Mang0 and Hbox "hating" eachother is one of my favorite bro-ships ever. They are endless entertainment with how much they make fun of each other but also both know its all in good fun
It’s been really cool to see them just mature and develop a mutual respect, despite their issues with each other, while both carrying the torch for the old generation.
There's a lot of things he could get roasted for, but I think stuff like that aren't included because they can be malicious, mean, spiteful, however you want to put it.
i think when you go towards that route, your actually seeing leffen as a person more than just him being dumb as a well known competitive player for a nintendo all star fighting video game... and that route gets deep, too deep for just for fun entertainment banter as a stream idea... (the streaming vs minimum wage jobs doesnt even compare, showing the magnitude of damage lol)
Hungrybox admitting to not knowing shit about Melee to go with Mango's joke about Leffen's bias against Marth is doubly hilarious when you tune in to Hungrybox streams and hear just how fucking *mean* HBox is when he talks about Melee characters lmao.
I think it's also hilarious that the normally hyperactive and loud on stream Hungrybox is playing the straightman to an overly sarcastic and riled up Mango when he's usually more chill and blunt on his streams.
I was gonna say I expected the higher pitched guys to bottom and lower pitched guys to top, but my own low voice is an exception to that stereotype so nvm
@@vzreo wait so the new narrative is now leffen isnt actually a pos but hes faking it Get your story straight man lmao Hes either a dick on stream because hes a dick or he isnt, cant be both
@@relaxingred2090 You spittin', although maybe he's got a point. I've never had to put every ounce of my energy into not being a bland, soulless, worthless mound of dog shit at all times, so maybe Leff's got one over on us.
They're such a good A-B personality type duo. Mango the talker, HBox with the gruff little adlibs and nods to the camera. They kinda give me a Penn and Teller vibe honestly
@@anenemystand5582 "I'll never take being compared to Penn and Teller as anything but a complement. Those who dislike them are usually absolute knobs and constantly wrong." ftfy
I think it's cool to see the progression of their relationship, there was a point where they really did seem to hate each other but Mang0 probably just got shit faced and forgot, then convinced Hbox to get shit faced with him and he forgot too
@@IHarleyWin I think hbox matured, mang0 too but he is still pretty shitty to Juan. People act like he isn’t and that it’s all jokes but mang0 really can’t seem to just bury the hatchet and express any sort of appreciation for hbox beyond the fact that he plays melee and hasn’t quit
@@HieronymousLex Eh, Mang0's just not that kinda guy, you know? He doesn't openly show affection/respect like that, especially to someone as huge of a rival as Juan, much too macho. Him constantly digging/joking around with Juan, even going to sports games with him, is telling that he doesn't hate him and, as hard as Mang0 would try to deny it, maybe even respects him a little bit, hehe
@@HieronymousLex Mang0 has matured like 10% while HBox 90%. Mang0 cant stand hBox because he has been Mang0 hard stopping since some years till recently where Mang0 has gotten better at the Jiggly match. Also it is attributed to Hbox being do8ng something else. Mang0 plays melee as if his life depends on it
the footage of them at a basketball game together popping off was amazing, love how far they have come. especially seeing mangos kid in the shot was real wholesome:)
id bet money that a good chunk of them hadnt touched ult for more than maybe a couple weeks at most, and yet they still all knew it was a pretty fucked up tier list lol. sometimes, an opinion is so utterly incorrect that you can just...sense it.
wow. they actually did find a chemistry that really works here. mango seeming more comfortable in front of skit cameras and hbox using his deadpan occasional quip
I LOVE Toph's laugh haha the way it lingers so long and you realize while he's laughing "Yeah that IS pretty stupid, huh?" It really speaks and resonates to your soul on how absurd whatever you're hearing truly is.
