@@AJJJ-co2vd I'm well aware I've got CPTSD and planning on going no contact soon enough if this housing issue gets resolved soon. At this point though I am seriously considering just moving into my car till then.
Yup, that's how I be feeling. On the other hand, if your alone and don't have a woman, the flip side of that is you are free. 50 o/o of marriages end in divorce, and it's the women who bring the divorces. There are tons of videos on U tube exposing women's true nature. How they use and manipulate men. How once they get married they stop having sex, turn into insufferable bitches, and also into fat pigs. It's really common.
That spark from my 20s just left me sadly. Im now 35 and feel ive realized how reality and things in general work. I was naive in my 20s and ignorance really is bliss. The excitement of learning new things combined with the energy i used to have was amazing. I dont want to live forever so im just enjoying myself the best i can.
I think thats the story thruout history really, the masses of gullible people fed lies about the world and controlled by the few greedy. Once you see whatever pigeon hole you've been set in, the walls close in fast.
Ironically I am 30 now and have basically gotten to the point in life im ok with being alone. I work a boring job in government, haven't had a GF since 2021, and haven't even tried since 2021. If I'm not working I'm either at home playing video games, eating or sleeping.
31 here. You just described a majority of self-sufficient single men. I'm investing to become a rich man later in life and I'll probably start a family later down the road with a young woman.
you are lucky you do not have to produce anything in life to make a living, thanks to real men working in the industries like Oil Agriculture and construction.
It's the job part I can't come to terms with. I'd rather be dead than work a job like that. I've always been self employed and low income. I quit my freelancing job to mow lawns, I am much happier doing that and it is very flexible. But work will never bring meaning to my life and I still resent the time that is lost and dealing with difficult people.
@@bigchief2331 I think it's called money ? Children and women like to spend, all women. I could have given my ex wife 300 K and she would still have wanted more. If a man is broke, he may as well give up on the aspiration to a family life, but many realise actually that that's not for them. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with living an idependent lifestyle, but this is strangely stigmatised for men.
At 32, I started gym for the first time and made my first 80K in one year. This is the best era of my life! We are nowhere near old gentlemen! I'm 36 now, and I'm in the best physical, financial, and mental state I've ever been in. Don't hit the wall when it's still so damn far away!
About to turn 32. I've been running nearly every day since the beginning of this year and lost 25kg. I am quite proud about that. I am fitter than I ever have been. But financially and mentally, not doing well at all. But i don't really care, money just doesn't motivate me. I like my freedom and hate taking orders and being 'on the clock'.
@bigchief2331 i get it. I hated that too. I started a lawncare business at 28 and made less than minimum wage the first 4 years working 8 days a week. The money got better after everything started getting paid off and got better workers. Even though I make my own hours, I still feel like I'm always at work. I miss paycheck to paycheck life most days lolol. But good for you! I wish I could run, I'm just beefy from weights, I count my job as cardio lol
I don't know any men who are dating after 30. I turned 30 and it was like suddenly I understood how I was being used and manipulated by women and I just couldn't find the effort to try with them anymore..
I just keep getting the image of that bird video, where the male bird builds this fancy nest and shows this fancy colored trash he found... and the lady bird arrives and he does his little song and dance and she is like: Nah you're not chad enough *flies away*. He tears apart the nest in sexual frustration. Yep, that's life in a nutshell. lol
What can you do living on a pittance that is benefits?; you can’t afford to fund hobbies like Photography, Railway Modelling etc, you can’t hire a prostitute.
Also, I recommend every man watching this and even the guy that made the video to take a long break from the internet. There’s so much bullshit on here and on tv that is totally irrelevant, and it makes you think that there’s no hope. Get out in nature and you’ll realise how pathetic it all is.
100%. My biggest struggle is to get off X and Instagram and Reddit. Wasting time going down rabbit holes instead of living each moment of your life and appreciating the texture of the real thing in the flesh.
Lack of worthwhile friendships at this age (45). Friends have fallen away into dull routines, stopped living, unwilling to get out of the precious comfort zone, no hobbies/interests, just drinking at some run down bar. Alcoholism is disturbingly common. I don't care how I'm judged, while I can get away with it I'll choose the company of guys mid 20s -early 30s. Being around old men makes me feel like an old man. You only control your own attitude/behaviour, not that of others.
I'm 32 next month. Totally lost interest in life. Food doesn't taste right or bring any joy anymore. I can't meet people, everyone seems closed off and unwilling to put in effort to make friends or plan activities. Perhaps they are too busy, this system we live under really does have a way of sucking all joy from life and reducing us to hollow husks. I just don't care about anything anymore. Time seems to be passing quicker than ever and nothing ever changes. I go for my daily walks/runs which help somewhat, but I hate being stuck at home feeling lonely and lost all the time. I want connection with other people and to feel like my existence matters, but I just can't find it. The world is nothing like it was when I was growing up, and everything just seems to get worse with every passing year. Not sure I really want to hang around much longer but I have a small hope that things will change for the better. I'd love to see this horrible system crumble and we go back to living a much more natural and fulfilling way of life.
