The Best Self Defense Training is Combat Sport Training | feat. Ryan Hoover
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"You're centered now." - Icy Mike, hard2center
My boxing teacher once told me he was glad I didn't have an ego despite all my improvements over the years. I said, "How can I have an ego when you beat me up all the time?" He was excited to find a student who also became his regular sparring partner and friend.
Finding students like that is awesome.
Good video! I've been training wing chun for 10 years and thought, that I would be a beast. Then I tried rolling with bjj white belts and sparring with muay thai beginners... After this experience, I immediately changed the way of training and even the martial arts. Not all of what I did before was useless, but this alone doesn't work. So it's not only the fighter, but also the martial art and sparring is essential
There's actually some really good stuff in Wing Chun. The question is whether the training methods in Wing Chun will prepare you to apply those techniques under pressure.
@@nickwilliams8302 What would you say is the top 1 or 2 most functional things in wing chun?
@@driver3899 I can answer you regarding IWKA wing chun ( it is an association that went to study really old kung fu, finding that originally the stance was 50 50, no bong sao ip man style) what is gives is the control between the punching range and the clinch, an other thing it gives really good stance and teaches to hit like a whip. They have a yt channel if you want to see some
Dirt Diver I have a WC background and I’ve used chain punches in sparring before. It’s very effective!! Similar to jabs in the way they make your opponent flinch so you can follow up with whatever. However! they don’t hit as hard as Wing Chun guys usually claim so in that way they’re overrated. But applied at the right time they’re incredible for setting up takedowns etc.
I'm doing almost the exact opposite of that, I do judo and learned to clinch, later I became curious for striking and started boxing and Muay Thai, and after all of that, which Im still doing I started studying Wing Chun, and so far its being very cool.
Learning how to fight without sparring is like learning how to swim on dry land
-Bruce Lee
Said the guy (Bruce) with no track record of fighting 😂
MrAchillesM no tract record but boxers and kickboxers of that time vouching for him?
@Winston Smith i know. I never agreed that they were the same. But you can't fight with sparring
@@wyatt4790 He was praised for how lean and athletic he was, not for his fighting skills. At the time of his blockbaster films early professional fighters (mostly thai-boxers) where light years ahead of him. We all at some poin in our lives wanted to become Bruce Lees but let's not get carried away.
Fighters of his time like Chartchai Chionoi or any professional thai-boxer of that time, would destroy him instantly. I can't understand all this mysticism about his legend.
By the way, boxers vouching for him? Lol.
@@MrAchillesM Says the 40 year old keyboard warriors living in his mom’s basement 🤣🤣
I had exactly the same BJJ experience as Mike, and you address a lot of the same issues I feel about in styles I've trained in. Lots of technique, no pressure testing, no drilling, little cardio, recipe for disaster
Mike tells like it is. He's humble and honest, I like this channel a lot.
Thank you man.
You remind me of my old karate teacher. After decades of training his style had come together into a dirty boxing with some leg kicks and wrestling. Like something a brawler would do. But he had that sweet science to it.
What was his style ? Or was it a mix of different stuff ?
@@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y Goju-ryu karate. He traveled and trained with different martial artists and athletes before settling down and opening a school so I'm sure that played a part as well.
@@eastsidemma4740 so, his Karate is similar to original Karate.
Completely agree with this, did WTF taekwondo for years but did very little real sparing. After too many years off not training I started ITF taekwondo where they have a weekly sparing session. I'm nowhere near as good as I thought I was!
I once trained with a ballet dancer who wanted to learn self defense. Her form was perfect but she was terrible because she didn't understand that fighting is fundamentally different from dancing.
Dancing is about holding and expanding force internally. When you dance with a partner you share energy with with them, pushes, lifts, spins etc.
Fighting is about directing force into and around someone else in a way that they are not prepared for. You don't share energy in a fight, you inflict it, steal it and avoid it.
The most important part of your strike or grab is not in your arms or legs but at the point where they make contact. The force that crashes into your opponent. Same goes for defense. The most important part of a slip is the space where they miss, the most important part of a wrestling transition is where and how your movement forces their body to move.