@@itsbmeGaming saying twitch chat makes anything better means you have the humor levels of a toddler, they just spam the same 1 word to try and get noticed. Cringe asf
Context: This is a side event/comedy skit at a tourney, where players do group projects and present them. They're just poking fun at friends/colleagues. Leffen isn't a war criminal or anything. Check the whole segment with all the presentations th-cam.com/video/KGKp49BcLvw/w-d-xo.html The background song is "Kingdom Trial" from Chrono Trigger btw
@@GuiltlessGear I don't know that I would agree with the phrase "rightful so". Wobbles neither invented wobbling, nor was he the person who used it the most. It received that name after Wobbles demonstrated its strong viability in NCT2 back in 2006, but he wasn't even CLOSE to the biggest abuser of the technique. He didn't *refuse* to wobble - it was a legal strategy when he was playing and it would have been dumb for him to not use the tools available to him - but the fact that it's named after him is more of just an odd historical affect than an actual reflection of his playstyle. Other ICs mains like ChuDat and Nintendude used wobbling WAY more than he did. Wobbles's playstyle tended to lean more on complex and/or flashy chaingrabs - most of his "iconic" games involved him using the grab>pummel>d-throw>nana-regrab combo, or some even more complex dysync chaingrab combos.
0:12 seeing that clip kinda made me think that they probably "hate" each other because it's their brand to do so. They're both successful content creators and top players, I'd bet that they know what they're doing
The issue I think is people see old videos from like 2009-2013 and think that's how they are now. They were just dumb teenagers like how I was a dumb kid growing up. They're adults now and aren't like they were back then. At worst Mango just hates how Hbox plays, but as a person you can tell they grew to like each other over the years and are friends.
Not the Mang0 Hbox doubles pairing I expected but it’s even better The two really are like brothers now where they’ll make fun of each other and act like they still hate the other but deep down they don’t feel any real hate anymore, maybe just some occasional moments where one gets on the nerves of the other lol
These two have come along way, mango is still mango for like 3 decades but hungrybox looks more composed and takes the making fun of well, good for him.
Them watching the game together was really cute lmao. Also this is easily in my top 5 favorite smash summit bits, and I’ve been around over the years to watch every summit ^-^
Kind of incompetency and not seeing the big picture. The puppy's going to have another decade to live if its owner isn't a moron. Smash? Not quite sure.
Fun fact: I was at smash con this year, and after melee finals i went to hooters with my friend group and both hbox and mango were there LMAO (mango was drunk as shit)
By the thumbnal I thought Hbox and Mango where having a sick rap battle and as soon as Leffen walked in they decided to diss him together. It wasn't that far from the truth actually.
Mango looks like your dad that your mom divorced because he wouldn’t stop partying and Hbox looks like her new man who is trying to relate real hard to you as a stepdad.
yeah....Mang0 is still the only person of the 5 gods that cries about being the goat. he needs to say it because he is trying to convince himself. not to take away from his feats, but at the end of the day, hbox's overall record is just as impressive, and done with a shitty puff, not fox. hbox is the goat, he just doesnt need to say it. mang0 said it himself, "ive never had a real job." mang0 needs melee to survive. melee needed hbox to survive. that is goat. mang0 is fragile.
Mango calling himself the throat goat and asking for a banana at the end there got me😂
😐
@@jsmithers. you mean 😮🍆
@@jsmithers. BIG BANANA
He doesn't just ask for a banana, he DEMANDS the banana
This absolutely killed me lmao
Mang0 and Hbox "hating" eachother is one of my favorite bro-ships ever. They are endless entertainment with how much they make fun of each other but also both know its all in good fun
It wasn't always that way, but it is nice to see them getting along more.
It’s been really cool to see them just mature and develop a mutual respect, despite their issues with each other, while both carrying the torch for the old generation.
longest tsundere arc of all time
I too wanna see them fuck.
Cute, but Mango actually does not like him as a person. Lol
A perfect example of what happens when the teacher forces the groups for the assignment
More like when the teacher doesn't assign groups, and you look back from your desk to see your friend grinning.
I like to imagine leffen was part of the group but since he didn’t do any of the work the other two changed the project to be about him
@@_qwerty_3545 💀
@@_qwerty_3545 "fuck you losers i got some guilty gear to play"
*Mango sneakily changes the title from hbox sucks to leffen sucks*
Tru
Mang0 and Hbox need to do more together their a great comedic pair
sorry, they're* :(
It's not even about any chemistry. Mang0 in any setting with Hbox is just gold.