Nothing will get better. In fact, it's gonna get worse and worse. In addition to that, you'll get older and prices will only go up. You can't escape this. It's inevitable.
That's by design everyone feels like this not just you realise it now society is ran by corrupt elites covid was to turn everyone into zombies by making the online world more real then the real world it worked Elon musk just made robots now that people will have as friends and be in there homes I'm not joking look it up
The strange thing is we have it so much better than countless ancestors who were completely resigned to war, work, disease or some other devil and yet there is so much unhappiness.
There's something truly out of sync in the world right now...49 here, ive lost interest in everything just short of keeping my body alive.... after the 90s, life just became off, not as fun ..now it feels like a soulless simulation just going through the motions. I still had alot of fun in my 30s, my 40s is when i felt the big change...
Because we keep opening ourselves up to people in hope, and keep getting conditioned to believe we are not good enough. If nothing I do or have is good enough, what’s the point of trying harder? I’d rather be lonely and peaceful.
Well at 35 i dont know what to do anymore. I dont have a partner. I cant afford anything. I cant get stable employment. I dunno what to do anymore. I'm irish in Australia and nothing has worked out for me here to. I want to be rich and successful. I want my own apartment. I dunno what to do anymore.
Sorry to hear that my friend! I’ve been through similarly tough times. While I don’t have any direct suggestions, I do know that things turn around if you keep trying. Maybe starting with the simple goal of stability and building from there might help you gain a semblance of control and sense of achievement. Wishing you the best! 😊🙏🏻
I am 35, Irish too. I would recommend reading The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle. I am still reading it but it focuses on human flourishing. One interesting thing that i learned from it was forming good habits by tricking your mind. Going cold turkey on bad habits wont work. So substitute those bad habits with habits that still give you dopamine but are things that are more productive.
My life STARTED at 32... I finally GOT SOBER after TWELVE YEARS of DAILY DRINKING! I lost 75 pounds in a year. I paid off over $50,000 in 8 months. I saved up and bought a HOUSE by 33. Renovated said house in the next year and a half, and by 35 I had a SECOND house and now have the first one as a rental. I own my own business now and I've made $136k in a 12 month period. I could spend twenty minutes listing out my accomplishments. I haven't given up, what are you talking about?
Well done that's really great. I am about to turn 32 and can't see myself achieving any of that, although i've lost 25kg this year which I am proud about. What business if you don't mind?? I am doing garden care/mowing but I don't see myself ever making that kind of money without killing my body or dealing with the hassles of employees and extra vehicle etc. I like the flexibility of this business but I can't do it flat out and wouldn't want to. Really would like to start some sort of online business.
@@raymond_sycamore I'm convinced that such awesome comeback stories like yours happen only in America. I've seen some of those and the guy describing it is always an American. In other parts of the world such things are not possible. Maybe it's because due to the nations affluence or sth. Idk
This video is a bit depressing but I have to remind myself that for me, I don't really fall into this camp because my 20s basically sucked and wasn't until my late twenties heading into my 30s where my life has been turning around. Sure I've missed out on the prime of my life youth wise but I've never felt better both physically and mentally and my view of the future, though challenging, is far more optimistic than ever before. For context, I've suffered with severe mental health issues most of my life so all I've really known is silent suffering and pessimism. Stark contrast to the person I am now. Only way is up for me 😊
the most important thing in life is to have realistic and sensible goals. Like to do an apprenticeship and then later to study a proper subject to make a career. Therefore proper planning is the most impontant thing in life so you don't waste your time and money.
While all of this is right, it kinda sidesteps the main reason - men between 30 to say 45 have had to react to an unprecedented number of societal changes in the last few years with no guidance on how to properly adjust. This is stuff like: 1) Increasing feminism and thr changes it brings to the workplace, how to manage relationships with modern women, and what our role is moving forwarda as a man. I am not saying feminism is bad. All I am saying is things changed, and we didn't get a chance to adjust 2) A changing media landscape that somewhat demonizes men or masculine elements. For example, we don't really have Stallones and Arnolds to look up to. We have to accept feminized men or even portrayls of men as evil in movies now, and if we push back, we are called mean and closed minded. Women seem to be getting the characters they want now (which is great), but our characters and heroes have to "take a step back" or be readjusted for consumption 3) Severe economic changes. Esg, diversity requirements, outsourcing. All which may be good, but all which mainly asked men to adjust or give up some of their advantages Given these drastic changes, we have seen a rise in negative portrayls like "alpha male" role models or guys wanting to mgtow
Men don’t give up at 30, you just realise you haven’t got the same energy you used to have. You get wiser, and you should value health, and choose who you hang around with. In a way I think life improves. You have to keep evolving. We all have to grow up at some point, most men do not grow up. They stay as teenagers until they’re 60.
