@@MenBehavingBadly.I get that it’s not relevant in terms of the fact that we treat everyone equally when it comes to missing/injured/in need people etc. I think it is relevant though to consider his very recent history of being involved in that crime because it could be pertinent to the investigation.
From what I have been reading it sounds like Jay is the “malicious and unpleasant” one!! I did have sympathy for him but not now! It sounds like he will be able to look after himself just fine!
😮@@kimgrant3879..two guys nothing to do with it.....two guys offer third back to there house...3 guys in a house is a threesome...get my drift.. Offered lift inorning but stole watch from one..so kicked out and told to walk
I think soo too! I think they would have found him in the mountains/terrain by now, sadly I now believe the police have been led in the wrong direction and should be investigating other possibilities
@wecandothiswarriors No, Leon does not say he wants him dead. Jay Slater, 18, of Fountains Way, ACCRINGTON - 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work. Convicted of s18 wounding with the intent to cause grievous bodily harm and violent disorder in August 2023, when he was aged 18. He is now 19. Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time of the attack, suffered a head injury so serious his skull was exposed, and wounds to his shoulders and legs in the attack close to the Old Paper Mill in Hermitage Street, Rishton, in August 2021. The Daily Record: Eight thugs who split boy's head open with machete dodge jail The teens were slapped with community service after attacking Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time, with a machete, an axe and a golf club. By Rachel Smith Eve Beattie 19 JUN 2024 Please compare pictures of the convicted Jay Slater in the Lancashire Post article: Eight handed community and rehabilitation orders over attack 4th August 2023, with any other pictures of missing Jay. It is the same person. Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase 30th March 2023
My Son died of very different circumstances, a heart attack, you what if your child son/daughter dies, you've no BLOODY idea , may you hope it doesn't happen to you be ashamed
Theory: He’s got another phone on him. Walked the opposite way on purpose because he’s now hiding out waiting to see if the go fund me gets enough money. Little did he know this case would blow up. Now he’s stuck not knowing what to do
I hope for his mother's sake they find his body but, l'm not sure why the media seem hell bent on eliciting global sympathy for a thug who, with 6 others hunted down and attacked a 17yo boy, using golf clubs, an axe and a machete.
Does that or the other things being said about the kid deserve him dying alone by himself?? 2 wrongs don't make a right.. god love him and his family no matter what people say about them.. 🙏🙏🙏 by the way what way did your parents raise you to make comments like the ones you made??? 💩💩💩
Not when they’re on holiday in another country and its their first time abroad without their parents. He is still only a teenager after all who’s having all of his past mistakes being dredged up to justify ending the search for him. How must his parents feel reading all of this? They know he’s no angel, but its still their son.
Maybe . The only thing that makes me think that is she is a young woman 18 or something why would she leave a secluded place , alone after a festival in a foreign country. It doesn't make sense.
It’s not 27 degree heat there ,especially at 9am, it’s like 18 at most, can’t believe no car has not passed him and has no reason to come off the road, something doesn’t add up especially after hearing his friend Lucy set up a fund raiser for 30k , bizzare
Lot of sniffing and no matter how hard his mum tried she just couldn't squeeze out a single tear for her lovely, nice. popular boy who everyone loved, well apart from the lad he tried to kill with a machete perhaps.
Are you literally blind? You can see clearly when she turns a bit, her tears down her eye by her nose shining in the light, and you can see the tears down her face. Think you need glasses.
@riverusk7801 I'd normally agree but the lad has been convicted of machete violence and probably thinks he's a white character in black drill rap videos.
Because he has a Violent past, machete attack on a boy, where he laughed at the judge during the trial. He’s involved in the sale of drugs, his mother has received a message say kiss goodbye to your boy because he owes me so much money. It’s relevant. Also I don’t understand why everyone is fawning over this man. People go missing every month here, posted Facebook etc everywhere, very very rare to get mainstream media attention. This stinks.
Jay Slater, along with seven other teenagers, was convicted of violent disorder. They attacked Tom Hilton, who was 17 years old at the time, with machetes, an axe, and a golf club in Rishton, near Accrington in Lancashire, in August 2021. Mr. Hilton suffered a serious head injury and wounds to his shoulders and legs during the attack. The group was also found guilty of witness intimidation. Jay Slater, specifically, received an 18-month community order with 25 days of rehabilitation activities and 150 hours of unpaid work12. In defense of Slater, it was mentioned that he had no previous convictions . A nice young man.
Yeah...we know. Everyone knows. I'm personally glad that I'm not of the mindset that I'd leave a young man out to die because of his past. You don't know the extent of Jay's involvement in that crime and it's still a terrible tragedy that anyone is lost out in the elements. Every single comment section mentions what you just did. This is about him being lost, not about everyone in the public playing god!!
