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You nailed the same sentiments I had when the 991.2 Carrera models went turbo. Carrera and Turbo models offer near identical experiences the only question is how much faster do you want to hit prison speeds.
@Tanmay Jamwal that's why there's a GT3. Eventually, anyway. But I think Porsche is probably going to start hybridizing, first with the performance models. Sort of a shame, but then you consider what the 918 can do, as well as the Panamera e-hybrid.
I just dont like what they did to upper front part of porsche with those irregular rectangular lines., seems out of place and nothing like the traditional porsche, wish they had implemented curvy lines like the last 911
It's how approachable it seems despite the crazy performance, and how it goes about delivering said performance in sort of a calm, professional, almost oblivious manner. Like it's not even trying to impress you.
The thing I love about the turbo s is that it’s so discrete. Anyone with a huracan will get cocky and try to race it and not realise just how fast it is
I mean for sure not my favorite car. But my brain tells me that whatever the current gen 911 turbo is are just the best cars. All around I think it's just 90 percent or as good as anything else. If it isnt the best transmission it is a hair away from being so. If it isnt the fastest it is a hair away from being so. If the ride quality isnt the best it is negligible if another cars is better. And often times..... it is the best in various categories but there are 0 major shortcomings whereas many other cars that might be able to best it in certain areas have compromises
Yea, same. Its a car without risk. Like they are becoming too easy, gotta be everything to everyone. IDK I think I would pony up for that Macca GT or something that I know every dentist withing 50 miles will have lol.
@@cylo5770 I mean, that same argument is for people who justify a Rav4 purchase. It's just these are such boring cars. You can't even feel the differences like Matt says. It's more and more an appliance. Yea I'll take the flaws in a McLaren GT and spend more doing it. Tell me people wanna hear about your leather air vent option pack in these 😂. That's the most interesting thing anymore
Can’t wait to read the new Rennlist Turbo S forums where “prospective buyers” argue all day over which paint-to-sample color they should select for the emergency trunk release, so that their new car is already “dialed in.”
Alan C No, I just wanted to share something I find on those forums on another automotive channel. That’s all. I’m not one of those bots or something lol.
@@BarikSingh lol u had the exact comment in another video and u got a bunch likes for it. So u decided why not copy paste my comment in another video to get more likes
21:28 "140mph(?) on the entrance ramp" whoops. But yes, having experienced a spine-crushing launch in the Carrera s, I can say this is all the speed anyone will ever need in a daily drivre(ish) car.
@@RyanConradConradinspire That play on words is just about as trite and insipid as saying "right-arm" instead of right-on. I like it though. Also, too bad the road was wet for this drive test. Cheers
I agree with Matt on this one, that extra power is so unusable for 99% of driving time. Even on a track the average driver won't be able to push the car to its limit. But still insanely cool!
Thanks for being honest about the difference between this and the C2S/C4S. I always wondered whether these turbos were actually much different now that all their cars are turbocharged.
I've always loved the turbo S, it's an amazing drivers machine top to bottom. For my (limited) money, I'd still choose the new 718 GTS 4.0 over this, simply for the naturally aspirated 4.0 and 6 speed manual, but there's no denying that the turbo S has solidified its place as the premiere daily driver supercar.
Saw the singer.....USHER.....driving a BLACK 1 on 285 in Atlanta a month ago....we were right by him and he gave us the thumbs up and kept drivn.....awesome moment to see him and live that
Another phenomenal review and run. Crazy cop story - you are funny bro! I also really appreciate your honesty on this car vs. the Carerra S....sounds like the little brother might be the way to go but then again if I had it, the rear end would say Turbo S. Is there even a difference on the Autobahn with these two, or are we splitting hairs by that point? Now this vs. a used 720S.....hmmmmmm......hmmmmm......that is a tough one. Great job man, keep making these One-Takes please!
wait... Pedro... you're changing up your comment now? You went from "amazingly overpriced" for an entire year to "I'm amazingly broke" now? LMAO!!!!! Looks like you've finally realized it's not the car that's too expensive, it's just that you're too poor to afford it.
Matt, I just wanted to say over the past few years your development in terms of the research, wording and general journalistic tone has really stepped up a notch. It's evident that you put a lot of time into not just the filming, but your planning and opinions too. Well done, keep it up!
I really appreciate the fact that this guy actually showcases the cars for a proper highway drive, it really gives you the best drivers experience and car shopping experience! Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you, I am fully confident on now ordering my Carerra S, I really was torn between the M8, this car and the Carerra S. Thank you so much! you are one of the greatest, most humble and sincere car reviewers our there!