@@Pushy_Potato both are correct, ya goofball
@@garrettlee8206 “both are correct” is so funny
@@garrettlee8206 While their comedy is their own, that's not how the use of "their" fits into the context of the sentence. Both are not right :(
how did him trashtalking M2K and then getting 6-0'd by him not make it to the list
there was just so much material not everything could fit
one of my favorite memories of melee :)
Top 3 easy, though that minimum wage shit deserved an actual punch in the face.
There's a lot of things he could get roasted for, but I think stuff like that aren't included because they can be malicious, mean, spiteful, however you want to put it.
i think when you go towards that route, your actually seeing leffen as a person more than just him being dumb as a well known competitive player for a nintendo all star fighting video game...
and that route gets deep, too deep for just for fun entertainment banter as a stream idea...
(the streaming vs minimum wage jobs doesnt even compare, showing the magnitude of damage lol)
Hungrybox admitting to not knowing shit about Melee to go with Mango's joke about Leffen's bias against Marth is doubly hilarious when you tune in to Hungrybox streams and hear just how fucking *mean* HBox is when he talks about Melee characters lmao.
The juxtaposition of Mang0’s top high pitch voice against Hungrybox’s bottom low pitch voice is something else
I think it's also hilarious that the normally hyperactive and loud on stream Hungrybox is playing the straightman to an overly sarcastic and riled up Mango when he's usually more chill and blunt on his streams.
@@heartnet40 Juan is always super chill irl, he's just on content machine mode on his stream.
@@heartnet40 yeah I actually really liked that dynamic.
They’re like the mythbusters lmao
I was gonna say I expected the higher pitched guys to bottom and lower pitched guys to top, but my own low voice is an exception to that stereotype so nvm
Joseph and Juan are best friends, but Mang0 and Hbox hate eachother so much that it cancels out, leaving us with masterpieces like this
Dont call him Joseph
@@HKip Gods are people too.
@@bacaw2856 Hard ass bar
Hbox is the guy in the group project that did all the work while mang0 is the extrovert that presents the whole thing.
I used to be a "ill do all the work if i dont have to talk" type guy, so accurate
It still blows my mind that leffen thought streaming was harder than a minimum wage job lol.
Maybe for him it is, faking his personality all day gets him exhausted
@@vzreo wait so the new narrative is now leffen isnt actually a pos but hes faking it
Get your story straight man lmao
Hes either a dick on stream because hes a dick or he isnt, cant be both
shows that he never actually worked in his life
@@vzreo If you ever worked a minimum wage job you put on an even harder fake personality when talking to customers.
@@relaxingred2090
You spittin', although maybe he's got a point. I've never had to put every ounce of my energy into not being a bland, soulless, worthless mound of dog shit at all times, so maybe Leff's got one over on us.
They are the two remaining OG gods still playing at a high competitive level, so its a joy to see them do funny shit like this.
M2K isn't playing anymore?
@@hugoclarke3284 I think he’s focusing on coaching and writing his book nowadays.
@@hugoclarke3284 No he is done
@@hugoclarke3284 he's a coach nowadays, and is still writing his book.
@@hugoclarke3284 If he enters a tournament nowadays, it's just for fun, so not really
Don’t call me Joseph
😂😂😂😂
You get timed out for using the name in his twitch chat lol
@@nihatnihat8264 really?
Ok "Anthony"
@@gratin6228 ok gratin
Hbox looking like Mango's bodyguard the whole presentation lol
“Get me a banana”
-Mango 2022
The throat buster
0:46 Nearly 10 seconds of uninterrupted Toph laugh. Absolutely delightful.
Started the engine on him lmao
woody woodpecker
the longest single burst of machine gun toph laughter i think i've ever heard
lotta ammo used right there
Dudes laugh is hideous.
that laugh was so long it felt like an 0td
They're such a good A-B personality type duo. Mango the talker, HBox with the gruff little adlibs and nods to the camera. They kinda give me a Penn and Teller vibe honestly
Or Jay and Silent Bob
And then when hbox needs to step in he says like two words
I'd never take being compared to Penn and Teller as anything but an insult. Absolute knobs constantly wrong
Forsure, if you ever watched mythbusters its the same dynamic. Not friends in their personal life but respects eachothers work life.
