Mock all you want but it was tik tokers and social media sleuths that helped solve the Gabby Petito case back in 2021. They literally assisted the police so much and actually found the location of Gabby's vehicle which ultimately led the police in the right direction to find her body. Also, his violent and criminal history is indeed relevant as it indicates what sort of individual he is and who he might associate himself with.
Theres also the whole “Don’t fuck with cats” documentary which is all about internet sleuths assisting the police with their search for Luka Magnotta!!
In Gabby Petito case they were direct witnesses that visited Teton, not some tiktokers and sleuths from another continent. Here it is cautioned to not speculate as happened unfortunately in Summer Wells case - there's one sad case totally ruined by internet sleuths and conspiract theorists like TBI said.
We’re not allowed to think now, not allowed to speak, his past isn’t relevant, but if you know anything get in touch, even after you’ve been called a conspiracy theorist. Who do they think they are!
They are the mainstream media. Pretty much every so called expert they bring on, either says something that everybody knows anyway, or they say something completely ridiculous. The last time this woman was on Talk TV, she proposed a theory that is way more ridiculous than pretty much anything i've seen on social media
I'm sorry but it makes me quite angry when these so called experts keep telling people to stop making assumptions or giving opinions on social media! that's what social media is for, it enables people to discuss current events and talk about things especially things that seem odd such as this young man's disappearance, you shouldn't be trying to put a gagging order on the general public
Yes so sad he was present to a young man getting attacked. Who attacked an old lady . Burgled houses whilst ppl were in bed . Drunk driven and nearly took another car off the road at 70 in a 30 . Very sad .
As victim said... shut up and stop bringing up his traumatic experience. Shall pple sit you in a room and put on a broken record about your past and things you done aswell as your traumatic experiences?
Drunk, on drugs, no phone battery, no water, no money, going off with strangers….wow every thing I was taught not to do when I was 5 years old at primary school…..I bet this guy did well in his exams.
And phoned pinged half a mile North of Masca village which is where villa is. He rang from bar in village or villa location after he spoke to landlady twice after 8pm. She spotted him half a mile up 20 mins later as she said she was going home. Was home the villa which she shares with her partner. Lady in business next to villa said she never saw the lad.
@@FriendlyHomie you sound clever too 🤣🤣🤣. I changed my clothes everyday, when was the last time he changed his clothes, I’ll look in to my wardrobes today to pick out what I want to wear…..not sure he will be though hahaha, you a dummy too.
Ah, ex Northumbria Police Chief Constable Mrs Sue Sim, who retired weeks after the Police and Crime Commissioner launched a probe into misconduct claims, more neck than Geoffrey the Giraffe 👍
This woman was laughing and joking with residents who were terrified, meanwhile Raul Moat was circulating Rothbury right under her nose. Not fit to carry the stripes on her shoulder
That guy, just called out the narrative that Jay missed the bus and said he would walk to his hotel as wacky, but thats the story Jays friend gave to polce after he phoned her, but when the public thought it was odd, its a wacky conspiracy, I personally believe the lad just wandered of the wrong way because he was too intoxicated, but it annoys me that it one rule for them and one for another when it comes to an opinion or observation.
@@mattdoliver1984 I thought woke people were dumb, because they had to dumb down the exams so that woke people could pass them, but I see you re a brilliant mathematician.
On the contrary, his history is very relevant to this missing boy. Walking away with two men who he didn’t know and met at the Rave. Selling drugs and owed money. Look for the two men and check to house where they were staying.
The fact that this lost hiker was, by chance, found, demonstrates that the Spanish search team is very efficient and thorough. I am now wondering if Jay is there at all.
Nonsense, you don't know sh*t. Many people are NEVER found even by experienced searchers, and sometimes even YEARS later somebody stumbles by accident on their remains.. !!
I lived in the Canary Islands for 15 years, though never in Tenerife. But it strikes me as bizarre that someone could completely disappear in the Mountains of Tenerife. I've never heard of this before unless it was a murder and someone deliberately hid the body.
Whats more sickening is my daughter has just shown me her tick tok an people are making fake accounts pretending to be him saying I'm fine guys!. 😡 absolutely horrible thing to do ! And could be damaging to finding him.
How are people speculating on social media going to make one iota of difference to the search and investigation? It won't hamper anything. In effect she is saying believe everything that you are told through your television screen and never think for yourself or express an opinion.