Matt you better slip in your own VBox so at least we can get some NON-Manufacturer #s (which from Porsche are always conservative anyways!) since we have to wait give us something a lil extra!😏
Joe Rogan on the touch screen, love it. Nice sled too, not crazy about the wheels, reminds me of Mustang GT rims from 2014. A bit off topic, I had a dream last night that I had bought a 911, then I woke up :)
"this thing masks speed" I own a 991.2 turbo and this is spot on. I cannot tell you how many times I have been on the freeway and I look down and I'm going 100mph because 100mph feels like 70 in any other car. The real charm to the turbo isn't how fast it is, its not the looks, its not the fact that you can daily drive it. It is how stable and composed the car feels under every condition. You have to take a right turn going 50mph to get any drama out of this thing and even then its only momentary.
@@aiGeis you mean Casey? I selectively listen to him, i dont see him as a money grubber. However, Its hard to hear him from his high horse. Don't hate the guy though.. hard listen sometimes
@@biditnow8869 No, it wasn’t. It wasn’t even an available option until the 992. Same thing for Macan Turbos - couldn’t get sport exhaust until ‘19 and newer.
@@olivergrizzly6346 I sold and built many of customer ordered Porsche from 2016 to 2021. If you turn a Turbo S, Macan Turbo, or Panamera Turbo to Sport Plus, it changes the sound. Just because it wasn't listed as having PSE, doesn't mean its not there already.
Absolutely brilliant commentary and sensible recommendation between the CS and the TS at the end. You just made my decisions between the CS and the TS. It's the CS. Thanks and keep up the awesome work you do!
Absolutely love your review of this car, at the top of the list of all the reviews I've seen on TH-cam. The experience of you driving the car comes through even without the fancy video stuff to ham it up - - I thank you for not having it playing in the background during the drive in the canyon. Peace!
991.2 gen Turbo S could hit the q-mile around 10.6 @ 130mph, 1/8th mile likely comes in around 7.2 range at 110 ish ( 0-100mph is around 6.2 sec) and this thing is faster. Think of it this way, in the length of two football fields (with end zones) from a standstill you are at roughly 110mph plus. If you got a rolling start on to said on ramp at say 30-40mph from an adjacent road, triple digits all day unless that is the shortest on ramp in history.
Great video. Can’t agree more with the “less is the same” theory regarding S vs Turbo S. I have a 991.2 base and would go even further to say that a base will make you completely happy if you are an average Joe😉
Can't wait for the video. I'll probably stick with my 68mm VTG 991.1 Turbo S though. Seems like mostly same or similar hardware and better interior tech and drivers assistance aids which i don't really care for.
Shifting is really reminding me of the 488, where you have to consciously remember to shift way before the redline since the revs climb so fast and the torque drops off at higher RPMs. Gotta feel the torque curve through your seat and shift to keep it perfectly at the peak. Driving a turbo car is a totally different style to driving an NA car like a GT3 or 2.7 Carrera RS
I wish you could habe tested this rocket on our Autobahn i.e. what it is built for. Despite heavy traffic during the week there is ample opportunity to drive it in its natural habitat of between 125 and 175mph on a daily basis.
Despite being an amazing machine, I wish Porsche offered a 911 with the Luxury, confort, 4 wheel drive of the Turbo S, but the 4.0 litre NA engine from the GT3.
I get mine delivered in January 15th 2021! this will be my 1st Porsche and going from a new NSX to this should be a fun change of pace lol I can't wait!
Matt, I'll go beyond your typical (and amazing) review and just observe that you were disappointed at the end. Is it the times, the issues we're facing lately with covid and such, or the 992 turbo isn't as thrilling as before? I'll say both, and 110% agree with your statement: the spiral in numbers and specs has to stop. I honestly get chills when i see a 996 Turbo or mk.1 996 GT3 CS than the new generations. Thanks again Matt for a great, slightly emotional, video!
You can only use so much power on the street. The 992 seems more digital and soulless than all previous gen 911's. The interior is so plastic laden and digital feeling. Every car is fast now, electric are even faster. This is why the GT3 is the best 911, much more character with the 4.0. 991 was the overall best 911 generation ever.
Yes it has too much performance for the real world and puts you at risk for getting tossed in the klink .. but ... the Turbo S does some of its best work sitting still .. Everybody who lays eyes knows that it pretty much owns the road ... a true object of desire for all who love to drive .. that's the TTS
Thanks for the video Matt! Glad you didn’t get arrested or get the car impounded! Funny though, when I think of driving a car like this on the road, that’s what comes to mind immediately!
Well said Matt. This new turbo is a porker (3650 lbs!) and just stupid fast. Base Carrera or C4 is all you need in the US. Better yet get a 997 or 991.1 and enjoy the classic NA flat six power band and sound, at 1/4 the cost.
