@@colette7736 I was lots of different characters fruit, sheep, big monsters but my favorite moment is the rat the pulls down the roller blind ... "Tad- aarr!"
As a kid I never thought about it, but seeing these long, unbroken takes as an adult is just amazing. If one person was off their mark with the Muppets, it could throw the whole thing off. And I think this was one of the first productions after Henson's death. The cast and crew put their all into this movie and it shows.
it was THE first production after Henson died. Steve Whitmire was asked to carry on the legacy of Kermit as well as Rizzo Rat (his own creation) and a handful of other characters. Few know but the shooting star at the end is a tribute to Henson himself, recognizing his legacy will continue to rise.
I have just watched this again and I am indeed in shot .... About 3 seconds from the end, Bottom left hand corner ... I missed it last time I looked at this!
This looks fantastic. I also need to say this but Steve Whitmire was so timid here next to Dave Goelz here. Man I miss Steve since he was excellent as not only Kermit but my favorite rat Rizzo.
I would have loved being a puppeteer on the set. I always wanted to be in the muppets. This particular movie is a favorite for many reasons. I sing along every time. Grateful and thankful!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I agree. But my father refuses to watch it because he believes it isn’t true to the source material without seeing it. Maybe I’ll get him to watch it one day, he loves Christmas Carol
@@jamesbrice3267 I have tried, but he refuses to believe me, because it is the Muppets. It doesn’t help that he believes gonzo won’t do a faithful retailing of the entire story knowing he is the narrator, even though gonzo gives it a very faithful retelling. I think the main thing is that it is technically also a Musicals! and my father hates musicals.
Seeing muppet stuff like this being persevered and archived it is just amazing to know that this stuff exists and now can be watched and viewed by anyone who happens to be a fan of the Muppets and that would include yours truly and I would love to know if raw takes exist for other muppet movies even exist and if they do please feel free to share them with us if you do end up finding anymore raw takes from any other muppet movies that is
Thanks for sharing this in open matte. I love the 1.37:1 look and I really appreciate seeing content in it. I don't care how the director wanted the film to be seen
If there are any Muppet fans who love this charming film then you will love the 30th Anniversary Soundtrack Lp which has just been reissued on a picture disc and I have seen the pictures of both sides of the album and I can honestly say that this is absolutely fantastic and the colours stand out perfectly. I am seriously thinking of buying a copy. I welcome any replies. Robert Bridgend Wales 🏴
Incel walk: Removing rods and other "inconsistencies" to make an audience believe them more as characters Chad stride: rods, occasional puppeteers and arm tubes in full view
Beautiful, thank you for taking the time and effort to share this. Do you happen to have a copy of the old extended TV edit, or its longer version of Marley & Marley? Or any raw footage of that song? It has the “if that spirit goes not forth in life” speech at the beginning and the “now it's time to part” verse near the end, like on the OST album. I'm trying to fanedit that back into the film, but the only video I can find is an over-compressed upload of a pretty poor old tape. Thanks regardless.
I’ve always loved this movie, but after seeing so many other adaptations, there are just 3 things I wish they did differently: 1. More Muppets: It would’ve been nice to see characters like Scooter, Mildred, Beauregard, Nigel, Miss Mousey, and Hilda making cameos 2. Martha Cratchit: They should’ve had Annie Sue Pig play the oldest Cratchit child especially since her puppeteer was working on this movie as well 3. Fan: They never mention Scrooge’s sister, the mother of his nephew. I think her death played a huge part in his dark path.
And some more things: - Have the Sesame Street characters (both from the PBS show and its international co-productions) do some crossover cameos and guest appearances like they did in the original Muppet movie trilogy, plus several characters from The Dark Crystal (especially the Podlings), Labyrinth (mainly David Bowie’s goblin goons), The Storyteller (The dog, the demons, the Thought Lion and the baboon-like villains from the Tale of the Bride), Dinosaurs (just the hand-puppet unisaurs), The Secret Life of Toys (the ones that appeared on the Christmas Toy special), Dreamchild and Little Muppet Monsters (Tug, Molly and Boo). And add more full-bodied Muppets like the Mutations, Timmy Monster, Mean Mama, Doglion, Fletcher the Bird, Thog, Soapwith the Camel, the human-sized Muppet that once danced with Rita Moreno, and the Gawky Birds. - Add some Goofy hollers on the film, since this and Muppet Treasure Island were both made with Disney.
