Oh Yeah, M.I.A is a true genius. The problem is how US treated her after the Super Bowl with Madonna. She had so much backlashes and been accused of 'terrorism'. She released a documentary and she explained all of that, it's super interesting ;)
@@poisonfruit7357 I was on board with Skrillex from the beginning. I'm a big From First To Last fan, and followed Sonny's career on MySpace after he left. It was a fun time to grow up. I was a few years late on hyperpop, but it's nice to hear dubstep's influence on it. I imagine it's an exciting time to be a young pop fan
She and Carly Rae Jepsen seem to be stuck in the same place career wise. They're doing the best shit in the genre, but most people only know them for that one hit they had like a decade ago.
@@cheezyfilmsproductions1842 not really.. charli has had many recent hits or local hits such as 1999, boys, and dream glow.. also she wrote same old love and señorita which was one of the biggest hit of last year.. if not the biggest
@@giuseppep6396 But none of those songs were big like Boom Clap. What I'm saying is that if you go to the average person, they still only know her for those handful of massive hits she had in the early 2010s. Fancy has 1 billion views on YT, Boom Clap has 400 million. Boys has 130 million, and 1999 has 40 million. They're great songs, but they're not nearly as successful as those other hits. And yes, she writes hits for other artists, but my point is that most people don't know that she wrote those songs. They just associate them with Camila Cabello and Selena Gomez. My whole point was that while maybe people like us listen to Charli's new stuff, most people still only know her for those couple of megahits she had a few years ago. Very much like Carly Rae Jepsen. Those who pay attention know that last few albums are incredible, but to the vast majority of people, she will always only be the Call me Maybe girl. It's sad, but it's true.
I feel like Charli simply enjoys staying amongts her fanbase. I saw her in concert in France last year, she played in a small venue and I think it might have been on purpose. I felt like she truly enjoyed being in contact with her audience, she invited local drag queens on stage, something that maybe could have not happened if it was a bigger venue. She's rich enough and talented enough to make whatever she wants with her career but I truly believe she has an important value of staying true to herself and her music. I'm only speculating here but I genuinely feel like it's the truth
@@CAKECO. I agree lol Diplo is completely overrated. He made Skrillex sound like garbage after all his great tunes before. Really made me lose respect fir him.
Dylan Brady is so big behind the scenes. It's insane how many big and upcoming artists the guy has produced for. Like hes even done stuff for the neighbourhood too. I'm excited to see what that guy does for the industry as a whole.
NoahSimonFilms its really unfair to say that charli xcx created this genre because SOPHIE is actually more a breeder for this genre because she has high pitched vocals on her songs like 100 gecs and at the end of the day the production in hyperpop matters much more than the vocals also charli was kind of a mixing pot but charlis label hooked her up with ag cook and sophie at first 💖
I feel like we also need to recognize the influence Crystal Castles had on the music industry. She's definitely somewhere in the same realm as all these other amazing artists!
If you listen to Alice Glass' solo stuff (one half of CC) it is super apparent how her ideas early on as part of CC kind of shaped into this, her solo stuff is definitely glitchcore
It’s so crazy to have witnessed this all in real time and to watch artists like Charli lay the groundwork for what has become such a booming subculture in the past 4-5 years. It’s literally history in the making
To be fair I think we should all thank Sophie and A.G Cook for Hyperpop. If it weren't for them hyperpop would just not exist. Sophie today, Sophie tomorrow, Sophie forever ♾️
this! saying charli created hyperpop is so weird when charli wasn’t even DOING hyperpop before meeting AG Cook and Sophie (who were already creating the foundations for the genre)
I'm kinda surprised that you never mentioned Arca at all, and I think SOPHIE deserved a bigger spotlight in the video too. But this is a really great video overall, though! Well done!
Arca was probably an oversight, though you could make the argument that her influence has been seen more in the experimental electronic music and IDM side of things than in the pop side of things (though you can certainly hear her in artists from NUXXE). Even when you look at FKA twigs and Kelela, two examples of big artists that Arca helped develop, she brought her weirdness to their takes on R&B and Neo-soul, instead of any sort of of "conventional" pop that usually underlies hyperpop. To your other point, the first draft of the script had like three quarters of a page committed to SOPHIE alone lmao, ultimately had to cut most of it out. Leaned in more on PC Music as a whole.
@@NoahSimonFIlms since u have 3/4 of the OG draft being dedicated to SOPHIE it would be a shame to let it to waste. An analysis video on SOPHIE would be great:)
@@1075Marijavera I wouldn't say 3/4s, but a big chunk dedicated to her after the section on PC Music leading up to the section on Vroom Vroom. I would love to! I have a script for different video lined, but def something I'm considering. There is also a lot of commentary her already.
I would consider Arca experimental electronic music, maybe even industrial, also if you listen to stretch 1 & 2 there’s a heavy hip hop influence on those albums
@Jozkg Its much different imo. The distorted vocals and sounds, fast songs, violent instrumentals, and glittery aesthetic set it apart from anything before it. The “happy” and dance like sounds with sad, sometimes even morbid lyrics (speckled with internet culture/memes) add a lot more character than some of the earlier versions of this style as well
The interesting thing about it is that it’s mostly just an umbrella term for a wide variety of electronic music. In some aspects it has a heavy nightcore influence, in other examples it’s eurodance, drum n bass, etc.