Why are people not acknowledging the very fact he is young! He’s a life that is a human life at stake. What the heck is wrong with people like you!? do you have any moral grounding or value? Because you holding that boys past against him to condone the very fact he’s got his life on the line is just as bad as what your making him out to be your an absolute hypocrite in that case! Yes even if he has a past that isn’t perfect that’s irrelevant here he’s had his life on the line he hasn’t lived his life to the fullest his mother and family have to put up with the burden of that and reading comments that people like you put up I can’t imagine how they must feel!? Where’s peoples morality here? Regardless of his past he doesn’t deserve death or his life to be put on the line like this… you ought to be utterly ashamed of yourself frankly
I wondered this. And the lady who owned the air BnB spoke to him TWICE about bus schedules before he wandered off and didn't even offer him a large bottle of water
Why in her interview did Lucy say she rang 911 . I’ve only been to Spain once in my life 20 years ago and even I know it’s 112 for emergency services . She goes all The time ??……
My thing is why did they leave him in the middle of no where if they where going to the airport why didn’t they take him so he can get transportation to his hotel? If they drove him there why couldn’t they take him back I don’t understand this has all to do with the people he left with and they need to be spoken to
They were all off their nuts including Jay obviously! At 8am in morning he's said right I'm going home and they've gone to bed. He's walked it, got lost and sadly died
@@raaaaasable Nobody can get lost on the road in and out of Masca. Have a look at any youtube video driving along the road to Masca. It's the most visited village in the entire Spain. Tourist buses flood in from two directions starting at 9 am. By 10, it's impossible to get a parking spot. No way to get "lost" on that road.
@@blu4085 I'm pretty sure he'd come from the main road judging by his last phone call with his friend. 'I'm lost and have been cut by a cactus.' He's probably been up for two days on drink and drugs, was dehydrated, came from the main road to maybe find some sort of shortcut , easier way down and got lost. What do you thinks happened?
They weren’t friends. They were all hungover or high still probably. He was getting the bus. They needed to get to the airport. They have been interviewed.
Lucy mae story got more holes than a sieve ..the lady whom he asked about the bus only spoke in Spanish .. pass him later going in opposite direction towards the mountains dint stop.. who are these men a 30&40 yr whom apparently r bk in the uk … n all the Sherlock holmes av not managed to suss who they r Why’s the mum not begging people to check there fones .. cctv ect … the whole thing is 🐟🐟🐟🐟
Definitely dead somewhere they said hes got no charge on his phone,no water and probably hasn't got his wallet,it's hot and u can't live more than 4-5 days without water in this heat
As someone who used to take people on trips to Masca. I can assure you it is right on top of the coast and sea. It has very steep drops to the sea, and he would have died and possibly ended up in the sea if he tried negotiating it in the dark. The only way he could have walked back was to keep to the road route. It is not in the middle of Tenerife or Mount Teide, it is on the west coast.
Modern day “Shannon Matthew’s” scam, GoFundMe already at £50k , he’s a violent thug and his mother can’t squeeze out a tear no matter how hard she tries … Very suss Oh and btw, someone named Tom says it’s Karma
Let me guess he owed somebody a big amount of money so the men took him because he owed them a lot of money and they are holding him for money and told him if they get it they will let him go so his mum and friend are keeping it quiet and raising money to pay the drug dealers he owes and then he will be set free
He’s known for attacking somebody with a machete and leaving him in critical conditions and laughing in court I hope he isn’t found and I hope this is gods kalma, that guy in hospital didn’t deserve to be in pain for silly gang type lads like this lad right here getting lots of attention
The victim himself disagrees with you, as he's stated on social media, furthermore, you wouldn't know whether the victim deserved it or not unless you knew him, would you? Of course not, yet here you are, claiming Jay deserves to die, as if you did know the victim lol.. your hypocrisy is comical 😂
@@BLBeats94 you’ll just about say anything you like but defending somebody anybody who puts people in hospital isn’t my thing and clearly not anybody else’s either just jays
guy caved in another teenagers head with a group of lads and hes getting all this media attention yet when someone who actually gives something to the community goes missing its nothing but a post and thats it
He spoke twice to the woman who owned the remote air bnb. Why didnt he ask for water? Why didnt she offer a young boy a large bottle while he made the 2 hour wait for the bus? She said she was in her car and saw him walking in the wrong direction for the bus stop, and tet left him to get on with it. He wasnt ready to travel alone without family. And adults around him didnt behave like adults
His friend leaves early and says he managed to send her a pic of his last location when his battery was on 1% - even though it's not possible to use a camera when the battery is too low, the two guys he went to a b&b with haven't been found.. a go fund me has been set up for the family to go out there, and they seem odd on camera. What is going on? something doesn't seem right.