5 Decades ago by the age of 18 girls knew who they were supposed to marry, settle down and have a nice family. With that BIG, HUGE, ENORMOUS project in today Era, everybody was super obligated to just deal with the family. Men had to work hard, women had enough hard work raising children and keeping the house operational. In their spare time they were cooking cakes from raw material. The amount of obese people was less than .. 3%. ... BUT now... in this modern era, everybody is too "busy" pursuing a carreer, both male and females and since there was nothing cooked people swifted to ready-to eat food. So... obesity came and now more than 30% are aging super fast eating all supermarket preprocessed foodcrap. So... my point is that men are giving up because ... there have no obligation to NOT to give up. Most haven't established a steady relationship, haven't engaged or got married. Therefore ...without real-life responsibilities like babies that need resources ... men do not get the needed rush to try and chase nothing. Hope to find a good lady with purspose in life and everything will align sir. I will pray for you. Have a Good day.
I’m 52 and I’m the youngest I will ever be. Some things, mostly physical, are harder than they used to be. But others are a lot easier. People listen to you more and take you more seriously. You stop caring so much about other peoples’ opinion. With a bit of thought and effort you can look better than ever. Experience is under-rated. Ageing is a bit shit in a lot of ways, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
I'm 28 and all I want is to own my own sailboat one day. Before (and if I even) retire and become old and sick. I'm never gonna have a house anyway. And I don't really care about women anymore.
Having a career, taxes, mortgage, bills, responsibilities etc. is fine...the problem is it is far too much and out of control, it is dehumanizing, abnormal, unnatural, and destructive, to the human experience and to the world in general. When do we ever as a whole start to figure out how to get things right, or is that just not possible?
This is why you should try paragliding, skydiving, or any sort of adventure sport. Spend time outdoors. No two days are ever the same because life is a journey, not a destination.
I felt pretty young through my thirties when I was a wild and crazy merchant seaman. But then after the Gulf War when I started becoming annoyed with all of the drunks, having quit drinking myself, I decided to go to barber college at the age of forty to prepare myself for my old fogey job, where between haircuts when it’s slow you get to loaf in your well padded barber chair. That was a good fit and lasted for 20 years but it put four inches on my waistline which had to be lost when my A1C started getting too high. But I really gave up at 45 when I cancelled my wedding and decided to remain a bachelor thereafter.
I think for a lot, a big part after 30 is realizing you need to treat your body right, you can't get away with missing sleep, eating like crap, and barely exercising. I think practical things like that can fix a lot of problems men have after 30. The good news is you still have the potential to feel amazing. I feel better than I did in youth, but its due to fixing a lot of my bad habits the power of youth masked. I have to be intentional with getting good sleep, eating low carb, no sugar, high protein, walking and weight lifting (nothing crazy just 30-45 minutes a day of either). The processed foods and sugar destroy you man. Don't get me wrong things can still be hard with the work grind and responsibilities, but its in our best interest to try and find ways for ourselves to make it work. IDK if anything comes after so I'm going to treat this life as if its my only life I have. There are joys and amazing things that still get me excited that I try to keep alive alongside the work.
After I met Jesus, he changed me, I have more energy than in my 20’s. I now have purpose in my life which is my band and writing music with them, and have cultivated multiple other hobbies that I enjoy. Matthew 6:33, “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you” I’m basically experiencing it!
It's really interesting because my best friend turned 31 and 2 months later, he committed suicide. That was just before 2013 but he was into drugs and he couldn't find a woman but he was very intelligent and handsome.
Took me til 50, but I’m firmly there now. The wife, the job, kids, society, wore me out. I got nothing left to live for. Just waiting for death, which will be here soon.
If you're 'feeling old', you're probably not taking care of yourself / working out. I get that it's hard with everything else squeezing your time but if you had prioritised it in your 20's, you shouldn't be feeling or looking old. That's on you.
People really hate when i say im content with a simple life. I live alone in a studio apartment dont own any fancy stuff i put all my money in assets that generate income to free up as much time as possible.
The only ones that do are those who married the wrong person , usually a woman but don't have the balls to end the marriage so they just give up . Very sad .
@waynebrady7439 Ambition is the force that gets you into motion and keep you going.. It is also the thing thats make you stumble over your own feet if you don't pay attention.
Don’t waste your time pretending you’re old in your flipping 30’s, that’s absurd and lazy thinking. Take good care of yourself, don’t get married but have girlfriends, don’t let them get the best of you. I’m nearly 60 and I nearly died 3 years ago, enjoy life while your health is good, and stay as healthy as you can. . Make you your #1 priority your mental and physical health. Women are not logical, don’t bother to try reasoning with them. Respect yourself and they will respect you more. You can have a happy life!
I am a man of 50 I have not and will not give up on life, getting old is good means you have lived want to not get old only one way to do that and that's silly.
