I agree. That's what I like doing, thinking of experimental propulsion concepts. My latest one even looks similar to the Jellyfish, although it rotates both forward and sideways. Best thing is that it has no reverse thrust, only forward. I immediately thought of Spock's ship when it came to mind.
My father and I had seen every Star Trek movie in the theater all the way from The Motion Picture original to Star Trek Beyond but when we saw the 2009 JJ Abrams we were very confused and disappointed. Unfortunately my father passed away and Star Trek just isn't the same without him.
The ship was “very, very wee” - not all American viewers will understand “wee” in our language, vs’ British 😉 Yes, the Geordie LaForge element of design, from the “Countdown” comic around the 2009 film, to give some TNG links - yet that is not said in the Kelvin movies. 🖖
It's a modified warp ring design. Could only assume it's designed to traverse hazardous space like those that had damaged subspace. If it's research vessel, its to test TransWarp, Slipstream, Coaxial Warp, etc. As for the design, it could be emulating the Founder Laas FTL capable organic lifeform when it intercepted DS9's runabout in Chimera episode.
You should do the Excelsior II Class. It never made sense that the Romulans were refugees in Federation space.. they had an entire fleet and empire... why didn't they just move their civilians to other planets in their own empire?
is there a reason they equipped the ship with that much red matter? They only needed a drop of it and given it's nature I should think that it's difficult to acquire/create and is also extremely valuable. Also don't Romulan ships use black holes a power sources? You'd think they out of anyone would know how to swallow their sun with blackhole.
Given the existence of cake ships, I like to think that the so-called "red matter" was, in fact, humble strawberry Jam. Given this 'fact', there will never, ever be enough of it.
It’s illogical, Captain. Everything about this ships design seems to denote a design philosophy of “make it look cool, it doesn’t matter if it serves no purpose”. And then we come to the “red matter”…. Why have a giant ball of this solar system ending stuff in a ridiculously underpowered, fragile, slow and frankly stupid ship, than just a dot of the stuff on the end of a syringe? Dumb Trek. Gene spins like this stupid ship in his grave, as it truly denoted the death of intelligent, science led Star Trek.
I'm disappointed that it's called the Jellyfish and not something much cooler, but other than that I love the ship design, especially the organic look of it.
😂🤣. Cake indeed! I was taught if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. Happy holidays everyone! Thanks everyone at Trek Central for a great year 👍. 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦🕊️
It never made sense to me why Spock didn't detonate a single red matter capsule when his ship was captured. Could have signaled his surrender but when he approached to land, launched and speed away out of the landing bay prior to the red matter impact. Then again, it also never made sense to be why such a large stock pile of red matter was stored on that ship. with how little of it was needed and how destructive it could be, that seems like a very bad idea.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well executed and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the Vulcan Jellyfish vessel and it's various abilities duties and functions and on it's propulsion unit and on its weapons systems and shielding capabilities and so forth and so on and on the Red Matter and the purpose of its major usage as well guys, A job very nicely well executed and well explained indeed Sir!,👌. And p.s. May you all have a very wonderful and Merry Christmas 🎄...
Was the Romulan supernova from Abramsverse ever explicitly stated to be THE primary of Romulus/Remus? I thought every time they refer to it (as the “Hobus supernova”, in the Countdown comic), it’s just A star within Romulan space..
Lt. Commander Adam - The very first videos I saw from this channel, were narrated like this one , by You. The humor, the sarcastic wit and your comedic acting got me sucked in from the beginning. Why aren't you doing more videos? Your humor reminded me of people in my hometown, New York City. Yes, I enjoy shawn and ms. littlefield(?) on Trek Central, too. But I like your humorous, sarcastic take on Star Trek subjects and Look forward to seeing your videos the most.
Thanks so much for the compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed :D The credit belongs to the whole team; the more the researchers research, editors edit and writers write, the more I get to waffle. :P
I thought perhaps fasted impulse . We have seen in other movies like generations. Stellar events can effect subspace . And force ships to go around. ( Stellar cartography scene). One star effects a star sector .