I find her quite condescending her opinion is that anyone who has their own thoughts on this weird situation are totally unacceptable, how rude wouldn’t these so called pompous experts have egg on their face if it came to pass some of the Joe Public did get things right.
I suppose that everything must be evidence based for the police. But yes, they need to ignore public speculation, and if it's so unacceptable, then social media access for public comment needs to be closed so it can't happen. Speculation is tough on the family.
Every comment, or speculation, isn't a 'conspiracy theory'. Reporters who keep calling every comment a conspiracy theory just look ignorant. Jay's background is actually relevant to who he might be hanging out with, or where he might be found. Saying he did something 'when he was young' as if it was 20yrs ago, also shows ignorance. It was only 2yrs ago, the boys were very disrespectful in court, and it's quite possible he's still involved with drugs, and such 'gangs'.
In part, his criminal past is what drives the interest in this case. People delight in the possibility of a story of gangsters and drug deals. If he was a librarian from Hull, I'm sure no one would care at all
we know why he went 40 minutes away after a rave - for drugs or girls. ask the guys who he went with. i'm sure he didnt go for a cup of tea. He may have got more pills and started doing them, not a good combo.
He was 16 when the offences happened in 2021. Seems to have been more like a street fight than a planned attack. I know it doesn't excuse the behaviour, but he was young and Tom isn't exactly a model citizen. Jay doesn't seem to have done anything bad since, and his current boss seems happy with his behaviour. These stories about him dealing at the resort have no evidence, So maybe people should give him the benefit of the doubt until the facts of this case come out, if they ever do.
@@RoughWalkers You seem to know all the facts don't ya? Nice of you to stand up for a scumbag that steals from vulnerable people and races stolen cars at 70mph in the city centre including going the wrong way down some roads. Wonder why the judge let Jay and his friends off with light sentences? Maybe he thought they were doing society a favour?
Freedom of speech people are allowed to express their opinions how can anyone go this long without water its obvious he would not survive and he must be bloody stupid if what people are saving that he was going to walk Why didn't the men he was with give him a lift back?
Conspiracy theory- he heard about Michael Mosley. Decided this was a money spinner. Pretends to go missing. Family sets up a funding website. Not my own theory-but if he turns up fit and well it will get some traction.
For all the armchair detectives in the comments talking about free speech that they think doesn't hurt the investigation: You need to start caring about the young man's family as well. How would you feel if one of your loved ones went missing (which is horrible in itself) and people started spreading conspiracy theories and other things about his past that may or may not be true?
Have you watched interviews with his mother? Something is not genuine there and we've seen it before with these high profile missing person cases. Something will surface at some point
@@maceymitchell2177 We've also seen lots of parents of missing and murdered people get blamed and then be proven innocent. Which only added to the harm, grief, and trauma the families experienced. People can have different reactions to traumatic events and just because you would not react in a specific way doesn't mean other people wouldn't.
TalkTv you have switched from main stream to have a voice for the people, why go against the people when a story like this breaks? Why not embrace it and work together on it? Or are you thinking you are the gurus of reporting and not speculation and we the people have no voice or opinion and we are all gossip mongers with no creds? When will this stop!? If you really thought "Arm chair" detectives have no place then why even keep your comment section open? You get the views/make money from it all....open yourselves up ffs and do what you set out to do and give a voice for all of us and stop crying out "Conspiracy" its getting tiresome.
Well I’m still not sure what to believe on that matter some say he cut his leg on one . Some say he pricked his foot and that’s the journalists commenting.
Of course his criminal past is relevant to the investigation. Her statement about how 'an awful lot of people on the island would have had such [criminal] past' is quite funny 😂 - no, not many.
why did you put a subliminal image in at 6:54 of a protester with a restore nature shirt on and a channel 4 watermark ? watch the right hand side of your screen blink and you will miss it.
He can be anywhere, at this point. He could have tumbled into a deep crevice. The locals know not to walk around there. Only hikers attempt that terrain, and they have a guide with them. What possessed Jay to wonder in that is unbelievable. I think he may have gotten hit by a car, and thrown over. If that is the case, I hope someone comes forward. It could have been an accident they're not even aware of.
Exactly. Experienced hikers know their routes and which areas to avoid. Not to mention NO ONE should venture into it without a backpack with some tools and obviously water. It gets very hot during the day and it's easy to get dehydrated. Also, no hiking after a night out drinking. Alcohol dehydrates and before you know it you will be disoriented in the mountain, which may be deadly.
