What a joke of an answer from Albo. Anyone in the industry knows that native forests can be sustainably harvested. Now we are just going to be importing the same wood from overseas native forests. It is sheer lunacy.
More forest has been lost by Victorian DPI and Shire bushfire mismanagement than 50 years of timber harvesting. Timber workers love and respect forests.
@Johan Hurter take a drive. Talk to locals and then amend your comment and perspective. Facts. Even way back to the Ash Wednesday bushfires 40+ years ago. State forest mismanaged.
@@paddlesmcbean2366 typically negligent and lazy land management practices from people who do not own or live off the land. All care no responsibility is the problem with State and Shire management and regulations. Ask anyone close to past and present large uncontrollable burns.
They already burn..thats why they lock them up so bushfires which get deliberately lit can take hold then we blame climate change and the whole merry go round starts all over again
Rod Because they are being paid by global entities. Their job is to destroy on orders of foreign entities. They couldn't give a stuff about Australia. All sell outs and bought and paid for
300 million is being invested into forestry to start with - keep up or get left behind. Darren really needs to get on board with the 300 million and secure jobs, as EG is hugely affected. There are plenty of skilled forestry workers that can contribute and work towards a more sustainable timber industry. It is a shame Darren is Liberal...even tho they shat on him He will become a rebel without a cause, and probably lose his intergrity Now, he is on the front bench - running with the most corrupted mob of politicians that have robbed and looted Australia.
@Wild Flower you really believe labor and greens 😂🤣😂😅,the building industry is short on materials, Australia has a housing crisis and labor is closing timber mills while increasing immigration and closing power stations
@wildflower8425 mate, I'm a third generation sawmiller. The fact is we, as an industry, no longer have the ability to create a product or a viable business model to match supply with demands. Importing hardwood timber using Chinese coal/iron money is not a sustainable business model, and is extremely financially uneconomical. Labor and the greens have locked up the state forests. Farmers can't fence, and builders can't build. But the city leeches keep giving their vote to "feel-good" faux environmental bullshit A lot of damage is already done. Best case scenario, if we change course now the timber industry could be back at 2015 production levels again by about 2068.
Albo is going to plant sustainable forests how long does he think it takes for a sapling to mature enough to make a fence post let alone a beam for a house. we are not as stupid as he wants us to be.
@@sturod2016 The Sack Dan Andrew's Party was one of many set up by the Labor party too skim preference votes at the last Victorian election. The magic of voter fraud using preferences. Good old preferences keeping the major two in power regardless of who we actually vote for. Do you know Bill Gates owns the Scytl software in our tabulation machine's which is used in the finalising of an election here in Australia? Also the AEC don't know if the tabulation machine's where audited before & after the Federal Election. It's amazing how Federal Labor with only 32.6% of the primary vote, their lowest primary vote in their history. Yet they somehow win the election🤷 I also find it interesting that Bill turned up after Albo won the election & Albo handed him 230m cheque. In fact every election in the last 18-24 month's in Australia has been won by those who push the same narrative & agenda as Bill & Co...
I'm an American and admittedly a bit ignorant to your Governance. Could Anyone twll Me or inform Me if You can vote out a sirting PM? And if so how does or would that work?
I certainly would not have apologised to Albanese or withdrawn my statement. Albanese had broken his promise to the Timber workers and did not have the guts to admit it😡
I was there in the audience in parliament as this was happening. I was hoping he wouldn't withdraw the question since he was getting kicked out anyway.
Their is precedent for the Governor-General to dismiss parliament, financial incompetence was the justification used in the past. This neo-apartheid nonsense that the government is promoting should qualify as a serious, unjustified threat to the Australian constitution. All of this expensive "Voice" political campaign could be stopped immediately by terminating the current administration.
I am from Gippsland and was told from a very young age how the GREENS will ruin everything in Gippsland if voted in. They have weaselled their way in and I am seeing it happen in every major industry we have down this way! Our towns are shadows of what they used to be, population has plummeted and only held up by government sending processed boat people to live here. Blood on the hands of anyone who takes away jobs without giving a new option for work. Where are the plantations and why are they not ready to transition straight away from native harvesting to plantations? Not ready and in place? Then it is BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
The Skynuts are raving and ranting again. It always happens before an election hammering or a Referendum wipe out. Bring on an early Federal Election. 😮😊😂😅
Our native forests should not longer be cut. Workers should be looked after, but you cannot just keep on deforesting Australia. We are a desert nation as it is.
