@@SamSitar this is what they do, they would pay us much less if they could. while they WASTED 68% BILLION in buy backs & dividends since 2010, us the workers have only had 8% raises spread over the last 10yrs
These are the biggest raises l've seen in a contract since l've been here in the last 16 years. Pension will not come back. Company is 60 billion plus in debt. Meets my expectations but, l got my finances in order regardless. I make great money at Boeing. With the pay grade bumps, it surpasses the 40% target for some. I know people expect more but- greed at at a time when a business is already struggling, meeting in the middle and moving forward may be the best plan of action. In my opinion if this strike continues more than thirty days we will hurt the company. Is that the intention of workers? Then what? More- Layoffs? Off loading?
john/i agree if it continues more than 30 days from now, it will hurt the company...boeing will get a bailout from the govt. just like the auto industry...but what is scary, what if boeing just packs up and leave to another state like SC or the next generation of planes going to SC, better yet, lay people off, go bankrupt and rehire the same people for less?...i heard a guy brag that he worked 200 hours of overtime in a quarter...that means he is cranking well over $150,000 yearly...good luck to everyone paying for their healthcare, mortgage, auto, insurance etc..six months out...and good luck finding another job paying the same...this contract sounds reasonable...they voted the pension plan down before...and i bet many would want boeing jobs...
If these deadbeats don't ratify this offer then they deserve to be fired on the spot. Nobody should have the right to extort anything from a company and that's what a strike is "legalized extortion". At any other company, without union members, employees who walk off the job for whatever reason would be fired. Not even the Federal Government allows their employees to strike - pretty hypocritical don't ya think? Get back to work IAM members - you've done enough damage to all involved......yet you just don't give a damn, do you?
@@pickle8373 I've never been in a union, but I've worked in a large company with both union members and company employees (notice I didn't call both of them "employees"). The union members had a different mindset (e.g. "this isn't part of my job description", "the slowdowns are within my contract allowances", etc.). The company abolished pensions for everyone else before ending pensions for union members, just like many other companies, yet now these IAM members demand reinstatement of the pension plan - it's not only unrealistic, but just not going to happen. Union members are not team players, just self-serving greedy people who care less what happens when they legally extort demands from a company - it severely impacts the company's non-union employees, customers, suppliers, investors and local economies - but who gives a shit, right?
@@pickle8373 - You wouldn't catch me in a union - I have too much respect for my co-workers, the company's customers, suppliers, stockholders and local economies that rely on what my company produces, so I would never hold them hostage if I was unhappy, I'd just leave.
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From what I have seen and heard I think it will be rejected. 60-68% against
why is boeing so poor that workers have to strike?
@@SamSitar this is what they do, they would pay us much less if they could. while they WASTED 68% BILLION in buy backs & dividends since 2010, us the workers have only had 8% raises spread over the last 10yrs
It will pass nobody wants to be on the picket line.
Silent majority do not feel need to tell what they vote esp who have strong opinion. They just decide to vote yes quietly.
@@PatamaGomutbutra shush paid bot.
These are the biggest raises l've seen in a contract since l've been here in the last 16 years. Pension will not come back. Company is 60 billion plus in debt. Meets my expectations but, l got my finances in order regardless. I make great money at Boeing. With the pay grade bumps, it surpasses the 40% target for some. I know people expect more but- greed at at a time when a business is already struggling, meeting in the middle and moving forward may be the best plan of action. In my opinion if this strike continues more than thirty days we will hurt the company. Is that the intention of workers? Then what? More-
Layoffs? Off loading?
its already over 30 days.. bot reply?
john/i agree if it continues more than 30 days from now, it will hurt the company...boeing will get a bailout from the govt. just like the auto industry...but what is scary, what if boeing just packs up and leave to another state like SC or the next generation of planes going to SC, better yet, lay people off, go bankrupt and rehire the same people for less?...i heard a guy brag that he worked 200 hours of overtime in a quarter...that means he is cranking well over $150,000 yearly...good luck to everyone paying for their healthcare, mortgage, auto, insurance etc..six months out...and good luck finding another job paying the same...this contract sounds reasonable...they voted the pension plan down before...and i bet many would want boeing jobs...
fine boeing to stop future strikes.
All I saw was NO VOTES
Gonna be alot of sticklers about a pension
I'd prefer a improved 401k 10 percent match
If these deadbeats don't ratify this offer then they deserve to be fired on the spot. Nobody should have the right to extort anything from a company and that's what a strike is "legalized extortion". At any other company, without union members, employees who walk off the job for whatever reason would be fired. Not even the Federal Government allows their employees to strike - pretty hypocritical don't ya think? Get back to work IAM members - you've done enough damage to all involved......yet you just don't give a damn, do you?
tell me you've never been in a union without telling me you've never been in a union
@@pickle8373 I've never been in a union, but I've worked in a large company with both union members and company employees (notice I didn't call both of them "employees"). The union members had a different mindset (e.g. "this isn't part of my job description", "the slowdowns are within my contract allowances", etc.). The company abolished pensions for everyone else before ending pensions for union members, just like many other companies, yet now these IAM members demand reinstatement of the pension plan - it's not only unrealistic, but just not going to happen. Union members are not team players, just self-serving greedy people who care less what happens when they legally extort demands from a company - it severely impacts the company's non-union employees, customers, suppliers, investors and local economies - but who gives a shit, right?
@@pickle8373 - You wouldn't catch me in a union - I have too much respect for my co-workers, the company's customers, suppliers, stockholders and local economies that rely on what my company produces, so I would never hold them hostage if I was unhappy, I'd just leave.
No on the vote Boeings contracts