Why would anyone be embarressed to say they saw him? And no anything at all is not helpful. They can actually hinder things immensely. Thats why they should be on social media not being rang into police for any old bit of information that might be helfpul or might actually be a hinderence.
I know the family say they are not being communicated with but in reality what can they tell the family when they havent found him, only that they are still searching.
Some thing is seriously not right with all this. How can a person just disappear. I don't believe he has headed into the mountains why would he???... Why would he go off with two random people. None of it makes any sense.
Especially as his stepfather made the comment very earlier that he won’t even walk to the local shops without getting a lift makes no sense at all he would knowingly set of walking that distance.
The poor lad has died up in the mountains there no way he still alive after over a week eith no contact with him people need to be careful going walking in places that you dont know eapacaily mountains in a foreign hit country
She's an idiot. She left weeks after the police shot Roual Moat (Northumbria Police) because she was useless. TALK news has really shown themselves up having her on. What a laugh 😂😂🤣
People saying ‘it’s a conspiracy’ or ‘it’s unrealistic’ It might be in your world. Him selling drugs i Tenerife, stealing an expensive watch and getting kidnapped, is not unrealistic at all it’s pretty normal out here. Masca isn’t as remote as you think where he was there is people, houses and things around. He would not of wandered the wrong way into the remote part. No chance.
The hiker who was found was in California in Redwoods Creek. Different continent. Another theory not a conspiracy theory is the lad simply overdosed after a good night out or wandered off under the influence and became more dehydrated and lost.
Dear lord , can you push the agenda any further ? Speculation ,gossip,finger pointing is as old as the hills . Just look back to Jack the Ripper. Give it a rest . We are entitled to our thoughts without your snide remarks . Don’t appreciate your patronising tones .
Peoples are aloud speaking on internet about case your allowed go down conspiracy if they want they shouldn’t use internet abuse the families there difference
Says it himself. It doesnt make sense that somebody would choose to hike for 10 hours, in extreme heat, across rugged terrain, tired and dehydrated, with no phone, probably hung over, when there is a bus in a couple hours. It's possible, people do occasionally do stupid things, but when something is so stupid, you have to expect others to make assumtions that better explain the situation.
Well if someone ls smashed on drugs and tripping out they're not going to make sensible decisions the repoters an absolute goon to not to take that into consideration
@@TrevTheTyrant When you're on drugs you can also become overcome with paranoia and the urge to move / run / 'escape'. In that state, a 2 hour wait for a bus is unthinkable. You'd rather just 'get moving'
@amo2464 yea I know that's my point he wouldn't of being thinking rationally so him wondering off isn't that surprising like i said the reporter in the vid is a goon and idiot to say that cos ppl on drugs don't make wise decisions you should be replying to the other guys comment after my original he doesn't know what he's on about
His "friend" should be held accountable for his death!!! She knew he had an 11 hour walk and little water and 1% phone battery!!! Why didn't she call the police straight away??
@@harryhalloumi295 if I was your friend and you called me saying your an 11 hour walk away in a hot country with little water I'd call the police immediately and inform them where you was so you are safe, not wait for a few days then call them.
I'm not saying there isn't something off about Lucy, but you're saying "why didnt she call the police straight away" and then other people are saying she dodgy for calling the police not long after she spoke to Jay. People need to make up their minds
They need to talk to the 2 men .if hes been bad earlier with gangs how do they not know these 2vmen were out there to get him .his parents must be so proud of his past .something not right here
So YOUR theory is that his history isn't relevant? I would say his previous erratic and violent behaviour is relevant, considering he disappeared with two men and left his only "friend".
the kid with machete in his head has been to jail numerous times, robbing old people, car theft resulting in 70mph cop chase, drugs, violence and more. Search tom hilton accrington, court reports/documents and media articles. Also guy with machete had surname Armstrong, Jay didn't have it. But with that being said, I'm in NO WAY condoning violence whatsoever, merely stating 2 sides to every story. I'm a mum to 19yr old & 16yr old boys, thankfully they are good boys, but even IF they were in trouble or had been , they are still my kids, and loved by me & family, so I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I can't help but think we aren't being told the whole story, to be honest I'm not even believing the drug mule story completely, as anyone can type anything on social media, and IF he'd been taken by drug dealers, then witnesses wouldn't of seen him walking to try & get back. He'd still be hidden somewhere. Either way, sinister, or sincere error & misjudgement, if it's not a scam, it's still sad. *** Sorry for essay by the way, I didn't realise how much I'd typed.