The Shannon mathews dissapearance sounds a lot like this, mother showing high emotion then talking normal then high emotion again, real grief doesn’t fluctuate up and down
Can’t believe the two guys he went back with have just been let go. They were the last serious people to see him and know where he was. Report of a women seeing him asking for a bus stop but was it even him?
anyone asking how would anyone even think to walk for 11 hours to get back home certainly never got drunk, did drugs and/or went on a 3 day bender. we all do stupid stuff when drunk or under the influence.
His mother is a horrible liar and even worst actor, she keeps forgetting to look distraught every few seconds then you can clearly see how she remembers and snap back into her roll
Has the police spoke to the two lads Jay was with on the island? Has it’s been said they have left the island and now are back in England so the police in England should be going to find the two lads and question them
His friend ‘Lucy’ has set up the page, it’s getting near to 30k and yep, she’s not even given a reason for needing all the money. This is why I’m starting to think the whole thing is suspicious
Ok so if they spoke to those lads then did they ask about Jay ? Why did they not ask where Jay is? Why did they let them fly home? Investigation isn’t it???
They stayed an extra day to help police and said they kicked him out when they caught him stealing a watch just as they were about to give him a lift back
The simple fact is that Tenerife is full of chancers like Jay, and the cops probably know it’s tied to the illegal trade in pills and powder. They ain't too bothered that one potential dealer got taken out.
Jay was high and drunk and awake for days - as his mum says , hes a sensible boy !!! The family are making him disappear but havent properly sorted the story . Everyone of them comes across as dodgy
1% phone battery left, calls friend to complain about it instead of calling authorities so they can ping his location... Something seems a bit set up, and im not talking about the jay slater gofundme
As a mother, I would be hysterical. Everything she says sounds rehearsed and the tears don't feel genuine. I would be so distraught I wouldn't be able to think about scenarios, I'd be a mess. I know everyone's different but her interview doesn't sit right with me.
He got in a car with the two guys to go back to theirs, they were going to drive him back and as they were leaving they caught him stealing a watch and kicked him out he phoned Lucy said he was getting the bus after a few hours Lucy got a lift to the air BnB to ask where he was and they said he’d left a few hours before
That girl did not speak to him on the phone. The phone was used to make the call because they knew it could be traced. She is lying. I knew this straight away when I heard her. Making things up like cutting his leg on a cactus and suggesting Lucy called 911 in Spain? Also claiming that she left the party earlier because she felt tired. How convenient. Wanted to make sure she had an alibi. 100%. She knows what happened
Very wishy washy.. Drove to accommodation of these two guys, ok, how? Rental ?, taxi,? Has this been checked, how dod the lads get to airport to go home nxt day in same car ? Taxi ? Did Jay walk back to thrir accommodation after last phone one call to Lucy? He couldn't of got very far in the heat & thirsty & injured from a nasty cacti scratch... Have they gone te way the last woman saw jay go up the Mountain supposedly, so have searchers gone same direction if they had surely he wouldn't be too far away, ... This is odd i feel something sinister maybe to do with the vehicle used by the guys , did he go nack & argue cos they wouldn't drive him back ? Did it escalate? I am very curious about the means of their transport from rave to 40 pound accommodation a night, .... This is important, or maybe jay really did walk up a Mountain 11 hrs away from his place, ?? He would rather walk into oblivion then wait for 2 hrs for the bus, he was thirsty & wated cigarettes, so why would he walk into foreign unknown mountains of cactus shrubs clifs , Mountains, & in a heat wave?????
Also I don't think everyone wants to be in his company... Especially not the guy he nearly killed.
What’s that got to do with him going missing…stay off the crack irrelevance
@@MenBehavingBadly.Hey thicko. What she’s saying is let him rot. And you can join him.
@@MenBehavingBadly. it got 35 likes , lulufalulu is probably feeling pretty good about themselves.
@@peterarmstrong6730 35 likes from 5.41 million followers…..👎👎
@@MenBehavingBadly.I get that it’s not relevant in terms of the fact that we treat everyone equally when it comes to missing/injured/in need people etc. I think it is relevant though to consider his very recent history of being involved in that crime because it could be pertinent to the investigation.
Is this another Shannon Matthews? Mum seems to be faking......
She's a chav
Yeah I got that vibe
Very dodgy
My thoughts exactly. Begging for your sons return but stop to drink your orange juice 🤔
Something felt off.
Something feels very very off about this ,somethings not right ,im not finding the mother genuine? Hope im wrong
Yap I have the same feeling!
Me too. I feel the same
Sketchy.
Spot on
Go fund me , not for a class A drug dealer & violent thug...