There is literally no problem, well few at any rate, which can't be improved by a big, fat, wad of cash. Unhappy in your job ? No problem, just quit and retrain. Unhappy in your marriage ? What you griping about ? Just divorce and buy an apartment.Worried about your health ? Just pay for the treatment and get it fixed. Want a personal trainer/personal fencing instructor.....Just generally unhappy ? Pay for a therapist who will, for that hourly sum, pretend to give a crap and offer up theoretical bullshit which, for a time anyway, may help you feel better. The problem for most men, basically, is lack of access to resources
A man doesn't come into his prime until about 45 to 50. Look at Sean Connery in James Bond! You don't need lots of money to be attractive to women. But you got to do a job and things in general that you love - and that you do first for yourself in non-selfish way (she wants you to make her feel ALIVE / EXCITED about life). You can do it. A woman wants you to LEAD her (takes a few months to learn the basic psychology of - then you're away). She wants you to be CONFIDENT (this is key). You can do it. A woman wants you to PROTECT her - body, mind and soul (should be able to do that from the get-go). To make her feel SAFE. You can do it. A woman wants you to contain her emotionally (she wants you to be her emotional rock). You can do it. A woman wants you to make her laugh and turn life playful, exciting and adventurous. You can do it. A woman wants you to really listen to her. Her. emotional landscape. But not too much either. You can do it. A woman wants you to enjoy understanding women and how to turn them on, body, mind and soul. You can do it. But ultimately for the sake of your wife. To really love your wife / future wife. Not as a way to manipulate women for s-x and / or your daft little ego. I learned all this during Covid. My life changed drastically. Other men can too. And within a few months every man can turn his life around quite significantly. And after a year or two considerably so. And then just keep on working on yourself - like a project.
@@JohnFrenchMSc But being this man is first for yourself! You become alive. It's about becoming like a Greek hero to achieve great things in life for yourself in non-narcissistic sense and then you can form great relationships with others, in particular, your spouse as a result. It's not about becoming like a Greek hero but developing your true personality. That part of you that loves humour, fun, play and adventure. It's about developing the part of you that others want to be lead by. It's about developing that part of you that is good at healing others (without being their therapist) and interested and curious in people (in particular your spouse). It's about developing your wisdom - for your own self-awareness in a positive sense, your understanding of people in general - but in particular of women. Which drives them crazy - in particular your spouse for you. And it's about knowledge of the world, culture and civilisation but without being corrupt or ambitious in a bad way. It's about having great s-x long-term with your spouse body, mind and soul. And the joy of seducing her. And the comfort of affectionate, non-seduction too. You GROW into this really big person, full of joy, life and love and achieving great things but in a non-narcissistic sense and accepting your flaws without crumbling. Best.
My husband about to be ex soon he is suffering from depression and doesn't take care of his body, diet, or mental health he is always unhappy and moody i cant stay and suffer with him or my kids anymore.
Help encourage him if you can, go with you and kids to local rec gym to swim, play ball, lift, etc. But encourage in a supportive manner not demeaning. If he is opposed find out why in a gentle manner and try to overcome the reason. One thing is for sure - being physically active is a habit and can be tough to form the habit with lack of support or previous experience to relate to. If he denies still then go with kids but ask every time if he would like to join. Eventually he may take you up on the offer
When you’re abused all your life and offered breadcrumbs of love instead of a meal for so long you lose hope of anything being different.
Wow.
Their is hope look up videos on narcissist and toxic families. Sometimes the best thing for your health is to leave
@@AJJJ-co2vd I'm well aware I've got CPTSD and planning on going no contact soon enough if this housing issue gets resolved soon. At this point though I am seriously considering just moving into my car till then.
@@mrStraker888 something something spoons and knives
Yup, that's how I be feeling. On the other hand, if your alone and don't have a woman, the flip side of that is you are free. 50 o/o of marriages end in divorce, and it's the women who bring the divorces. There are tons of videos on U tube exposing women's true nature. How they use and manipulate men. How once they get married they stop having sex, turn into insufferable bitches, and also into fat pigs. It's really common.
That spark from my 20s just left me sadly. Im now 35 and feel ive realized how reality and things in general work. I was naive in my 20s and ignorance really is bliss. The excitement of learning new things combined with the energy i used to have was amazing. I dont want to live forever so im just enjoying myself the best i can.
I think thats the story thruout history really, the masses of gullible people fed lies about the world and controlled by the few greedy. Once you see whatever pigeon hole you've been set in, the walls close in fast.
The world is stacked against men. It's got worse in recent years. Society is falling apart and reasonable rational quiet men know it. I'm 60.
Yeah, I'm glad you can see it. Sadly so many your age and even younger are either in denial or straight up blind to it.
Absolutel truth
It’s already come apart, it’s just still in the process of crashing to the ground….
I have believe there is a social war against men going on most of this century. Young men have very little chance today.
Ironically I am 30 now and have basically gotten to the point in life im ok with being alone. I work a boring job in government, haven't had a GF since 2021, and haven't even tried since 2021. If I'm not working I'm either at home playing video games, eating or sleeping.
31 here. You just described a majority of self-sufficient single men. I'm investing to become a rich man later in life and I'll probably start a family later down the road with a young woman.
you are lucky you do not have to produce anything in life to make a living, thanks to real men working in the industries like Oil Agriculture and construction.
It's the job part I can't come to terms with. I'd rather be dead than work a job like that. I've always been self employed and low income. I quit my freelancing job to mow lawns, I am much happier doing that and it is very flexible. But work will never bring meaning to my life and I still resent the time that is lost and dealing with difficult people.
@@bigchief2331 I think it's called money ? Children and women like to spend, all women. I could have given my ex wife 300 K and she would still have wanted more. If a man is broke, he may as well give up on the aspiration to a family life, but many realise actually that that's not for them. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with living an idependent lifestyle, but this is strangely stigmatised for men.