Honestly it’d be easy to go back and forth arguing over influences tbh, in my opinion it all comes down to AG and the original PC Music album solidifying a distinct lane for what became hyperpop. The biggest hitters here would in my opinion be Charli, AG, and Sophie.
Charli’s an incredible songwriter though. Genius level. On top of that she’s a visionary and a world-builder, and she’s not playing the part for a major label. I’d say that her vision as well as her massive talent and influence is definitely, hugely important and valid here. What she brought/brings to the table is crucial to the success of ’Hyperpop’ and it’s system of creators.
Totally. I'd say it's under the massive hyperpop umbrella, though some would say it's its own thing. I wrote a bit about this here: www.sparky.wtf/news/glaive-hyperpop
this totally deserves to blow up, you have put so much thought and time into it and it really shines through. the ideas you present are really thought provoking and interesting concepts and i honestly can’t wait to get more into hyperpop and look into some of the artists you mentioned in this because i am becoming obsessed with this genre. thank you so much!!!
In the comments the creator says that he left out the names of the ACTUAL people who created hyperpop to “better fit the narrative of the video”..... so just presenting the audience with an objectively false claim. Sad because I would love to see a video about the actual origins of hyperpop :(
Gwen Stefani did everything before Gaga. Her pop was also considered alternative pop when her first album LAMB was released. Even Gaga is a fan of Gwen. Gwen Stefani was a million years ahead of her time when she mixed pop, dance, new wave, electronic, R&B, hip hop, darkwave, PC music, alternative rock, electroclash, retro 80s pop, etc. with her first album LAMB in 2003
this video gave me goosebumps lmao this is all very well put together and SO good. so much amazing music has come out of this and im so excited to see how it evolves!
Lady Gaga's ICONIC ARTPOP album definitely deserves recognition. If you listen to SWINE and AURA you will hear the same influences and her producer on that album DJ WHITE SHADOW also spoke on this matter.
When talking about 100 Gecs, did you forget that digital hardcore existed and, also, that Crystal Castles and Sleigh Bells were a thing?! lol Nice to see Charli's early stuff being talked about tho! :) Nice job!
I'd say it's relatively ignorant to act like Charli is the "inventor" of hyperpop, but it's also reductionist to act like she has had no impact, I think the world of music is too interconnected to draw exactly 1 starting point. Laura Les and Dylan Brady have been producing hyperpop adjacent material for years, Hannah Diamond has been dropping singles that are definitely hyperpop since 2013, and Dorian Electra and SOPHIE have been making and producing genderbending and genre shattering music for a while now. I think the scene is more nuanced than the video made it out to be
The fact that I know all of the previously mentioned artists right back from the very beginning of their career makes me think of how much time I've spent on the internet.
@@pidge6378 (f)AG cook invented NOTHING he just stole from everyone else 😭😭 the only reason you know him is cuz of him working with Charli and that’s a FACT LMAOOOOO
She might not have “created it” per se but she has probably brought more fans into the genre than most other artists in the field. Her impact is undeniable.
Needs more views!!! This video obviously has a lot of care put into it, since it recommends a lot of artists and information on the genre!!! Edit: good info but misleading title and some misinformation
Yeah but he’s wrong. Charli XCX by no means created the genre. Charli has been a part of the scene but other people deserve a lot more credit than Charli XCX. He should delete the video and if he wants make a video about hyperpop He should make a new one that actually gives credit to the many people who actually created hyperpop.
No. People who watch this will think that Charli actually created Hyperpop. She may have popularized it.. but she did not create it.. not even close. The title is misleading
Great video! I have been listening to a lot of Charli, Rina, Sophie, and Kim Petras recently and I never even knew it was all apart of its own sub genre.
Probably out of respect because Ayesha stepped away from the scene and doesn’t want to be a public figure. Love her tho. A-aaaayesha erotica! I’m the boom in your car! 💞
Great video loved looking at the timeline of this emerging genre. Do think not mentioning Ayesha Erotica was a little odd since, as far as I’m aware, she has had a big role in growing the hyper pop sound amongst a lot of the American artists mentioned here.
Agreed, I unfortunately had to ignore a few names that I was excited to talk about (I only mentioned Ayesha as producer on the Slayyyter song). The original version of the script had mentions of a bunch of artists who ultimately didn't make the final video, including Brooke Candy, Uffie, Poppy, Kero Kero Bonito, and even M.I.A. For the sake of even an *attempt* at brevity (and narrative coherence), I had to make some tough choices partially based on my own bias and taste.
@@NoahSimonFIlms can we get a part two talking about the hyperpop movement as a whole with an emphasis on various other artists who influenced and are laying the foundation for the genre?
