Before you make a comment, I recommend watching the whole video. I've seen a few that just echo what I said in it or they ask something that I've already answered in the video. It's not hard to tell who's skimming through it or stopped watching. Edit: From this point on, I will not be replying to new comments that are asking things that have already been answered in the video. It's tiring. Watch the whole thing. High chance you'll find the answer in it.
I lowkey forgot that I need to get a Bluetooth dongle until I watched this video, so THANK YOU! You saved me. I would've been so sad to have my HaritoraX without being able to use it
was thinking about slimevr, but Haritora is looking really good recently, the showcase seemed like a better tracking but more choppy slimevr. its come so far!
LMAO, I don't know how you made the review so entertaining The talking to yourself part was so funny I also see you struggle with math too huh I will definitely be recommending Haritora to people who are not into laser tracking Also thanks for your words hope I see more reviews of you
Such a great review, liked and subscribed bro. Currently I'm waiting on my shipment and I hope it arrives soon. Your video has made me want it even more now so thank you for that.
YOO, I just ordered a quest 2 yesterday and I was panicking on how much more I had to spend in order to have my full body tracking dream, but knowing something like this actually exist with half the cost feels much better! This is my first time in vr so my expectation for high end accuracy are rather low since I’m on a budget, so the cons shouldn’t be too harsh for me honestly lol.
@@sadboikazoo3411 Since I just happened to see this, I'll say, with VRChat's implementation of OSC Tracking (basically standalone tracking), Shiftall (creators of HaritoraX) has shown in-development footage of using it natively on the Quest, much like recently done with SlimeVR and even more recently, Sony's "Mocopi"
thank u so much ive been trying to get FBT for so long but i dont have 800 dollars to drop on it so this is a MUCH cheaper alternative that looks great
Omg I can't wait to get mine! I bought the legs, hip extension, and arm trackers!! I have vive trackers but it cost me 5 trackers, 1 base station, and the straps was over $1000 plus it sucks trying to use with oculus. I can't wait to have actual full full body tracking and be able to wear a blanket during full body
This is a great review!! I'm definitely sold on this product now :) Also, quick aside question, how did you get that little mirror of your avatar's face next to the mute button at 3:41? Is it a mod? I've been looking for something like that for awhile now!
Hey there, thanks for watching! And to answer your question, it's actually a feature on that avatar specifically. I think the creator is named _Thunder_ and they have an avatar world with similar avis. Maybe see if you can find them and ask what they use
Wait.. One time when i was in a VRC world i saw someone with that EXACT avi, and they had FBT! Whats more, i asked them about FBT, and they said they had haritora x... Either it was just a major coincidence or.. I met you there. (I just felt like i had to type this XD)
One of the few good videos I've seen for these. Are you planning on getting the hip trackers? Also when it comes to the tracking settings in the configurator that allow you to change the position offsets, have you used those? I've gotten mine recently and I'm trying to work some kinks out. Notably my arms floating above my legs when I'm sitting and I place them on my thighs.
If you know how to solder you can make your own SlimeVR trackers. All the documentation is online and discord. It's actually an easy and beginner friendly project. I did it.
You can't let the product be delivered to Europe which is pretty stupid. Calling it "FBT for the masses" like some TH-camrs do is a joke in my opinion if it is only available for the United States and Hawaii.
Yep. I do point out that it's only available in US and Japan. Don't think I said in this review that it's for the masses. I do find it odd that it's only available in the US and not other major countries like the UK and Canada
Yay I got the right bluetooth adapter (Asus BT400 for my keyboard) now I know what I want for Christmas. BTW how well does it work for NEOS since I use that way more often.
Yo, just got my x1.1 about a week ago. Love it to bits, but I'd like to know after nearly a year how yours has held up. The main issue I've been having is that I haven't been able to lie down on my back without my legs bending inwards/spazzing out. I noticed you were laying down around 5:25 but that was about it. Wondering if you had any ideas. 6 foot dude tryna use a 5'1 avatar for the record
did everything in the videos and when i get into vr chat game on steam and click calibrate fbt.. it wont work what do i do it shows the cats on steam vr i installed the firmware everything and driver?