Was it the Romulan star or the Hobus star? I thought the deal behind it was because it was a star further away that wasn't an issue until the explosion went into subspace?
I honestly am ok with the design, even if it doesn't make much sense. Don't get me wrong, it's an unconventional craft designed to handle a very unconventional mission. But it honestly echoes a few underlying questions about Federation ship designs. 1. Why the lack of consistency? Earth's Starfleet has its own designs, as do the ships of other planets. While things with an inherant Starfleet design are often just straight up called "Federation Tech", asthetics seem to vary quite severely in spite of this from culture to culture. 2. Why does it always fall to Starfleet to tackle the problems of the quadrant? The Federation has MANY member worlds, but we RARELY see ships from other member worlds. In fact, how many Vulcan ships have ever appeared on screen before Enterprise? Additionally, were there really not enough ships between all member worlds to help evacuate? This seems very improbable. 3. There's no ship since which has had any of the design ques of the Jellyfish. Sure, it could just be highly specialized for Red Matter transport. But you would think any number of design elements would appear elsewhere post-Romulan Supernova.
Very definition of ironic… this video was interrupted by a Fleet Command ad and that ad showed none other than Spock’s Jellyfish ship lol. As I refuse to give Google money for TH-cam Red or whatever the fuck it’s called now.
Well the jellyfish if you look at it it does kind of follow the 22nd century geometry of Vulcan ships so there is still a connective lineage I just think it's stupid that it spins
Did anyone ever posit the idea that it was the fault of the q continuum that the romulans star went supernova? From what I recall from Voyager, that's kind of how it went.
JarJar Trek and Kurtztrek don’t count. That ship ran on JarJar stupidity reactor which used a Ruin Johnson and A$$hole Kurtzman annihilation reactor for power production.
THIS ship! Is but one of the Star Trek Online ships, that I've ALWAYS suspected that you have to be WHITER than WONDER BREAD to be able to actually have a chance of you know, ACQUIRING IT!
It honestly didn’t make any sense both to send a one man ship but we know it was to invoke Spock saving the day in wrath of Kahn because Abrams can’t be bothered to do anything but derivation. but on its face, the ship really shouldn’t have been one manned, it should have had engineers, scientists, and a backup plan, systems, pilot, etc. to ensure success. It didn’t need to be a tiny ship, as we know Spock gave the calculations for the HMS Bounty to go into timewarp TWICE, why that couldn’t happen again to save the Hobus Star doesn’t hash with cannon (yet another reason… SORRY SORRY!!!) okay but the design - it’s I guess protecting the core from attack with the spinning? Idk it doesn’t seem adequate. Not in the same lore universe that has a zero manned ship ten times the size of the enterprise (vengeance) okay sorry
I remember better times before 2009. When all we had to worry about was a theme tune with words.
It’s been a long time…
@@NeonVisual Its been a long road~
I liked the design felt very different and experimental rather than just a repackaging of something that had already been done well before.
I agree. That's what I like doing, thinking of experimental propulsion concepts. My latest one even looks similar to the Jellyfish, although it rotates both forward and sideways. Best thing is that it has no reverse thrust, only forward. I immediately thought of Spock's ship when it came to mind.
Loved the Jellyfish from the moment I saw it. Unusual and underused design. Thanks for the deep dive.
My father and I had seen every Star Trek movie in the theater all the way from The Motion Picture original to Star Trek Beyond but when we saw the 2009 JJ Abrams we were very confused and disappointed. Unfortunately my father passed away and Star Trek just isn't the same without him.
Correction...star trek just isn't the same period!
This movie had so many plot holes in it that a supernova could fly through it without ever hitting the edges
Love the Hitchhikers reference !! Awesome work mate !!
The ship was “very, very wee” - not all American viewers will understand “wee” in our language, vs’ British 😉
Yes, the Geordie LaForge element of design, from the “Countdown” comic around the 2009 film, to give some TNG links - yet that is not said in the Kelvin movies.
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It's a modified warp ring design. Could only assume it's designed to traverse hazardous space like those that had damaged subspace. If it's research vessel, its to test TransWarp, Slipstream, Coaxial Warp, etc. As for the design, it could be emulating the Founder Laas FTL capable organic lifeform when it intercepted DS9's runabout in Chimera episode.