From what I have been reading it sounds like Jay is the “malicious and unpleasant” one!! I did have sympathy for him but not now! It sounds like he will be able to look after himself just fine!
Snap
What you write is just so ... true.
Can't believe he's not banned from travelling abroad for a number of years.
thats okay then
Let him fend for himself
Lucy and these two guys need a really good interview
Who are these two men.heard they left .
@@kimgrant3879 lucys friends
its all a scam the gofund me is a scam
😮@@kimgrant3879..two guys nothing to do with it.....two guys offer third back to there house...3 guys in a house is a threesome...get my drift..
Offered lift inorning but stole watch from one..so kicked out and told to walk
I think soo too! I think they would have found him in the mountains/terrain by now, sadly I now believe the police have been led in the wrong direction and should be investigating other possibilities
No mention that the two men have been interviewed
Known for violence and drugs hes not a nice lad
Doesn’t mean he deserves to die on a mountain in a foreign country???
Ok but what’s that got to do with him going missing? Yeah you wish him dead! That makes YOU as bad as what you think he is🙄
@wecandothiswarriors No, Leon does not say he wants him dead.
Jay Slater, 18, of Fountains Way, ACCRINGTON - 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work. Convicted of s18 wounding with the intent to cause grievous bodily harm and violent disorder in August 2023, when he was aged 18. He is now 19.
Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time of the attack, suffered a head injury so serious his skull was exposed, and wounds to his shoulders and legs in the attack close to the Old Paper Mill in Hermitage Street, Rishton, in August 2021.
The Daily Record: Eight thugs who split boy's head open with machete dodge jail
The teens were slapped with community service after attacking Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time, with a machete, an axe and a golf club.
By Rachel Smith Eve Beattie
19 JUN 2024
Please compare pictures of the convicted Jay Slater in the Lancashire Post article: Eight handed community and rehabilitation orders over attack 4th August 2023, with any other pictures of missing Jay. It is the same person.
Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back.
Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase
30th March 2023
Not really...😂@@wecandothiswarriors
My Son died of very different circumstances, a heart attack, you what if your child son/daughter dies, you've no BLOODY idea , may you hope it doesn't happen to you be ashamed
Theory: He’s got another phone on him. Walked the opposite way on purpose because he’s now hiding out waiting to see if the go fund me gets enough money. Little did he know this case would blow up. Now he’s stuck not knowing what to do
Off all the theories this seems to be the one that makes sense
yep, this makes sense. lying low and waiting.
when you say "hiding out" you mean he found accommodation somewhere? another friend is hiding him? what do you think?
I hope for his mother's sake they find his body but, l'm not sure why the media seem hell bent on eliciting global sympathy for a thug who, with 6 others hunted down and attacked a 17yo boy, using golf clubs, an axe and a machete.
Because he’s human like you ?
Nobody knows if he’s dead. The paths leading to kidnapping
you sir/madm/they are a pudding. Get some fresh air.. put the phone down. Take care
@@MarkMcGhoo can u leave me alone?
Exactly, all this is distractions
Whatever you do, do not donate to the go fund me!!!!!!
You want locking up you sick troll!
That ship has sailed they already have 30k in the pot
No mention of him dealing then??
Does that or the other things being said about the kid deserve him dying alone by himself?? 2 wrongs don't make a right.. god love him and his family no matter what people say about them.. 🙏🙏🙏 by the way what way did your parents raise you to make comments like the ones you made??? 💩💩💩
@@jirish8067 they probably haven't raised a drug dealer and thug.
So many people go missing and don't this attention
Next of kin to missing person needs to speak up.
They can't all get the same attention. Not a whole lot go missing in Tenerife in fairness.
I'm getting George floyd tickles here
@@johnmc3862 And nobody goes missing on the one road in and out of Masca. No-one.
Not when they’re on holiday in another country and its their first time abroad without their parents. He is still only a teenager after all who’s having all of his past mistakes being dredged up to justify ending the search for him. How must his parents feel reading all of this? They know he’s no angel, but its still their son.
Lucy knows more than she’s letting on
Maybe . The only thing that makes me think that is she is a young woman 18 or something why would she leave a secluded place , alone after a festival in a foreign country. It doesn't make sense.
She’s a drug mule she goes to different countries to the night clubs selling drugs she talked him into doing it with her in Tenerife and hear we are
It’s not 27 degree heat there ,especially at 9am, it’s like 18 at most, can’t believe no car has not passed him and has no reason to come off the road, something doesn’t add up especially after hearing his friend Lucy set up a fund raiser for 30k , bizzare
It goes upto 25 in the day which is pretty hot especially next to africa the sun is not the same as the uk
They think they live in soaps...hope the book is throw if found and...its a scam...for money...
