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Sand Blasting Media Cheap Play Sand vs Expensive Aluminum Oxide

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2020
  • In this video I am doing a basic unscientific comparison of sand blasting media. I'll compare plain sifted play sand to aluminum oxide and how they perform in removing old paint from cast iron.

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  • @davidvachitis2236
    @davidvachitis2236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for posting this video! I just bought a new sandblasting gun similar to yours, a used 30-gallon 220v compressor, and 20 lbs of very expensive aluminum oxide media. I tested the blaster on a small section of a wrought-iron railing I want to refinish...it worked great, but I was shocked at how fast I went through a hopper full of media. I never knew about coal slag until watching your video. I just looked at the TSC website and my local store has coal slag in 50 lb bags for $12. I feel like an idiot for buying the aluminum oxide!
    BTW, Zendex makes a media recovery kit that works fairly well if you're blasting relatively even surfaces. It's only about 20 bucks and fits most small sandblasters.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome. Glad you found it helpful. Good luck on your project. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @kristoferadamsonofjohn3714
    @kristoferadamsonofjohn3714 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. I love the commentary. I subscribed today. Thank You this is very helpful 👍

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for subscribing, watching and commenting.

  • @vitessescw
    @vitessescw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use a very large heavy poly bag to blast in. Keeps most of the media for reuse and keeps the dust a bit more contained.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent idea. I'll give it a try next time. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @elancarmel735
    @elancarmel735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought the same gun and Aluminum Oxide on Amazon.. paid about 40 for gun and another 40 for the media. I want to blast the old vent covers I have in the house and this video is exactly what I was looking for.. now, i want to also blast the front step iron hand rails which are rusted.. i tried sanding it, and some other messy solutions.. i hope the blaster works great for that project.. but, i will have a bag of the play sand so I don't waste a ton of money on it. Thanks again.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have since found that Tractor Supply, Home Depot and perhaps other big box stores sell blasting media much cheaper than aluminum oxide. It's coal slag and is about $10 for 50 lbs. Well worth it. Highly recommend using that instead of messing with the play sand. Good luck. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @MA_KA_PA_TIE
      @MA_KA_PA_TIE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elwellboy how much better is the coal slag than play sand?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a lot less hassle and same/better results.@@MA_KA_PA_TIE

  • @daveb2268
    @daveb2268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used tube sock sand and got an empty ice cream bucket, drilled a heck of alota holes in the bottom of it and sifted the tube sock sand through it. I think I used a 3/16th bit for the holes. I used a big cardboard box I cut up for the background and was able to recover prob 2/3rds of it and the sand did a great job.Hope this helps

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting. I have since abandaned the play sand and use coke slag - available in 50 lb. bags for about $10. Works great and a lot easier. Getting lazy in my old age. hahaha. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @Good-Enuff-Garage
    @Good-Enuff-Garage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the timing of this video is perfect as my friend just saw my blasting cabinet setup and goes, I just use sand from Home Depot, lol

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lately I've been using Black Magic coal slag - $10 for 50 pounds at Home Depot or tractor supply. It works great and less hassle than play sand. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @yvesn58
    @yvesn58 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Do you know the difference between silicon carbide and aluminium oxyde for blasting?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First, aluminum oxide is a LOT more expensive. Play sand was also a pain to sift out the larger particles. Now using coal slag. 50 pounds available for about $10. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @JoTheVeteran
    @JoTheVeteran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to get into sandblasting. Can you tell me please the specs of your air compressor you use for that gun?
    I think my own is very weak at 116psi, 7.4cfm

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My air compressor has a 30 gal tank and will go to 135 PSI @ 6.5 cfm. I have it set at 90 PSI and it seems to work this little gun OK. Hope that helps. Good luck. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @jj-eg5up
    @jj-eg5up 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, what did you use to make the sifter?
    I imagine we could use a couple differnt size screens to make a few different grits of media.
    I am all about using play sand, and i am glad i am not the only person with the idea.
    I do also like that we could go over the tight corners with the more expensive abrasives and finish up.
    Thanks for the video sir.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe I used probably 1/8" hardware cloth. To be honest, I have since been using coal slage (available at Tractor Supply $12 for 50 pounds.) It is much more convenient and avoids all the sifting hassle. Some would say safer too. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @godrebel36
    @godrebel36 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great information
    Have you ever mixed equal parts of different blast media?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have not. Lately been using coal slag. Works good and fairly cheap - $12 for 50lb at Tractor Supply. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @mikemosley77
    @mikemosley77 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard many times about using play sand, and I've wanted to use it myself. My concern that has kept me from trying it out though is the fear of moisture in the play sand. Have you ever had any problems with moisture in it? If yes, what was your solution? I thought about getting some, screening it, and then spread it out on a tarp in the hot sunshine just to be safe about it....but then I talk myself out of that because I usually just want to get my blasting done lol

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually I've been using coal slag since this video. $10 for 50 pounds at Home Depot or Tractor Supply. Much less hassle that using play sand and does a very good job. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @scooterss2112
      @scooterss2112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elwellboy Thank you, for your health concerns.

    • @scooterss2112
      @scooterss2112 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should actually put this on your video. A warning. Thank you.