Regardless of fighting style, you can't learn any martial arts skills effectively enough to defend yourself absent sparing, because sparring is the only way to safely learn how to inflict force upon someone else and avoid someone else inflicting force upon you.
Without sparring, the best a student will ever become is a great martial arts dancer.
Ok I’m 50 this year. I’ve been back training after quite a few years off. I’m training with a few chaps that are younger. I hate the gym and cardio, I love the sparring.
I wanna learn how to fight..
Sensei Seth too bad you use side kicks bro
@Dirkjan I don't really like Aikido that much...
I tried a few lessons but it felt fake...
Am I right?
@@theghost449 Any martial art that you don't have to bring a mouth guard is probably fake
@@driver3899 lol
@@driver3899 that is true...
Fake martial arts train you for certain scenarios, but real martial arts teach you to be flexible...
Very true!!! I think the toughest thing to do, is often to find the balance between productive sparring and a gym war. As you guys said, not that you cant learn from both experiences but chasing sparring partners off or getting injured, is counter productive for the hobbyist who wants to learn realistic combatives.
I 100% agree with the need for live training and resistance. I also agree that a lot of "self defense" gyms don't do live training. They just do drills without resistance. Getting hit, thrown around and tapped definitely increases your resilience. Can a good "fighter" protect himself in a scenario of non-consentual violence? Obviously.
However, I think the thing many people don't acknowledge is the fact that the goals in self defense are different than the goals in fighting (whether it be TKD, MMA, MT or whatever). In all types of fighting, the goal is to win by KO, tap etc. The same goes true for street fights to some extent. There just isn't a referee to jump in. In SD, the goal is not to win. The goal is to survive and get home safely. Goals should be always be reflected in the training. Awareness, verbal deescalation, escape, preemptive strikes etc are not taught in MMA gyms. In SD you should never look for a takedown. You need to stay on your feet. Should you practice ground work? Damn right, but it should be a focus on getting back to your feet and not a triangle choke.
Cheers.
I do karate to maintain health and fitness. I certainly don't want to fight as a sport, but if and when the time comes, I want to survive! So I train hard on the bag, in sparring and on defensive techniques. I don't want to kill anybody. I just want to be able to get away.
That's unacceptable. You have to rip your attacker's arms off and kill them. Murder is legal under the law if the attacker does a threatening move towards you. Like if someone is walking toward you and you feel threatened and they breathe, you can legally kill them
@@officialdropfactory7048 um..
Lol
@@driver3899 It's a joke lmao. Icy Mike got it XD
So true!
martial arts without fighting is just a art
Claes Andersson *an art
Nothing wrong with that if people could be honest with themselves about it.
I Totally agree.
If guy in the red went bald and grew out his beard you'd be twins
“the guy in red” You mean the legend Ryan Hoover 😂
You mean half guy
Their ears are aligned differently. Hello.
@@HEAVENTWA yeah obviously
I haven't been in a fight in 20 years, but I find this channel really interesting. Thanks icy Mike!
That was one the the most honest and encouraging conversations on this topic I have ever heard.
Just wanted to say thank you for this video. I literally yelled hell yes watching this. My one instructor at the one dojo I went to did not believe in sparring. He believed/believes that repetitive practice of drills and techniques is enough to do you good. And I have yet to see someone not blank once they get hit come from that class. Learning the basics and repetition of techniques is good. But without sparring you will never know how and when to implement them. Also you don't learn to be an out of the box thinker for fighting when in difficult situations. Because without actual sparring you start to predictive fight expecting the "propper" counter to what you were doing that you learned in class. Not real world "off the cuff" style fighting like street fighting and pro fights are. You can train as many combos as you want but without sparring those combos will never amount to anything as you don't know when they are appropriate to use. You also don't learn the same amount of control, when to pull punches, when to pull back in the fight/ back off, you don't get used to facing towards the enemy rather than turning away when getting hit. Because you aren't used to being hit at that point. Sparring is essential being able to see the puzzle you are making almost complete. Without sparring it is a puzzle where the pieces are still scattered around the table but you can't see what it is without the image on the box.