Nobody is or has ever been deforesting Australia. This is laughably far from the truth. At 8.05 million hectares, Victoria's state forests represent about about 7% of all Australian state forests. Of those 8.05 million hectares, only about 3k are harvested annually. This is 0.04% Once harvested, a site is managed for regeneration. The same site won't be harvested again for approx 45 years. Just to be clear, this means the percentage of Australian state forest harvested in Victoria is 0.000028% annually. This practice will cease comoletely on Jan 1st 2024. A full 6 years earlier than the 2030 date Albo claimed during his campaign. When the hardwood timber industry goes belly up, 4000 jobs go with it, and 500 million dollars is removed from the local economy. Also the current timver shortages will become extreme, and cost billions for the building and construction industry. Which makes up 8% of the state economy. But hey, inner city greenies want to feel good about themselves, and will vote for whoever panders to their ignorance.
@@jacksonjdr94 There is little doubt that the public is fed misinformation from both sides of this question. However it is only in more recent years that the problem of logging our native forests has become an issue. Most of the natural timbers so cherished by the early timber industry took hundreds of years to reach maturity. Without concerned members of the public there would be no limits as the early companies showed no interest in conservation. The trees, in 40 years cannot grow to maturity, so they are in a continual state of harvest, and that is not conservation. Humans should learn to exist with the environment and not destroy it. At Wittenoom in West Australia hundreds were employed in the asbestos industry. The Industry was closed to save human life, and this became an immediate imitative even though jobs were lost. Protection of our forests will do the same thing over a longer term. The destruction of our old growth forests, although responsible for many jobs as you say is carried out for the ultimate benefit of a few. Looking after the workers should be a priority.
@oldgolfer7435 @oldgolfer7435 your narrative is all emotion and devoid of any fact. Insinuating I have provided "misinformation" without offering any correction is pretty poor form. The proportion of state forests that is available for harvest has always been relatively minuscule. The vast majority, over 90% has never been harvested. And now they're closing it off completely due to ignorant greenie idealogues who think **any** tree harvested anywhere is one too many. These people have no concept of how large Australia's forests are compared to the relatively small yet vital industry they're actively trying to wipe from existence. I am a third generation sawniller here in Victoria and I know for a fact that environmentalist narratives of unsustainable logging practices suggesting that forests could be ever be depleted are literally pure propaganda with no basis in reality. The stupid thing is, we as a nation have begun importing inferior breeds of hardwood timbers from nations with far less responsible logging practices, and making ourselves complicit in those practices. The most environmentally responsible thing we could possibly do is supply our own countries demand with sustainable logging business models. But the government won't let us, because of ignorant greenie voters.
I support the timber industry only the way Japanese grow timber ,they have 700 yr old trees that they prune with bonsai methods an they trees grow branches over what's prunes to be a wide tree like those bonsai then shoots grow straight up that are branches equivalent to the trees we grow every tree has about 15 or more of these branches that are straight an without knots in the wood high quality, an the trees go to seed an from this the industry is grown bigger, it's different methodology that supports native animal life, the tree isn't growing it's root system at the same rate as the branches like the way we grow trees, that cut back the tree grows back more prolific than it would naturally grow because the root system is built up bigger, one trees branches would fill several trucks
That the regenerated tree being cut back grows the wood back faster the alternative, a better wood factory the regrowth after being cut back is faster grown wood,once the tree base is established you just cut the straight branches that grow up like suckers straight
I think the native trees can only be prunes there has to be a way to complete the tree life cycle to get the seed to grow an nurture each species, you could take only two thirds the tree
Somehow when Japanese get the tree to grow wide so there's maximum surface or the tree then these sucker shoots after pruned back still take time to grow maybe 5 yrs faster that it would of taken ten trees to grow from seed, even more 15 or 20 trees works in the sense of growing sprouts to a saleable length from the one tree that's like a mat of growth
Omfg labor lied…It can’t be albo who loves tennis and drinking beer and showpony ing around weddings with bikers and drug lords, Certainly he wouldn’t lie………lol…
What a joke of an answer from Albo. Anyone in the industry knows that native forests can be sustainably harvested. Now we are just going to be importing the same wood from overseas native forests. It is sheer lunacy.
Even more serious is energy policy based upon ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions.
Marles laughed and PM politicised Question. Thousands of workers redundant.
I wouldn't show any respect the utter clownshow "parliament" under Albosneezy
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Ol' greasy albanese.
They're worried about a comment being "Un-parliamentary" when the whole country is going to 💩 Victoria is leading the way.
It's slander without backing. A parliamentarian that merely says it without backing it up with irrefutable evidence is liable to be sued.