@@chuumon95 Have the Seaame gang appear on the Furchester Hotel (based on and predating the British spin-off and co-production of the American original). Have the Podlings work as slaves in a sweatshop run by the oppressive baboon-like baddies of that Jane Horrocks bride story. Have Doglion, Timmy Monster, Mean Mama, the Storyteller devils and David Bowie’s goblin goons populate Hell where they’ll cruelly torture poor Michael Caine as revenge for Scrooge’s deadly sins in the pure, unsanitized Lovecraftian style and attitude. And have Fletcher Bird, Thog, Soapwith and the Mutations mingle around the whole Muppet/human crowd of background extras and take a part on their own dancing in the “It Feels Like Christmas” sequence.
Open Matte means, to put it simply, the full frame of what was actually captured. When films went from fullscreen to widescreen back in the 50s and 60s, a lot of filmmakers found it easier to crop the fullscreen picture that was captured on the film into widescreen, and subsequently film projectors were produced to block out the top and bottom halves so the film would show in widescreen. Overall, open matte isn't necessary for watching a movie since the directors usually cropped it out for a reason, but when the full frame is scanned, it's fun to look into the technical side of filming, especially for Muppet movies.
Great memories from all those years ago, I was hoping my head would get into at least one of these shots so I could say "Thats meeee!"
Do you still work with puppets? Which one(s) did you work with?
@@colette7736 I was lots of different characters fruit, sheep, big monsters but my favorite moment is the rat the pulls down the roller blind ... "Tad- aarr!"
@@knibscratch Amazing!
@@knibscratch Rizzo?!
I was thinking Rizzo but no, the one that pulled down the blinds was someone else. I don't care. In any case that is AWESOME!!!!!
As a kid I never thought about it, but seeing these long, unbroken takes as an adult is just amazing. If one person was off their mark with the Muppets, it could throw the whole thing off. And I think this was one of the first productions after Henson's death. The cast and crew put their all into this movie and it shows.
it was THE first production after Henson died. Steve Whitmire was asked to carry on the legacy of Kermit as well as Rizzo Rat (his own creation) and a handful of other characters. Few know but the shooting star at the end is a tribute to Henson himself, recognizing his legacy will continue to rise.
I have just watched this again and I am indeed in shot .... About 3 seconds from the end, Bottom left hand corner ... I missed it last time I looked at this!
This looks fantastic.
I also need to say this but Steve Whitmire was so timid here next to Dave Goelz here. Man I miss Steve since he was excellent as not only Kermit but my favorite rat Rizzo.
i hope rizzo the rat makes come back one day
@@robertroy92 Me too since Rizzo is really the 90s tude and badassory that we all deserve to see again.
@@JojoMonReturns91 i hope so
Steve was the best after Jim.
June 1992
_So cold everyone realized Mr. Humbug walked around the corner._
Crazy you all had to perform in Sunday best attire in the heat. ; )
I would have loved being a puppeteer on the set. I always wanted to be in the muppets. This particular movie is a favorite for many reasons. I sing along every time. Grateful and thankful!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Of all the versions of this! The muppet versions is the best!
I agree. But my father refuses to watch it because he believes it isn’t true to the source material without seeing it. Maybe I’ll get him to watch it one day, he loves Christmas Carol
@@Lionloverky You should tell him it's the most book-accurate regarding quotes.
@@jamesbrice3267 I have tried, but he refuses to believe me, because it is the Muppets. It doesn’t help that he believes gonzo won’t do a faithful retailing of the entire story knowing he is the narrator, even though gonzo gives it a very faithful retelling. I think the main thing is that it is technically also a Musicals! and my father hates musicals.
@@LionloverkyI wonder if he's seen the Robert Zemeckis one.
14:19 Nice little ad lib there with the Dragon puppet trying to bite the dog guy!
Seeing muppet stuff like this being persevered and archived it is just amazing to know that this stuff exists and now can be watched and viewed by anyone who happens to be a fan of the Muppets and that would include yours truly and I would love to know if raw takes exist for other muppet movies even exist and if they do please feel free to share them with us if you do end up finding anymore raw takes from any other muppet movies that is
30 Years of The Muppet Christmas Carol.
Best show ever by them!
I assume the reason you can see so many puppeteers' heads was because they knew they would crop the image later to make it widescreen.
Great stuff for the nerds. Thank you!
I'm having fun shifting the screen taller and shorter and seeing the cropped and uncropped versions on my mobile
The flute solo at 7:25 makes me cry
What..... a....... find! Thanks for sharing 👍
15:28 That walkway is so narrow! I'm glad Caine didn't slip and get injured
Wow…..extreme open matte here…5!7/ is fantastic!! OuO
Thanks for sharing this in open matte. I love the 1.37:1 look and I really appreciate seeing content in it. I don't care how the director wanted the film to be seen
I think the open matte is cool, but I wouldn't wanna watch the movie like this since you can see some of the puppeteers in the corner of the screen.
