Rare Terreatec Profimedia Wavetable-Soundcard (Midia Sound 2000SB)

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  • @tekglitch4484
    @tekglitch4484 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have this card. It was also sold as the Sound FX Classic 3000 by Bluepoint Corporation (Which is the variant I have). I have the manual and driver floppy disk along with the break out cable for the joystick. Never seen another one... until now!

    • @patrickbonner3764
      @patrickbonner3764 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hi @@tekglitch4484: is it possible to get a copy of the floppy disk and manual for the community?

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tekglitch4484 Great insight, thanks! Found an article on muzine with a review of the card. Would you mind to create a driver disk image for preservation on vogonsdrivers or archive, or send me to do it? Also I really would be happy to try your drivers with this card. Grtz

    • @tekglitch4484
      @tekglitch4484 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pc-sound-legacy I will try and get a copy of the disk at least for you guys. I will try and figure out a way to scan in the manual. It may be a few weeks as my retro pc with a floppy drive is in storage currently.

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tekglitch4484 That's very kind of you - thanks!

  • @AbsoluteLambda
    @AbsoluteLambda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Grabbag sounds so right on this card it's unbelievable, Kinda reminds me of the gravis ultrasound patches a bit

  • @logipilot
    @logipilot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I connected a modern synth (yamaha mx 49) via GM to my Retro PC. Man those old tunes still rock! ❤

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@logipilot Absolutely! I once tried Doom, tracks on a non-GM compliant keyboard which of course sounds weird but a GM compliant one (and a Yamaha) sure will rock :)

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WOW so different to what I'm used to heard, awesome, weird and awesome, also very clean through my speakers, thanks a lot for sharing with us and to Paddy for lending you the card.!

  • @TechAmbr
    @TechAmbr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, what a wild card! Dream really had some unique takes on MIDI sound over the years. You're right about the output, that sounds so clean it's almost clinical. Needs some reverb or chorus to dirty it up a little 😆
    Cool sound card! Thanks for the demo!

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TechAmbr you're right - a little bit of effects would be great 😃 thanks for watching!

  • @CosmoRiderDE
    @CosmoRiderDE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Diese alten PCB Designs - herrlich! Ich warte noch immer auf meine PAS die ich zur Reparatur weggeschickt hab, vielleicht kannst davon auch mal ein Review machen, wenn sie wieder funktioniert. Es ist die erste von MediaVision, mit 2 Yamaha OPL2 Chips - FM Stereo möglich.

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CosmoRiderDE das wäre großartig! Ich drücke die Daumen, dass die Reperatur erfolgreich ist

  • @l3lue7hunder12
    @l3lue7hunder12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This reminds me of an early fusion of what essentially is the Terratec Base-1 with Terratec Promedia Midi-Daughterboard + CD-ROM interfaces. I can't figure out what the BS3393K is for though, and it doesn't seem to be the only Breve chip on there either. If I had to guess, one provides OPL-2 and the other is a DAC, leaving "windows soundsystem" to the soundport ?
    Very clean authentic sound too. I am impressed.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is nuts! Jam in a TSR-1 2450 to replace the 7805.

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tenminutetokyo2643 🤔idk what you mean. What is the 7805?

  • @Robertkopp84
    @Robertkopp84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was ne Karte. Kaum Grundrauschen und die Sounds sind alle klar wie Kloßbrühe.

    • @thomasr.5443
      @thomasr.5443 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bei mir hatte die damals ganz ordentlich gerauscht und der SB Pro sound war mies

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Robertkopp84 Diese rauscht wirklich überhaupt nicht, was ich auch beeindruckend fand. Ganz anders als man es eigentlich damals von Soubdblastern und anderen Karten mit verstärktem Ausgangcher kennt.

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasr.5443 Das mit der Soubdblastern Kompatibilität kann ich bestätigen. Hab nicht viel getestet, aber im SB Modus war sie immer Mono und SB Pro konnte sie garnicht. WSS ist hier wohl das Mittel der Wahl, wenn vom Spiel unterstützt.

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really interesting card and definitely has a unique sounding wavetable too. I like it, though it wouldn't be my goto card, but I would love it in the collection for when you want to change things up MIDI wise. Great video!