We all know they are not to smart in Victoria.
It was Melbourne that re-elected Andrews.
It's the Eshay Centrelink capital of Australia
More forest has been lost by Victorian DPI and Shire bushfire mismanagement than 50 years of timber harvesting. Timber workers love and respect forests.
@Johan Hurter typical unbalanced argument. Purely emotive fact free bias.
@Johan Hurter take a drive. Talk to locals and then amend your comment and perspective. Facts. Even way back to the Ash Wednesday bushfires 40+ years ago. State forest mismanaged.
@@paddlesmcbean2366 typically negligent and lazy land management practices from people who do not own or live off the land. All care no responsibility is the problem with State and Shire management and regulations. Ask anyone close to past and present large uncontrollable burns.
This will be the death knell for the building industry.
ANALEASY BOOSTING CHINA TIMBER iMPORTS TO AUSTRALIA
Unparliamentry? Thats a giggle, the whole dam muppet show is unparliamentry......
The worst Prime Minister we have ever had 🤡
We've had a few clowns, I'm not sure he's the worst, but definitely up there.
Say no to homosexuality, promiscuity, tattoos and drugs.
Yep, and he hates all Australian workers, not just forestry workers.
Stupid and false statement. How about Bill McMahon, Tony Abbot and Scott Morrison ?
The now abandoned forest will burn up due to lack of management. Well done labor.
and the greens don't forget to thank them for all the bushfires too.
@@smartgoku9048 I agree green in name only.
@@raclark2730 watermelons that's what the greens are. Green on the outside red as a commie on the inside...
They already burn..thats why they lock them up so bushfires which get deliberately lit can take hold then we blame climate change and the whole merry go round starts all over again
@@saltyaussie7702 That's them alright.
This might be considered a laughing matter.... if we weren't paying for it!
Apart from rolling spit around his mouth, albanese said sweet f all
The wabble heads that sit behind is bloody annoying and distracting. Dont blame that fella for condemning Albo
FFS. This has to be the worst cabinet in history. NO F****G IDEA
So you think it’s funny PM,we the people don’t.We the people are not happy with the way you are running the country.
So sad. On your bike 👋👋.
wE tHe PeOpLe
But they still vote for the lying idiot.
Which people? Certainly not the majority his got almost a record approval rating. Stop acting like you speak for the majority. You don't.
Albosleazy hard at work destroying the economy !!
Western Australia has the same logging ban...
Jobs, families abandoned...
Do Labor think everyone can go out and grow Mungbeand...
Why are these labor front bench children who sit and giggle absolutely pathetic people in these actions and in these seats that they occupy
Rod
Because they are being paid by global entities. Their job is to destroy on orders of foreign entities. They couldn't give a stuff about Australia. All sell outs and bought and paid for
They obviously learned it from Scumbo’s mob.
truth hurts
Albo starting to feel the pressure at last.
Yeah he’s quaking in his boots at 55% approval lmao
@@dickjohnson5623 derp derp derp dunny boy nut job
Albo sleezy Victoria election was rigged you know Victorian know it
@@dickjohnson5623 hey dick, get rid of that crappy ford mate 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Vic is bankrupt...Dan has caved into the loopy greens
Love the Nationals
The timber mill workers have voted for Labor all their lives, and that's what they get in return, totally shafted!
300 million is being invested into forestry to start with - keep up or get left behind.
Darren really needs to get on board with the 300 million and secure jobs, as EG is hugely affected. There are plenty of skilled forestry workers that can contribute and work towards a more sustainable timber industry.
It is a shame Darren is Liberal...even tho they shat on him He will become a rebel without a cause, and probably lose his intergrity Now, he is on the front bench - running with the most corrupted mob of politicians that have robbed and looted Australia.
@Wild Flower you really believe labor and greens 😂🤣😂😅,the building industry is short on materials, Australia has a housing crisis and labor is closing timber mills while increasing immigration and closing power stations
@wildflower8425 mate, I'm a third generation sawmiller.
The fact is we, as an industry, no longer have the ability to create a product or a viable business model to match supply with demands.
Importing hardwood timber using Chinese coal/iron money is not a sustainable business model, and is extremely financially uneconomical.
Labor and the greens have locked up the state forests. Farmers can't fence, and builders can't build.
But the city leeches keep giving their vote to "feel-good" faux environmental bullshit
A lot of damage is already done.
Best case scenario, if we change course now the timber industry could be back at 2015 production levels again by about 2068.
ITS NOT FUNNY ALBO.
