plus partnered Dier in 14 of the total of 15 starts Dier made for Bayern. Played 22 times in the league for Bayern in 23/24. Neuer played 23 times and Musiala, 24. He played a fair amount in a 34 game season where he also had a ligament injury
Christ the content just doesn't stop.. and we absolutely love it 🎉
Just wait till Gary Neville appears on the Gary Neville podcast. Produced directed and written by and starring Gary Neville the hotel owner.
Taking the Lords name in vane gets you like by the channel these days, wow
@@TamrielicScholarvain..
Adam Mckola is a ball bag
lmao
Hes class, and always spot on.
@@sG12669Hi Adam 👋🤣
Clive is fantastic! His perspective on both the game and Arsenal is top-notch. He definitely deserves more airtime-I'd absolutely tune in if he had his own podcast. He's a great ambassador for Arsenal FC, and we could use more fans like him.
When did Arsenal celebrate after the draw vs City? Odegaard and Saliba said in the post match that it wasn't great but it's hard to win at City. No one on the pitch was celebrating.
Literally lmao, don’t remember any celebrations
They’re literally speaking about the game against liverpool, fools
They are conditioned to hate arsenal unfortunately. It leads to them to make up stuff
Arsenal supporters are still today celebrating their 4 points against City last season. If you haven't seen it you aren't looking very hard.
@@TP-pq9xxno one is celebrating it, but 4 points against city is a good return. We're not going to let others gaslight us into believing 4 points against city cost us the league and is a sign of poor mentality.
Great job Carra and Scholesy! Some great discussion. Reminding everyone that Gary Neville called Villa to finish top 4 at the beginning of last season.
‘TH-camr debate’. Fixed it for you (only some not all guests).
Are they not fans?
@@James-de2hp They're TH-camrs as stated.
Same people every show, getting very boring at this point.
@@ToastMalone824 but the original post says nothing about needing to mix it up
Yeah you can tell a lot of these people didn’t watch football when they were younger
I feel like Scholesy knowledge about the current game is a bit outdated, he probably didn't watch a game of De Ligt last season and he says he didn't watch a game Zirkzee has played but he's judging him 😂.
How many people were watching Bologna games?
@@kb5509 I don’t care how many people were watching Bologna games. To have an opinion of someone you need to watch them play. You can’t say they won’t make it but then say you haven’t watched them.
@kb5509 I watched them 3 times, wanted to see what Motta was doing, he's bonded good link up guy at this stage not sure he's built for the premier league but he could become that Firmino type where he's chips in with 15 but allows the wide .guys to flourish
@@Ryan-ys2bq yeah that's what he looks like to me. Weghorst played that type of role and just lacked finishing. Why do you think he's not ready for the PL?
@@calenbeiling1198 he NEVER said he wont make it he just states theres nothing to show he will and has his doubts. The stats dont lie. Zirkzee cant even get ahead of Weghorst in the worst dutch frontline in decades. On top of that UTD dont creat good chances for strikers. He is a bench warmer for sure.
I think this idea that LFC is going to drop massively after Klopp similiar to what Utd did after SAF is nonsense. The first main reason is because of the front office and how stable the club is. Compare that with all the things we have heard about Utds owners and how the club is ran when SAF left, it just feels like Arne is walking into a situation not just where he has great players but a great front office and staff that is very stable. Yes it’s going to be a big change like it is when a new manager comes in but already in preseason you can tell the players are adapting very well to his play style. A style that you could make a legit argument fits the players better than Klopps. They still press but they don’t “chase” like Pep Ljinders explained it. They focus a lot more on keeping possession and so they aren’t open for counter attacks as was their biggest weakness the past few years. I think you will see a much better defensively LFC, a much more ball control/possession based team that will greatly benefit players like Szobo, Macca, Gakpo, Nunez, TAA etc.
Lots of people are praying Liverpool drop off.
@@SkywalkerXxX let them, we don’t care. lol
very impressed with Scholes, proper football man
I think the issue for Arsenal last season was the week where they played Bayern twice and lost to Villa not drawing to Cit away. They had a near-perfect record in the league for the second half of the season, they need a perfect one to win it.
We had a quality first half against Villa and could have been 2-3 goals up at halftime. It's important to have quality squad players to cope with playing 3 games in a week on a consistent basis.
I think it just to harsh talking about one defeat and one draw over half a season as not good enough, when it is actually enormous. Sometimes you just have to say, hey you where great but another team was also great, but they got a couple more points than you.
@@Ljbob419 people don't remember beautiful losers. The second half of the season was way beyond extraordinary.
Just hope they continue in the same way
I thought the Liverpool section was gonna be positive 🤣 quite enjoyed our pre season slots style looks good
Thanks for bringing Greatest PL midfielder of all time.