I'm 34, I choose freedom.
You gotta do what’s right for you! 😊
Freeeeeeeeeedooooooooooom!
I’m single, no children, dead end job, legal issues, physical problems, addictions, and nearly broke. The American Dream is just that….a dream.
At 32, I started gym for the first time and made my first 80K in one year. This is the best era of my life! We are nowhere near old gentlemen! I'm 36 now, and I'm in the best physical, financial, and mental state I've ever been in. Don't hit the wall when it's still so damn far away!
About to turn 32. I've been running nearly every day since the beginning of this year and lost 25kg. I am quite proud about that. I am fitter than I ever have been. But financially and mentally, not doing well at all. But i don't really care, money just doesn't motivate me. I like my freedom and hate taking orders and being 'on the clock'.
@bigchief2331 i get it. I hated that too. I started a lawncare business at 28 and made less than minimum wage the first 4 years working 8 days a week. The money got better after everything started getting paid off and got better workers. Even though I make my own hours, I still feel like I'm always at work. I miss paycheck to paycheck life most days lolol. But good for you! I wish I could run, I'm just beefy from weights, I count my job as cardio lol
Right, I’ve been feeling like I’m getting better every year.
Why did society give up on men, is a more apt question
I don't know any men who are dating after 30. I turned 30 and it was like suddenly I understood how I was being used and manipulated by women and I just couldn't find the effort to try with them anymore..
Agree 100%. Been there, done that and as you get older, older women who have hit the wall, look for someone to save them.
I just keep getting the image of that bird video, where the male bird builds this fancy nest and shows this fancy colored trash he found... and the lady bird arrives and he does his little song and dance and she is like: Nah you're not chad enough *flies away*. He tears apart the nest in sexual frustration. Yep, that's life in a nutshell. lol
I completely gave up and started claiming benefits 🙌🏻 never been happier
What can you do living on a pittance that is benefits?; you can’t afford to fund hobbies like Photography, Railway Modelling etc, you can’t hire a prostitute.
Bro
I’m 37 and my real life has just started
Left the cubicle at 31 to do my own thing. Free and excited for every day.💪
Feel old at 30?.
I’m 63 and still going strong
Also, I recommend every man watching this and even the guy that made the video to take a long break from the internet. There’s so much bullshit on here and on tv that is totally irrelevant, and it makes you think that there’s no hope. Get out in nature and you’ll realise how pathetic it all is.
You feel so small, it's true, that's why I love Brazil instead of Europe
100%. My biggest struggle is to get off X and Instagram and Reddit. Wasting time going down rabbit holes instead of living each moment of your life and appreciating the texture of the real thing in the flesh.
Truth
well said
Lack of worthwhile friendships at this age (45). Friends have fallen away into dull routines, stopped living, unwilling to get out of the precious comfort zone, no hobbies/interests, just drinking at some run down bar. Alcoholism is disturbingly common. I don't care how I'm judged, while I can get away with it I'll choose the company of guys mid 20s -early 30s. Being around old men makes me feel like an old man. You only control your own attitude/behaviour, not that of others.
I'm 49.
It's work. It never ends. 😢
I'm 32 next month. Totally lost interest in life. Food doesn't taste right or bring any joy anymore. I can't meet people, everyone seems closed off and unwilling to put in effort to make friends or plan activities. Perhaps they are too busy, this system we live under really does have a way of sucking all joy from life and reducing us to hollow husks. I just don't care about anything anymore. Time seems to be passing quicker than ever and nothing ever changes. I go for my daily walks/runs which help somewhat, but I hate being stuck at home feeling lonely and lost all the time. I want connection with other people and to feel like my existence matters, but I just can't find it. The world is nothing like it was when I was growing up, and everything just seems to get worse with every passing year. Not sure I really want to hang around much longer but I have a small hope that things will change for the better. I'd love to see this horrible system crumble and we go back to living a much more natural and fulfilling way of life.
38. Right there with you mate.
Nothing will get better. In fact, it's gonna get worse and worse. In addition to that, you'll get older and prices will only go up. You can't escape this. It's inevitable.
That's by design everyone feels like this not just you realise it now society is ran by corrupt elites covid was to turn everyone into zombies by making the online world more real then the real world it worked Elon musk just made robots now that people will have as friends and be in there homes I'm not joking look it up
The strange thing is we have it so much better than countless ancestors who were completely resigned to war, work, disease or some other devil and yet there is so much unhappiness.
I never started living in the first place. Never found a drive to nor any permanent opportunities to integrate and grow socially.
Men don't give up, we just stop caring about people and things that don't care about us. At 30, it's time to focus on self.
Exactly. Those people will always grift, manipulate, blame, abuse, and demand. Enough is enough of them.
@@christopherrobin361 Absolutely. Well said.
40 plus, and I’m done.
It is in your mind !
There's something truly out of sync in the world right now...49 here, ive lost interest in everything just short of keeping my body alive.... after the 90s, life just became off, not as fun ..now it feels like a soulless simulation just going through the motions.