Well put. Everybody freezes and spazzes until they've been exposed to stress over and over... EVERYBODY.
Great talk! Learning to deal with resistance and problem-solve in real-time (under a realistic rule-set) is CENTRAL to developing any kind of self-defense skills. The challenge is helping beginners understand the necessity of hard work through fitness and combat training, and at the same time, showing them how to do it realistically and SAFELY by staying relaxed and using the principle of progressive resistance.
Some people need to be humbled through real sparring to move forward (what a wake-up call it was for me 7 years ago...), but most students already lack confidence, so they need to experience some success by only dealing with a light degree of resistance in the situation they are trying to explore. As they get stronger and grow their skills, the speed and intensity should increase, but they should also still able to keep it safe through better physical and emotional control.
As for marketability, I kinda like "Fighting School"...
Keep up the good work, Icy Mike, always a pleasure to watch your videos!
- Patrick
These are definitely the conversation we need to have. Thank you guys!
Nice job guys. I always learn a lot when you two have these discussions. I guess I need to invest more time in my ground game after watching you gas out from wrestling!
The round was over!
My husband used to train and coach wrestling at a combative gym who was partnered with a local wing chun school in Las vegas....they would go hard on katas and during drills but when the mma guys and girls would strap up to spar they would pack up and leave. It always confused me on how they were confident with no sparring or even point fighting comps
Some clubs are doing it just for fitness, fun and meeting new friends which is fine. It's when those same clubs say " yes our training is also for self defense on the street ", that's when they need to be called out for their BS
Because it's "real" fighting, not sport. "Too dangerous". Somebody could get killed with their five finger death punch. /sarcasm.
Pretty common scenario. Lots of self deception and mental gymnastics going on.
This is why I enjoy your channel. No B.S. So many truths in what you guys are saying. My fighting skills early on in life came from wrestling and street fights as a teenager. I had my ass handed to me more than a few times but I learned from my mistakes. Later on in the Marines, well I hung around the wrong crowd and we got into a lot of fights. Many of the Marines I was around had martial arts backgrounds and I watched some of them get their ass handed to them. Like you said there's always somebody stronger faster and better skilled out there so put your ego in check. Your level of Fitness plays a huge role in your ability to endure a fight. I tell people a fight is 100% switched on effort and if you can't keep that up for a couple minutes you are going to get into deep trouble. I'm in my fifties now and like you play around wrestling a 16 year old. That was interesting my fitness wasn't quite where I thought it was. But many of us don't because we don't go full on 100% for two three four minutes.
I think this is why people seek out systems like Krav Maga where they can learn a couple of key moves and come Away with the perception that they can handle themselves in a fight. I understand it's difficult to sell the truth. This channels a great start thou.
Probably the best analogy I've heard regarding this topic is comparing individual techniques to tools. Someone can give you a set of top-of-the line tools, but if you just chuck them into a drawer someplace, you likely won't be able to get hold of them when you need them. A toolbox, however, provides a framework within which those tools are organised.
It's not that the techniques that "combatives" classes are teaching are bad tools. Frequently, they're quite good. The problem is that they're giving their students tools without a toolbox.
great video Mike, thanks, in the system of self defense that I train and teach sparring is a central point for the training, I think my training in combat sports has given me a great help to know how to receive a punch and keep going, I would love to share with you a story when two junkies muggged me, they broke my nose but i went for them anyway, the result was hilarious, but let me know if I can share with you the rest. Keep the good work.
100% absolutely right. Beautiful message.
I'm a caucasian traditional Chinese martial artist, I'm as fundamental and traditionalist as you can get. I'm a firm believer in forms and drills, and even I agree with your video 100%!
You have to go out and get your ass kicked badly before you can start using your material effectively. It can be anything from Aikido to MMA to College Wrestling to Krav Maga and so on. It doesn't matter. You have to experience getting beat up and abused(you know what I mean by beat up and abused) before you can make your stuff work.
With that being said, what a lot of people advocating sparring don't understand is that you have to take baby steps teaching beginners to material before you let them get their ass beat. You can't just throw them out to the wolves and say "get good".
You take time teaching them the basic material and then you get them sparring.