Yeah, I'd really love a part 2 & hope it mentions the artists you left out, plus Crystal Castles. Alice Glass was actually an inspiration on Grimes vocal style & she's now making incredible solo music. It'd be interesting to touch on how it has expanded to rap artists & is inclusive/has incorporated rap. There's Rico, Cupcakke, Brooke Candy, perhaps Zheani Sparkes & some of Charli's songs incorporate rap (Bricks, 5 in the Morning, Heartbreaks & Earthquakes etc. I think there's even old footage of her saying she wanted to be a rapper (perhaps half-jokingly). Also !Franchescarr!
If you like Charli, check out Allie x, she’s amazing. She makes slightly chiller, more vibey electronic music, but she still has great beats and unique production
It saddens me to see MIA and Uffie being excluded in this video, when they’re literally the pioneers of this whole genre. They inspired most of these artists, including Charli.
As someone who loves electronic music this stuff is growing on me. I don’t know to explain it but it mixes like multiple genres and I can’t stop jamming to it
The person who made this video needs to do a lot more research. Hyperpop was a thing long before Charli. And the wave that Charli got on existed long before she was onto the sound. You need to get into PC Music's/AG Cook's/Sophie's releases in 2012-2014, back when Charli was doing songs like "fancy" and "gold coins".. The sound of Hyperpop has been around for ages, especially with M.I.A and Santigold.
Hol up Charli xcx did not "create" hyperpop. "Hyperpop" was a term coined by spotify in a playlist that grouped a bunch of artists with kind of similar synthesized sounds together. Charli helped popularize the pc music label and their sound though. But no, she did not create that sound. Almost all of her tracks are produced by AG Cook now, and their futuristic electronic sound is his doing.
saying charli is behind the entire hyper pop music scene is straight up ridiculous. SOPHIE and Arca undeniably started the trend of experimental music influencing pop and artists like Björk and M.I.A. pioneered it.
@@mickelkenner516 try listening to those songs and you'll know what I'm talking about. That music I listed is the definition of hyper pop and I listened to mostly that during my childhood
@@chai387 I literally listened to Kyary pamyu pamyu and that’s just preppy pop. I know that’s only one set of pop but the variations weren’t all there before
@@mickelkenner516 kyary pamyu pamyu doesn't represent all of jpop there's a wide variety of artists. I was thinking more of a pop sound with a bit of a y2k/techno mix to it I think you should try really any vocaloid song, and for jpop Perfume, Capsule and more. Also europop from the 2000s really represents this style as well. Try, Better off Alone, ATC's music, Cascade. I think the music definitely shows where Charli got her inspo from and Charli even wrote songs for kpop artists which is another genre that takes inspo from the genres I listed as well as American music
Exactly, this title still bothers me, since she just lended her voice but was not rly part of the production - and tbh when charli started riding the hyperpop wave it didn't feel so authentic anymore
we have to agree also that not all hyperpop songs are good, some really exagerate and make terrible songs & use "experimenting" as an excuse, im sorry but its the truth, but ofc theres a lot of good songs out of it
I don't think charli created hyperpop, she's really only the face because she's the most visible out of all the artists that are within the hyperpop sphere.
Saying Charli created it is pretty disingenuous. She popularized it. In fact, industry execs had been playing with the idea of a manufactured genre and were doing extensive research on up-and-coming artists who seemed to be doing similar sounds, which didn’t quite fit into a specific category; among them were Sophie, Hannah Diamond, Namasenda, Charli, AG Cook, and others. In a way, hyperpop was actually a big marketing strategy to create a scene and a genre. The industry saw a trend and capitalized on it.
What r u talking about? I love Charli but GWEN STEFANI's created Hyperpop since 2003 with LAMB. Actually Charli XCX loves Gwen and sees her as one of her idols and inspirations & wants to work w her again.
rina sawayama is probably one of the most versatile artists out there. the future of pop
YES!
facts
periodt
I love her sm rjdbejbf
Amen.
I feel like M.I.A deserved some recognition here especially for her 2010 project /\/\ /\ Y /\
She basically invented the genre, but you’re the only one talking about her here in the comments. She’s criminally underrated
For some reason I had only ever heard Fantano talk about MIA before, she was really ahead of her time.
Oh Yeah, M.I.A is a true genius. The problem is how US treated her after the Super Bowl with Madonna. She had so much backlashes and been accused of 'terrorism'. She released a documentary and she explained all of that, it's super interesting ;)
M.I.A will always be one of my favorites 2005 Though 2010 she was fantastic!
AMEEEEN, M.I.A. WAS THE PIONEER
Rest in peace SOPHIE...
you were there at the beginning of an era we will carry on
💎 SOPHIE 💎
Witnessing history feels weird
imagine growing up when skrillex hit mainstream then all of this happening
@@nataliasaratomy7190 hey i'll drink to that bro
Poisonfruit Only Real CHARLIE XCX Fans Heard This 💅🏽 🤩
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yeah
@@poisonfruit7357 I was on board with Skrillex from the beginning. I'm a big From First To Last fan, and followed Sonny's career on MySpace after he left. It was a fun time to grow up. I was a few years late on hyperpop, but it's nice to hear dubstep's influence on it. I imagine it's an exciting time to be a young pop fan
She's such a star but still kinda... Underrated? Like everybody knows her but she's not THAT famous, like festival main stage famous or something
Ya that’s like a great way to explain her
She and Carly Rae Jepsen seem to be stuck in the same place career wise. They're doing the best shit in the genre, but most people only know them for that one hit they had like a decade ago.