  • @angah9337
    @angah9337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much power of your compressor ? What size ? How much HP ? How about CFM ? Can tell me ?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My compressor is a 2 hp motor - 30 gallon tank - I was running at 90 CFM. A bigger tank would be helpful as the compressor runs a lot to produce air. Not a production set up but works great for small projects. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @robertwenaas7426
    @robertwenaas7426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you running for delivery pressure?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have my air set at about 95 PSI - Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @andrewsapp856
    @andrewsapp856 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater
    @Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater ปีที่แล้ว

    I used zipwall poles and plastic sheeting to build a simple booth if I have to use my aluminum oxide. I assume this is the blasting media of the rich and famous. I capture most of it and pour it back into a bucket and sift it clean. But what a pain! I'll try the coke if I can ever find some.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. That aluminum oxlde is like robbery. You should be able to find coke slag at most Home Depots and definitely at Tractor Supply. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @martinschaffmeir7729
    @martinschaffmeir7729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a product call "black beauty" that comes in a hundred pound bag and is for blasting at around 20 bucks a bag

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate the tip. I was able to find some at Tractor Supply and it works great - and inexpensive. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @drewrinker2071
      @drewrinker2071 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the stuff with coal slag in it??

    • @drewrinker2071
      @drewrinker2071 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok I found it, thanks, it's actually called " black diamond" and 12.99 for 50lbs and that seems like a pretty good deal to me if it works good

  • @metaleater9
    @metaleater9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about mixing the aluminum oxide with the play sand?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      That aluminum oxide was wicked expensive. I'm now using coal slag. About $10 for a 50lb bag at Tractor Supply. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @tinman2420
    @tinman2420 ปีที่แล้ว

    don’t they make thermite with aluminum oxide?

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm - not really sure. Anyway, I quit using it due to high cost and now use coal slag from Home Depot or Tractor Supply and it works great - about $12 for 50 pounds. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @rbrtgreenland6786
    @rbrtgreenland6786 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you tried builders sand

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't. I switched to using coal slag. Sifting the bigger stuff out of the sand was a pain. Coal slag available at HD and Tractor Supply-about $12 for 50 lbs. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @70CadillacMan
    @70CadillacMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play sand lacks silica which sandblasting sand has. For cleaning metal you can also use Black beauty, a coal slab media.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did get some Black Beauty at Tractor Supply. It was $10 for 50 lb. bag - very reasonable and it works very well. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @EdwardFree-kh5jx
    @EdwardFree-kh5jx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The aluminum oxide is a lot less dusty.if that play s and dust gets in your lungs it will shred the m

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, aluminum oxide is a LOT more expensive. Play sand was also a pain to sift out the larger particles. Now using coal slag. 50 pounds available for about $10. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @rebel.mma.youtube
    @rebel.mma.youtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a cabinet would be good cos you reuse? yu cant breathe that in by the way. not good for you

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. A cabinet would be nice. I always were a mask and face protection. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @natas0733
    @natas0733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dumb ass spent the 50 bucks for the Aluminum Oxide... never again

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was my dumb ass moment too. I've using coal slag that is available at Home Depot or Tractor Supply - about $10 for 50 lbs. Works well and a lot easier than sifting play sand. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @natas0733
      @natas0733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elwellboy interesting. I'll give it a look

  • @danpinto2473
    @danpinto2473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is your health warning of possible SILICOSIS? Is saving a few bucks worth damage to your lungs? Does permanent lung scarring, called pulmonary fibrosis sound worth saving a few bucks?. The creator is not wearing proper safety equipment. Anyone that has hobby sand blasted knows simple masks and even a cheap respirator may not stop the fine particles into your lungs! Even with a cheap blasting cabinet you should wear a proper respirator. The key difference between blasting media and sand if that sand has silica. From someone smarter than me; Silicosis is an interstitial lung disease caused by breathing in tiny bits of silica, a common mineral found in many types of rock and soil. Over time, exposure to silica particles causes. Tractor supply sells coal slag blasting media, 50 lbs at about $10

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Only used this sand once. Too much of a PIA to sift out the larger stuff. I'm using coal slag now. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @RC-zm1ir
    @RC-zm1ir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your lungs are toast. That play sand contains bad stuff that respirator will not filter out...

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only used a bit of play sand. Such a PIA to filter it so it will go through the gun. Now using coal slag from Tractor Supply. Works great. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @famdation07
      @famdation07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its play sand kids play in it lol

    • @RC-zm1ir
      @RC-zm1ir ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@famdation07 Do kids slam it into something with great force? Do your research before commenting or don't and earn that Darwin.

  • @jj-eg5up
    @jj-eg5up 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @shanewilson7956
    @shanewilson7956 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you wearing a proper mask silica will kill you long term use

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably not. I usually where a respirator but didn't have it on that day. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @Its303AcidBass
    @Its303AcidBass ปีที่แล้ว

    You just have to sift out the small pebbles in the play sand.

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I switched to coal slag. No sifting needed and it works great and pretty inexpensive. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @lastfanstanding999
    @lastfanstanding999 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did not show a close up of the two types of material, sir !🫣🤔🇺🇸

    • @elwellboy
      @elwellboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry for the oversight - I am now using coal slag - much cheaper and no sifting. $12 for 50 pounds at Tractor Supply.
      Thanks for watching and commenting.