I got HaritoraX Wireless and its a good-ish solution although idk why when using OVR Advanced Setting Motion my feet aren't able to phase through the floor like other FBT users so if i try to drag myself down I end up a contorted mess and it seems to be the same with other HaritoraX Wireless users and the constant recalibration might put some ppl off depending on what you're planning to do.
Hiya! I had the same issue but there is an option on the configurator that fixes that issue. Go to other settings in the configurator, tracking and at the bottom there is option to disable "Sole sticks to floor". Click that and then you can play space like normal.
1:45 busted me up cos I just got some trackers from Amazon that were supposed to work with slime. After fumbling around with code and still not managing to get em going, they’re going back 😭🤣
comfirming this, to use the bluetooth tracking, you need to have a computer, yes? my problem is that im too broke to buy a gaming computer to run vrchat PLUS connect my oculus quest 2. i have a small gaming laptop, it runs vrchat well but when i connect my oculus, its TERRIBLE. is there anything i can do to fix lagging with that or is my computer just not good enough.
Nah, I recommend checking your bluetooth settings, or message shiftall for customer support. I think they might have something regarding that in their manual too
I have a very high end PC, with a Ryzen 7 5800X and an RX 6800 with 32GB of RAM. For gaming laptops, I don't see a reason on why they wouldn't work, check and see if your laptop is VR compatible, like using Oculus Link or Air Link to test, if it works, Haritora I assume would have no problem working with it, as long as you have a bluetooth connection.
@@JordonAM first off thanks for replying, and second off I don’t have a laptop so that’s the main reason I’m asking, because I don’t wanna spend a money on one and find out it isn’t working, because i know if I get a laptop I will use it only for VR and TH-cam
Do you notice your legs picking up when you sway side to side? Also when you bend over do your feet come off the floor? It kind of looks like I’m walking on clouds, does that make sense
OK question. Did you have trouble attaching the main unit to the main unit fixing pad strap? I had to cut the extra stitching out and make the strap longer with some duct tape. It was the very first step and I'm hoping that the rest of this process is smooth.
@@JordonAM Maybe mine was just a little weird because there was no way the sensor was getting onto that strap. But now I have it reinforced with staples and duct tape.
I don't know where you heard this from, but Haritora would need about the same requirements as SlimeVR. i.e. Not a supercomputer. Even a gaming computer works. It's not a heavy app/program. Dunno who told you that but I defo didn't.
I ordered mine in April and got it in Late May. They reopened in Mid April and I believe they're gonna be shipping those soon. They're ordering more chips so they will be updating on when they'll be restocking
@@JordonAM could you possibly make a video about how to try and set it up, and does the full body need a pc hooked to it along with the quest 2 for this to even work?
I got them from the official shiftall page. They haven't restocked yet but like I said in the video I recommend following their twitter for new restocks
here is the thing with all non base station trackers. they are all very good and all but lack immense ammount of precision. you can see how much the feet drift arround despit the feet of the real person being planted. i will always prefer base station tracking as a matter of principle alone
Good for you I guess. And you're making a claim that I've already stated in the video with the tracking precision. Not sure why you're putting it down here like I left it out.
Like I said in video. Follow their Twitter. They said they discontinued the original model to start shipping a minor update model that will be easier to mass produce.
So is slime VR not a good way to go currently? I'm just starting to get into VR and think FBT looks like something I really want to get into. I saw slimevr, and thought it looked like a cool concept. Would this be a better choice to slime VR? Or if I have the money, are the HRC trackers still the best way to go?
Slimevr is a pain to set up and you need 2.5ghz internet since it runs by you're internet but if you don't mind spending some time setting it up then buy slimevr
@@ivoxzenzy1593 yeah I've been talking to others and doing some research, and i think I'm gonna go with the HTC trackers. They seem to be some of the better ones and much more user friendly
@@JordonAM It would be more accurate to say "exist in retail form". SlimeVR exists, you just have to make them yourself, atm. Whole thing's open source. Still, it's nice to see the US peeps are actually getting HaritoraX, since it got pushed back as well because of shipping issues.
