narutouzumakijoshua I study a Shroomed games and Plup's tech chase and aerial combo game is MUCH better than Shroomed. Shroomed has an amazing SHFLL and Tilt combo game. Plup pulled a few combos that I didn't know could happen such as u-air slap or u-air u-air(at low percents but still). I feel as if as Plup explores more of Shiek's neutral outside of chaingrabs we will see the Fox match up go from 60-40 to 50-50.
17:16 I'm not sure what they were watching but the last seconds of the last stock, Mango outplayed the living shit out of Plup. lol Maybe next time though, I think everyone can agree that Plup is more than capable of defeating Mango.
Kitsune91 Emphasis being "on the last seconds of the last stock." I would say that was more a combination of luck from the stage transformation and just a spark of Mango brilliance. On the whole, it felt like Plup was controlling the pace of the last match, holding the stock/% lead until the very end as well as maintaining better stage control, which is why I think Scar said that Plup outplayed him.
Emphasis completely being on the last seconds of the last stock. Sure, luck can be considered a factor due to the specific transformation but Plup choked with his punishes and got outplayed that stock as a result. Can't really say someone outplayed their opponent when that same someone lost the same match is what I was leaning toward. I feel it was said more in the spur of the moment.
Plup kept using down B (Windmill) during all the games and mango got fed up with it. What mango did at the end was 100% planned before the game even started. He thought to himself that he would just wait for the windmill transformation as a way to show plup how he has windmills too.
Plup: "I'm gonna beat Mango. I'm actually gonna beat Mango. All I have to do is not drop it." And then he second-guessed himself to oblivion. But Plup, you belong here, on this stage. You belong here, and then some.
Amazing set. Play was incredible by Plup but if he'd been able to get a few more of those tech chases I really don't think it would have been as close as it was.
My jaw legit dropped when plump lost at the end I had no idea what was going on I didn't know who was hitting who I was so hyped I thought it was plump with some nice moves and then I just hear that mango won and tossed my phone across my room like they said can't wait to see him at evo
Press 1 if the you think the windmill didn't save mango. Press 1 if plup should've went with a fair instead of up smash THEN fair. He's not yet good enough to recognize those little details. Had he faired it would've been over but instead he popped him up then faired giving mango the ability to recover.
ojgom17 true but has he beat hbox in tourney using sheik? I don't think so and the shiek puff mu is bad for shiek. Plup would have beaten mango and leffen anyways if he didn't get out janked by stadium
ojgom17 shroomed had a set with hbox similar to thus one at apex. Considering how much harder the Sheik-Puff match up is in the current meta, I'd say beating hbox with Sheik is as impressive as beating mango with Sheik.
starfox300 16:55 The black guy in between Plup and Mango. He commentated Melee Top 32 till Top 8 with D1. Lol EE is a huge Mango fanboy though, he said Mango is the best player onstream vs Shroomed and then got 2-0'd ROFL
FortWhenTeaThyme that's ok Axe is next son, plup is good too not gonna lie. Westballz has a fuck ton of potential to be a god too but he choked just like shroomed. You can't base skill on 1 tournament. I mean, we ALL know that mango would have beaten Hbox but he choked.
I'm Glad Mango won , he uses real skills, not just grab my opponent till i can try to 1 shot him. either way, both players intense skills. I haven't played the game in over 5 years, i use to Main Fox, of course in my neighbor hood, out of all my friends, my greatest opponent was Sheik aka Brian, i was Number 2 out of all my friends.
Damn. And slowly, all the holdouts with their non top tier characters are slowly leaving their characters to main top tiers. No more samus or ganondorf or even falcon soon 20XX sooner than we think.
![Paragon 2015 - Leffen (Fox) Vs. [A] Armada (Peach, Fox) SSBM Losers Quarters - Melee](/img/n.gif)
"Water transformation is coming up. That helps plup."
Toph 2015
ZetTroxX Fire or Rock would have made it even worse for Plup.
ZetTroxX Commentator's curse at it's finest
That makes sense
god damn
You could be referring to so many parts in this match
Mason Robertson he wasn't talking about the match he just felt the instinct to comment god damn
Instablaster.
16:55 EE with the "he's COOKIN" gesture cracks me up every time
W I N D M I L L B O Y S
BizerkPixel the windmill generated the energy that Mango needed to win
starfox300 lol
BizerkPixel C9 | Windmill
***** omg haha
"Water transformation coming out that helps Plup" - Toph 2015
Plup got stadium'd twice lol
Scr7 777 1
3 times now T. T
Poor Plup
+Joyce Zhang 4
Scr7Mkds There's this character called Fox who is so broken that every character loses to him on Stadium.
5 if you count him falling through
GRsmash Top 10 Heartbreaks again?
Press 1 if you feel bad for Plup :c
Zakken 1
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Zakken 1
Zakken 1
Zakken 1
Hungry was so hype after the 4th game. Dranking water. 13:10
Windmill is the new randall.