Cake! Cake! Cake! Chocolate cake? Yellow cake? Wedding cake? WHAT KIND OF CAKE?
BATTENBERG-CLASS STARSHIP USS SUGARPRISE, NCC-1701-YUM
@@xedanis101 🤣🤣🤣
Cheers adam. Merry Christmas to the team
You should do the Excelsior II Class. It never made sense that the Romulans were refugees in Federation space.. they had an entire fleet and empire... why didn't they just move their civilians to other planets in their own empire?
One of the books (Picard???) hit on this saying that the empire controlled information about the supernova so much that it delayed the evacuation.
I'll cosign on that! 🫡
is there a reason they equipped the ship with that much red matter? They only needed a drop of it and given it's nature I should think that it's difficult to acquire/create and is also extremely valuable. Also don't Romulan ships use black holes a power sources? You'd think they out of anyone would know how to swallow their sun with blackhole.
Given the existence of cake ships, I like to think that the so-called "red matter" was, in fact, humble strawberry Jam. Given this 'fact', there will never, ever be enough of it.
It’s illogical, Captain. Everything about this ships design seems to denote a design philosophy of “make it look cool, it doesn’t matter if it serves no purpose”. And then we come to the “red matter”…. Why have a giant ball of this solar system ending stuff in a ridiculously underpowered, fragile, slow and frankly stupid ship, than just a dot of the stuff on the end of a syringe? Dumb Trek. Gene spins like this stupid ship in his grave, as it truly denoted the death of intelligent, science led Star Trek.
Suggestion for your next Ship video: The Delta Flyer. We need a break down of IMO, the most bad ass shuttle in Star Fleet history.
Oooh this is a good suggestion!
- Jack
Star trek Section 31 nimrod class ships?
I think he did a video about them already. Section 31 fleet.
The rescue fleet? Cake ships? That seems half-baked, with no proof in the pudding because there is none. Yeast we got a good laugh out of it.
I'm disappointed that it's called the Jellyfish and not something much cooler, but other than that I love the ship design, especially the organic look of it.
That's actually a pretty cool looking ship... 😏
The rotating crescent section may have also helped to stabilize the ship like a gyroscope in order to keep the Red Matter safe.
I never thought “cake”, but I did think “Mark Wallenberg”…
😂🤣. Cake indeed! I was taught if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. Happy holidays everyone! Thanks everyone at Trek Central for a great year 👍. 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦🕊️
For the next Ship to cover, i nominate the "Jarok Alliance Carrier"
How about a video on the Constitution Class USS Defiant?
Great I want cake now nice one....👍👌👍😅
It never made sense to me why Spock didn't detonate a single red matter capsule when his ship was captured. Could have signaled his surrender but when he approached to land, launched and speed away out of the landing bay prior to the red matter impact.
Then again, it also never made sense to be why such a large stock pile of red matter was stored on that ship. with how little of it was needed and how destructive it could be, that seems like a very bad idea.
I thought the same thing. Why the absurd amount of a dangerous substance when you only need a small marble amount to do the job.
So Vulcan had its own 'vomit comet'! Who would have thought....
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well executed and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the Vulcan Jellyfish vessel and it's various abilities duties and functions and on it's propulsion unit and on its weapons systems and shielding capabilities and so forth and so on and on the Red Matter and the purpose of its major usage as well guys, A job very nicely well executed and well explained indeed Sir!,👌. And p.s. May you all have a very wonderful and Merry Christmas 🎄...
The 2013 virtual collectible card battle game Star Trek: Rivals has the Jellyfish on card #94 "Prototype Jellyfish".
Was the Romulan supernova from Abramsverse ever explicitly stated to be THE primary of Romulus/Remus? I thought every time they refer to it (as the “Hobus supernova”, in the Countdown comic), it’s just A star within Romulan space..