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vanessaira-Retro Thank you🌞
      I would like to have it in my collection as well.
      ( This one goes back in Paddy's collection soon) The proprietary wavetable module makes it very interesting to me.

  • @ShaiWa
    @ShaiWa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have also a Terratec Profimedia card that looks like this one but the Breve16 chip is unmarked and took some time and guessing that is was a Breve chip. The wavetable board seems to be different, had text: PCM168 v1.7 (c) MM-Power and the chips had the numbers: MMP3101, MMP4801, MMP5101. Remember that the midi wasn't as good as your recording. If my retro machine is finally fixed maybe I''l make some recordings.

  • @net_news
    @net_news 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sounds really good!! I like it!

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a suspicion. There's a lot of chips marked Breve which look like they are probably off the shelf chips rebranded for a vendor. Other weird rebrand are all the mpower and mmpower chips. Actually there is more yet. I wouldn't be surprised if the DSP202 U14 is an OPL3 clone.
    I think the Breve chip on the ISA bus directly the U15 is potentially an Opti 924/929, for Soundblaster compatibility. I can't quite figure out what U20 is, but i would investigate gal32 and flash ROM as potential candidates if i was so inclined.

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SianaGearz I thought the same! But Sndinit from Opti don't recognize the card and Windows just work with the Analog Devices via WSS (Didn't try other Opti drivers). The DSP202 suspiciously looked like a OPL3 clone but neither do adlib tracker IIcdetect OPL3 nor does it play stereo FM in games, just OPL2 FM. If you look closely, just ferry few pins are connected. Strange card

  • @Schule04
    @Schule04 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if that Mpower chip is the same as the DXP44Q, which is an OPL3 clone

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Schule04 I don't think so because this card only has opl2 which I don't see in that kind of chip-package so far. I guess the ym3812 (opl2 or clone) is on the DIP chip with the sticker on it. (But I'm not 100% sure)

  • @jenzGuitarist
    @jenzGuitarist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ich muss sagen, mir gefällt der WaveTable der Karte gar nicht mal so schlecht. Generell mag ich auch die Terratec Soundkarten, ich selbst habe hauptsächlich eine GOLD 16/96 in meinem 486er, wenn auch nicht so besonders wie diese, dennoch eine sehr schöne Karte :-) - Ich mag sowieso gerne andere Karten im Vergleich zu immer wieder den SoundBlaster(n), z. B. auch die Aztech WaveRider & Ensoniq Soundscape OPUS mag ich ganz gerne. So dann, viele Grüße, 🤘 jenzGuitarist 🤘

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jenzGuitarist Kann ich gut nachvollziehen. Möchte und Mag Terratec sehr. Bei Soundkarten gilt für mich, je älter und seltener desto interessanter :) Als daily driver I'm Retro-PC wähle ich gerne unkomplizierte einfache Karten wie ESS1868f in Kombination mit dem Wavetable der Wahl

    • @jenzGuitarist
      @jenzGuitarist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pc-sound-legacy Ganz genau, du sagst es. Die 16/96 gibt mir dann noch den ESFM dazu (für die AdLib/OPL-Sachen, z. B. ESFM+Siedler II, meine Kindheit ;)), und mit dem WaveTable Header + MIDI-Out ist man ganz flexibel. So kann mann schön hin und her wechseln zwischen internen WaveTable-Modulen oder externen Geräten.

  • @thomasr.5443
    @thomasr.5443 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Waaas??? Du hast die bekommen????

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thomasr.5443 Leihgabe. Geht jetzt nach dem Review und den Aufnahmen zurück :-) Wenn mir irgendwann auch eine über den Weg läuft und der Preis stimmt, schlage ich zu:)

  • @joaoc_PT
    @joaoc_PT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Monkey island does sound a lot different

    • @patrickbonner3764
      @patrickbonner3764 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Monkey Island is a MT-32 Game. The Soundbank is quiet different as GMidi 😕

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joaoc_PT I thought the same. Maybe there's a way to get the card into MT32 compatibility mode. Also the card very strictly separates the instruments to left and right channel which is uncomfortable in some tracks when listen with headphones

  • @rafalbielecki3591
    @rafalbielecki3591 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not very good, wanted to puke after hearing this

    • @pc-sound-legacy
      @pc-sound-legacy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rafalbielecki3591 ...then you have not heard ALS200 wavetable yet😉