25? Is that it 😂. That's cold compared to Egypt etc 🤦♀️
I agree. I think it's a scam.
Why didnt lucy pick him up after his message. She knew where he was.
Go Fund Me scam?
1 million %
I’d rather give money to a sick or disabled child than a self inflicted addict.
My god there are reals trolls out there
@user-mi7gc3xw9r I'm no troll, just my opinion but if a wrong I will apologise, I do hope the lads safe omi f scam or no scam
@@user-mi7gc3xw9rhonest trolls.
What would raising funds do exactly?
The go fund me page does not want to mention his past vicious atrocity. It may affect the donations.
And?
@@wecandothiswarriors you know any other words? Your vocabulary appears very limited. I'll help if necessary.
@@stuartwilson3753iv seen the same my friend
Itshould be shut down, disgusting
Facts also if he was in prison for attempted murder like he should be he would never of gone missing, stop wasting money tax payer money he obv dead
SCAM! They have set up a GO FUND ME, which has raised, £25,439 raised of £30,000 target. People are so stupid!
It’s been a scam right from the beginning… none of the stories are adding up. He will be found when money reaches its target, surprise surprise.
What is a scam is you ! Troll like behaviour running with Chinese tik tok false information is crass.
@@CluelesswanderThey found him👍
Lot of sniffing and no matter how hard his mum tried she just couldn't squeeze out a single tear for her lovely, nice. popular boy who everyone loved, well apart from the lad he tried to kill with a machete perhaps.
So it's a blag for 💰
Jewellery on too, last thing I would think about wearing under the circumstances
That was my immediate thought when I saw it, sniveling couldn’t force a wet eye but not for trying.
Gofundme to pay off his drug debt
Are you literally blind? You can see clearly when she turns a bit, her tears down her eye by her nose shining in the light, and you can see the tears down her face. Think you need glasses.
If this is all a scam, then make him pay for all the policing costs.
Exactly 👍
People donated 20k already, now I know the answer he is hiding and trying to pay his drugs debts with that money.
Show a little respect ffs
His family have used that to fly out there for a holiday
@@riverusk7801 Respect is earned
What a disgusting thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself
@riverusk7801
I'd normally agree but the lad has been convicted of machete violence and probably thinks he's a white character in black drill rap videos.
No tears from the Mother, just noise.
Why are you not reporting on his past ffs
How is his past relevant?
@@melontusk9660seems pretty relevant ,I don't really care if he's found if he's a thug tbh
Because he has a Violent past, machete attack on a boy, where he laughed at the judge during the trial. He’s involved in the sale of drugs, his mother has received a message say kiss goodbye to your boy because he owes me so much money. It’s relevant. Also I don’t understand why everyone is fawning over this man. People go missing every month here, posted Facebook etc everywhere, very very rare to get mainstream media attention. This stinks.
@@Karl-v6b agree.his past is very relevant.
Owe someone 50k. Probably been taken out.
This woman doesnt sound convincingly distraught
?
Who gets the gofundme money?, what's it being raised for?
Drugs lol.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself
The Albanians
And why 30k
@@nikw1611check his history you might change your mind 😂😂
Don’t do drugs guys 👉👉👉
Yes, don't do drugs
Drugs are fine if you stay away from mountains
Don't rip off drug dealers, they won't find him
Don’t go off into mountains in a foreign country especially one so hot .
Party drugs money ....
Jay Slater, along with seven other teenagers, was convicted of violent disorder. They attacked Tom Hilton, who was 17 years old at the time, with machetes, an axe, and a golf club in Rishton, near Accrington in Lancashire, in August 2021. Mr. Hilton suffered a serious head injury and wounds to his shoulders and legs during the attack. The group was also found guilty of witness intimidation. Jay Slater, specifically, received an 18-month community order with 25 days of rehabilitation activities and 150 hours of unpaid work12. In defense of Slater, it was mentioned that he had no previous convictions . A nice young man.
what country
🥱🥱
Yeah...we know. Everyone knows. I'm personally glad that I'm not of the mindset that I'd leave a young man out to die because of his past. You don't know the extent of Jay's involvement in that crime and it's still a terrible tragedy that anyone is lost out in the elements. Every single comment section mentions what you just did. This is about him being lost, not about everyone in the public playing god!!
Why are people not acknowledging the very fact he is young! He’s a life that is a human life at stake. What the heck is wrong with people like you!? do you have any moral grounding or value? Because you holding that boys past against him to condone the very fact he’s got his life on the line is just as bad as what your making him out to be your an absolute hypocrite in that case! Yes even if he has a past that isn’t perfect that’s irrelevant here he’s had his life on the line he hasn’t lived his life to the fullest his mother and family have to put up with the burden of that and reading comments that people like you put up I can’t imagine how they must feel!? Where’s peoples morality here? Regardless of his past he doesn’t deserve death or his life to be put on the line like this… you ought to be utterly ashamed of yourself frankly
He's a wrong un & violent criminal 😡 owes drug money!