@@anenemystand5582 "I'll never take being compared to Penn and Teller as anything but a complement. Those who dislike them are usually absolute knobs and constantly wrong."
ftfy
I think it's cool to see the progression of their relationship, there was a point where they really did seem to hate each other but Mang0 probably just got shit faced and forgot, then convinced Hbox to get shit faced with him and he forgot too
I think they both just matured.
@@IHarleyWin I think hbox matured, mang0 too but he is still pretty shitty to Juan. People act like he isn’t and that it’s all jokes but mang0 really can’t seem to just bury the hatchet and express any sort of appreciation for hbox beyond the fact that he plays melee and hasn’t quit
@@HieronymousLex Eh, Mang0's just not that kinda guy, you know? He doesn't openly show affection/respect like that, especially to someone as huge of a rival as Juan, much too macho. Him constantly digging/joking around with Juan, even going to sports games with him, is telling that he doesn't hate him and, as hard as Mang0 would try to deny it, maybe even respects him a little bit, hehe
@@HieronymousLex mangoTYPERS tell me more mister leddit mangoTYPERS
@@HieronymousLex Mang0 has matured like 10% while HBox 90%.
Mang0 cant stand hBox because he has been Mang0 hard stopping since some years till recently where Mang0 has gotten better at the Jiggly match. Also it is attributed to Hbox being do8ng something else. Mang0 plays melee as if his life depends on it
the footage of them at a basketball game together popping off was amazing, love how far they have come. especially seeing mangos kid in the shot was real wholesome:)
“I am the throat goat give me a banana”-mango 2022
Mango and hbox have always been the best duo in melee since the beginning. Absolutely iconic always
Id like to agree but moky and zains dynamic is too cute
The visceral reactions from everyone at the ultimate tier list was amazing
id bet money that a good chunk of them hadnt touched ult for more than maybe a couple weeks at most, and yet they still all knew it was a pretty fucked up tier list lol. sometimes, an opinion is so utterly incorrect that you can just...sense it.
0:46 Toph just missed a gentleman and hit a falcon jab with that laugh
wow. they actually did find a chemistry that really works here. mango seeming more comfortable in front of skit cameras and hbox using his deadpan occasional quip
I love how Mang0 calls HBox Juan, but the second HBox tries to call Mang0 by his first name he claps back and says no.
This is making me realize how weird it is that 3 of the 5 gods have names that start with J.
I LOVE Toph's laugh haha the way it lingers so long and you realize while he's laughing "Yeah that IS pretty stupid, huh?" It really speaks and resonates to your soul on how absurd whatever you're hearing truly is.
Agreed toph’s laugh is really great especially when he’s with scar
"I have 3 puppies & I child" couple have been #1 or #2 and Mang0 didn't even know it
What makes this great is that you can see the Twitch chat next to Toph losing it.
No
@@muzzypwnyou Wow, what an elegant and sophisticated use of the English language.
@@itsbmeGaming saying twitch chat makes anything better means you have the humor levels of a toddler, they just spam the same 1 word to try and get noticed. Cringe asf
@@muzzypwnyou No
@@itsbmeGaming That was clearly French
It’s amazing how mango can wear a colorful checkered shirt, basketball shorts, flip flops, and to top it off a leather jacket. Truly impressive
Machine gun ass laugh, god DAMN
The Chrono Trigger Trial music fits so well lol. So glad the melee scene is still alive and kickin'
I thought no one else noticed it, glad to see more Chrono trigger lovers :)
it's cool to see the two remaining gods interacting. So much respect to them both for staying on top of their game for so long.
Mang0 put more work into this than any presentation he had in high school
Context: This is a side event/comedy skit at a tourney, where players do group projects and present them. They're just poking fun at friends/colleagues. Leffen isn't a war criminal or anything. Check the whole segment with all the presentations th-cam.com/video/KGKp49BcLvw/w-d-xo.html The background song is "Kingdom Trial" from Chrono Trigger btw
Counter-conspiracy: Leffen is a douche and Hbox and Mango are using this opportunity to get a jab at him.
leffen IS a war criminal tho
Leffen isn’t a war criminal but I want to see him tried as one to see what he’d say in defense. It’d be a fascinating listen
I saw the thumbnail while scrolling and thought HBox was Eminem at first lol
dude same
The "give me a banana" just straight murdered me
SOMEBODY GET THIS MAN A BANANA!