Before you make a comment, I recommend watching the whole video. I've seen a few that just echo what I said in it or they ask something that I've already answered in the video. It's not hard to tell who's skimming through it or stopped watching.
Edit: From this point on, I will not be replying to new comments that are asking things that have already been answered in the video. It's tiring. Watch the whole thing. High chance you'll find the answer in it.
Can you give us a link to the ‘site?
when i get in vrchat and hit calibrate fbt it dosent work do u know how to fix this
@@OuroborosTheProtobean dude, its in the description
I lowkey forgot that I need to get a Bluetooth dongle until I watched this video, so THANK YOU! You saved me. I would've been so sad to have my HaritoraX without being able to use it
HaritoraX
Which one did you get? And did it work?
What headset do you use and was it worth it?
What the Bluetooth dongle for?
Some people say putting the Bluetooth. Dangle in the USB 3.0 sometimes it's slow tracking but putting it in the USB 2.0 in improves tracking
"sold out" till it's available, welp, THE WAIT IS ON
I been waiting a while....
was thinking about slimevr, but Haritora is looking really good recently, the showcase seemed like a better tracking but more choppy slimevr. its come so far!
This is a really funny and entertaining review! Love it man😂
LMAO, I don't know how you made the review so entertaining
The talking to yourself part was so funny
I also see you struggle with math too huh
I will definitely be recommending Haritora to people who are not into laser tracking
Also thanks for your words
hope I see more reviews of you
Thank you habibi, I will stop being lazy 🙏🏾
Such a great review, liked and subscribed bro. Currently I'm waiting on my shipment and I hope it arrives soon. Your video has made me want it even more now so thank you for that.
how long did it take you? when do they restock?
YOO, I just ordered a quest 2 yesterday and I was panicking on how much more I had to spend in order to have my full body tracking dream, but knowing something like this actually exist with half the cost feels much better! This is my first time in vr so my expectation for high end accuracy are rather low since I’m on a budget, so the cons shouldn’t be too harsh for me honestly lol.
you have a gaming pc right? afaik the haritora only works on steamvr. i could be wrong though
@@sadboikazoo3411 Since I just happened to see this, I'll say, with VRChat's implementation of OSC Tracking (basically standalone tracking), Shiftall (creators of HaritoraX) has shown in-development footage of using it natively on the Quest, much like recently done with SlimeVR and even more recently, Sony's "Mocopi"
Been watching your review since last month and finally got one yesterday. Can’t wait!
thank u so much ive been trying to get FBT for so long but i dont have 800 dollars to drop on it so this is a MUCH cheaper alternative that looks great
I'm getting 2019 JordonAM vibes off this video. I'm rocking with it. Very good review. Keep it up
Omg I can't wait to get mine! I bought the legs, hip extension, and arm trackers!! I have vive trackers but it cost me 5 trackers, 1 base station, and the straps was over $1000 plus it sucks trying to use with oculus. I can't wait to have actual full full body tracking and be able to wear a blanket during full body
Yeah ight I gotta sub, this commentary to goated also TY needed a real review before I full sent the purchase!
Wow what a great product, hopefully it’s not sold out!
Editing jordan to B-Roll Jordan back and forth made me cackle.
This is a great review!! I'm definitely sold on this product now :)
Also, quick aside question, how did you get that little mirror of your avatar's face next to the mute button at 3:41? Is it a mod? I've been looking for something like that for awhile now!
Hey there, thanks for watching! And to answer your question, it's actually a feature on that avatar specifically. I think the creator is named _Thunder_ and they have an avatar world with similar avis. Maybe see if you can find them and ask what they use
Wait.. One time when i was in a VRC world i saw someone with that EXACT avi, and they had FBT! Whats more, i asked them about FBT, and they said they had haritora x... Either it was just a major coincidence or.. I met you there. (I just felt like i had to type this XD)
One of the few good videos I've seen for these. Are you planning on getting the hip trackers? Also when it comes to the tracking settings in the configurator that allow you to change the position offsets, have you used those?