I want to know what the two guys that took him to their air b&b have to say, obviously they know why he went with them and why they didn’t give him a lift back ?
If that were my child, I would do anything in my power to find him. Yes, Jay has a criminal past, but it's still Debbie's "child". She loves him with all her heart no matter his shortcomings. She's a mother always, and wants her baby home. Let's try to put his past behind us, and recognize that he's someone's child, and he is loved and missed.
Mock all you want but it was tik tokers and social media sleuths that helped solve the Gabby Petito case back in 2021. They literally assisted the police so much and actually found the location of Gabby's vehicle which ultimately led the police in the right direction to find her body.
Also, his violent and criminal history is indeed relevant as it indicates what sort of individual he is and who he might associate himself with.
I’ve said the same thing.
Theres also the whole “Don’t fuck with cats” documentary which is all about internet sleuths assisting the police with their search for Luka Magnotta!!
In Gabby Petito case they were direct witnesses that visited Teton, not some tiktokers and sleuths from another continent. Here it is cautioned to not speculate as happened unfortunately in Summer Wells case - there's one sad case totally ruined by internet sleuths and conspiract theorists like TBI said.
Well said Hun, I don't think I could have said it better myself 😊
@@Eli97-t8vI was just saying the same thing to my partner
We’re not allowed to think now, not allowed to speak, his past isn’t relevant, but if you know anything get in touch, even after you’ve been called a conspiracy theorist. Who do they think they are!
Not conspiracy theorists!
Lol at the lady
They are the mainstream media. Pretty much every so called expert they bring on, either says something that everybody knows anyway, or they say something completely ridiculous. The last time this woman was on Talk TV, she proposed a theory that is way more ridiculous than pretty much anything i've seen on social media
You can think what you like but unless you know facts or have any evidence, keep you thoughts to yourself. Simple.
@@80sKitty Shut up.
These news reporters are so out of touch with reality its shocking
As are people like this woman. So many people love being told what to do lately, especially by idiots.
Spanish police have deployed phillip schofield. After the sniffer dogs fail to sniff out the teenage boy
Gordon will go-far.
That is funny!
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Nice original comment. Seen that before. 😑😒
I'm sorry but it makes me quite angry when these so called experts keep telling people to stop making assumptions or giving opinions on social media! that's what social media is for, it enables people to discuss current events and talk about things especially things that seem odd such as this young man's disappearance, you shouldn't be trying to put a gagging order on the general public
Orrrr you could get a life and meet people in the real world?
@@Zagreus_07haha, you can do both, you’re here aren’t you?
Infantile comment!!
Its called gossiping love not helping...
Can we be friends please?
We've learned since March 2020 that todays conspiracy is 6 months times reality.
Exactly
100% 👍👍
Exactly.
Boom
The fresh dogs they've bought in today are cadaver dogs, which implies they now believe their looking for a body.
Unfortunately it is right.
It not a search and find anymore it’s a recovery of remains now 😢
@@garbancitolentejas486 fortunately, the blokes a fucking crook anyways.
Makes sense considering he's a person.
How do you know that?
‘A bit of a past’ is slightly different to attacking somebody with a machete…
Yes so sad he was present to a young man getting attacked. Who attacked an old lady . Burgled houses whilst ppl were in bed . Drunk driven and nearly took another car off the road at 70 in a 30 . Very sad .
But what's that gotta do with anything? Even the lad he attacked has come out and said stop making it about him and get Jay home.
As victim said... shut up and stop bringing up his traumatic experience. Shall pple sit you in a room and put on a broken record about your past and things you done aswell as your traumatic experiences?
Drunk, on drugs, no phone battery, no water, no money, going off with strangers….wow every thing I was taught not to do when I was 5 years old at primary school…..I bet this guy did well in his exams.
Who needs to do good in their exams?
I did good in mine and I work a just above minimum wage job, while Jay Slater wears a £10k outfit.
No money?? But he went and bought some cigarettes but no water... None of this tallys up... Lucy is not telling truths...
And phoned pinged half a mile North of Masca village which is where villa is. He rang from bar in village or villa location after he spoke to landlady twice after 8pm. She spotted him half a mile up 20 mins later as she said she was going home. Was home the villa which she shares with her partner.
Lady in business next to villa said she never saw the lad.
Probably lived more of a life than you ever have though!
@@FriendlyHomie you sound clever too 🤣🤣🤣.
I changed my clothes everyday, when was the last time he changed his clothes, I’ll look in to my wardrobes today to pick out what I want to wear…..not sure he will be though hahaha, you a dummy too.