I didn’t see lamps or Gerrard?
How many pl titles they both won?
@@michaelmalone1493 okay so is Carrick better than Gerrard then? Pick a better metric please.
Keane was better
@@michaelmalone1493when you use trophies as an argument for why a player is better, then you’ve ironically already lost the argument. Gerrard was clearly a better player, anyone with a brain could tell you this.
I really liked this one! Deeper analysis and no "You're wrong because you're wrong" arguments. I like the Scholesy-Carragher hosting, I think it sets a good tone for honest discussion. Stays on track too.
Great watch really enjoyed it.
Well done Luke even though they only gave you one question accept for Scholesy the disregard toward Villa is palpable !!
Great to see whats happening to Chelsea. Couldn’t happen to a nicer club
Saying Dier displayed 'statesman-like behaviour' after he went in the crowd trying to fight people 😂
Finally a current episode, love it ❤
Scholes is sooo wrong about De Ligt
Would love to hear your argument De Ligt?
If your questioning his injuries then totally fair but as far as quality it’s easily good enough, it is idiotic to say otherwise
@@thrilla72I haven’t watched enough of De Ligt to be able to say he’s definitely a game changer for our defence but to say he’s been ousted from Bayerns defence in favour of Dier is just plain incorrect. Out of the 28 games after Dier arrived De Ligt was available for 23 of them and he’s started 20. That’s not exactly losing your place now is it?
These expert ‘pundits’ don’t watch football outside this country
Question is why Juve and Bayern getting rid of him, coincidence???@@hamzahussain1184
Assuming Adam meant NPC when he called Malacia an NFT? 😂
Also how doesn’t he know where he’s disappeared to? I thought it was well known he’s had knee surgery twice as he first one didn’t go correctly
Nah he meant he's only seen on screen not in real life....I'm honestly starting to think he is a.i 😂
Rug pulled 😂😂
NFT makes sense
NFT = doesn't really exist, the analogy works but maybe a year out of date
26:19 the difference “it’s dight and day” 😂
Carra on his Ten Hag hate campaign
Cause Max Branning is a terrible manager.
Victim mentality. Dont turn into Arsenal fans
And I love it
STOP CRYING everyone is allowed an opinion,go get a job in media & tell your story
8th
What a show, absolutely loved it
ETH will be just fine this season.
UTV the mighty Villa.. great job, representing us villa fans Luke.
If ETH wants to keep his job then he needs to play 433 all season.
At the start of last season we had no fullbacks fit and he should have played 352 imo
He played 433 for the last 4 games last season and we won those games.
Carra needing the glasses for just the first 4 seconds
Why is Scholes thinking Ivan Toney is good enough to get us back to winning? The guy scored 4 goals in 17 games last season
Ivan Toney is an elite footballer.
It was a weird season for him, I don't super rate him but he's better than Rasmus is now and the kind you should have, not good enough to totally block his path to minutes but good enough to allow him to develop.
@@danielberry4765 ok so would he start for Man City? No. Would he start for Liverpool? No. Would he start for Arsenal? No
@@alexchurch5988He'd start for both Liverpool and Arsenal not city though
@alexchurch5988 Toney starts for Arsenal and I'd love him to come
I'm glad this is back on the overlap, this is so go to watch , and to hear from the fans.
I don't think Scholes knows anything De Ligt. He is not a back up at Bayern and was not a failure at Juve.
He was barely in the team last season under Tuchel, Kim took his position and they've gone signed another CB already this summer. He's seen as a back up and expendable.
I mean he was both of those things 🤷
He played 30 times for Bayern last season. Injured and unavailable for 17. Including the German supercup Bayern played 49 times last season, which means he wasn't in the first team twice. He most definitely was not backup.
He played 42 times for Juve the season before they sold him. Most Juve fans were disappointed to see him leave and most Bayern fans don't want him to leave.
It is very much a transfer in the Frankie De Jong realms because the club are trying to force him out due to his high wages and injuries. He wasn't asking to leave and it is not because of his performances on the pitch.
@samwize28 Tah is Upa's replacement, I'm sorry but you don't ditch your 75m defender for 50m unless you don't see him in the team.
@Ryan-ys2bq I don't think you understand the financial landscape mate. Most people don't. They need to sell players, De Ligt is one they knew they could get money for. Plus, they're cautious about his injury record. That's something you might raise as a legitimate concern, but his ability is and never has been in doubt.
Love that scholes and carragher still speak to the fans, even when asked a question by each other
Scholes hasn't got a clue, it's wild to see.
- Trying to say De Ligt didn't play or Bayern, they had a very consistent rotation going on with their CBs last year.
- Toney would score 25 goals at United? Yeh if he has a 100% chance conversion rate.