Why didn’t the 2 Brits he met offer a lift ???
Probably thy were still full of drink ,drugs to drive
Pump and dump
They did? To Masca right?
I wondered this. And the lady who owned the air BnB spoke to him TWICE about bus schedules before he wandered off and didn't even offer him a large bottle of water
@@amo2464 Why would you offer anyone a large bottle of water? She didn't know he was planning to go missing over the next days or was even thirsty?
Amazing skill the mother has, crying with no tears.
Why in her interview did Lucy say she rang 911 . I’ve only been to Spain once in my life 20 years ago and even I know it’s 112 for emergency services . She goes all
The time ??……
Who are these idiots giving to the go fund me? You’re either paying his drug debts, or for his mother’s next holiday.
Same ones sending “thoughts and prayers” and hope he’s found “alive and well”
Troll!
where are the two men he went with? and there is a lot of bad stuff being said about this Jay.
They've left the Island
only the Truth though .
My thing is why did they leave him in the middle of no where if they where going to the airport why didn’t they take him so he can get transportation to his hotel? If they drove him there why couldn’t they take him back I don’t understand this has all to do with the people he left with and they need to be spoken to
They were all off their nuts including Jay obviously! At 8am in morning he's said right I'm going home and they've gone to bed. He's walked it, got lost and sadly died
Yea this is strange. Just started following the story. So many unanswered questions. Friends should not separate from each other ❤
@@raaaaasable Nobody can get lost on the road in and out of Masca. Have a look at any youtube video driving along the road to Masca. It's the most visited village in the entire Spain. Tourist buses flood in from two directions starting at 9 am. By 10, it's impossible to get a parking spot. No way to get "lost" on that road.
@@blu4085 I'm pretty sure he'd come from the main road judging by his last phone call with his friend. 'I'm lost and have been cut by a cactus.' He's probably been up for two days on drink and drugs, was dehydrated, came from the main road to maybe find some sort of shortcut , easier way down and got lost. What do you thinks happened?
They weren’t friends. They were all hungover or high still probably. He was getting the bus. They needed to get to the airport. They have been interviewed.
Lucy mae story got more holes than a sieve ..the lady whom he asked about the bus only spoke in Spanish .. pass him later going in opposite direction towards the mountains dint stop.. who are these men a 30&40 yr whom apparently r bk in the uk … n all the Sherlock holmes av not managed to suss who they r
Why’s the mum not begging people to check there fones .. cctv ect … the whole thing is 🐟🐟🐟🐟
First of all,she knows where he is,gofundme is for later use,hes in a scam,
Is the gofundme to pay off a drug debt?
Yes I think so 30k
*off
@@finnishinsider1569 fixed grammar 👍
Definitely dead somewhere they said hes got no charge on his phone,no water and probably hasn't got his wallet,it's hot and u can't live more than 4-5 days without water in this heat
He's dead
Scam for the gofundme money
He really is missing there is no go fund me
@@GerardineMcguirkyes they have set up gofundme !!!
@@GerardineMcguirk /watch?v=8YzIyhODaCU&t=222s
Yes there is.
There is go fund page...27.5k
@@GerardineMcguirkthere is and it’s nearly at 30 k
As someone who used to take people on trips to Masca. I can assure you it is right on top of the coast and sea. It has very steep drops to the sea, and he would have died and possibly ended up in the sea if he tried negotiating it in the dark. The only way he could have walked back was to keep to the road route. It is not in the middle of Tenerife or Mount Teide, it is on the west coast.
It was 8 in the morning when he left the bnb
So sad for mom, Debbie, let us hope Jay is found soon and in good health.
Modern day “Shannon Matthew’s” scam, GoFundMe already at £50k , he’s a violent thug and his mother can’t squeeze out a tear no matter how hard she tries …
Very suss
Oh and btw, someone named Tom says it’s Karma
I agree. It's a scam.
British are so gullibe and happy to part with money which are probably from their benefits
I am on holiday in Tenerife and wish that poxy helicopter would stop flying about!
Get just stop oil onto it
Greta's going barmy
How do you sleep, he could be sneaking in your windows with a machete right now?