I've gotten mine recently and I'm trying to work some kinks out. Notably my arms floating above my legs when I'm sitting and I place them on my thighs.
You should do a update video about this
If you know how to solder you can make your own SlimeVR trackers. All the documentation is online and discord. It's actually an easy and beginner friendly project. I did it.
Bro said Soldering and Easy and beginner friendly in the same comment. I'm crying
@@JordonAM I wasn't saying soldering was easy.. I was saying the overall project is fairly beginner friendly.
@@JordonAM I managed to make my own slime trackers and have next to no soldering experience.
Man these look dope, now only if they got a restock and would stop being out of stock!!
They are restocked right now!
You can't let the product be delivered to Europe which is pretty stupid. Calling it "FBT for the masses" like some TH-camrs do is a joke in my opinion if it is only available for the United States and Hawaii.
Yep. I do point out that it's only available in US and Japan. Don't think I said in this review that it's for the masses. I do find it odd that it's only available in the US and not other major countries like the UK and Canada
slimevr and stonx... don't exist 🤣
Also they are back in stock as of today at least!
Great Video :) saw it on Steam lol. sounds like a possibly good investment, but not right now.
Hey might be a weird question but could you tell me the world where I could get the avatar you use at 3:45
i ordered mine from ebay they literally forgot like 4 straps 😐 but luckily i got just the straps from another seller and i got a refund so
Yay I got the right bluetooth adapter (Asus BT400 for my keyboard) now I know what I want for Christmas. BTW how well does it work for NEOS since I use that way more often.
Yo, just got my x1.1 about a week ago. Love it to bits, but I'd like to know after nearly a year how yours has held up.
The main issue I've been having is that I haven't been able to lie down on my back without my legs bending inwards/spazzing out.
I noticed you were laying down around 5:25 but that was about it. Wondering if you had any ideas. 6 foot dude tryna use a 5'1 avatar for the record
did everything in the videos and when i get into vr chat game on steam and click calibrate fbt.. it wont work what do i do it shows the cats on steam vr i installed the firmware everything and driver?
Do you need to be on steam VR I'm on vrchat
I got HaritoraX Wireless and its a good-ish solution although idk why when using OVR Advanced Setting Motion my feet aren't able to phase through the floor like other FBT users so if i try to drag myself down I end up a contorted mess and it seems to be the same with other HaritoraX Wireless users and the constant recalibration might put some ppl off depending on what you're planning to do.
Hiya! I had the same issue but there is an option on the configurator that fixes that issue. Go to other settings in the configurator, tracking and at the bottom there is option to disable "Sole sticks to floor". Click that and then you can play space like normal.
do we need a pc ? Cuz my graphique card is very trash and i lag when i use it for roblox and some things like that so yea ?
how did you get yours to look smooth and to calibrate correctly
Just bought mines thanks for the review and did it take a long time to arrive ?
good video, did you fix the choppy-ness?
1:45 busted me up cos I just got some trackers from Amazon that were supposed to work with slime. After fumbling around with code and still not managing to get em going, they’re going back 😭🤣
Yeah I heard about those scam trackers going around today actually. Hopefully you get your money back!
Do you think its good for dancing? I wanna be able to dance and I just want an opinion.
Any idea if HaritoraX can be successfully combined with HTC trackers? For example, track legs and torso with HX, then either elbows or feet with HTC.
I just don’t know whether to get slime VRs or Haritora X they’re both pretty good
comfirming this, to use the bluetooth tracking, you need to have a computer, yes? my problem is that im too broke to buy a gaming computer to run vrchat PLUS connect my oculus quest 2. i have a small gaming laptop, it runs vrchat well but when i connect my oculus, its TERRIBLE. is there anything i can do to fix lagging with that or is my computer just not good enough.
They are still out of stock.... and they can't be shipped to me :(
I got them but I can’t get them off yellow they were green before
Unrelated question, what's the program that you use to view your desktop and operate it from VR?