If there are any Muppet fans who love this charming film then you will love the 30th Anniversary Soundtrack Lp which has just been reissued on a picture disc and I have seen the pictures of both sides of the album and I can honestly say that this is absolutely fantastic and the colours stand out perfectly. I am seriously thinking of buying a copy. I welcome any replies. Robert Bridgend Wales 🏴
incredible
0:09 it’s the dog from Fraggle Rock
Sprocket!!
@@booberfraggle oh the name of the dog is sprocket thank you 😊
For years I've been trying to figure out why the frog is pulling on that chicken? What is his goal? Stealing it?
Excuse me, can you do the Muppet Christmas Carol raw takes with original audio
Incel walk: Removing rods and other "inconsistencies" to make an audience believe them more as characters
Chad stride: rods, occasional puppeteers and arm tubes in full view
These fine little things make me appreciate the skills of the puppeteers.
The Muppet Christmas Carol Should Have Put unreleased music score into digital download and CD
I second that
I miss Steve being with the Muppets.
Beautiful, thank you for taking the time and effort to share this.
Do you happen to have a copy of the old extended TV edit, or its longer version of Marley & Marley? Or any raw footage of that song?
It has the “if that spirit goes not forth in life” speech at the beginning and the “now it's time to part” verse near the end, like on the OST album.
I'm trying to fanedit that back into the film, but the only video I can find is an over-compressed upload of a pretty poor old tape.
Thanks regardless.
Sorry, unfortunately I don't! This was everything included on the reel I got. Good luck to ya, though!
Wow
where did you get the 5.1 rip and is it still online anywhere?
It's on most recent home video releases of the movie :)
So what you're saying is, they add the sound in later.
The film camera doesn't record sound
All I hear is music. Did I miss the good stuff by coming on this late?? Or has it always been music? Someone help me out, please 😅
The film reel had no audio but there's a reconstructed version with audio in the description :)
Can't hear any sound
Never Before Never again instrumental please
I’ve always loved this movie, but after seeing so many other adaptations, there are just 3 things I wish they did differently:
1. More Muppets: It would’ve been nice to see characters like Scooter, Mildred, Beauregard, Nigel, Miss Mousey, and Hilda making cameos
2. Martha Cratchit: They should’ve had Annie Sue Pig play the oldest Cratchit child especially since her puppeteer was working on this movie as well
3. Fan: They never mention Scrooge’s sister, the mother of his nephew. I think her death played a huge part in his dark path.
And some more things:
- Have the Sesame Street characters (both from the PBS show and its international co-productions) do some crossover cameos and guest appearances like they did in the original Muppet movie trilogy, plus several characters from The Dark Crystal (especially the Podlings), Labyrinth (mainly David Bowie’s goblin goons), The Storyteller (The dog, the demons, the Thought Lion and the baboon-like villains from the Tale of the Bride), Dinosaurs (just the hand-puppet unisaurs), The Secret Life of Toys (the ones that appeared on the Christmas Toy special), Dreamchild and Little Muppet Monsters (Tug, Molly and Boo). And add more full-bodied Muppets like the Mutations, Timmy Monster, Mean Mama, Doglion, Fletcher the Bird, Thog, Soapwith the Camel, the human-sized Muppet that once danced with Rita Moreno, and the Gawky Birds.
- Add some Goofy hollers on the film, since this and Muppet Treasure Island were both made with Disney.
@@eduardoho5637
Okay, I think that is way too many puppets 😅. Plus you gotta think about how they would fit in with the setting of the movie.
@@chuumon95 Have the Seaame gang appear on the Furchester Hotel (based on and predating the British spin-off and co-production of the American original). Have the Podlings work as slaves in a sweatshop run by the oppressive baboon-like baddies of that Jane Horrocks bride story. Have Doglion, Timmy Monster, Mean Mama, the Storyteller devils and David Bowie’s goblin goons populate Hell where they’ll cruelly torture poor Michael Caine as revenge for Scrooge’s deadly sins in the pure, unsanitized Lovecraftian style and attitude. And have Fletcher Bird, Thog, Soapwith and the Mutations mingle around the whole Muppet/human crowd of background extras and take a part on their own dancing in the “It Feels Like Christmas” sequence.
What does open matte mean?
Open Matte means, to put it simply, the full frame of what was actually captured. When films went from fullscreen to widescreen back in the 50s and 60s, a lot of filmmakers found it easier to crop the fullscreen picture that was captured on the film into widescreen, and subsequently film projectors were produced to block out the top and bottom halves so the film would show in widescreen. Overall, open matte isn't necessary for watching a movie since the directors usually cropped it out for a reason, but when the full frame is scanned, it's fun to look into the technical side of filming, especially for Muppet movies.
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John Deaver
8:32
1992
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