Warms my deepest *cockles* to see them resolve their differences and come together for such a just cause.
Also huge fan of presentation contest meta.
Cockles (I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry but cackles makes you sound like a 60s cartoon villain)
@@Caleb-zl4wk
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does anyone else just have this come into their feed every couple months and just stop to appreciate it?
The Falco and Richter as top 2 is something i think about like once a week LMAOOOO
esam
Picachu busted
Go Boxing Ring
How many times a week do you think about boxing ring
To be fair you do say it better than most
Toph laughing like a car failing to start 💀
0:48 Goodness That Laugh! 😂
We need more Mang0 and Hbox, these two are Great together.
Hands down the greatest moment in Smash history.
Lmfao not only did they play chrono trigger courtroom music but mango was funny af. This needs to continue.
The character difficulty ranking was even funnier than the tier list. When are "Johns" gonna get replaced with "Leffs"?
This is the most big brained thing I've ever read about Smash Bros, someone Knight this wonderful person.
I vote for new "Johns" being "Leffs" it's so fucking funny thinking about it...
we didnt wait for wobbles to retire to call wobbling what it is(and rightly so), so i second this motion
@@GuiltlessGear I don't know that I would agree with the phrase "rightful so".
Wobbles neither invented wobbling, nor was he the person who used it the most. It received that name after Wobbles demonstrated its strong viability in NCT2 back in 2006, but he wasn't even CLOSE to the biggest abuser of the technique.
He didn't *refuse* to wobble - it was a legal strategy when he was playing and it would have been dumb for him to not use the tools available to him - but the fact that it's named after him is more of just an odd historical affect than an actual reflection of his playstyle.
Other ICs mains like ChuDat and Nintendude used wobbling WAY more than he did. Wobbles's playstyle tended to lean more on complex and/or flashy chaingrabs - most of his "iconic" games involved him using the grab>pummel>d-throw>nana-regrab combo, or some even more complex dysync chaingrab combos.
0:12 seeing that clip kinda made me think that they probably "hate" each other because it's their brand to do so. They're both successful content creators and top players, I'd bet that they know what they're doing
Hbox and Mango worked well together honestly, Hbox being like the straight man to Mang0's funny commentary throughout
Yup, Mango "hates" Hungrybox
Absolutely despises him.
The issue I think is people see old videos from like 2009-2013 and think that's how they are now. They were just dumb teenagers like how I was a dumb kid growing up. They're adults now and aren't like they were back then. At worst Mango just hates how Hbox plays, but as a person you can tell they grew to like each other over the years and are friends.
@@itsbmeGaming mang0 doesn’t like HBox, they have deep respect for each other though
@@sohn7767 They have actually hung out. I doubt Mango would spend time with him he didn't like him at all.
Not the Mang0 Hbox doubles pairing I expected but it’s even better
The two really are like brothers now where they’ll make fun of each other and act like they still hate the other but deep down they don’t feel any real hate anymore, maybe just some occasional moments where one gets on the nerves of the other lol
Mango: "I got 3 puppies.... and a child"
Dude on beanbag: *Aggressive Car engine noises*
These two have come along way, mango is still mango for like 3 decades but hungrybox looks more composed and takes the making fun of well, good for him.
The immediate “Don’t call me Joseph” sets the tone.
this only emphasizes my desire that someday they go from "hating" eachother to outright loving eachother
i thought my audio was fucked up when toph laughed the first time
When Mang0 and Hbox agree on something you know your opinion is bad.
"GET ME A BANANA"
Yoooo Fallout in a melee comment section?!
@@ustuber1362 I know right!?
3:12 Juan losing his shit here always gets me
0:48 why is nobody talking about how crazy that laugh is 😂😂
Bruh...That Smash Ultimate tier list HURTS WTF?! Leffen is becoming Salem V2
Edit: 250 Likes in just 1 hour? Well this is New to me
Fr fr, even for early meta that tierlist was ass
Where did Leffen get the intel? Who knows
Tho it does make you question what he was smoking 🚬 🤔
That tier list came before Salem's weird rant lol. It's 5 years old.
this was like the very first month tbf. I remember cuz I was there lol.