Nice video! I liked how that young lion in orange moved too 🥊👍🏻
Holy shit!!! Your martial arts journey is the exact same as mine xD - I was not only a black belt and lifelong martial artist, but also in the military and ran a remedial fitness program in my squadron so was in pretty solid shape... Same thing, 6 month white belt absolutely mopped the floor with me and I just sat at the the newly opened UFC gym near my house reevaluating everything I thought I knew about martial arts and fighting. Whereas before, just seeing it and experiencing a little bit of grappling here and there throughout my years, this full class, the amount of control the white belt had compared to my complete lack of control (He was also younger and smaller than me), and the difference in time sunk into our respective skills (or lack thereof) completely blew through any type cognitive dissonance wall I could have tried to construct and I knew immediately I had been training bullshit my entire life.
Great video, real talk.
Judging by the thumbnail, you're committing to the Doppelganger Meme😂😂
Gotta give the people what they want.
Love the clips of the good parts of the interview!
Makes it clear a point
Yeah this was an hour and a half long interview!
The first thing I learned real fast as a combat streetfighter is that my environment not my opponent was the greater threat. I also learned that my environment could also be my greatest ally. That's not a canvas or a mat that you are slammed on. That's shards of glass sharp rocks. And they hurt. A slight bang of the brain on sidewalk hurts. A lot. Trying to punch while twisted like a pretzel and stuck between sofa and wall is exhausting. Or tossed over a banister. You can't train for that. You learn. The hard way. Rather than you, deliberately and skillfully use chairs and sofas and cluttered sidewalks as defensive or offensive aids. My environment has saved me from many a beat down.
Great video and great perspectives from both of you.
Martial Arts without sparring IMHO is exercise/entertainment.
I mean it's a serious topic!
For example watching the video I'm constantly spar my alter ego in order to control his "posture" and stop him from laughing about the hilarious twin face thing you and ryan have going on! 😁
Mirror match!
Thanks for the truth.
Bruce said everything must be tested 👍
yeah sparring is definitely necessary. you wont know what works and doesnt unless you apply it in a controlled environment.
sparring is the safest fighting environment to be in. you want to learn whats it like to hit others and also to be hit yourself, do it in sparring. expose yourself too much in a competition, you could lose. do the same in the streets, you could potentially die. so sparring is important.
besides, without sparring youll have false confidence. thinking that your techniques will work when it actually wont just because you never tested it, and be tested yourself...
I agree about false confidence. I also think many instructors feed a line of b/s about how well protected their students are trained with their system. . But that is across the board in Martial Arts. That has been going on forever in Martial arts.
If you keep going after your nose is broken you definitely get another gold star on your certified badass card
It's crazy that we have to explain common sense things to people. but it seems the average person just has the wrong idea of things.
You're totally right and that's what I always say, you don't learn "self defense", you learn how to fight.
you are absolutely right... problem is.... the main reason guys go to tma's is to pose as a bad ass in pajamas without ever really having to spar....
Safe.
One question --
I agree that combat sports sparring is better for self-defense than just feeding each other self defense scenarios for canned exchanges. But wouldn't you say there is a difference between sparring for self-defense and sparring for combat sports? And I don't mean things like groin strikes and eye gouges and all that. I mean the pacing and goals of the sparring.
When I spar for self-defense -- I am not trying to measure my output for multiple timed rounds. I'm not looking to feel out an opponent or tally points with a jab or takedowns. I am generally going as fast as I can to a finishing move that will allow me to escape..."finishing move" meaning multiple head strikes, one big head strike, a sweep, etc. When one of us reaches a finishing move, we break -- talk over the dynamics of the exchange while we catch our breath (1-2 mins) and then restart the next engagement from a relatively fresh beginning. This would be bad sparring for MMA, but I think it makes sense given the difference in training for sport goals vs fight goals and the fact that self-defense happens at a faster pace than sport fighting.
To really be able to defend yourself confidently you must have experience at fighting. People are looking at a couple cool moves and whoa la, I,ve got it down. No when the real deal is going down you won't know what to do. A solid sparring background will eliminate the nerves and you will know how to relax in the moment. I was in karate competition for years and thought I was a fighter until I went into boxing, that is where I really got an education. You can have a lot of good technic and speed but it is what is in your head and that comes from fight experience.