I still had alot of fun in my 30s, my 40s is when i felt the big change...
I didn't give up in my 30s I found self love/acceptance. Single happy and more confident then ever
Im 41 and feel like 20.... If I didnt know aging exists I wouldnt notice anything..
Because we keep opening ourselves up to people in hope, and keep getting conditioned to believe we are not good enough. If nothing I do or have is good enough, what’s the point of trying harder? I’d rather be lonely and peaceful.
Well at 35 i dont know what to do anymore. I dont have a partner. I cant afford anything. I cant get stable employment. I dunno what to do anymore. I'm irish in Australia and nothing has worked out for me here to. I want to be rich and successful. I want my own apartment. I dunno what to do anymore.
Sorry to hear that my friend! I’ve been through similarly tough times. While I don’t have any direct suggestions, I do know that things turn around if you keep trying. Maybe starting with the simple goal of stability and building from there might help you gain a semblance of control and sense of achievement. Wishing you the best! 😊🙏🏻
I gave up at 27. I’m 50 now and nothing has gotten better for me. Only worse.
I am 35, Irish too. I would recommend reading The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle. I am still reading it but it focuses on human flourishing. One interesting thing that i learned from it was forming good habits by tricking your mind. Going cold turkey on bad habits wont work. So substitute those bad habits with habits that still give you dopamine but are things that are more productive.
Seek stability and security first. Then think about something bigger.
Sorry moving down under didn't broaden your horizons. I'm Irish and 28. Feel similarly hopeless too 😢
My life STARTED at 32... I finally GOT SOBER after TWELVE YEARS of DAILY DRINKING! I lost 75 pounds in a year. I paid off over $50,000 in 8 months. I saved up and bought a HOUSE by 33. Renovated said house in the next year and a half, and by 35 I had a SECOND house and now have the first one as a rental. I own my own business now and I've made $136k in a 12 month period. I could spend twenty minutes listing out my accomplishments.
I haven't given up, what are you talking about?
Well done that's really great. I am about to turn 32 and can't see myself achieving any of that, although i've lost 25kg this year which I am proud about. What business if you don't mind?? I am doing garden care/mowing but I don't see myself ever making that kind of money without killing my body or dealing with the hassles of employees and extra vehicle etc. I like the flexibility of this business but I can't do it flat out and wouldn't want to. Really would like to start some sort of online business.
do you live in America? I'm from Europe. Your story sounds too good to be true.
@@TheAleksandros I live in Ohio
@@raymond_sycamore I'm convinced that such awesome comeback stories like yours happen only in America. I've seen some of those and the guy describing it is always an American. In other parts of the world such things are not possible. Maybe it's because due to the nations affluence or sth. Idk
This video is a bit depressing but I have to remind myself that for me, I don't really fall into this camp because my 20s basically sucked and wasn't until my late twenties heading into my 30s where my life has been turning around. Sure I've missed out on the prime of my life youth wise but I've never felt better both physically and mentally and my view of the future, though challenging, is far more optimistic than ever before. For context, I've suffered with severe mental health issues most of my life so all I've really known is silent suffering and pessimism. Stark contrast to the person I am now. Only way is up for me 😊
I need to reinvent myself!
the most important thing in life is to have realistic and sensible goals. Like to do an apprenticeship and then later to study a proper subject to make a career. Therefore proper planning is the most impontant thing in life so you don't waste your time and money.
While all of this is right, it kinda sidesteps the main reason - men between 30 to say 45 have had to react to an unprecedented number of societal changes in the last few years with no guidance on how to properly adjust. This is stuff like:
1) Increasing feminism and thr changes it brings to the workplace, how to manage relationships with modern women, and what our role is moving forwarda as a man. I am not saying feminism is bad. All I am saying is things changed, and we didn't get a chance to adjust
2) A changing media landscape that somewhat demonizes men or masculine elements. For example, we don't really have Stallones and Arnolds to look up to. We have to accept feminized men or even portrayls of men as evil in movies now, and if we push back, we are called mean and closed minded. Women seem to be getting the characters they want now (which is great), but our characters and heroes have to "take a step back" or be readjusted for consumption
3) Severe economic changes. Esg, diversity requirements, outsourcing. All which may be good, but all which mainly asked men to adjust or give up some of their advantages
Given these drastic changes, we have seen a rise in negative portrayls like "alpha male" role models or guys wanting to mgtow
Men don’t give up at 30, you just realise you haven’t got the same energy you used to have. You get wiser, and you should value health, and choose who you hang around with. In a way I think life improves. You have to keep evolving.
We all have to grow up at some point, most men do not grow up. They stay as teenagers until they’re 60.
Very true!