Mr albozo can’t handle the truth and calls on him to apologise because feelings matter more than facts. This PM is a pathetic embarrassment
The Australian dollar is falling in a heap, financial markets have woken up to Labor.
Perfectly good question. Did Albanese cry again because the little question upset him? 😢
Albo is going to plant sustainable forests how long does he think it takes for a sapling to mature enough to make a fence post let alone a beam for a house. we are not as stupid as he wants us to be.
If the voice lets you plant or pay them to let you
Actually Victoria Labor went from 45 % primary vote last election to 36% vote primary vote. How did Labor increase thier vote?
That didn’t. The magic of preferences.
@@sturod2016 The Sack Dan Andrew's Party was one of many set up by the Labor party too skim preference votes at the last Victorian election.
The magic of voter fraud using preferences.
Good old preferences keeping the major two in power regardless of who we actually vote for.
Do you know Bill Gates owns the Scytl software in our tabulation machine's which is used in the finalising of an election here in Australia?
Also the AEC don't know if the tabulation machine's where audited before & after the Federal Election.
It's amazing how Federal Labor with only 32.6% of the primary vote, their lowest primary vote in their history. Yet they somehow win the election🤷
I also find it interesting that Bill turned up after Albo won the election & Albo handed him 230m cheque.
In fact every election in the last 18-24 month's in Australia has been won by those who push the same narrative & agenda as Bill & Co...
I'm an American and admittedly a bit ignorant to your Governance. Could Anyone twll Me or inform Me if You can vote out a sirting PM? And if so how does or would that work?
I certainly would not have apologised to Albanese or withdrawn my statement. Albanese had broken his promise to the Timber workers and did not have the guts to admit it😡
Albanise talks like my butcher , and is taking a butching skills to the electricity grid , Andrews clone
no wonder the the joint is rooted
He hates Australia full stop should be jailed for treason
Labo(u)r are unparliamentary.
I was there in the audience in parliament as this was happening. I was hoping he wouldn't withdraw the question since he was getting kicked out anyway.
This speaker is a problem and needs kicking out of parliament
I would of told the government not go expecting the forestry workers to be readily available for any future forest fires!
how this for parliamentary ya bludgers? 😹😹🥳
Their is precedent for the Governor-General to dismiss parliament, financial incompetence was the justification used in the past. This neo-apartheid nonsense that the government is promoting should qualify as a serious, unjustified threat to the Australian constitution. All of this expensive "Voice" political campaign could be stopped immediately by terminating the current administration.
The speaker just called him gutless what a coward
3:57
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Touching anything native will soon be banned.
I am from Gippsland and was told from a very young age how the GREENS will ruin everything in Gippsland if voted in. They have weaselled their way in and I am seeing it happen in every major industry we have down this way! Our towns are shadows of what they used to be, population has plummeted and only held up by government sending processed boat people to live here. Blood on the hands of anyone who takes away jobs without giving a new option for work. Where are the plantations and why are they not ready to transition straight away from native harvesting to plantations? Not ready and in place? Then it is BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
As always "Labour" means you lose your job and they don't care
It's trumps fault..
Lies. Lies. Lies Lies..
The MP seems on the ball to me.
Did albanese say dont bother talking dan beat you in the election?
Labor breaking promises (lying) is standard operating procedure
The Skynuts are raving and ranting again. It always happens before an election hammering or a Referendum wipe out. Bring on an early Federal Election. 😮😊😂😅
Talk about gov speak, his lips move but he say nothing.
Whoa, that escalated quickly... Darren Chester went Kanye west on him.... that was awwwwkwarrdddddd
Great people. )
Would suggest Albo was simply reiterating the views of his comrade Adam. Look back to what happened to timber companies in Tasmania some decades back.
Husbands and wives become dependents of full time working spouses when centreline carves up their disability payments. creating the 5th dependant.
10s of thousands of people are about to lose there jobs and labour find it funny
Where do we get the hardwood for the million houses Albo wants to build
Import it from a third world country where nothing is protected
There are other materials used to build homes. Look at how many steel structures are around for example.
Hate is a strong word
Well l hate Albanese and l hate Andrews. Strong or not that's a fact.
I hate him even detest the idiot...
Love one nation our Pauline true patriot
A true braindead, irrelevant, oxygen thieving, racist scum ginger fishwife.
Is that legal?
Our native forests should not longer be cut. Workers should be looked after, but you cannot just keep on deforesting Australia. We are a desert nation as it is.
Nobody is or has ever been deforesting Australia.
This is laughably far from the truth.