Learn to: guard your jaw and temples, shoulder roll punches, sprawl, throw a straight, throw a hook, low leg kick, ground guard, bridge out of mount, sweep from guard to mount, armbar, arm drag to rear naked choke, throw knees and elbows from clinch, sweep and hook trip from the clinch. Then spar 1-2 hours using these 3-4 times a week for a year. You'll be about 70-80% proficient by then and able to beat 9/10 people in an unarmed fight, presuming you're not retarded.
And then carry a knife and a pistol and relegate all this unarmed stuff to sparring once or twice a week for maintenance.
Hi I have started boxing but everything is expensive and gyms are closed but I am trying to do a home gym
If you are still a novice and dont have a ton of stuff to practice use this time to get in shape.
Double Mike strikes again ! 😂😂, Great video !!💪💪💪
Mary Lunar I’m pretty sure someone cloned Mike.
Let's make it triple mike!
Icy Mike 🤣🤣
@@IcyMikeP 😂😂😂
This is refreshing to hear because even as a traditional martial artist I always favored the sparring over the other curriculum, because it felt more natural. I hated the one step sparring self defense! My Karate instructor use to rent out his space to some kickboxers and I would always stay over and watch until they invited me to train with them!
And yes wrestlers are hard to deal with. I'm a 43 year old BJJ purple belt and I have a hard time with the wrestlers!😂 😔
I always laughed when tma and mma share space... like how can adult tma practitioners honestly watch the other class and think what they are doing measures?
This is why I dropped more or less everything else but kickboxing. Sparring/figting teaches you to fight, obviously.
Haha. I love how you wanted him centered... And now we only see half his face
Mike can we get some of your bjj updates. You said you were going to go more.
I like to punch and kick but I don’t like to receive a punch or kick. I’m looking into getting some armor.
Just hire someone to let you beat them up... I'll be available post-quarantine. I'm a little pricey so maybe try a nephew or something?
I try to tell this to my karate friend and it's like she doesn't even hear me. Also, I found out the hard way that technique isn't enough. You can't see the shots coming if you don't have the experience of it in at least semi real time aka sparring. A guy in a park threw extremely telegraphed shit at me and it landed even though I saw the telegraph. I didn't freak out, grabbed his hair and wrestled him to the ground, but he could have knocked the fuck outta me if he had any power.
Experience is huge.
@@IcyMikeP Went to my friends dojo to try it out and as soon as he said 'we don't spar here', I was basically already out the door, though I stayed for the rest of the class to be polite. You should have seen their 'kumate' sessions. Grown men flailing around like children high on candy
Maybe a follow up vid on sparring etiquette? I think a lot of folks could share a sparring “gone wrong” story.
That’s the best thumbnail I’ve ever seen
I just see his face
@@Groteskfull haha like a rocket butt
Haha thanks
@@Groteskfull that one was funny
Light contact, low to moderate intensity. Must have it.
you have to practice both light and hard contact. hard contact is what will prepare you for real fighting, light contact is good for developing coordination, timing, technique, etc.
Getting your ass kicked is the best way to learn self defence, in my honest opinion, I might be wrong, but I have learned way more from any lost fight than from all my won fights added up. Self defence is not always about technique, you might be amazing at applying certain stuff, but if your opponent is bigger and stronger, you will learn not to be cocky. Thinking you are learning self defence while not ever being punched in the face is like thinking you can drive without ever stepping in a car.
This was a great video. You have 3 section of geographic of people.
Combat Athletes , functional selfdefense, and phantasy selfdefense. The problem is the phantasy selfdefense instructors and the phantasy selfdefense people are delusional. The phantasy instructors are giving the false reality that people can be a bad A.. in a 2 day course. The phantasy selfdefense people truly dont want real selfdefense because it will require them to put a lot of rounds of sparring to develop skill to perform the techniques with resistance. They want techniques only and no sparring testing. This keeps functional selfdefense instructors low on students and income because those phantasy selfdefense instructors are making money off of lies. If you want to learn how to fight you must practice fighting with someone fighting back . No short cuts no special Wingchun punch it's about loosing first to learn how to win.