How can they say his history is irrelevant? He helped attack someone with machetes and axe’s. Both idiots.
He's also acting as if those things happened decades ago when he was a 'youngster'. It happened 18 months ago
Stupidly is infectious lately. Especially by people like these two on this show.
As the attacked victim said .... shut up about it , and it's not relevant and he wants him found....
Yep. Looks like it's a case of what goes around comes around for this guy! Shouldn't be wasting so much resources on him
So it makes its ok? @amo2464
Ah, ex Northumbria Police Chief Constable Mrs Sue Sim, who retired weeks after the Police and Crime Commissioner launched a probe into misconduct claims, more neck than Geoffrey the Giraffe 👍
This woman was laughing and joking with residents who were terrified, meanwhile Raul Moat was circulating Rothbury right under her nose. Not fit to carry the stripes on her shoulder
ACAB 1312
These two people are clowns. Ffs your allowed to have your own thoughts. It's a strange case and most people can see this.
Exactly
That guy, just called out the narrative that Jay missed the bus and said he would walk to his hotel as wacky, but thats the story Jays friend gave to polce after he phoned her, but when the public thought it was odd, its a wacky conspiracy, I personally believe the lad just wandered of the wrong way because he was too intoxicated, but it annoys me that it one rule for them and one for another when it comes to an opinion or observation.
It's what the media do. They did the same with the pandemic.
Two days is one thing, eight days is another. It is impossible for anyone to survive for eight days in hot climate without water.
He wasn't there in the first place
Two days is two things, Eight days are eight
@@mattdoliver1984 I thought woke people were dumb, because they had to dumb down the exams so that woke people could pass them, but I see you re a brilliant mathematician.
@@bernardedwards8461 I'm not woke, just really on the ball 🤣
Praying he is found. Love and healing to the family. xx
Morons like you probably donated to the go fund me jokes on you hahaha
On the contrary, his history is very relevant to this missing boy. Walking away with two men who he didn’t know and met at the Rave. Selling drugs and owed money. Look for the two men and check to house where they were staying.
They've been questioned and was meant to leave the island Monday, but didn't leave til Wednesday according to the press !?!?
They have there bk in the UK so
Them two men seem like the most trustworthy people so far, and that's not saying much given how weird that Lucy and Jays mum is.
Where did u hear he owed money
All lies to picture him in a bad manner!
A young man goes off to a Villa with 2 men after a drug fuelled party and then vanishes.......................... RIP Jay Slater.
How dare people have an opinion. Only the MMS is entitled to discuss this. People must comply.
MMS?
@@auds4351 i assume msm.... mainstream media
It's absolute bollox. They would have found him by now, based on all of the circumstances. We all know there is another side to the story
The fact that this lost hiker was, by chance, found, demonstrates that the Spanish search team is very efficient and thorough. I am now wondering if Jay is there at all.
I doubt it ,another man has just been found & was very lucky because he didn’t know his way out.
Nonsense, you don't know sh*t. Many people are NEVER found even by experienced searchers, and sometimes even YEARS later somebody stumbles by accident on their remains.. !!
How long did it take to find Dr. Mosley? And that was a tiny area compared to this and much less rugged
I lived in the Canary Islands for 15 years, though never in Tenerife. But it strikes me as bizarre that someone could completely disappear in the Mountains of Tenerife. I've never heard of this before unless it was a murder and someone deliberately hid the body.
Whats more sickening is my daughter has just shown me her tick tok an people are making fake accounts pretending to be him saying I'm fine guys!. 😡 absolutely horrible thing to do ! And could be damaging to finding him.
😂 I’m fine guys
Some people are hilarious 😂
How old is your daughter?
@@Beyondfear-freedom 43.
Very funny though you must admit 😅
@@Beyondfear-freedompeeddoo 😅
People don't understand how stupid they sound when they say conspiracy theories/theorists
They basically mean people with logic, reason and an honest opinion.
yeah complete losers call people those names
@@ninjabobbins7283 you are black
@@Bean9211 I'm surprised it's not a hate crime 🤣
You do know who termed conspiracy theory and why of course ?
How are people speculating on social media going to make one iota of difference to the search and investigation? It won't hamper anything. In effect she is saying believe everything that you are told through your television screen and never think for yourself or express an opinion.
I find her quite condescending her opinion is that anyone who has their own thoughts on this weird situation are totally unacceptable, how rude wouldn’t these so called pompous experts have egg on their face if it came to pass some of the Joe Public did get things right.