5 Decades ago by the age of 18 girls knew who they were supposed to marry, settle down and have a nice family. With that BIG, HUGE, ENORMOUS project in today Era, everybody was super obligated to just deal with the family. Men had to work hard, women had enough hard work raising children and keeping the house operational. In their spare time they were cooking cakes from raw material. The amount of obese people was less than .. 3%. ... BUT now... in this modern era, everybody is too "busy" pursuing a carreer, both male and females and since there was nothing cooked people swifted to ready-to eat food. So... obesity came and now more than 30% are aging super fast eating all supermarket preprocessed foodcrap. So... my point is that men are giving up because ... there have no obligation to NOT to give up. Most haven't established a steady relationship, haven't engaged or got married. Therefore ...without real-life responsibilities like babies that need resources ... men do not get the needed rush to try and chase nothing. Hope to find a good lady with purspose in life and everything will align sir. I will pray for you. Have a Good day.
I’m 52 and I’m the youngest I will ever be. Some things, mostly physical, are harder than they used to be. But others are a lot easier. People listen to you more and take you more seriously. You stop caring so much about other peoples’ opinion. With a bit of thought and effort you can look better than ever. Experience is under-rated. Ageing is a bit shit in a lot of ways, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
67 here. Never give up ......
I'm 28 and all I want is to own my own sailboat one day. Before (and if I even) retire and become old and sick. I'm never gonna have a house anyway. And I don't really care about women anymore.
Eff it, brothers. Let's go bowling!
The dude abides! 🤣
Having a career, taxes, mortgage, bills, responsibilities etc. is fine...the problem is it is far too much and out of control, it is dehumanizing, abnormal, unnatural, and destructive, to the human experience and to the world in general. When do we ever as a whole start to figure out how to get things right, or is that just not possible?
This is why you should try paragliding, skydiving, or any sort of adventure sport. Spend time outdoors. No two days are ever the same because life is a journey, not a destination.
I'm 61 and living my best life. Body game for life.
I felt pretty young through my thirties when I was a wild and crazy merchant seaman. But then after the Gulf War when I started becoming annoyed with all of the drunks, having quit drinking myself, I decided to go to barber college at the age of forty to prepare myself for my old fogey job, where between haircuts when it’s slow you get to loaf in your well padded barber chair. That was a good fit and lasted for 20 years but it put four inches on my waistline which had to be lost when my A1C started getting too high. But I really gave up at 45 when I cancelled my wedding and decided to remain a bachelor thereafter.
Never give up or throw in the towel guys. Your best days are ahead
I think for a lot, a big part after 30 is realizing you need to treat your body right, you can't get away with missing sleep, eating like crap, and barely exercising. I think practical things like that can fix a lot of problems men have after 30. The good news is you still have the potential to feel amazing. I feel better than I did in youth, but its due to fixing a lot of my bad habits the power of youth masked. I have to be intentional with getting good sleep, eating low carb, no sugar, high protein, walking and weight lifting (nothing crazy just 30-45 minutes a day of either). The processed foods and sugar destroy you man.
Don't get me wrong things can still be hard with the work grind and responsibilities, but its in our best interest to try and find ways for ourselves to make it work. IDK if anything comes after so I'm going to treat this life as if its my only life I have. There are joys and amazing things that still get me excited that I try to keep alive alongside the work.
started PhD at 32, seven years older than average student here in Germany.
couldn't make it any earlier. I have one life :( can't give up on it
I'm 33 and never felt happier.
What else works is to get one of those digital LED thermometers and just measure everything, that will distract you for months
Lmao best answer
Im a retired trucker i was gangster astoo work up until my 50s in my 40s I was a beast so I dont know what your talking about being beat in the 30s,,,
Men, don't give up! We neeed youuuuuu! A woman ❤❤❤
We’re done lady do it all yourself
Bot?
The are no girls on the internet.
After I met Jesus, he changed me, I have more energy than in my 20’s. I now have purpose in my life which is my band and writing music with them, and have cultivated multiple other hobbies that I enjoy. Matthew 6:33, “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you” I’m basically experiencing it!
I hit the brick wall at 40. Now 45 and still under that crumbled wall.
It's really interesting because my best friend turned 31 and 2 months later, he committed suicide. That was just before 2013 but he was into drugs and he couldn't find a woman but he was very intelligent and handsome.
Took me til 50, but I’m firmly there now. The wife, the job, kids, society, wore me out. I got nothing left to live for. Just waiting for death, which will be here soon.
Is giving up on getting married or having a family giving up on life.
If you're 'feeling old', you're probably not taking care of yourself / working out. I get that it's hard with everything else squeezing your time but if you had prioritised it in your 20's, you shouldn't be feeling or looking old. That's on you.
People really hate when i say im content with a simple life.
I live alone in a studio apartment dont own any fancy stuff i put all my money in assets that generate income to free up as much time as possible.
The only ones that do are those who married the wrong person , usually a woman but don't have the balls to end the marriage so they just give up . Very sad .
This is ridiculous, this comes from a lack of health habits; healthy eating, meditation, sauna, cold plunge, and working out 3-5 days per week.
They find out all they were told and promised were complete lies.
Beware of ambition its a symptom of being delusional
@waynebrady7439 Ambition is the force that gets you into motion and keep you going..
It is also the thing thats make you stumble over your own feet if you don't pay attention.
I may be blocked but I'm not dead inside I'm all I have
Well lucky you
not having an english accent has made my life %20 harder
your talking as if your talking about your 60's not 30's
30 is also the average age of first marriage for men.