I have wrestled for a few years, done bjj for a little over a year and have been doing Muay Thai for a few months and I was wondering what are some other things I would learn or would I just stick to the 3.
Learn some boxing for Head Movement, and footwork and complementing your Muay Thai punching
And if you could find a good karate dojo that focuses in important things, is good for distance management and timing, accuracy
Learn Silat Harimau Berantai or Kali for bladed weapons. 80% of fatal death is from knives
@@matkasim that is not true.
I'm of the opinion that a martial art with a healthy tournament environment also helps ego check people and helps create pressure in the moment of the fight. Curious what your thoughts are.
First time I sparred my instructor’s son, I learned that being fast doesn’t mean shit if the other guy has better timing. I think we went for two three-minute rounds, and I didn’t land a single shot. I’d try to cut angles and move in, and he’d just catch me with a jab or a well-placed teep. I felt totally helpless. I wouldn’t have necessarily learned that outside of sparring. Yeah, I’d heard that timing > speed repeatedly. But that was just theory until it wasn’t.
Anyway, homeboy went on to fight in bellator, so I guess losing wasn’t so bad.
Well, think about. If you had done better, that could have been you.
You could have been your instructor's son.
I heard Mike pause at one point, and every fiber of my being knew it was because of him being almost totally distracted by talking to the visage of half a person cut vertically in half the discomfort that probably invoked lmfao!!!
Years ago when I was a field technician I used to meet up with a bunch of my work mates in the park to train. There's a drill in karate called one step sparing, so I took that and made a variation where you wear bag gloves and have 30 seconds to reverse punch your partner between the wast and neck while the partner must block only. If the punch gets through the partner must clap once and then it's their turn. So the aim of the drill for the defender is to sharpen your blocking techniques, footwork and reflexes, while the attacker worked on speed and stance. It was basic fun, no one got hurt, we didn't even get changed, half hour and we were back in our cars on the job
We use similar drills in our beginner sparring program
Can sparing with low enough contact to avoid brain damage still be effective? I have no problem with bruises on my body. I don't want brain damage.
Yes and no. It will help certain things like working on timing or moving, you can work on strike set ups or strategy. But if you never take a hard strike time to time once you do it could effect you worse. You could knockout easier or freeze and get scared. Sparring should be 50-60% power with a good amount of speed on the shots. Those can still hurt if hit right. Pro fighter sparring id bump up to maybe 75% once in awhile but not to much so you dont get injured. Ive trained in several things boxing/kickboxing/judo/ju jitsu, thats just my opinion.
The mighty dwarves conversating again. I knew this would be decent as soon as I saw the thumbnail.
Great video
I've done MA on for twenty years. 3 years to black belt km n they couldn't understand why I kept arguing that we needed to spar...I'm including the head instructors who were top lineage to imi and boaz... FFS...
Great system but needed turned up a notch so people can take a punch in the face.
i didnt watch the video right know, cause i have other stuff todo, i just wanna say, i love the thumbnail
Great video.
Thanks
You guys sharing face kina looks like McGregor. Kinda.
mike cracking open the good ol monster
You know how I do
As I am watching this ad pops up and says check out this new self defense system 🤦🏻♂️ I train jiu jitsu weekly as part of a lifestyle and a hobby do I trust it yes and no, if I don’t train and spar with striking and rolling I agree it isn’t going to do any good real world should I find myself in a bad situation.
Truth!
Oh man I mean this in the nicest way, but in a few years your son is gonna be whooping you in sparring. I'd be proud, hope he sticks to it.
Vocês 2 parecem Antônio Boco aqui do Brasil, ele é TH-camr também.
how about a video explaining why Anthony Smith was not able to decommission the home invader smaller than him and with no training.
I agree
Clearly a beard is necessary to fighting.