That’s why I hope our German government will keep allowing unlimited speed on the Autobahn. Then these cars are actually perfect and maybe one day I can afford one
Recently drove 991.1 and 992 C4S back to back. The NA engine with tall gearing is just not very fun in normal driving. The 992 pulls like a mofo in comparison although I thought 991 had better ride, steering feel and sight lines. I suspect 991.2 is the sweet spot.
That's a lot of cash, but it'll probably outperform cars twice it's price soooo......I guess you could say it's a bargain haha? Either way, can't wait for the vid. New Porsche's are always big news to me!
Twice the price? lol like what? The regular car and a tune will keep up with this. If your only dealing with what you get out the factory sure. But modding is where the culture is at now a days. This kind of car is for the 0-60 bench racers, and the old dudes that peacock at 54.
GoogleLeaveMyNameAlone No modded pos “regular” car is going to drive and handle like a brand new 911 turbo S, just because you boost it up to 800-1000 hp. It just isn’t.
Can you please drive the car sometime in the future where the road is not wet I would like to see launch control when you can actually do launch control. With 650 hp. As far as power goes I’ve been driving 911s for a long time I have somewhere around 300 to 350,000 miles in the seat and I can tell you my current 911 is tuned to 660 hp and I just love it !!!! Yes I don’t need that kind of power but I definitely want that kind of power .
So watching this led me on to reading the spec sheet, so the gearbox ratio short of reverse (3.96 in CS, 3.99 for turbos) is the same as the Carrera S and 4S, the final drive is what changed on the Turbo and Turbo S; specifically the rear axle from Carrera S/4S 3.39 to 3.02, the front axle ratio is the same between 4S and Turbos. Oh and the capacity is 3.745, sorry for the correction
He has a good point. I have a 981 Boxster S and sometimes behind the wheel in that I wonder how much more power I could really use or if it is going to just get me into trouble. Cars keep getting faster and faster but most of isn't necessary and not really usable. Their is something pleasant about being able to put the pedal all the way down and not be in danger of losing your license 3 seconds later.
I would think he was driving conservatively given the conditions. But yes I was surprised that he didn’t emote any joy when driving. I’ll take Joe Raiti any day over this guy
Cg3 he’s just very genuine. He won’t portray any fake emotions like many other youtubers. I actually like that about matt. He has plenty exciting vids as well, and you know that the car is exciting.
I absolutely love the 911 Turbo S and I would love to own one. BUT, as Matt states at the end of the video, it’s the same as the entire 911 lineup. I do like the ‘sleeper’ aesthetic, but for $200k I’m probably not even cross-shopping this. The NSX, R8, lower end McLarens all come to mind. At $120k, the Carrera S is the sweet spot for me.
Please, do compare it’s performance with another sport car on same league like the McLarens , the GT 2 RS or even the last 991.2 Turbo. Only awesome, incredible superfast and other adjectives won’t do.
So excited for the 992 GT cars. Hope they don’t make too many like the 991. Although it’s cool that more people can now own a 911 GT car, they’ve taken a serious dip in resale value, unlike the older GTs which appreciated the moment they left dealership.
Man, that last bit really got to me... Im struggling with replacing my 570spider with the 991 Turbo S... but I also keep thinking should I just get the C4S? I already got my license suspended once when they impounded my mclaren for a week... so i dont know if the extra $ is worth the headache it can cause.... Thanks Matt.
Dan S i would say get the turbo s had the 911.2 turbo and the thing was crazy fast and very practical compared to the mclaren of course so i wouldnt imagine this beast it also depends on you if you want a lot of power compared to the 4s id say the extra cash is absolutely worth it you just gotta watch for these cops its not like if you got the 4s you wouldnt go fast anymore
eag 8999 read his main comment. He wants something less fast than a 570 because it got him in trouble. Thinks a Turbo S might also be too fast, which it very well may be. A GT3 is all the performance but just not as fast. Read, man. Don’t come at me.
Isn’t it really good that you can now basically buy a turbo experience as an entry level trim? And if you have to beat the Tesla’s at the red lights, go with the turbo s? (Until the plaid becomes common of course lol)
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Appreciate the Speedy Tuesday flex! I rock mine on a similar strap, makes it the perfect daily wearer.
I liked this video because you got pulled over within ten minutes of driving.
You nailed the same sentiments I had when the 991.2 Carrera models went turbo. Carrera and Turbo models offer near identical experiences the only question is how much faster do you want to hit prison speeds.
Heading over to give ur RNT a read..great video...that Carmine Rex is stunning
YOU were watching JOE ROGAN! Hah! Sux Was looking forward to khabib vs Tony
It's a Porsche, you know it's going to be brilliant.
Meteor Media that’s brilliant
Porsche designers and engineers are just a bunch of German perfectionists. I love it.
Tanmay Jamwal and why is that? I’m disrespecting ur opinion I’m just curious on why u don’t like it.