@@Varro88 slipping drugs in to his mouth that he ain't paid for 😞
@@Varro88 He is already back in England :)
Let me guess he owed somebody a big amount of money so the men took him because he owed them a lot of money and they are holding him for money and told him if they get it they will let him go so his mum and friend are keeping it quiet and raising money to pay the drug dealers he owes and then he will be set free
He’s known for attacking somebody with a machete and leaving him in critical conditions and laughing in court I hope he isn’t found and I hope this is gods kalma, that guy in hospital didn’t deserve to be in pain for silly gang type lads like this lad right here getting lots of attention
The victim himself disagrees with you, as he's stated on social media, furthermore, you wouldn't know whether the victim deserved it or not unless you knew him, would you? Of course not, yet here you are, claiming Jay deserves to die, as if you did know the victim lol.. your hypocrisy is comical 😂
You come across as bitter, twisted and vile. Just as bad mate
@@BLBeats94 you’ll just about say anything you like but defending somebody anybody who puts people in hospital isn’t my thing and clearly not anybody else’s either just jays
Totally agree
Stop sniffing ..doesnt mean anything ...false...
Coke habit or trying to pretend to cry ! Full of it !
Said exactly the same, poor actor, karen Matthews the 2nd.@@JayneCooper-r8f
Thats the guys mother ffs. She must be going through hell right now.
Just wait to see the outcome ...
Oh dear, how sad , never mind.
Did he not take his machete with him?
Why have they not used thermal imaging at night??
That's a pretty good question
Because this is the Police in Tenerife not the US Military in Afghan.
@@creativeamerican8811 haha
Because dead bodies don't give off heat.
Yes I know dead bodies don't give of heat but they thermal imaging
in England & here where I live in Northern Ireland it just seems strange
what goes around comes around he did try and kill someone last year
guy caved in another teenagers head with a group of lads and hes getting all this media attention yet when someone who actually gives something to the community goes missing its nothing but a post and thats it
It's because Tenerife is like THE holiday destination for Brits. Creates a bigger headline.
He spoke twice to the woman who owned the remote air bnb. Why didnt he ask for water? Why didnt she offer a young boy a large bottle while he made the 2 hour wait for the bus? She said she was in her car and saw him walking in the wrong direction for the bus stop, and tet left him to get on with it. He wasnt ready to travel alone without family. And adults around him didnt behave like adults
There was a restaurant up the road. It’s a tourist bus route. Why would a Spanish lady invite a drug fuelled thug into her house?
His friend leaves early and says he managed to send her a pic of his last location when his battery was on 1% - even though it's not possible to use a camera when the battery is too low, the two guys he went to a b&b with haven't been found.. a go fund me has been set up for the family to go out there, and they seem odd on camera. What is going on? something doesn't seem right.
Got a feeling this will be on Lad bible as the ultimate bender.
Hahaha
That lad will be in that sea somewhere brought on by the girl story that doesn't add up
I agree. The girls story doesn't add up.
@courtneysquill8843 she could have gone and picked him up with transport after his message .
Something is well off here, loads of people go missing every year and never get this coverage.
Next of kin or friends of a missing person must speak up - demand attention.
The Shannon mathews dissapearance sounds a lot like this, mother showing high emotion then talking normal then high emotion again, real grief doesn’t fluctuate up and down
Can’t believe the two guys he went back with have just been let go.
They were the last serious people to see him and know where he was.
Report of a women seeing him asking for a bus stop but was it even him?
*woman
They haven’t been let go. They are in the uk being interviewed. 👮
@@Lisa-nr7er
Interviewed by who?
The British police are not involved.
It’s a scam
His mother knows more than she is letting on, she has ‘ DUPPERS DELIGHT” as she is trying to hide her smirk.
Not seeing that, she looks upset to me , every one expresses grief in different ways. We shouldn’t judge
Its pretty sad for his mother and family that he is missing,but im shocked about the stories coming out related to his past,😮😮
anyone asking how would anyone even think to walk for 11 hours to get back home certainly never got drunk, did drugs and/or went on a 3 day bender. we all do stupid stuff when drunk or under the influence.
His mother is a horrible liar and even worst actor, she keeps forgetting to look distraught every few seconds then you can clearly see how she remembers and snap back into her roll
Hopefully they find this missing neurosurgeon 🙏
If he walked off they would have found his body by now
the whole situation is horrific . I remember that age when you feel indestructable and do silly things. I do hope they find him, his poor family
Has the police spoke to the two lads Jay was with on the island? Has it’s been said they have left the island and now are back in England so the police in England should be going to find the two lads and question them
Sorry but mum is way too calm. Doesn't seem any where near upset enough considering. Something don't add up
Who's getting the go fund me money? What's it being used for?
His friend ‘Lucy’ has set up the page, it’s getting near to 30k and yep, she’s not even given a reason for needing all the money. This is why I’m starting to think the whole thing is suspicious
Ok so if they spoke to those lads then did they ask about Jay ? Why did they not ask where Jay is? Why did they let them fly home? Investigation isn’t it???