My god this set was unreal..you can't make this stuff up lol
"Sounds like a divided crowd."
Could not be more clearly a universal chant for Plup.
Hypest set so far.
"We know that for a fact. By looking at the calendar."
I didn't know Frodo played melee.
Heartbreaker... but Plup omg so good. Pls come back even better
GO PLUP
zipzip070 He looked awesome.
zipzip070 he just looks like a slightly worse version of shroomed..shroomed stomped mango.
narutouzumakijoshua I study a Shroomed games and Plup's tech chase and aerial combo game is MUCH better than Shroomed. Shroomed has an amazing SHFLL and Tilt combo game. Plup pulled a few combos that I didn't know could happen such as u-air slap or u-air u-air(at low percents but still). I feel as if as Plup explores more of Shiek's neutral outside of chaingrabs we will see the Fox match up go from 60-40 to 50-50.
What was Scar singing at 12:30
Talon/Reptar Sugar We're Going Down by Fall Out Boy
LardBucket oh duh its so obvious now, I couldnt think of the name, thanks man.
Talon/Reptar Darude, Sandstorm
This is the best match I've ever seen and I've seen pretty much everything VGB has uploaded. Damn what a match what a ridiculous ending >_
how old is plup?
19
2:20 Plup was actually missing the tech-chases because he meaning to dash, but input them during the turn around.
Holy shit that was so close, Plup was so good this set!
That hitbox at 8:31
All Plup needed to do was short hop fair instead of that up-smash at the end and he would have won :(
MoshJarcus nah, scars an idiot. he would've missed a fair there. plup up smashed for a reason
5:45 scar talking about plup's fox. I didn't even notice this at first. Funny to see plup's fox a year later at Shine
16:53
EE got so hype in the back lol.
+ZerefX gaddamn he popped off like he won himself lmao
I love how Toph said the water stage is good for Plup and then it ends up being the reason he lost. GG man
00:26 sheik upb gets shined and then sheik second jumps?????????? please explain
Plup saved his double jump, and used it after he got shined
Such a hype set!
dat windmill doe
17:16 I'm not sure what they were watching but the last seconds of the last stock, Mango outplayed the living shit out of Plup. lol Maybe next time though, I think everyone can agree that Plup is more than capable of defeating Mango.
Kitsune91 Emphasis being "on the last seconds of the last stock." I would say that was more a combination of luck from the stage transformation and just a spark of Mango brilliance. On the whole, it felt like Plup was controlling the pace of the last match, holding the stock/% lead until the very end as well as maintaining better stage control, which is why I think Scar said that Plup outplayed him.
Emphasis completely being on the last seconds of the last stock. Sure, luck can be considered a factor due to the specific transformation but Plup choked with his punishes and got outplayed that stock as a result. Can't really say someone outplayed their opponent when that same someone lost the same match is what I was leaning toward. I feel it was said more in the spur of the moment.
***** loool
Mango vs Plup Ft. Windmill
Man, I've been playing a lot of Smash4 and enjoying it but it will just never be this good.
Gosh, this match was amazing. So hype
As a Mango fan, watching this set live was the most nerve wracking moment of my life. I nearly cried.
was macd vs mango streamed?
Super sad for the way the set ended for Plup. Awesome Sheik play, can't wait to see how he does at EVO :)
This makes me want to go watch the set they played at evo.
0:25
Plup uses Sheik's up-B without using her double jump. Super hard to pull off but it can be a great reverse edgeguard tool. How is he so good
Plup kept using down B (Windmill) during all the games and mango got fed up with it.
What mango did at the end was 100% planned before the game even started. He thought to himself that he would just wait for the windmill transformation as a way to show plup how he has windmills too.
Good stuff Plup, Keep your head up bro because your Sheik is going places.
Who else got that "How to pulp mango" vid trying to look for this?
Plup: "I'm gonna beat Mango. I'm actually gonna beat Mango. All I have to do is not drop it." And then he second-guessed himself to oblivion.
But Plup, you belong here, on this stage. You belong here, and then some.
Stadium just broke my heart
“Totally divided crowd”
PLUP PLUP PLUP PLUP
Plup's shield drops are so crispy
Amazing set. Play was incredible by Plup but if he'd been able to get a few more of those tech chases I really don't think it would have been as close as it was.
Damn GIMR I am impressed with your speed.
It's rare
***** It's unheard of, if he can do it this fast why are weeklies 3 weeks behind
thesessygiraffe Cuz this is far more important.
Rad-O-Don sadly from the looks of it he probably won't upload the top 16 or top 32 matches since he already uploaded top 8 :/
"Plup a stock!" - Scar, 2015
Loki vs Captain America right here.
hungrybox on the back was super hyped
Not as hype as EE tho.
I literally cried at the end of this.
Who knocked Plup into losers at this tourney?
That's it. Pokemon stadium needs to be banned
criticaldrive97 Yeah... because using windmill platforms to recover and extend combos is so broken, right?