I guess out of respect for the family
I suppose that everything must be evidence based for the police. But yes, they need to ignore public speculation, and if it's so unacceptable, then social media access for public comment needs to be closed so it can't happen. Speculation is tough on the family.
These tv people are the only ones that are allowed to discuss it .and get paid to .
So much for free speech eh?
Please don't talk about it
Please don't discuss it
Ha way man...
I think it is trolling and vile malicious Neanderthals making up falsehoods.
Sniffing and dogs have caused this lad enough hassle...leave him be.
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😮😅😅😅😊
😂😂😂😂
He started trouble with the wrong people and ended up six feet under
It's not a "conspiracy" to question a story that is unbelievable and is not leading to any conclusions. When things don't add up people will say so
I'm just questioning why no one let him charge the phone...
His baclground makes ALL the difference and is MORE THAN RELEVENT
Every comment, or speculation, isn't a 'conspiracy theory'.
Reporters who keep calling every comment a conspiracy theory just look ignorant.
Jay's background is actually relevant to who he might be hanging out with, or where he might be found.
Saying he did something 'when he was young' as if it was 20yrs ago, also shows ignorance. It was only 2yrs ago, the boys were very disrespectful in court, and it's quite possible he's still involved with drugs, and such 'gangs'.
Are they sure that it was him using the phone
Or being forced
Or even that Lucy law story is the truth ?
Surely they'd have checked her phone / WhatsApp message records to show that these calls / messages took place? @@cherylmcdowell5857
@cherylmcdowell5857 something isn't right
What about all the kids missing in this country , why you obsessing about this one ???
In part, his criminal past is what drives the interest in this case. People delight in the possibility of a story of gangsters and drug deals. If he was a librarian from Hull, I'm sure no one would care at all
we know why he went 40 minutes away after a rave - for drugs or girls. ask the guys who he went with. i'm sure he didnt go for a cup of tea. He may have got more pills and started doing them, not a good combo.
Prove it
Touchy
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@@christinequennell5855 You prove him Apparently walking into mountains by himself ya sheep !
Maybe not girls.
He was 16 when the offences happened in 2021. Seems to have been more like a street fight than a planned attack. I know it doesn't excuse the behaviour, but he was young and Tom isn't exactly a model citizen. Jay doesn't seem to have done anything bad since, and his current boss seems happy with his behaviour. These stories about him dealing at the resort have no evidence, So maybe people should give him the benefit of the doubt until the facts of this case come out, if they ever do.
8 on 1 street fight yeah
@@RoughWalkers You seem to know all the facts don't ya? Nice of you to stand up for a scumbag that steals from vulnerable people and races stolen cars at 70mph in the city centre including going the wrong way down some roads. Wonder why the judge let Jay and his friends off with light sentences? Maybe he thought they were doing society a favour?
Would you say that if it was your child who was attacked?
I agree.. a 16 yo boy did something wrong and he is a monster....Jay is not a monster nor a Saint.
@@blackbutterfly8136Do you know why they went after Tom?
Dont start speculating so why have specialist dogs been drafted in and being deployed????
Saying it is as hard for the police not being able to find him as for the family is about the most thoughtless statement possible.
This woman came on the program ro talk about the case or social media???
She’s a waste of space she must be quite cheap to get on
Wouldn't "search" rather than "hunt" be more appropriate wording for the thumbnail?
Freedom of speech people are allowed to express their opinions how can anyone go this long without water its obvious he would not survive and he must be bloody stupid if what people are saving that he was going to walk Why didn't the men he was with give him a lift back?
He's probably in hiding after losing 30k of coke
@@mikeh2006 Don't worry they got the money back, plus some.
A piggy back is more likely.
Conspiracy theory- he heard about Michael Mosley. Decided this was a money spinner. Pretends to go missing. Family sets up a funding website. Not my own theory-but if he turns up fit and well it will get some traction.
I just read that the guy they accidentally found was fine and said he wasn’t lost and didn’t need to be rescued.
For all the armchair detectives in the comments talking about free speech that they think doesn't hurt the investigation: You need to start caring about the young man's family as well. How would you feel if one of your loved ones went missing (which is horrible in itself) and people started spreading conspiracy theories and other things about his past that may or may not be true?