For my Quest I have Virtual Desktop. You're also able to control your desktop using SteamVR or Oculus Software
Question do you need the dongle? I’m using a gaming laptop to connect my haritorax and there a option in setting for Bluetooth
If you already have Bluetooth inside your PC, you do not need the dongle
@@ohlookitsnoddingham thank you!
these are actually interesting
how much does the HaritoraX cost with ERP avatar included
So if i get this right if i buy this i dont have to worry about buying trackers since they come with it?
How long did it take for them to get in the mail / doorstep? I want to order them but idk if it’ll take weeks for it to get in.
Does it ship to UK/EU
Quick question, do u have to use Virtual Desktop? or can u use a link cable too?
It connects via Bluetooth and straight to steam vr so it doesn't matter
do i need the dongle for the bluetooth setting to work
Is this coming to the uk??
Everytime I sit, lay, or cross my legs, the Bluetooth would disconnect. Does this happen to you?
Nah, I recommend checking your bluetooth settings, or message shiftall for customer support. I think they might have something regarding that in their manual too
@@JordonAM are you using a Bluetooth dongle or did your motherboard have Bluetooth already?
im still waiting for slime vr to send my shit in.... oh wait fucking NOVEMBER!!! ;-;
What kinda PC set up do you have ??? Like can I run these on a laptop ?
I have a very high end PC, with a Ryzen 7 5800X and an RX 6800 with 32GB of RAM. For gaming laptops, I don't see a reason on why they wouldn't work, check and see if your laptop is VR compatible, like using Oculus Link or Air Link to test, if it works, Haritora I assume would have no problem working with it, as long as you have a bluetooth connection.
@@JordonAM first off thanks for replying, and second off I don’t have a laptop so that’s the main reason I’m asking, because I don’t wanna spend a money on one and find out it isn’t working, because i know if I get a laptop I will use it only for VR and TH-cam
When I go buy it witch one do I buy cause there is 3 select do I pick the middle one?
Witch to buy tutorial please
Do you notice your legs picking up when you sway side to side? Also when you bend over do your feet come off the floor? It kind of looks like I’m walking on clouds, does that make sense
I have the haritoraX and I’m trying to figure out how to adjust them better
OK question. Did you have trouble attaching the main unit to the main unit fixing pad strap? I had to cut the extra stitching out and make the strap longer with some duct tape. It was the very first step and I'm hoping that the rest of this process is smooth.
For me? Personally no. It took me a good minute to get it on there, but after that I didn't have much trouble with the other sensors
@@JordonAM Maybe mine was just a little weird because there was no way the sensor was getting onto that strap. But now I have it reinforced with staples and duct tape.
Just a question. I've got a quest 2 and would I need a PC for this to work? Or can I just connect it and that's it?
You would need a PC yes
Can I use a vr ready laptop or do I need a pc for this 👁️👁️ please help 🙏
You can use a laptop that's VR ready, yes
does this work for pcvr with the oculus app?
Does ovr smooth tracking work with this???
@jordonAM can you help me set up my Haritora's ? ill tiip u fatt
How did you get the image with the avatars facial expression over the mute button in vrchat?
It comes with the avatar
Do I need to use steam vr? Or can I just use stand alone. And if I do need to use steam vr, can I use virtual desktop + air link?
Yes you need SteamVR as it shows in the video. And I also used Virtual Desktop in this video. It'll also work via Oculus Link/Air Link
Where can I get it
After some time, you still reccomend it? I've been on the fence a lot but it looks pretty solid!
I absolutely do still recommend it
@@JordonAM awesome, thanks for replying!
When can it ship to canada?
I was thinking about this but it needs a good pc, so for the time being imma just keep my eyes on slimevr until something happens.
I don't know where you heard this from, but Haritora would need about the same requirements as SlimeVR. i.e. Not a supercomputer. Even a gaming computer works. It's not a heavy app/program. Dunno who told you that but I defo didn't.