@@cheezyfilmsproductions1842 not really.. charli has had many recent hits or local hits such as 1999, boys, and dream glow.. also she wrote same old love and señorita which was one of the biggest hit of last year.. if not the biggest
@@giuseppep6396
But none of those songs were big like Boom Clap.
What I'm saying is that if you go to the average person, they still only know her for those handful of massive hits she had in the early 2010s. Fancy has 1 billion views on YT, Boom Clap has 400 million. Boys has 130 million, and 1999 has 40 million. They're great songs, but they're not nearly as successful as those other hits.
And yes, she writes hits for other artists, but my point is that most people don't know that she wrote those songs. They just associate them with Camila Cabello and Selena Gomez.
My whole point was that while maybe people like us listen to Charli's new stuff, most people still only know her for those couple of megahits she had a few years ago. Very much like Carly Rae Jepsen. Those who pay attention know that last few albums are incredible, but to the vast majority of people, she will always only be the Call me Maybe girl.
It's sad, but it's true.
I feel like Charli simply enjoys staying amongts her fanbase. I saw her in concert in France last year, she played in a small venue and I think it might have been on purpose. I felt like she truly enjoyed being in contact with her audience, she invited local drag queens on stage, something that maybe could have not happened if it was a bigger venue. She's rich enough and talented enough to make whatever she wants with her career but I truly believe she has an important value of staying true to herself and her music. I'm only speculating here but I genuinely feel like it's the truth
I wouldn’t say she created it, but has had a good influence on the scene.
ag cook created it
@@pidge6378 thats like saying Eminem invented rap
@@oxipolin6832 nope it's way more valid considering him an Danny L Harle did the closest thing to creating it by making PC Music
@@dylanpappas-8888 nightcore did it first.
@@oxipolin6832 I mean in only the most basic of ways but when you look at the actual production you can see the influences of pc music and sophie
SOPHIE A.G cook and dylan brady behind the scenes moving the cogs
I believe Ayesha isn't completely gone either.....
yessss credit where credit is due
don't forget Danny L Harle, he's been working with AG since before the creation of PC music in a project called Dux Content
@@spaceistheplace2293 trrrue
@@spaceistheplace2293 huge Danny
Special mention to "Bitch I'm Madonna" released in 2015. It was one of the first mainstream pop songs produced by SOPHIE.
No offence, but that song just sounded like cheap dubstep.
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek yeah, it was a song extremely polarizing, but it has a lot of elements from now current hyper pop
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek thanks to diplo
@@CAKECO. I agree lol Diplo is completely overrated. He made Skrillex sound like garbage after all his great tunes before. Really made me lose respect fir him.
But that song went to 84 on the Billboard Hot 100. It wasn't popular. I liked it, though.
20's is gonna be hyperpop
yes! It’s crazy to think that this is just the beginning
i hope so🥺
hell yea
Sound of the future for sure
Idk man
Fun fact: Charli xcx also had a helping hand in a lot of kpop songs.
Oh shit I didn't know that. She has the one song with BTS. That honestly makes sense. A lot of k-pop honestly reminds me of...hyperpop lol
SOPHIE produced for ITZY earlier this year, also a k-pop group
@@threed971 itzy def has a sophie/hyperpop aspect to them, thats honestly so cool.
Grimes collab to with LOONA
@@user-hq7zq8gs1f YES STAN LOONA
Dylan Brady is so big behind the scenes. It's insane how many big and upcoming artists the guy has produced for. Like hes even done stuff for the neighbourhood too. I'm excited to see what that guy does for the industry as a whole.
Totally!!!
NoahSimonFilms its really unfair to say that charli xcx created this genre because SOPHIE is actually more a breeder for this genre because she has high pitched vocals on her songs like 100 gecs and at the end of the day the production in hyperpop matters much more than the vocals also charli was kind of a mixing pot but charlis label hooked her up with ag cook and sophie at first 💖
@@NoahSimonFIlms and we got to fuck around in Korea when 1000 gecs came out 😎
@@williamjohnson6588 yooooo
@@NoahSimonFIlms honestly I feel like you’ve gotta do a deeper dive on your research into what hyper pop is because this is embarrassing...
vroom vroom
beep beep
chugga chugga chugga
so LET'S RIDE
Yo watch out don't crash into me
biches know they cant catch me😋🙈✨
Honest to God, "Vroom Vroom" from Charli XcX came out at a time where people where not ready
Facts.
yes
They didn’t even know they were unable to apprehend her
I mean certain people were ready
y'all yes charli didn't create 'hyperpop' but SHE did help POPULARIZED it
Which are two WILDLY different things.
yall
yeah so the title of the video is on some BS
I saw the title and was flabbergasted
I feel like we also need to recognize the influence Crystal Castles had on the music industry. She's definitely somewhere in the same realm as all these other amazing artists!