- Thinks Rashford could be a great striker.
- Mentioning the open midfield forgetting that its directly affected by the deep defence caused by injuries.
Don't know anything outside of England
Rashford started as a striker and was great. Its how he got noticed
@judtindouglas9051 The problem with Rashford is he's not good with playing with his back to goal link up play is non existent that's probably why ETH prefers him out wide. He's got the tools to play up top and it's not like he hasn't got the ability to play up top, just seems like every time the ball goes in to him with his back to goal he doesn't look comfortable.
@@judtindouglas9051when he had a partner up top with him, he’s not a solo striker.
@@judtindouglas9051 True but he's played up front a lot the past 2 season and been completely ineffectual.
Love the way all the fans reps feel super positive, they all start the season with such optimism.
Really impressed with Scholes again. I really value his opinion and insight. His analysis at games is also so underrated - simple, to the point and rarely wrong!
Scholes was amazing in this
Love the Carragher and scholes dynamic! Keep it like that
The egos of these TH-camrs are out of control its hilarious they think they are experts 😂
All absolute wet wipes
Bloody hell Clive I got my pillow out when you started your dissertation
Hopefully, there's discussion about more than 6 clubs
Quite happy for it to be about the 6 clubs
What a shocker. Carragher's hot take is ten Hag sacked by November.
It's not even a hot take,.it's highly likely.
Scholesy speaks like the kid in class that the teacher has picked on to answer the question to the rest of the room when he doesn’t want to
Carragher absolutely despises ten Haag and I just don’t know why.
Jesus Abi was harsh on Arne. Got us in good stead to start this season, yes we need some business but the new Edwards/Hughes structure is there for a reason. I think that is an extremely pessimistic outlook on our football. A Dutch coach that's focused on a more controlled, sustainable playstyle is a good change for Liverpool.
She's a kid, need a more mature person to talk on Liverpool
She's right to be sceptical. He's unproven as a manager in the Premier League and Klopp became your messiah. Big shoes to fill. Running a big club with high expectations is a lot harder than surviving to keep your job. Look at Graham Potter. Brilliant at Brighton, useless at Chelsea.
@@subheg2373 She's probably the same age as you, "kid".
@@subheg2373 She's 23
33:09 Scholes awareness 😂
Flav tried to be nice & was then shat on for it.
Spursy innit.
Clive btw is a great representation to Arsenal fans. Absolutely well spoken guy
Heres Carra head of a group of Carras :D big up Carra & Scholesy COYR!
Let's Have it! Good morning guys ❤ Have a safe and enjoyable day
Chelsea when they had 7 goalkeepers: 'is it enough tho?'
Crazy to see no Everton representative??? Especially after the season we’ve just had too😭😭😭
There's probably going to be a part 2, when fans from other clubs get to speak.
There will be a part 2.
I don't want to put ideas in Pep's head but the backup they need for Haaland is Isaak from Newcastle.
Maresca has legit coached Palmer before lol
No one cares.
Palmer wasn't as good as some other City players when he was in the academy. So Maresca wasn't getting the best out of him.
@@TP-pq9xx 20 G +A in 16 games isn't getting the best out of someone ?
@@22z-22z Depends on if you think he is less talented than Liam Delap.
@@TP-pq9xx stop wafflin
Hojlund is a good striker gicen that hes 3rd in the league for chance conversion and 56th for chances created for him
First sentence from Carra’s mouth is nonsense. Almost won the Euros and people are excited about England’s football? 😂 Joker
Absolutely agree with Scholes, when he said he thinks haaland pissed pep off a few times last season, versatility is underrated
Until City are held to account, this league means nothing. We've had a decade of meaningless fixed football.
cry harder 😂😂
😭
Subjective. When this charges are won no one will remember them.
Oh shut up mate don’t even support Man City but this narrative is boring
😂🤣🤣but you’ve been sat there watching all of it like a 🤡
De light wasn’t replaced. It was the South Korean defender
Jamie - "Did Leicester try and get into the top 4 I cant remember" - Yes they won the premier league 😆
he's referring to that period 4/5 years ago where they threw it away twice
Great pod. Scholes knows his football. Top show guys.
Clive!!!
Thanks to Gary Neville and everyone involved for bringing us a great show and long may it continue. 🎉🎉
Thanks for giving Saints a voice!
Callum Hudson odoi scored the same as Anthony and garnacho combined. Youuu reds, magic 🌳
Scholes is always worried about Arsenal's celebrations, it is his biggest Arsenal problem. For his information Arsenal did not lose the league because we drew to City. We lost the game losing to Villa. Sometimes you wonder if these guys research before coming to yap rubbish
If you'd have beat city you'd have won the league though.
In Maresca we trust.
So you're backing a Championship level Manager? Wow