@@JordonAM oh. It's just that I thought it would not work on standalone and can only work on steam vr
@@unhinged793 Yeah nah, the Haritora dev is already working on Standalone via OSC tracking
How long did it take you to get these? how long ago when they were in stock?
I ordered mine in April and got it in Late May. They reopened in Mid April and I believe they're gonna be shipping those soon. They're ordering more chips so they will be updating on when they'll be restocking
@@JordonAM could you possibly make a video about how to try and set it up, and does the full body need a pc hooked to it along with the quest 2 for this to even work?
Is the new version better?
Bro I’m just tryina find some good trackers I could use on quest without a pc
You're not gonna find that G. At least not for a while.
sold out, go figure... bout to just make some slimeVR trackers if the components arent sold out too lol
I would only use full body tracking for kicking people in the face in boneworks and blade and sorcery
Easy, EASY?! THIS SHIT IS THE HARDEST SETUP IVE EVER DONE!!! ITS ALL SET UP AND IT WONT EVEN WORK ON VR CHAT!!!
Does the bluetooth connect to the pc or the vr headset?
It connects to the PC
hopefully this isnt sold out i NEED IT 😭
Do u need steam car to do it
So do you need steam vr to run this fbt?
yeah
Where did you get them?🤔
I got them from the official shiftall page. They haven't restocked yet but like I said in the video I recommend following their twitter for new restocks
here is the thing with all non base station trackers. they are all very good and all but lack immense ammount of precision. you can see how much the feet drift arround despit the feet of the real person being planted.
i will always prefer base station tracking as a matter of principle alone
Good for you I guess. And you're making a claim that I've already stated in the video with the tracking precision. Not sure why you're putting it down here like I left it out.
who cares, quit trying to defend your bigger purchase over tiny shit
Where should i order them at?
en.shiftall.net/products/haritorax
Do you need a pc to use the haritorax?
Yes
What pc specs do you have?
In the description!
can you do a video of it stand alone on quest
can HaritoraX 1.1 work with quest 2???
Yeah
@@JordonAM ah good good
he literally has a quest 2💀 did you watch the full video?
congrats on 1.3K views now ERP when
N E V E R
@@JordonAM I'm watching you jordon
as an 12 year old this a way beyond my budget oof my budget is like 10 - 20$
L
Kinect get a Kinect chepest way and there dirt cheap
did you use pc at all
Man did you watch the entire video???
@@JordonAM yeah i did but i dont get it
it said windows 10 when i went to the website but i have window 11 computer will that work or it has to be a pc
is it stand alone or does it need a pc?
It needs a PC
This is a really funny
It says it’s discontinued
Like I said in video. Follow their Twitter. They said they discontinued the original model to start shipping a minor update model that will be easier to mass produce.
Ohhh ok sorry didn’t hear that thanks 😁
So is slime VR not a good way to go currently? I'm just starting to get into VR and think FBT looks like something I really want to get into. I saw slimevr, and thought it looked like a cool concept. Would this be a better choice to slime VR? Or if I have the money, are the HRC trackers still the best way to go?
Slimevr is a pain to set up and you need 2.5ghz internet since it runs by you're internet but if you don't mind spending some time setting it up then buy slimevr
@@ivoxzenzy1593 yeah I've been talking to others and doing some research, and i think I'm gonna go with the HTC trackers. They seem to be some of the better ones and much more user friendly
Soooo you still need a bay station?
I say in the video a few times you don't.
How do you change the twitter to english lul
It's @shiftall_global. Not shiftall_jp
You forgot about slime
You....watched the video right?
> 1:44
> 5:49
*exist*
"You forgot about Slime" 💀
@@JordonAM It would be more accurate to say "exist in retail form". SlimeVR exists, you just have to make them yourself, atm. Whole thing's open source. Still, it's nice to see the US peeps are actually getting HaritoraX, since it got pushed back as well because of shipping issues.
Bro this video is embarrassing. The avatars you people wear.
And yet this video has more views than your entire channel. Cry about it.
Cry more loser
@@JordonAM You’re cringe.
Cope.
@@JordonAM Why do you dress as a girl? Get your pronouns right.