I wish i could ind a Krav maga studio or BJJ gym in NE-PA
It's gonna be a minute before people are gonna want to be hugged up training with each other....sadly. No more sparring for me for a while. Fighting my imaginary friend now, Mike😁
Common sense but sadly lacking in many schools. But the term self defence is BS anyway. When more than half the world is hiding away from a virus, I find it fascinating that people still think of self defence as defence from a hostile human. Unless its your job to face aggressive people, eg soldier, doorman, police officer etc, for most of us, actual human aggressor is pretty low on the list of things that are a threat to our wellbeing. Self defence is eating right, resting right, keeping an eye on our weight, and regular exercise.
bro that true as hec
you must live in a nice gated community
@@mk00012 there is a common lie spread around within the martial arts community. That is that there is such thing as 'the average thug on the street' and that this imaginary average thug is pretty dumb. I don't live in a 'gated community' and have been around long enough to know that paying attention to what's going on around you and being prepared to swallow your pride are often the best way to avoid getting into bother. What else I've realised over the years is that the minority of people that do want to cause trouble and fight are not stupid. Sure they sometimes might be academically a bit behind, but they are clever in other ways. They usually know how to win a fight, be it by using the element surprise, or working in a group, or using distractions or a weapon. But here's a very important point. They may also train for all you know. While you train 'self defence', they may also train in martial arts of some kind. They may also just fight amongst their group to practice. The point is, learning to fight as a means of 'self defence' is a pretty dumb approach to self defence, as you'll never be as tough as someone with similar physical abilities but who has no morals and has practiced real violence a lot. That's not to say that combat sport or martial art is a waste of time. Of course it will help IF you let yourself get into a situation where an attacker is in front of you and hasn't already sucker punched you from behind, but the goal of self defence should be to not get into that situation in the first place.
Well put, and you summed up one of the core concepts of this channel.
@@IcyMikeP that's why I'm subscribed to the channel. I like objective, plausible analysis. I come from a background in 'traditional' martial arts but kind of woke up to the relentless BS. I still have a passion for martial arts, including the so called traditional stuff, but I like that it is sanity checked too. This channel, along with others, and a healthy dollop of common sense, helps to provide that sanity check.
So in order to fight someone, you have to learn how fight. Makes sense I guess.
What a revelation!
You mean to tell me that the katas shown by (often) overweight dudes in PJs will not make me an uber mega streetfighter? Imagine my shock.
The only way to become an uber mega streetfighter is with a good quality head band
Definitely need a good headband.
Or eye gouging a bob bag
It's hard though to get people to your fightclass who actually need selfdefense. Like women and people who are being bullied. With my first Krav class I just teach theory about situational awareness and then the next classes are just thaiboxing. And you need to spar.
so is your best advice to find a good mma gym or jiu jitsu gym?
MMA more realistic
Is this a before/after side by side video
I told you guys, now’s he just taunting us. Illuminati confirmed.
Remember just because you're paranoid doesnt mean that everyone is not out to get you.
Icy Mike Wiser words have never been said. Thank you sensei mike. 🙏
Ryan Hoover just solved a "name" problem I had....
Most martial artist are never gonna get into a fight. Most people who get into fights have been fighting since children.
Exactly! Once u start learning martial arts u will feel the need not to prove yourself.
I can definitely beat everyone up after all the UFC I've watched. I own 2 Tap Out shirts, so yeah.
This is probably the equivalent of 2 striped blackbelt in aikido tbh
You both would have the same amount of sparring practice and at least the things you would have learned from watching ufc are actually proven to work
self defense without sparring is bullshit
I agree 100%. There is no self defence with out live sparring. I do it in my Krav Maga club here in Greece and when new people are coming to watch they are like '' what? thats going to hurt'' Ok , what do you think man?????Is not a dance club. With out sparring, endurance, strength there is nothing. I do hate the self defence industry because they really fuck peoples minds that is not necessary to be hard.
IT IS.
You must have trained with a bad Krav Maga school then! We do a lot of sparring in my class! By the way, I train with Krav Maga Global.
Wow it does sound familiar :)
Are they brothers?
Yep - that’s half of Ryan’s face
Too bad I have no friend to spar with and there no gym at my place.
Bruce Lee said,I boxer or a wrestler.could kick a martial artist ass in training in one year.