It makes a person wonder what the GTs are gonna be like.
@Tanmay Jamwal that's why there's a GT3. Eventually, anyway. But I think Porsche is probably going to start hybridizing, first with the performance models. Sort of a shame, but then you consider what the 918 can do, as well as the Panamera e-hybrid.
this is hands down my favorite car on earth.. Porsche got literally everything perfect.
Maxwell Martin mine too :)
Maxwell Martin ummm.. Porsche 911 GT2 RS...
I just dont like what they did to upper front part of porsche with those irregular rectangular lines., seems out of place and nothing like the traditional porsche, wish they had implemented curvy lines like the last 911
@@MrPrush-ji4gs GT2 RS is completely bad ass, obviously, but too race car for me.. I love the Turbo for it's daily manners and luxury 🤟🏼😎🤟🏼
@@enderzebak2863 you mean the little hood lines? I didn't notice that at first..
Porsche always refining and improving can’t wait to see the 992 gt cars
992 GT2RS.... i cant even imagine how insane thatll be
@@emil7088 Scary, because this car is so good.
Abhijeet Kundan can’t wait facts :)
I don’t even know how it’s even possible to beat the previous version but Porsche will find a way
I made a vid on the 992 gt3 rs sound
I don’t want a Lamborghini I don’t want a Ferrari or a GTR I want Porsche 911 Turbo s .
I'll take a 911 and a huracan.
Me too, turbo s with a lot of extras
I'll take a GTR Nismo and this Turbo S. Lambo and Ferrari are over priced junk.
DallasTechie got it the other way around bro
@@Zaza73435 Not really, try putting 100K miles on a Ferrari.
This car is soooo damn unaffordable but damn it i prefer it to any of its competitors. Its just got that special something.
It's how approachable it seems despite the crazy performance, and how it goes about delivering said performance in sort of a calm, professional, almost oblivious manner. Like it's not even trying to impress you.
It’s much cheaper than its competitors affordability is relative
How would you know, given you've never driven any of them?
@@aiGeis Because he just said he prefers it over them. How you know what he prefers if you aren't him?
The thing I love about the turbo s is that it’s so discrete. Anyone with a huracan will get cocky and try to race it and not realise just how fast it is
"All you're getting is you're going to jail faster." lol
Been there, almost done that, like Matt... lol
@@mariodesmo Same man I sit down with an officer for 20-30 minutes. Lucky I wasn't attested.
@@DePancakeMan were you driving in the city or on a back road like this?
Having done time for speeding.. I can say it’s worth it.
J P oh man...lol
From interior to exterior, driving pleasure to performance and comfort, brand reputation to quality, what a legendary car.
I mean for sure not my favorite car. But my brain tells me that whatever the current gen 911 turbo is are just the best cars. All around I think it's just 90 percent or as good as anything else. If it isnt the best transmission it is a hair away from being so. If it isnt the fastest it is a hair away from being so. If the ride quality isnt the best it is negligible if another cars is better. And often times..... it is the best in various categories but there are 0 major shortcomings whereas many other cars that might be able to best it in certain areas have compromises
Yea, same. Its a car without risk. Like they are becoming too easy, gotta be everything to everyone. IDK I think I would pony up for that Macca GT or something that I know every dentist withing 50 miles will have lol.
Marc Favia so you mean to say jack of all trades, master of none?
@@Marcusb338 no more like it is arguably the best in so many categories
Isn't better to have a car that is in everything 99% best in it's class, than a car that's 100% in just one and 50% in others?
@@cylo5770 I mean, that same argument is for people who justify a Rav4 purchase. It's just these are such boring cars. You can't even feel the differences like Matt says. It's more and more an appliance. Yea I'll take the flaws in a McLaren GT and spend more doing it. Tell me people wanna hear about your leather air vent option pack in these 😂. That's the most interesting thing anymore
Can’t wait to read the new Rennlist Turbo S forums where “prospective buyers” argue all day over which paint-to-sample color they should select for the emergency trunk release, so that their new car is already “dialed in.”
Doug Demuro eh?
Do you just write one comment in your Notes and copy/paste it multiple places or....
Alan C No, I just wanted to share something I find on those forums on another automotive channel. That’s all. I’m not one of those bots or something lol.
😂
@@BarikSingh lol u had the exact comment in another video and u got a bunch likes for it. So u decided why not copy paste my comment in another video to get more likes
That ending is so brutally honest totally respect what you have to say!
21:28 "140mph(?) on the entrance ramp" whoops. But yes, having experienced a spine-crushing launch in the Carrera s, I can say this is all the speed anyone will ever need in a daily drivre(ish) car.
Heck and i thought my coworkers 718 Boxster GTS was VERY fast xD
Best car manufacturer in the world in my opinion.