If you listen to Alice Glass' solo stuff (one half of CC) it is super apparent how her ideas early on as part of CC kind of shaped into this, her solo stuff is definitely glitchcore
She? CC is mainly Ethan Kath.
I think you’re definitely right but it’s important to acknowledge that even though Ethan Kath is a horrible person, CC was a group.
Mae McCormick CHARLIE XCX Fans Heard This 💅🏽 🤩
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Yes omg!!!
The name "hyper pop" is literally perfect, it sounds like Nicki minaj and lady gaga in early 2010's and late 2000's to the power of 1000.
It should've been named 'gay pop', since it's so vital to the community, almost feels like it exclusively belongs to gays.
Jk btw
It has a lot of y2k culture mixed in this gene
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek stop projecting
@@teratoma. What am I projecting?
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek jk btw
It’s so crazy to have witnessed this all in real time and to watch artists like Charli lay the groundwork for what has become such a booming subculture in the past 4-5 years. It’s literally history in the making
Grimes and M.I.A did it first and they made it popular this video is trash
@@l0v3rgr16 exactlyyyy
BLURRING OUT ANSEL ELGORT’S FACE PERIODDD
why?
girl u are everywhere. Usually i see u under Marina videos but i guess u also stan Charli hahaha YASSS
@@Paulito-ym4qc He did something really bad but I forgot what it was.
@@neptune973 oh...I want to know
@@perturb-arte1577 girl you're gonna have to look that up because I don't wanna say the wrong thing.
so we all gonna ignore M.I.A. impact in the 2010s with /\/\ /\ Y /\ and VICKI LEEKX?
Facts
Yes, because it's industrial hip hop and baltimore house, not pc music/bubblegum bass
To be fair I think we should all thank Sophie and A.G Cook for Hyperpop. If it weren't for them hyperpop would just not exist. Sophie today, Sophie tomorrow, Sophie forever ♾️
this! saying charli created hyperpop is so weird when charli wasn’t even DOING hyperpop before meeting AG Cook and Sophie (who were already creating the foundations for the genre)
also fun fact: Sophie used to produce eurodance songs
I'm kinda surprised that you never mentioned Arca at all, and I think SOPHIE deserved a bigger spotlight in the video too. But this is a really great video overall, though! Well done!
Arca was probably an oversight, though you could make the argument that her influence has been seen more in the experimental electronic music and IDM side of things than in the pop side of things (though you can certainly hear her in artists from NUXXE). Even when you look at FKA twigs and Kelela, two examples of big artists that Arca helped develop, she brought her weirdness to their takes on R&B and Neo-soul, instead of any sort of of "conventional" pop that usually underlies hyperpop. To your other point, the first draft of the script had like three quarters of a page committed to SOPHIE alone lmao, ultimately had to cut most of it out. Leaned in more on PC Music as a whole.
@@NoahSimonFIlms since u have 3/4 of the OG draft being dedicated to SOPHIE it would be a shame to let it to waste. An analysis video on SOPHIE would be great:)
@@1075Marijavera I wouldn't say 3/4s, but a big chunk dedicated to her after the section on PC Music leading up to the section on Vroom Vroom. I would love to! I have a script for different video lined, but def something I'm considering. There is also a lot of commentary her already.
@@NoahSimonFIlms thats great! Best of luck and have fun making the vid❤
I would consider Arca experimental electronic music, maybe even industrial, also if you listen to stretch 1 & 2 there’s a heavy hip hop influence on those albums
charli may not have created it but she is an integral part to it
This.
The first hyperpop artist is Italian: Pop X they do that since 2004
dylan brady is the godfather of hyperpop he needs his recognition
big facts
More like sybyr
Crab Sybyr is like trap metal def not hyperpop lol
Luxifyyy he does cybernetic trap which is a sub genre very similar to hyperpop but you are right he does metal trap too
dorian electra too
This is one of the more brighter aspects of 2020
Yeah I'm friends with glaive who is one of the biggest current Hyperpop artist my friend introduced me to him its crazy seeing where he is going
@@danaenaegod5203 glaive is unreal
@@NoahSimonFIlms ik
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You definitely have lost control over your life
Hyperpop is just futuristic eurodance
With a lot of drum n bass influence too
@Jozkg Its much different imo. The distorted vocals and sounds, fast songs, violent instrumentals, and glittery aesthetic set it apart from anything before it.
The “happy” and dance like sounds with sad, sometimes even morbid lyrics (speckled with internet culture/memes) add a lot more character than some of the earlier versions of this style as well
The interesting thing about it is that it’s mostly just an umbrella term for a wide variety of electronic music. In some aspects it has a heavy nightcore influence, in other examples it’s eurodance, drum n bass, etc.
yeah no charli didnt start this, she just rode the wave
Exactly
Honestly it’d be easy to go back and forth arguing over influences tbh, in my opinion it all comes down to AG and the original PC Music album solidifying a distinct lane for what became hyperpop. The biggest hitters here would in my opinion be Charli, AG, and Sophie.