It can't be a simple coincidence.
Holly crap , I think I stumbled on new species😂
Don’t waste your time pretending you’re old in your flipping 30’s, that’s absurd and lazy thinking. Take good care of yourself, don’t get married but have girlfriends, don’t let them get the best of you. I’m nearly 60 and I nearly died 3 years ago, enjoy life while your health is good, and stay as healthy as you can. . Make you your #1 priority your mental and physical health. Women are not logical, don’t bother to try reasoning with them. Respect yourself and they will respect you more. You can have a happy life!
I am a man of 50 I have not and will not give up on life, getting old is good means you have lived want to not get old only one way to do that and that's silly.
You work until you have a place to live, a car, food and entertainment. After that, why should I work any harder?
To mantain what you have duh
@@quantumspark343 Learn to read. I wrote "after that" why work any harder.
7:45 what happened there ?
Oops! Late night editing is what happened there! My bad! 😅
I gave up in my 20s
Same
There is literally no problem, well few at any rate, which can't be improved by a big, fat, wad of cash. Unhappy in your job ? No problem, just quit and retrain. Unhappy in your marriage ? What you griping about ? Just divorce and buy an apartment.Worried about your health ? Just pay for the treatment and get it fixed. Want a personal trainer/personal fencing instructor.....Just generally unhappy ? Pay for a therapist who will, for that hourly sum, pretend to give a crap and offer up theoretical bullshit which, for a time anyway, may help you feel better. The problem for most men, basically, is lack of access to resources
Because you come to the realisation that everything is strange.
A man doesn't come into his prime until about 45 to 50. Look at Sean Connery in James Bond!
You don't need lots of money to be attractive to women.
But you got to do a job and things in general that you love - and that you do first for yourself in non-selfish way (she wants you to make her feel ALIVE / EXCITED about life). You can do it.
A woman wants you to LEAD her (takes a few months to learn the basic psychology of - then you're away). She wants you to be CONFIDENT (this is key). You can do it.
A woman wants you to PROTECT her - body, mind and soul (should be able to do that from the get-go). To make her feel SAFE. You can do it.
A woman wants you to contain her emotionally (she wants you to be her emotional rock). You can do it.
A woman wants you to make her laugh and turn life playful, exciting and adventurous. You can do it.
A woman wants you to really listen to her. Her. emotional landscape. But not too much either. You can do it.
A woman wants you to enjoy understanding women and how to turn them on, body, mind and soul. You can do it.
But ultimately for the sake of your wife. To really love your wife / future wife. Not as a way to manipulate women for s-x and / or your daft little ego.
I learned all this during Covid. My life changed drastically. Other men can too. And within a few months every man can turn his life around quite significantly. And after a year or two considerably so. And then just keep on working on yourself - like a project.
Get a robot then.......
I'd rather just crack one off than spending time and money trying to master jedi mind tricks
@@JohnFrenchMSc But being this man is first for yourself! You become alive. It's about becoming like a Greek hero to achieve great things in life for yourself in non-narcissistic sense and then you can form great relationships with others, in particular, your spouse as a result. It's not about becoming like a Greek hero but developing your true personality. That part of you that loves humour, fun, play and adventure. It's about developing the part of you that others want to be lead by. It's about developing that part of you that is good at healing others (without being their therapist) and interested and curious in people (in particular your spouse). It's about developing your wisdom - for your own self-awareness in a positive sense, your understanding of people in general - but in particular of women. Which drives them crazy - in particular your spouse for you. And it's about knowledge of the world, culture and civilisation but without being corrupt or ambitious in a bad way. It's about having great s-x long-term with your spouse body, mind and soul. And the joy of seducing her. And the comfort of affectionate, non-seduction too. You GROW into this really big person, full of joy, life and love and achieving great things but in a non-narcissistic sense and accepting your flaws without crumbling. Best.
@@JohnFrenchMSc Just cum on the wall
39, Im looking for a more stable career
listen, can you hear it it? the grave is getting closer
Not true. I'm living my best life after 30!
You given up when you've passed .
Conforming is never exciting. Buy a van and hit the surf 🏄♀️
I’m gay
Wait until you reach your 50s, you’ll look back and long for your 30s. Enjoy it while it lasts gents, it’s all downhill from here. Enjoy the decline.
cause no kids?
I'm 59 look and feel 30s sexy body 1:43
Men don’t give up on life after 30…… nonsense
My husband about to be ex soon he is suffering from depression and doesn't take care of his body, diet, or mental health he is always unhappy and moody i cant stay and suffer with him or my kids anymore.
With a wife like you I don't blame him
Help encourage him if you can, go with you and kids to local rec gym to swim, play ball, lift, etc. But encourage in a supportive manner not demeaning. If he is opposed find out why in a gentle manner and try to overcome the reason.
One thing is for sure - being physically active is a habit and can be tough to form the habit with lack of support or previous experience to relate to. If he denies still then go with kids but ask every time if he would like to join. Eventually he may take you up on the offer
Just tell him that if he goes to the gym everyday you’ll give him your poopbox everynight. Problem solved.
Are you braindead?
You treated your marriage vows like trash