Sick review Matt!!! Thanks for the honesty at the end of the vid concerning buying this car over the Carrera S.
I owned Ferrari' and Lamborghini and honestly , NOTHING drives or feels like a PORSCHE .
Impossible to describe until you are behind the wheel .
*"Good morning everyBUNNY"* Ayee I see what you did there Matt. 😂
I don't get it 😁
mso008 Easter is right around the corner
lol I was like did he just say Bunny? hahaha
@@RyanConradConradinspire That play on words is just about as trite and insipid as saying "right-arm" instead of right-on. I like it though.
Also, too bad the road was wet for this drive test. Cheers
I love that the Turbo now looks plain enough to pass for a regular 911. The big spoiler was always an eyesore to me.
You know they expect anticipation when they post the videos premier time 2 days in advance. 😆😆😆😆
the perfect car i wish Porsche made the sport exhaust with the quad tip look instead of the single dual
503TD They do make em, its an option
XedretL no you can’t get the full sport exhaust with quad tips
like the quads better
Don’t get it from Porsche.. just take your cash to quicksilver so you keep the quad exhaust and it will sound like a race car...
I agree with Matt on this one, that extra power is so unusable for 99% of driving time. Even on a track the average driver won't be able to push the car to its limit. But still insanely cool!
Thanks for being honest about the difference between this and the C2S/C4S. I always wondered whether these turbos were actually much different now that all their cars are turbocharged.
Those proportions are so good. Love the rear end of these cars with the wrap around tail lights
I've always loved the turbo S, it's an amazing drivers machine top to bottom. For my (limited) money, I'd still choose the new 718 GTS 4.0 over this, simply for the naturally aspirated 4.0 and 6 speed manual, but there's no denying that the turbo S has solidified its place as the premiere daily driver supercar.
This car also has the unreleased sport design package.. rear spoiler and front diffuser not standard...
Thanks Matt for your last comments. You saved me a ton of money. I’ll keep my 991.2 GTS Cab for now. Plus it has a manual.
Just...perfect. The perfect automobile. Someday I will accompany my old Tacoma, the perfect truck, with a 911. Someday.
Tacoma?! How about an LC 200 series?!
Tacoma is a shit truck.
I wish you luck man!! Keep working
Tacoma with a 911 LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Saw the singer.....USHER.....driving a BLACK 1 on 285 in Atlanta a month ago....we were right by him and he gave us the thumbs up and kept drivn.....awesome moment to see him and live that
Another phenomenal review and run. Crazy cop story - you are funny bro! I also really appreciate your honesty on this car vs. the Carerra S....sounds like the little brother might be the way to go but then again if I had it, the rear end would say Turbo S. Is there even a difference on the Autobahn with these two, or are we splitting hairs by that point? Now this vs. a used 720S.....hmmmmmm......hmmmmm......that is a tough one. Great job man, keep making these One-Takes please!
Wtf this car is already 2 years old and still feels brand new to me
Same bro lol
Amazing car and I'm amazingly broke
#metoo😅😅
wait... Pedro... you're changing up your comment now? You went from "amazingly overpriced" for an entire year to "I'm amazingly broke" now? LMAO!!!!! Looks like you've finally realized it's not the car that's too expensive, it's just that you're too poor to afford it.
gigi emadi it’s progress, at least Pedro has advanced 🤣😂
One of the rare videos you can actually see the speed through the camera. That second downhill...whoa.
Matt, I just wanted to say over the past few years your development in terms of the research, wording and general journalistic tone has really stepped up a notch. It's evident that you put a lot of time into not just the filming, but your planning and opinions too. Well done, keep it up!
thank you, that was the goal of not driving fan cars anymore. Spending more time and thought on new, interesting cars.
@@TheSmokingTire I'm really enjoying it, thank you!
I have a 4S and have been fantasizing about the Turbo / Turbo S. Thanks for your honest observation I will now be very satisfied with my 4S👍
Jesus!!!! I was so hyped until I saw I had to wait a few day🙄.... I guess I will wait then
I really appreciate the fact that this guy actually showcases the cars for a proper highway drive, it really gives you the best drivers experience and car shopping experience!
Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you, I am fully confident on now ordering my Carerra S, I really was torn between the M8, this car and the Carerra S. Thank you so much! you are one of the greatest, most humble and sincere car reviewers our there!
Matt you better slip in your own VBox so at least we can get some NON-Manufacturer #s (which from Porsche are always conservative anyways!) since we have to wait give us something a lil extra!😏
If it wasn't raining it would have been nice to see some real numbers. 👍
MotorTrend?
@Lambullshitini I hope
@@Heyitsallgoodman Motortrend can't be trusted. They have an agenda. They raced the Tesla and Taycan with the Tesla in eco mode.