Charli just lucked out by getting AG as a producer
@@xviolaa yep, AG can make anyone brilliant
Charli’s an incredible songwriter though. Genius level. On top of that she’s a visionary and a world-builder, and she’s not playing the part for a major label. I’d say that her vision as well as her massive talent and influence is definitely, hugely important and valid here. What she brought/brings to the table is crucial to the success of ’Hyperpop’ and it’s system of creators.
More like popularized it. M.I.A was doing it in 2010.
YESSS
Agreed, Charli took it to a level that reached a MUCH wider audience.
thanks for saying this lol!
Same with Grimes.. This video makes me mad lmao
@cloud nine Kala is my favorite project
is “glitchcore” and stutters related to hyperpop ?
Totally. I'd say it's under the massive hyperpop umbrella, though some would say it's its own thing. I wrote a bit about this here: www.sparky.wtf/news/glaive-hyperpop
i think it's a subgenre of hyperpop
this totally deserves to blow up, you have put so much thought and time into it and it really shines through. the ideas you present are really thought provoking and interesting concepts and i honestly can’t wait to get more into hyperpop and look into some of the artists you mentioned in this because i am becoming obsessed with this genre. thank you so much!!!
Wow, thank you so much for your kind words! That truly means a lot
i’d say product by sophie is probably the most influential hyperpop project made
This title is offensive to so many artists
honestly lol
In the comments the creator says that he left out the names of the ACTUAL people who created hyperpop to “better fit the narrative of the video”..... so just presenting the audience with an objectively false claim. Sad because I would love to see a video about the actual origins of hyperpop :(
Lol
@@alara4006 very true
no
You forgot Gaga in the category of emerging alternate pop. Bad Romance was really was a pinnacle of dark pop
and ARTPOP its so ahead with PC music/hyperpop
Dark synth pop at number 1. What a time loved it
@@JoseReyes-iz1eu swine is super hyperpop, she was truly ahead of her time
Gwen Stefani did everything before Gaga. Her pop was also considered alternative pop when her first album LAMB was released. Even Gaga is a fan of Gwen. Gwen Stefani was a million years ahead of her time when she mixed pop, dance, new wave, electronic, R&B, hip hop, darkwave, PC music, alternative rock, electroclash, retro 80s pop, etc. with her first album LAMB in 2003
So true aura was a masterpiece that really defined the genre
LET'S RIDE
this video gave me goosebumps lmao this is all very well put together and SO good. so much amazing music has come out of this and im so excited to see how it evolves!
Omg thank you!! I love your music!!!
artists like rina sawayama are truly the future of pop. we love to see versatility!!
🤮🤮🤮
also caroline polachek!♧
@@orangentage absolutely!!!! i am absolutely OBSESSED with her newest album
@@orangentage I love pang and diwttiy!
Lady Gaga's ICONIC ARTPOP album definitely deserves recognition. If you listen to SWINE and AURA you will hear the same influences and her producer on that album DJ WHITE SHADOW also spoke on this matter.
Period
Absolutely not
When talking about 100 Gecs, did you forget that digital hardcore existed and, also, that Crystal Castles and Sleigh Bells were a thing?! lol Nice to see Charli's early stuff being talked about tho! :) Nice job!
I'd say it's relatively ignorant to act like Charli is the "inventor" of hyperpop, but it's also reductionist to act like she has had no impact, I think the world of music is too interconnected to draw exactly 1 starting point. Laura Les and Dylan Brady have been producing hyperpop adjacent material for years, Hannah Diamond has been dropping singles that are definitely hyperpop since 2013, and Dorian Electra and SOPHIE have been making and producing genderbending and genre shattering music for a while now. I think the scene is more nuanced than the video made it out to be
Agreed, charli is an icon of the genre but stop forgetting other’s work. There’s a lot of producers behind the scene.
Yeah absolutely
The fact that I know all of the previously mentioned artists right back from the very beginning of their career makes me think of how much time I've spent on the internet.
Well today the internet is everything to music and I've been there looking at music since the 80s, so don't feel bad lol
Can i just say that uk artists are owning the 20s decade like wolf alice, lil simz, rina, charlie all are crafting a new wave in music
hyperpop, pc music, experimental, industrial, metal pop, bubblegum bass, avant pop, im in love with all these new genres! this is history right there
industrial has been around since the late 70s though, and was hugely popular in the 90s, not really new like the rest
AND Idm. Hyper pop Is a term just used for the noobs AND for The industry to sell
hyperpop and bubblegum bass is the same thing, pc music is not even a genre, and avant pop, experimental and indrustrial music existed before
idk why but saying charli “invented” the genre kinda seems weird to me? especially because even before grimes, M.I.A was on the stage too
crystal castles and similar bands also have a similar influence and CRIM3S is a band I never hear mentioned
ag cook invented the “genre” and that’s a fact
@@pidge6378 (f)AG cook invented NOTHING he just stole from everyone else 😭😭 the only reason you know him is cuz of him working with Charli and that’s a FACT LMAOOOOO
@@ps5hasnogames55 did you just call him a fag-
@@vermilionette7421 as i shouldT
Charli is truly an icon. 👸🏻
Coming back to say RIP SOPHIE ❤️
thank you i cant stop thinking about those early 2000s nightcore vengaboys eletronic happy rave colorful cyber songs
How do you just… Say this without… Understanding that… One artist does not create an entire genre multiple people do. There are influences everywhere
the title is a hyperbole, or did u just not watch the video 🤧😩 Charli is the reason hyperpop is so known, not the reason it exists
I think there is definitely a strong Jpop influence on the genre too, from producers like Yasutaka Nakata.