They stayed an extra day to help police and said they kicked him out when they caught him stealing a watch just as they were about to give him a lift back
Of course they asked. He got kicked out and he was getting a bus. They are helping with the investigation.
The simple fact is that Tenerife is full of chancers like Jay, and the cops probably know it’s tied to the illegal trade in pills and powder. They ain't too bothered that one potential dealer got taken out.
2:36 what was that footage about?
The photo with the cigarette shows flowered trousers didn't it ? I thought he had shorts on ?
Why didn't lucy go pick him up after his message. Instead she went later.
Did she?
@@courtneysquill8843 apparently according to some.
Because lucy was getting her back door seen to by a bbc who she met at the rave
Jay was high and drunk and awake for days - as his mum says , hes a sensible boy !!! The family are making him disappear but havent properly sorted the story . Everyone of them comes across as dodgy
Surely if he was into drug trouble then the UK police can track his texts for leads?
*English police
What goes around comes around unfortunately... Hollyoaks acting off the mum.
Wow!! That sounds a bit insensetive an harsh. Remind me not to cry at your funeral,when it comes around.
Wow you absolute trollop how dare you
I was thinking the same ,I really was
I agree with you. She was hard pushed to get a tear out. Strange. Lots of sniffing though.
Correct spelling: Insensitive @@milesjazz9957
Doesn't add up. His track record, invited tonhouse party by a couple of black men then decided to do an 11 hour walk.......quite normal
He got kicked out coz he tried to steal a watch after they were leaving to give him a lift back too
1% phone battery left, calls friend to complain about it instead of calling authorities so they can ping his location... Something seems a bit set up, and im not talking about the jay slater gofundme
With all he hungry wild boars in the area, maybe they'll find a piece of his clothing or his phone or something.
maybe has another phone and keeping in touch to see how things are going.. just saying
Tenegrief…. Those hills have history
As a mother, I would be hysterical. Everything she says sounds rehearsed and the tears don't feel genuine. I would be so distraught I wouldn't be able to think about scenarios, I'd be a mess. I know everyone's different but her interview doesn't sit right with me.
Very fishy
ooh dad looks distraught NOT
See….. if the justice system sent him to prison we’d know where he was. This one’s on the UK courts
If he'd been in prison where he should have been he'd have been fine.
He got in a car with the two guys to go back to theirs, they were going to drive him back and as they were leaving they caught him stealing a watch and kicked him out he phoned Lucy said he was getting the bus after a few hours Lucy got a lift to the air BnB to ask where he was and they said he’d left a few hours before
Google maps used a different route
Not the first to go missing in tenerife don't hear about it because it affects tourists
Hes no Angel he (and his mates were convicted of attacking some guy with a machete a few months back
Why wasn’t he jailed? That would be attempted murder.
Hes in jail found guilty of attempted murder.
This a scam that has gone horribly wrong or beautifully right...boot this human was not nice.hope there is a conclusion.
Thoughts sent.
Air B+B who owns the place those people he went of wit..
That girl did not speak to him on the phone. The phone was used to make the call because they knew it could be traced. She is lying. I knew this straight away when I heard her. Making things up like cutting his leg on a cactus and suggesting Lucy called 911 in Spain? Also claiming that she left the party earlier because she felt tired. How convenient. Wanted to make sure she had an alibi. 100%. She knows what happened
It's a shame but I think all is lost with finding this young man alive
Was he an aspiring architect?
In a drug gang dealing class A
He dont deserve to be found
Look. If you dont want people to speculate or shed light on something or have an opinion then keep this case to yourselves
Very wishy washy..
Drove to accommodation of these two guys, ok, how? Rental ?, taxi,? Has this been checked, how dod the lads get to airport to go home nxt day in same car ? Taxi ?
Did Jay walk back to thrir accommodation after last phone one call to Lucy?
He couldn't of got very far in the heat & thirsty & injured from a nasty cacti scratch...
Have they gone te way the last woman saw jay go up the Mountain supposedly, so have searchers gone same direction if they had surely he wouldn't be too far away, ...
This is odd i feel something sinister maybe to do with the vehicle used by the guys , did he go nack & argue cos they wouldn't drive him back ? Did it escalate? I am very curious about the means of their transport from rave to 40 pound accommodation a night, .... This is important, or maybe jay really did walk up a Mountain 11 hrs away from his place, ?? He would rather walk into oblivion then wait for 2 hrs for the bus, he was thirsty & wated cigarettes, so why would he walk into foreign unknown mountains of cactus shrubs clifs , Mountains, & in a heat wave?????
What the he'll they doing walking through a tree
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's done a bunk so he doesn't have to do his sentence