Have you watched interviews with his mother? Something is not genuine there and we've seen it before with these high profile missing person cases. Something will surface at some point
@@maceymitchell2177 We've also seen lots of parents of missing and murdered people get blamed and then be proven innocent. Which only added to the harm, grief, and trauma the families experienced. People can have different reactions to traumatic events and just because you would not react in a specific way doesn't mean other people wouldn't.
@@irenemous9082 Most of them won't be the recipient of £35,000 + though would they ?
What about your own mom doesn't she grieve in different ways or she guilty of things ?@@maceymitchell2177
But the TV news channels are getting paid to do the same thing.
TalkTv you have switched from main stream to have a voice for the people, why go against the people when a story like this breaks? Why not embrace it and work together on it? Or are you thinking you are the gurus of reporting and not speculation and we the people have no voice or opinion and we are all gossip mongers with no creds? When will this stop!? If you really thought "Arm chair" detectives have no place then why even keep your comment section open? You get the views/make money from it all....open yourselves up ffs and do what you set out to do and give a voice for all of us and stop crying out "Conspiracy" its getting tiresome.
The cactus theory was incredible in fairness.
Not at all .. Ive been there ... loads of cactuses
@@ericambler486 yeah, but did you get stuck to one?!
Well I’m still not sure what to believe on that matter some say he cut his leg on one . Some say he pricked his foot and that’s the journalists commenting.
Searching for his body now , you can only go 3 days without water
You never know - maybe he saw 127 hours.
You would survive a day.
Ask Ukrainians.
Azov survived for nearly 90 days , till been lied and treasonous
Depends where you are I believe its all been done for money !!!
@@deanishere7237Totally agree, something isn't right about this
@@AldisoKristian😂😂😂
Of course his criminal past is relevant to the investigation. Her statement about how 'an awful lot of people on the island would have had such [criminal] past' is quite funny 😂 - no, not many.
why did you put a subliminal image in at 6:54 of a protester with a restore nature shirt on and a channel 4 watermark ? watch the right hand side of your screen blink and you will miss it.
Why do you need 30k for the go fund me ? Isn’t 5k enough to fly out and pay for the expenses ?
He can be anywhere, at this point. He could have tumbled into a deep crevice. The locals know not to walk around there. Only hikers attempt that terrain, and they have a guide with them. What possessed Jay to wonder in that is unbelievable. I think he may have gotten hit by a car, and thrown over. If that is the case, I hope someone comes forward. It could have been an accident they're not even aware of.
The vultures would have devoured h by now
Exactly. Experienced hikers know their routes and which areas to avoid. Not to mention NO ONE should venture into it without a backpack with some tools and obviously water. It gets very hot during the day and it's easy to get dehydrated. Also, no hiking after a night out drinking. Alcohol dehydrates and before you know it you will be disoriented in the mountain, which may be deadly.
Why would anyone be embarressed to say they saw him? And no anything at all is not helpful. They can actually hinder things immensely. Thats why they should be on social media not being rang into police for any old bit of information that might be helfpul or might actually be a hinderence.
I know the family say they are not being communicated with but in reality what can they tell the family when they havent found him, only that they are still searching.
I couldn’t agree more prayers he’s found let’s not victim shame Jay Slater .
😂 he wasn't the victim!
@@Beyondfear-freedomno he is now tho
He already shamed himself with his thug behaviour. What goes round comes round.
Some thing is seriously not right with all this. How can a person just disappear. I don't believe he has headed into the mountains why would he???... Why would he go off with two random people. None of it makes any sense.
Obviously
Especially as his stepfather made the comment very earlier that he won’t even walk to the local shops without getting a lift makes no sense at all he would knowingly set of walking that distance.
@@cherylmcdowell5857He might walk off if he were high and arranged to meet someone at next town.
Why would he leave the road?
Don't start speculating"... isn't that the way the world turns?😅
Only just bringing in sniffer dogs according to the news. Baffling.
The poor lad has died up in the mountains there no way he still alive after over a week eith no contact with him people need to be careful going walking in places that you dont know eapacaily mountains in a foreign hit country
This kid has been dead a week, this is open and shut. I know Tenerife well, he is toast.
If the dogs can't find him no one can
He may never be found and that will probably be the case .....
This woman again 🙄🙄 adding absolutely nothing
Yep find it hard to believe she led an investigation on anything 😮😮
@@louisecruz2173 I bet her team meetings and review meetings were riveting lol
She's an idiot. She left weeks after the police shot Roual Moat (Northumbria Police) because she was useless. TALK news has really shown themselves up having her on. What a laugh 😂😂🤣
People saying ‘it’s a conspiracy’ or ‘it’s unrealistic’
It might be in your world. Him selling drugs i Tenerife, stealing an expensive watch and getting kidnapped, is not unrealistic at all it’s pretty normal out here. Masca isn’t as remote as you think where he was there is people, houses and things around. He would not of wandered the wrong way into the remote part. No chance.