Perfume did this ages ago tbh
@@iceIceCold666 oh definitely
omgg finally someone mentioned!!
She might not have “created it” per se but she has probably brought more fans into the genre than most other artists in the field. Her impact is undeniable.
Needs more views!!! This video obviously has a lot of care put into it, since it recommends a lot of artists and information on the genre!!!
Edit: good info but misleading title and some misinformation
Yeah but he’s wrong. Charli XCX by no means created the genre. Charli has been a part of the scene but other people deserve a lot more credit than Charli XCX. He should delete the video and if he wants make a video about hyperpop He should make a new one that actually gives credit to the many people who actually created hyperpop.
No. People who watch this will think that Charli actually created Hyperpop. She may have popularized it.. but she did not create it.. not even close. The title is misleading
Great video! I have been listening to a lot of Charli, Rina, Sophie, and Kim Petras recently and I never even knew it was all apart of its own sub genre.
Sophie deserves more recognition.
exactly the reason charli was able to do hyper pop was bc oh SOPHIE and charli even admitted that in an interview
rest in power sophie
Shout out to the kids that did nightcore mvs with anime images for influencing hyperpop
Bestieh yes 😵😵
OMG why is nobody talking about Ayesha erotica she’s such a huge influence and hyper pop
Probably out of respect because Ayesha stepped away from the scene and doesn’t want to be a public figure. Love her tho. A-aaaayesha erotica! I’m the boom in your car! 💞
Ayesha is more electroclash
@@Tintintintin666 Um no
I've never seen Grimes linked to the hyperpop movement like this but you bring up a good point.
cause her music is not hyperpop?..
@@scheissedshe’s definitely mostly art pop
Great video loved looking at the timeline of this emerging genre. Do think not mentioning Ayesha Erotica was a little odd since, as far as I’m aware, she has had a big role in growing the hyper pop sound amongst a lot of the American artists mentioned here.
Agreed, I unfortunately had to ignore a few names that I was excited to talk about (I only mentioned Ayesha as producer on the Slayyyter song). The original version of the script had mentions of a bunch of artists who ultimately didn't make the final video, including Brooke Candy, Uffie, Poppy, Kero Kero Bonito, and even M.I.A. For the sake of even an *attempt* at brevity (and narrative coherence), I had to make some tough choices partially based on my own bias and taste.
@@NoahSimonFIlms can we get a part two talking about the hyperpop movement as a whole with an emphasis on various other artists who influenced and are laying the foundation for the genre?
@@whynot228 For sure!
Yeah, I'd really love a part 2 & hope it mentions the artists you left out, plus Crystal Castles. Alice Glass was actually an inspiration on Grimes vocal style & she's now making incredible solo music.
It'd be interesting to touch on how it has expanded to rap artists & is inclusive/has incorporated rap. There's Rico, Cupcakke, Brooke Candy, perhaps Zheani Sparkes & some of Charli's songs incorporate rap (Bricks, 5 in the Morning, Heartbreaks & Earthquakes etc. I think there's even old footage of her saying she wanted to be a rapper (perhaps half-jokingly).
Also !Franchescarr!
If you like Charli, check out Allie x, she’s amazing. She makes slightly chiller, more vibey electronic music, but she still has great beats and unique production
and now we're at brat🥹💚
Now adding the influence Dawn of Chromatica album for welcoming of all of these hyperpop artists is such a cool thing.
It saddens me to see MIA and Uffie being excluded in this video, when they’re literally the pioneers of this whole genre. They inspired most of these artists, including Charli.
/\/\ /\ Y /\ IS THE HYPERPOP BLUEPRINT!!!
@@marzblaq7267 I'd even go as far as to say Arular could be the blueprint.
Uffie ? Yes, MIA ? Absolutely not, do you even use your ears ?
As someone who loves electronic music this stuff is growing on me. I don’t know to explain it but it mixes like multiple genres and I can’t stop jamming to it
Do ya'll remember the Iconic Grimes, Sky, and Charli V magazine cover? Truly the holy trinity of new wave of pop.
"How Charlie XCX created a genre".... she did not????? Wtf is this video
The person who made this video needs to do a lot more research. Hyperpop was a thing long before Charli. And the wave that Charli got on existed long before she was onto the sound. You need to get into PC Music's/AG Cook's/Sophie's releases in 2012-2014, back when Charli was doing songs like "fancy" and "gold coins".. The sound of Hyperpop has been around for ages, especially with M.I.A and Santigold.