Lambullshitini naw
2.4 at best
Joe Rogan on the touch screen, love it. Nice sled too, not crazy about the wheels, reminds me of Mustang GT rims from 2014.
A bit off topic, I had a dream last night that I had bought a 911, then I woke up :)
IMO that is the best looking Turbo in a long time
Time to stare at my screen for 2 days straight then.
"this thing masks speed" I own a 991.2 turbo and this is spot on. I cannot tell you how many times I have been on the freeway and I look down and I'm going 100mph because 100mph feels like 70 in any other car. The real charm to the turbo isn't how fast it is, its not the looks, its not the fact that you can daily drive it. It is how stable and composed the car feels under every condition. You have to take a right turn going 50mph to get any drama out of this thing and even then its only momentary.
omaze seems like a scam to be honest , i think in a few years you will see this on a episode of american greed
Check out Casey Putsch opinion on his channel
Ray Blome what’s the video called? I’m curious to hear what he was to say
@@Heyitsallgoodman speaking of money-grubbers...
@@gt1r "why are car sweepstakes so cringy"
@@aiGeis you mean Casey? I selectively listen to him, i dont see him as a money grubber. However, Its hard to hear him from his high horse. Don't hate the guy though.. hard listen sometimes
Really appreciate the exterior sound clips Matt. So many reviewers talk from start to finish and don't let you hear the exhaust notes.
is it just me or have they really improved the sound of the Turbo S? sounds a lot better than past Turbos
They have. Has some crackling when down shifting and its generally way louder.
You can now get sport exhaust on a Turbo S and couldn’t in the 991.1 and 991.2.
@@olivergrizzly6346 Thats because Sport Exhaust was standard issue on 991 Turbo's.
@@biditnow8869 No, it wasn’t. It wasn’t even an available option until the 992. Same thing for Macan Turbos - couldn’t get sport exhaust until ‘19 and newer.
@@olivergrizzly6346 I sold and built many of customer ordered Porsche from 2016 to 2021. If you turn a Turbo S, Macan Turbo, or Panamera Turbo to Sport Plus, it changes the sound. Just because it wasn't listed as having PSE, doesn't mean its not there already.
I love how simple the inside is. it's classy and has a race car feel without being over the top. Everything is placed nicely.
0-Jail in very fast 🤩
jjustyyn _ 😂😂😂pretty original
Love the old school notes........makes you feel more creative.
Matt, I think you may need to revisit the Turbo on a sunny day and a dryer surface.
Absolutely brilliant commentary and sensible recommendation between the CS and the TS at the end.
You just made my decisions between the CS and the TS. It's the CS.
Thanks and keep up the awesome work you do!
Props for the honesty.
Absolutely love your review of this car, at the top of the list of all the reviews I've seen on TH-cam. The experience of you driving the car comes through even without the fancy video stuff to ham it up - - I thank you for not having it playing in the background during the drive in the canyon. Peace!
Take a shot every time Matt says "Fundamentally" :P
Take a shot every time he says "uhh" and call an ambulance
Smoke meth out of a Mountain Dew bottle every time he says "Good morning every bunny." 1:05
@@Peanutdenver Gatorade bottle cool?
Brutally honest conclusion, Matt. Truly appreciate you being so forthright. 👍
The entrance ramp is plenty long to get to triple digits. Hopefully you weren’t clocked doing that. Oops if you were.
991.2 gen Turbo S could hit the q-mile around 10.6 @ 130mph, 1/8th mile likely comes in around 7.2 range at 110 ish ( 0-100mph is around 6.2 sec) and this thing is faster. Think of it this way, in the length of two football fields (with end zones) from a standstill you are at roughly 110mph plus. If you got a rolling start on to said on ramp at say 30-40mph from an adjacent road, triple digits all day unless that is the shortest on ramp in history.
@@arpadkal +1. Even a car with half this power to weight ratio can be way into triple digits on a medium length on ramp.
Great review .
I waited 30 years to get a turbo ( 997 gen2 ) great car but not emotional
So, a 2021 992 Turbo S as my daily driver, and a 2021 911 GT2 RS as my trackday car.
When I achieve these, I have officially won at life.
Great video. Can’t agree more with the “less is the same” theory regarding S vs Turbo S. I have a 991.2 base and would go even further to say that a base will make you completely happy if you are an average Joe😉
I'm almost 40, I think this is the most tasteful/mature super car you can buy.
can you comfortably afford one?
@@michaelykwon Hell No... But I need that kind of negativity in my life.
@@gmax876 invest in xrp. your welcome
Long time watcher here. Fantastic review Matt. For whatever reason this had a very old channel feel to it.
man, where will this power thing go? 1000 HP in a super (not hyper) sports car isnt too far away
One of the few cars I'd consider getting with 2 pedals. The PDK is supposedly a work of art.