Lt. Commander Adam - The very first videos I saw from this channel, were narrated like this one , by You. The humor, the sarcastic wit and your comedic acting got me sucked in from the beginning. Why aren't you doing more videos? Your humor reminded me of people in my hometown, New York City. Yes, I enjoy shawn and ms. littlefield(?) on Trek Central, too. But I like your humorous, sarcastic take on Star Trek subjects and Look forward to seeing your videos the most.
Thanks so much for the compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed :D The credit belongs to the whole team; the more the researchers research, editors edit and writers write, the more I get to waffle. :P
I thought perhaps fasted impulse . We have seen in other movies like generations. Stellar events can effect subspace . And force ships to go around. ( Stellar cartography scene). One star effects a star sector .
Bahahaha love it.
Was it the Romulan star or the Hobus star? I thought the deal behind it was because it was a star further away that wasn't an issue until the explosion went into subspace?
It was indeed Hobus that went up, and not the Romulan star.
I honestly am ok with the design, even if it doesn't make much sense. Don't get me wrong, it's an unconventional craft designed to handle a very unconventional mission. But it honestly echoes a few underlying questions about Federation ship designs.
1. Why the lack of consistency? Earth's Starfleet has its own designs, as do the ships of other planets. While things with an inherant Starfleet design are often just straight up called "Federation Tech", asthetics seem to vary quite severely in spite of this from culture to culture.
2. Why does it always fall to Starfleet to tackle the problems of the quadrant? The Federation has MANY member worlds, but we RARELY see ships from other member worlds. In fact, how many Vulcan ships have ever appeared on screen before Enterprise?
Additionally, were there really not enough ships between all member worlds to help evacuate? This seems very improbable.
3. There's no ship since which has had any of the design ques of the Jellyfish. Sure, it could just be highly specialized for Red Matter transport. But you would think any number of design elements would appear elsewhere post-Romulan Supernova.
Very definition of ironic… this video was interrupted by a Fleet Command ad and that ad showed none other than Spock’s Jellyfish ship lol. As I refuse to give Google money for TH-cam Red or whatever the fuck it’s called now.
Ther design is nicer and feels in keeping with the designs for the Vulcan ships in Enterprise.
Vulcan ships in ENT were all gimbled.
The Vulcan ship design philosophy has always fascinated me because of that weirdly unique look. :P
the first ever propulsion system to be fuelled solely by JJ Abrams lens-flares.
I missed every single one of the cake references... and I'm not going to look it up either.
Good video though.
We should have a video about the uss curry
Well the jellyfish if you look at it it does kind of follow the 22nd century geometry of Vulcan ships so there is still a connective lineage I just think it's stupid that it spins
Did anyone ever posit the idea that it was the fault of the q continuum that the romulans star went supernova? From what I recall from Voyager, that's kind of how it went.
I doubt anyone else other than Drachinifel has done a video on U.S.S. Olympia.
I've never played Star trek command. I almost want to so I can make a ship called
Hiabachi maru
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JarJar Trek and Kurtztrek don’t count.
That ship ran on JarJar stupidity reactor which used a Ruin Johnson and A$$hole Kurtzman annihilation reactor for power production.
The JJ ST films were all stupid full stop so glad it's a different universe from the prime time line that's the JJ franchise only saving grace .
Which movie was this from?
Lens flare the movie
THIS ship! Is but one of the Star Trek Online ships, that I've ALWAYS suspected that you have to be WHITER than WONDER BREAD to be able to actually have a chance of you know, ACQUIRING IT!
It honestly didn’t make any sense both to send a one man ship but we know it was to invoke Spock saving the day in wrath of Kahn because Abrams can’t be bothered to do anything but derivation. but on its face, the ship really shouldn’t have been one manned, it should have had engineers, scientists, and a backup plan, systems, pilot, etc. to ensure success. It didn’t need to be a tiny ship, as we know Spock gave the calculations for the HMS Bounty to go into timewarp TWICE, why that couldn’t happen again to save the Hobus Star doesn’t hash with cannon (yet another reason… SORRY SORRY!!!) okay but the design - it’s I guess protecting the core from attack with the spinning? Idk it doesn’t seem adequate. Not in the same lore universe that has a zero manned ship ten times the size of the enterprise (vengeance) okay sorry
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