MIA doesn't sound anything like PC Music or Sophie lol
She’s just the face!! She helped popularize it but Sophie and AG Cook are the people behind it in my opinion
Sophie and AG working alongside Charli and using her a vessel. Def the most notable face of it I feel.
the title should be how SOPHIE created a new genre
Hol up Charli xcx did not "create" hyperpop. "Hyperpop" was a term coined by spotify in a playlist that grouped a bunch of artists with kind of similar synthesized sounds together. Charli helped popularize the pc music label and their sound though. But no, she did not create that sound. Almost all of her tracks are produced by AG Cook now, and their futuristic electronic sound is his doing.
I remember in the mid 2000’s being a barely conscious college student still being impressed by charlieXCX. Seeing this now makes me very happy.
Charli is so underrated 😭✨she‘s talented af
You really blacked out ansel I can't 🤭🤭
SOPHIE created it, Charli’s more like a protégée
saying charli is behind the entire hyper pop music scene is straight up ridiculous. SOPHIE and Arca undeniably started the trend of experimental music influencing pop and artists like Björk and M.I.A. pioneered it.
umru is soooo underrated, their remix of slayyters mine is such a bop
Y'all really gonna act like vocaloid and jpop and europop don't exist
That’s literally different
@@mickelkenner516 try listening to those songs and you'll know what I'm talking about. That music I listed is the definition of hyper pop and I listened to mostly that during my childhood
@@chai387 I literally listened to Kyary pamyu pamyu and that’s just preppy pop. I know that’s only one set of pop but the variations weren’t all there before
@@mickelkenner516 kyary pamyu pamyu doesn't represent all of jpop there's a wide variety of artists. I was thinking more of a pop sound with a bit of a y2k/techno mix to it I think you should try really any vocaloid song, and for jpop Perfume, Capsule and more. Also europop from the 2000s really represents this style as well. Try, Better off Alone, ATC's music, Cascade. I think the music definitely shows where Charli got her inspo from and Charli even wrote songs for kpop artists which is another genre that takes inspo from the genres I listed as well as American music
@@chai387 honestly you are right. I guess Hyper pop is a mix of all of these different variations
Imo its kinda weird to connect carly with charli as I've always felt like carly is making more of an 80's-90's inspired sound and not hyperpop
SOPHIE is the face of this genre , Charli XCX just rode on the hyperpop train
Yea
I'm glad i fell on this video cause It now explains a lot as to why I fell in love so hard with rina sawayama, bree runway and charli xcx this year
so we re just gonna ignore M.I.A??
Charli is far from the "creator" of "hyperpop."
I thought it was pc music
@@TheSrPancho AG cook is the creator of pc music and her albums ate produces by him so
Exactly, this title still bothers me, since she just lended her voice but was not rly part of the production - and tbh when charli started riding the hyperpop wave it didn't feel so authentic anymore
its so weird seeing all the songs i literally love being examined lmao
Wonderful narration! Thank you for attaching the song’s producers, too.
SOPHIE + Charli XCX is just so good
Nope, it’s credited to SOPHIE
Hyperpop is my absolute favorite genre. Its hardcore music for the gays and I absolutely love that we have it
we have to agree also that not all hyperpop songs are good, some really exagerate and make terrible songs & use "experimenting" as an excuse, im sorry but its the truth, but ofc theres a lot of good songs out of it
No, hardcore music for the gays is called industrial, gay men pioneered and helped the genre flourish since the late 70s, check your history
Is that title a troll bait or genuine take
I don't think charli created hyperpop, she's really only the face because she's the most visible out of all the artists that are within the hyperpop sphere.
Saying Charli created it is pretty disingenuous. She popularized it.
In fact, industry execs had been playing with the idea of a manufactured genre and were doing extensive research on up-and-coming artists who seemed to be doing similar sounds, which didn’t quite fit into a specific category; among them were Sophie, Hannah Diamond, Namasenda, Charli, AG Cook, and others. In a way, hyperpop was actually a big marketing strategy to create a scene and a genre. The industry saw a trend and capitalized on it.
You could argue gagas artpop and grimes art angels were huge foundations
I feel like marina deserves some credit too for family jewels
🤛🤛 one hundred percent
Nah she's a trend hopper
Shes more 2014 pop than 2014 pop
this was super interesting
This video is super good man great work holy
What r u talking about? I love Charli but GWEN STEFANI's created Hyperpop since 2003 with LAMB. Actually Charli XCX loves Gwen and sees her as one of her idols and inspirations & wants to work w her again.
it was actually robyn not gewn stefani
This is the fastest I've ever listened to my playlist
Legit it's as if u just, took it.
Damn that's one of the best videos about hyper pop I ever seen on TH-cam 👏🏽✨
This is literally the music they used to play in old movies if they were to go to the future
You really put Sophie outside the circle at 14:22 when she is the reason why Charli started making hyperpop music
Just make sure y'all credit the queer artists and listeners who are actually the ogs and powerhouses of this genre 😀
That Kid is CRIMINALLY underrated. my top artist of 2021 aswell
definitely would not say charli created it. popularized it maybe !