Can't wait for the video. I'll probably stick with my 68mm VTG 991.1 Turbo S though. Seems like mostly same or similar hardware and better interior tech and drivers assistance aids which i don't really care for.
Great video. Also I like what you did there with the JRP on the now playing haha
Shifting is really reminding me of the 488, where you have to consciously remember to shift way before the redline since the revs climb so fast and the torque drops off at higher RPMs. Gotta feel the torque curve through your seat and shift to keep it perfectly at the peak. Driving a turbo car is a totally different style to driving an NA car like a GT3 or 2.7 Carrera RS
I wish you could habe tested this rocket on our Autobahn i.e. what it is built for. Despite heavy traffic during the week there is ample opportunity to drive it in its natural habitat of between 125 and 175mph on a daily basis.
Despite being an amazing machine, I wish Porsche offered a 911 with the Luxury, confort, 4 wheel drive of the Turbo S, but the 4.0 litre NA engine from the GT3.
It’s called an 991.1 CS.
I get mine delivered in January 15th 2021! this will be my 1st Porsche and going from a new NSX to this should be a fun change of pace lol I can't wait!
Matt, I'll go beyond your typical (and amazing) review and just observe that you were disappointed at the end. Is it the times, the issues we're facing lately with covid and such, or the 992 turbo isn't as thrilling as before? I'll say both, and 110% agree with your statement: the spiral in numbers and specs has to stop. I honestly get chills when i see a 996 Turbo or mk.1 996 GT3 CS than the new generations.
Thanks again Matt for a great, slightly emotional, video!
You can only use so much power on the street. The 992 seems more digital and soulless than all previous gen 911's. The interior is so plastic laden and digital feeling. Every car is fast now, electric are even faster. This is why the GT3 is the best 911, much more character with the 4.0. 991 was the overall best 911 generation ever.
Love Porsches, my Turbo is one of the best purchases I've ever made I plan to keep it for life.
Yes it has too much performance for the real world and puts you at risk for getting tossed in the klink .. but ... the Turbo S does some of its best work sitting still .. Everybody who lays eyes knows that it pretty much owns the road ... a true object of desire for all who love to drive .. that's the TTS
i dont understand how they make every generation better than the last and every car is pretty much perfection
i clicked on this so fast..only to see premieres in 45hrs..raises fist in air " damn you..damn you all to hell"
Fredo Cuomo ...good Charlton Heston “Planet of the Apes” quote
Thanks for the video Matt! Glad you didn’t get arrested or get the car impounded! Funny though, when I think of driving a car like this on the road, that’s what comes to mind immediately!
Well said Matt. This new turbo is a porker (3650 lbs!) and just stupid fast. Base Carrera or C4 is all you need in the US. Better yet get a 997 or 991.1 and enjoy the classic NA flat six power band and sound, at 1/4 the cost.
Greg S currently looking for a 997.2...
That’s why I hope our German government will keep allowing unlimited speed on the Autobahn. Then these cars are actually perfect and maybe one day I can afford one
Dave aus München we must fight to win in that regard! It's part of German culture at this point
Recently drove 991.1 and 992 C4S back to back. The NA engine with tall gearing is just not very fun in normal driving. The 992 pulls like a mofo in comparison although I thought 991 had better ride, steering feel and sight lines. I suspect 991.2 is the sweet spot.
That car is already a beast stock. But if it was modified, oh my goodness it would smoke anything in a drag race.
I would take this over a McFerLam anyday
By no means would I take this over a McLaren. To me, McLaren delivers all the exotic car goodies (including the cool doors) for your money.
Wow! The 992 TT is just amazing.
That's a lot of cash, but it'll probably outperform cars twice it's price soooo......I guess you could say it's a bargain haha? Either way, can't wait for the vid. New Porsche's are always big news to me!
The true bargain is always to learn how to build up your own used sports car.
Twice the price? lol like what? The regular car and a tune will keep up with this. If your only dealing with what you get out the factory sure. But modding is where the culture is at now a days. This kind of car is for the 0-60 bench racers, and the old dudes that peacock at 54.
@@googleleavemynamealone9145 Yeah, I'm talking about factory cars.
@@ClayF403 shame. There is a whole world out there.
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No modded pos “regular” car is going to drive and handle like a brand new 911 turbo S, just because you boost it up to 800-1000 hp. It just isn’t.
Can you please drive the car sometime in the future where the road is not wet I would like to see launch control when you can actually do launch control. With 650 hp. As far as power goes I’ve been driving 911s for a long time I have somewhere around 300 to 350,000 miles in the seat and I can tell you my current 911 is tuned to 660 hp and I just love it !!!! Yes I don’t need that kind of power but I definitely want that kind of power .
Now all I have to do is sell my house and pick the single option I want the most...