At 8.05 million hectares, Victoria's state forests represent about about 7% of all Australian state forests.
Of those 8.05 million hectares, only about 3k are harvested annually. This is 0.04%
Once harvested, a site is managed for regeneration. The same site won't be harvested again for approx 45 years.
Just to be clear, this means the percentage of Australian state forest harvested in Victoria is 0.000028% annually.
This practice will cease comoletely on Jan 1st 2024. A full 6 years earlier than the 2030 date Albo claimed during his campaign.
When the hardwood timber industry goes belly up, 4000 jobs go with it, and 500 million dollars is removed from the local economy.
Also the current timver shortages will become extreme, and cost billions for the building and construction industry. Which makes up 8% of the state economy.
But hey, inner city greenies want to feel good about themselves, and will vote for whoever panders to their ignorance.
@@jacksonjdr94 There is little doubt that the public is fed misinformation from both sides of this question. However it is only in more recent years that the problem of logging our native forests has become an issue. Most of the natural timbers so cherished by the early timber industry took hundreds of years to reach maturity. Without concerned members of the public there would be no limits as the early companies showed no interest in conservation. The trees, in 40 years cannot grow to maturity, so they are in a continual state of harvest, and that is not conservation.
Humans should learn to exist with the environment and not destroy it. At Wittenoom in West Australia hundreds were employed in the asbestos industry. The Industry was closed to save human life, and this became an immediate imitative even though jobs were lost. Protection of our forests will do the same thing over a longer term.
The destruction of our old growth forests, although responsible for many jobs as you say is carried out for the ultimate benefit of a few. Looking after the workers should be a priority.
@oldgolfer7435 @oldgolfer7435 your narrative is all emotion and devoid of any fact. Insinuating I have provided "misinformation" without offering any correction is pretty poor form.
The proportion of state forests that is available for harvest has always been relatively minuscule. The vast majority, over 90% has never been harvested.
And now they're closing it off completely due to ignorant greenie idealogues who think **any** tree harvested anywhere is one too many.
These people have no concept of how large Australia's forests are compared to the relatively small yet vital industry they're actively trying to wipe from existence.
I am a third generation sawniller here in Victoria and I know for a fact that environmentalist narratives of unsustainable logging practices suggesting that forests could be ever be depleted are literally pure propaganda with no basis in reality.
The stupid thing is, we as a nation have begun importing inferior breeds of hardwood timbers from nations with far less responsible logging practices, and making ourselves complicit in those practices.
The most environmentally responsible thing we could possibly do is supply our own countries demand with sustainable logging business models.
But the government won't let us, because of ignorant greenie voters.
AnAl is still breaking pwomishes evwee day.
It looks like Chester is looking at ousting Littleproud ,they are all duds in that gang.
What a bias speaker you have , protect my Fascist leader and worship the ground he walks on !
Say no to homosexuality, promiscuity, tattoos and drugs.
I support the timber industry only the way Japanese grow timber ,they have 700 yr old trees that they prune with bonsai methods an they trees grow branches over what's prunes to be a wide tree like those bonsai then shoots grow straight up that are branches equivalent to the trees we grow every tree has about 15 or more of these branches that are straight an without knots in the wood high quality, an the trees go to seed an from this the industry is grown bigger, it's different methodology that supports native animal life, the tree isn't growing it's root system at the same rate as the branches like the way we grow trees, that cut back the tree grows back more prolific than it would naturally grow because the root system is built up bigger, one trees branches would fill several trucks
That the regenerated tree being cut back grows the wood back faster the alternative, a better wood factory the regrowth after being cut back is faster grown wood,once the tree base is established you just cut the straight branches that grow up like suckers straight
I think the native trees can only be prunes there has to be a way to complete the tree life cycle to get the seed to grow an nurture each species, you could take only two thirds the tree
Cutting the tree back to stump for that extra length of wood to fit on the truck is double handling planting an jettisoning the prolific regrowth
Somehow when Japanese get the tree to grow wide so there's maximum surface or the tree then these sucker shoots after pruned back still take time to grow maybe 5 yrs faster that it would of taken ten trees to grow from seed, even more 15 or 20 trees works in the sense of growing sprouts to a saleable length from the one tree that's like a mat of growth
2 steps forward one step back with the trees
It's not Albanese's fault.....it's the war in Ukraine.
Omfg labor lied…It can’t be albo who loves tennis and drinking beer and showpony ing around weddings with bikers and drug lords, Certainly he wouldn’t lie………lol…
This guy really reminds me of Les Patterson but he actually this way its not an act
Lies. Lies Lies Lies.