@@qaasi95 My Bad I started Ultimate at 2021 but even for the first tier list...this is stupid...Don't you agree?
Leffen’s got an awful lot of johns for a top player
Them watching the game together was really cute lmao.
Also this is easily in my top 5 favorite smash summit bits, and I’ve been around over the years to watch every summit ^-^
i really love the shot you chose for the thumbnail.
The cloud and horse collab is truly one of the collabs of collabs’ time
Leffen skipping a tournament for a puppy is actually a rare Leffen W
Is it because of the puppy or because he didn't go to the tournament?
He didn’t want to go so it was a John
@@deadeyed2454 i assume both
Rare moments of humanity lmao
@@Khadeezy Have you gone to another continent for a tournament?
Kind of incompetency and not seeing the big picture. The puppy's going to have another decade to live if its owner isn't a moron. Smash? Not quite sure.
"I'll be playing strive in 2023" proceeds to win Evo.
3:17 leffen looking like Will from Stranger Things
😂
The main protagonist and main antagonist working together to defeat a greater threat
Comedy duo in the making, also the thumbnail is pure gold
The trial music from Chrono Trigger is a great touch.
"Don't call me Joseph"
"So you're probably wondering what the fuck me and Juan are doing here"
THIS LMAO
Fun fact: I was at smash con this year, and after melee finals i went to hooters with my friend group and both hbox and mango were there LMAO
(mango was drunk as shit)
Damn where at? I live near mang0 and have never once seen him in public.
The Smash Doc was a huge moment in Melee history, but we must never forget this piece of art.
By the thumbnal I thought Hbox and Mango where having a sick rap battle and as soon as Leffen walked in they decided to diss him together.
It wasn't that far from the truth actually.
Music: Chrono Trigger COURT theme
Video Thumbnail: The duo doing the “Objection” pose
Coincidence?
This is perfect
"I am not only the GOAT, I am the throat GOAT. GIVE ME A BANANA!" -Mango
The Chrono Trigger trial music juxtaposes this so well LMAO
The music being The Trial from chrono trigger adds so much to this
The mango hbox chemistry is actually hilarious. Please make more
Toph's fucking boat rudder ass laugh at "And a child." murdered me
Mango looks like your dad that your mom divorced because he wouldn’t stop partying and Hbox looks like her new man who is trying to relate real hard to you as a stepdad.
that ultimate tier list should have been number 0, what an atrocity
That Ultimate tier list was something else. Doc in C above Mario, Palu, and G&W.
"Give me a banana" he was ready to prove himself to the court.
The only thing that can unite two people who hate each other is a mutual enemy.
Beautiful.
"and a child" was fucking hilarious
This was spectacular make them do more of these!
The Team-Up of the century
This just popped up on my timeline and at first glance I thought mango was hanging out with Eminem
I laughed way to hard at this.
Craziest crossover ever!!! Loved it so much lol
these melee gods "hating" each other is the best bro ship i have ever seen in gaming history. these two will never get old
2:15 btw sonic is below ganondorf
Mang0 and HBox grew up. Leffen is still stuck at 19.
Would genuinely love to see you say that next time mango's told hes an alchoholic and a terrible father
yeah....Mang0 is still the only person of the 5 gods that cries about being the goat. he needs to say it because he is trying to convince himself. not to take away from his feats, but at the end of the day, hbox's overall record is just as impressive, and done with a shitty puff, not fox. hbox is the goat, he just doesnt need to say it.
mang0 said it himself, "ive never had a real job." mang0 needs melee to survive. melee needed hbox to survive. that is goat. mang0 is fragile.
0:48 bro accidentally swallowed the particle accelerator 💀💀
Every time I see Mang0 he looks more and more like a Mang0 fan cosplaying as Mang0.
My favorite writing trope, the hero and the villain teaming up to take down an even bigger villain
The toph laugh at 0:48 is maybe the strongest its ever been
Hungry box dressing like a Pokémon gym trainer
the funniest smash dudes when brought together
"Dominated! But I treasure your friendship"