So watching this led me on to reading the spec sheet, so the gearbox ratio short of reverse (3.96 in CS, 3.99 for turbos) is the same as the Carrera S and 4S, the final drive is what changed on the Turbo and Turbo S; specifically the rear axle from Carrera S/4S 3.39 to 3.02, the front axle ratio is the same between 4S and Turbos.
Oh and the capacity is 3.745, sorry for the correction
Did Matt just say good morning every bunny?
He has a good point. I have a 981 Boxster S and sometimes behind the wheel in that I wonder how much more power I could really use or if it is going to just get me into trouble. Cars keep getting faster and faster but most of isn't necessary and not really usable. Their is something pleasant about being able to put the pedal all the way down and not be in danger of losing your license 3 seconds later.
One word: Autobahn. Being european rules.
@@torod213 would love to. Definitely on my bucket list
When car this fast doesn’t make matt giggle during entire video, you know this car is muted.
100%
It's a boring Autobahn cruiser
I would think he was driving conservatively given the conditions. But yes I was surprised that he didn’t emote any joy when driving. I’ll take Joe Raiti any day over this guy
Cg3 he’s just very genuine. He won’t portray any fake emotions like many other youtubers. I actually like that about matt. He has plenty exciting vids as well, and you know that the car is exciting.
When you just got pulled over and cited, are you enjoying the drive, or still fuming about the enforcement? I think that's whats happening here.
I absolutely love the 911 Turbo S and I would love to own one. BUT, as Matt states at the end of the video, it’s the same as the entire 911 lineup. I do like the ‘sleeper’ aesthetic, but for $200k I’m probably not even cross-shopping this. The NSX, R8, lower end McLarens all come to mind. At $120k, the Carrera S is the sweet spot for me.
Please, do compare it’s performance with another sport car on same league like the McLarens , the GT 2 RS or even the last 991.2 Turbo. Only awesome, incredible superfast and other adjectives won’t do.
MarMPB was waiting for that. Especially comparing it to a 720s so we’d have a perspective of how fast this car really is
So excited for the 992 GT cars. Hope they don’t make too many like the 991. Although it’s cool that more people can now own a 911 GT car, they’ve taken a serious dip in resale value, unlike the older GTs which appreciated the moment they left dealership.
matt was merging the freeway at one fiddy probably
Brilliant conclusion Matt ! Thumbs up
Man, that last bit really got to me... Im struggling with replacing my 570spider with the 991 Turbo S... but I also keep thinking should I just get the C4S? I already got my license suspended once when they impounded my mclaren for a week... so i dont know if the extra $ is worth the headache it can cause.... Thanks Matt.
Dan S i would say get the turbo s had the 911.2 turbo and the thing was crazy fast and very practical compared to the mclaren of course so i wouldnt imagine this beast it also depends on you if you want a lot of power compared to the 4s id say the extra cash is absolutely worth it you just gotta watch for these cops its not like if you got the 4s you wouldnt go fast anymore
400-500hp in a sports car is perfect for the street, more just gets you in trouble faster
Why not a 991.2 gt3?
Matthew Eveland he drives a 570 and a spider at that. What would possibly make you think he’d be interested in a GT3?
eag 8999 read his main comment. He wants something less fast than a 570 because it got him in trouble. Thinks a Turbo S might also be too fast, which it very well may be. A GT3 is all the performance but just not as fast. Read, man. Don’t come at me.
Isn’t it really good that you can now basically buy a turbo experience as an entry level trim? And if you have to beat the Tesla’s at the red lights, go with the turbo s? (Until the plaid becomes common of course lol)
Hey is that a omega speedmaster
Was wondering the same! Which watch is Matt wearing?
It is. Spotted it too
Good spot! Black Snoopy!
Honest assessment/comparison on the experience between 911S and Turbo S.
Porsche.... there is no substitute. 😉
I guess I missed that matt is back on one takes. Glad to have the OG back.
You know you've made it when...
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Thank you for making me feel better about my 992 GTS order :)
Was the embargo just lifted on these reviews?
First drives were canceled or postponed
I guess a few people got the car individually
Yup, globally released 3PM eastern time today I believe
Still my dream car. Best package of car you can buy. Phenomenal
Such a good looking car....man,the lottery is my only hope 😭🤞!
Way more of these cars are bought with earned money than lotteries... Statistically, working smarter/harder is more likely to get you this car.
Lmfao your name
work for it like me... just couple years ago i was jobless debt no education now im making 6 figures and investing
@@michaelykwon How much do you earn per year?
@@a.h.543 100k-150k+ at top pay and pension and vacay and i just made 350k+ in crypto in 6 weeks.
Thank you. Really appreciate the honesty of this review, especially towards the end. Makes a big difference to me.