Batman imgur.com/4eNXd6K
criticaldrive97 My B.
criticaldrive97 But really, it is kind of dumb that there's only one CP in the game and it blatantly favors fastfallers (and is janky as hell).
1000g2g3g4g800999 It mainly favors Fox though. CF doesn't get a lot out of going to PS. For Falco, it's usually not preferred to 3-platform stages.
Fantastic set
17:00 EE goin ham in the back LOLOL
Remind me to never get grabbed by Plup.
Damn Plup played soo good!
Hbox popping off every time Plup gets a grab on Mang0 haha
yet again, the poke stadium windmill decides who wins between mango and plup
My jaw legit dropped when plump lost at the end I had no idea what was going on I didn't know who was hitting who I was so hyped I thought it was plump with some nice moves and then I just hear that mango won and tossed my phone across my room like they said can't wait to see him at evo
Sorry Plup* not plump auto corrects :p
mango looked so hungover
wizzy, plup are young gawds and are the future of smash
What just happened?
Excellent Commentary.
Man, a fair after the dash attack at 16:38 and it's over. Instead, Plup went for the usmash...
I think Hbox was cheering enough for the whole venue
Press 1 if the you think the windmill didn't save mango.
Press 1 if plup should've went with a fair instead of up smash THEN fair. He's not yet good enough to recognize those little details. Had he faired it would've been over but instead he popped him up then faired giving mango the ability to recover.
+midocrimsonfate 1 the upsmash was so random
GRsmash Top Ten "How did that just hit" = 8:29
Don't worry Plup..you'll tech chase yourself to victory next time.
Plup got robbed...
Melee at it finest
That darn windmill.
Esam misses a high five in the crowd at 6:45 lol
It sucks to see Plup lose like this but if he keeps playing this he'll be the best sheik in no time
ojgom17 true but has he beat hbox in tourney using sheik? I don't think so and the shiek puff mu is bad for shiek. Plup would have beaten mango and leffen anyways if he didn't get out janked by stadium
ojgom17 Lol alright fair enough, Shroomed for best shiek...for now,
lolm2k
42rockjock what? no. M2K > every other Sheik
ojgom17 shroomed had a set with hbox similar to thus one at apex. Considering how much harder the Sheik-Puff match up is in the current meta, I'd say beating hbox with Sheik is as impressive as beating mango with Sheik.
lol mango needing the windmill to win. get good old man
etc2913 What mango did on that windmill was pretty damn impressive.
Robert Humphrey no it wasn't lmao
oh my b
etc2913 Blame the stage not him lol. Can't blame someone for using something on the stage.
No Waifu No Laifu You right. You could totally have beaten Plup. lololololololol
Ahh, always good to see a fox beat a sheik.
Amazing!
Press 1 if you think the windmill is a troll XD
whatever, mang0s combo after he shielded plups bair on the windmill was sick
Man that hurts
Please, dont let Scar comments any of Mango matches...
PLANGO PLANGO PLANGO PLANGO
chungster239 plango teams?
I mix up plup and borp a lot
Lold
I mix up mang0 and borp alot
Still crying over the fact that Plup dropped Samus :c
EE popoff at the end ROFL, even throwing freedom rockets at florida hahahah
tjfrison Who is EE?
starfox300 16:55 The black guy in between Plup and Mango. He commentated Melee Top 32 till Top 8 with D1.
Lol EE is a huge Mango fanboy though, he said Mango is the best player onstream vs Shroomed and then got 2-0'd ROFL
im gonna go cry or something.....
Doesn't Plup look like Paul Rudd? Anyone?
i've only ever seen plup with very short hair, so the long curly hair looked like a wig to me. idk why, but it's so funny.
We need plup to join the gods.
VirgateSpy nah shroomed son.
narutouzumakijoshua Lol get rekt. Evo just proved him right.
FortWhenTeaThyme that's ok Axe is next son, plup is good too not gonna lie. Westballz has a fuck ton of potential to be a god too but he choked just like shroomed. You can't base skill on 1 tournament. I mean, we ALL know that mango would have beaten Hbox but he choked.
buster brown
The GOAT
I want plup vs amsa!!
PLANGO PLANGO PLANGO PLANGO PLANGO PLANGO!
Never in my life.
I feel like toph and scar were so biased against mango this tournament
I'm Glad Mango won , he uses real skills, not just grab my opponent till i can try to 1 shot him. either way, both players intense skills. I haven't played the game in over 5 years, i use to Main Fox, of course in my neighbor hood, out of all my friends, my greatest opponent was Sheik aka Brian, i was Number 2 out of all my friends.
Plups still a pup, he got stadium fright
Damn. And slowly, all the holdouts with their non top tier characters are slowly leaving their characters to main top tiers. No more samus or ganondorf or even falcon soon 20XX sooner than we think.
Press 1 if you feel bad for plup
This gives me so much hope as a young smasher.
But fuck this, I'm 13.