Not very remote when there's lots of tourists. But it's all relative.
And the Scottish hiker knew what he was doing ...
The hiker who was found was in California in Redwoods Creek. Different continent.
Another theory not a conspiracy theory is the lad simply overdosed after a good night out or wandered off under the influence and became more dehydrated and lost.
Why bring his past up? it is not relevant to the fact that he s missing, just stick to what is relevant
Dear lord , can you push the agenda any further ? Speculation ,gossip,finger pointing is as old as the hills . Just look back to Jack the Ripper. Give it a rest . We are entitled to our thoughts without your snide remarks . Don’t appreciate your patronising tones .
Love how Kev says he don't want to do something and then dose the exact thing he says he didn't want to do 😂
sniffer dogs can't find a corpse in the sea.
hes waiting for the go fund me to reach 100k
Peoples are aloud speaking on internet about case your allowed go down conspiracy if they want they shouldn’t use internet abuse the families there difference
The dogs will smell the drugs
Can smell your feet & armpits too even if you don't agree with me
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Body
@@chrisgibbs1615 dogs will also smell balls and lick it too 🐕
@@chrisgibbs1615 dogs will smell everything... Even you
My finger smells like poop
Here we are, 8 JayS later.....
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She says he had a bit of a past 🥺😯 you dont say.
‘A bit of a past’ 👀 that is some understatement
This poor lad is gone forever
Sceptical!
5:40 is totally believable when you're a young man on gear. You may as well do something
I’m softy to say I think. The poor boy. Is not. Alive. What a tragedy. I’ve been to that island. But very barren. Up high.
Says it himself. It doesnt make sense that somebody would choose to hike for 10 hours, in extreme heat, across rugged terrain, tired and dehydrated, with no phone, probably hung over, when there is a bus in a couple hours. It's possible, people do occasionally do stupid things, but when something is so stupid, you have to expect others to make assumtions that better explain the situation.
Well if someone ls smashed on drugs and tripping out they're not going to make sensible decisions the repoters an absolute goon to not to take that into consideration
@@TrevTheTyrantI've been drunk and drugged and would not have made that choice .
@@TrevTheTyrant When you're on drugs you can also become overcome with paranoia and the urge to move / run / 'escape'. In that state, a 2 hour wait for a bus is unthinkable. You'd rather just 'get moving'
Something isn't right for sure
@amo2464 yea I know that's my point he wouldn't of being thinking rationally so him wondering off isn't that surprising like i said the reporter in the vid is a goon and idiot to say that cos ppl on drugs don't make wise decisions you should be replying to the other guys comment after my original he doesn't know what he's on about
His "friend" should be held accountable for his death!!! She knew he had an 11 hour walk and little water and 1% phone battery!!! Why didn't she call the police straight away??
Perhaps because of everything else that is yet to be revealed 🤔
@@harryhalloumi295 if I was your friend and you called me saying your an 11 hour walk away in a hot country with little water I'd call the police immediately and inform them where you was so you are safe, not wait for a few days then call them.
I'm not saying there isn't something off about Lucy, but you're saying "why didnt she call the police straight away" and then other people are saying she dodgy for calling the police not long after she spoke to Jay. People need to make up their minds
@@Ray-555 I think its batty business
@@LADYBOY1988she called 14 minutes after he last called her.
There is no countryside- it's a wilderness.
Pray for Jay
They need to talk to the 2 men .if hes been bad earlier with gangs how do they not know these 2vmen were out there to get him .his parents must be so proud of his past .something not right here
Lots of conspiracy theories coming from the mum and dad also, they seem to think someone has kidnapped him.
Have they accepted the help of the British Police yet? I remember hearing that they'd turned it down.
So YOUR theory is that his history isn't relevant? I would say his previous erratic and violent behaviour is relevant, considering he disappeared with two men and left his only "friend".
What about the distraught parents of the kid with an axe wound in his head
the kid with machete in his head has been to jail numerous times, robbing old people, car theft resulting in 70mph cop chase, drugs, violence and more. Search tom hilton accrington, court reports/documents and media articles. Also guy with machete had surname Armstrong, Jay didn't have it. But with that being said, I'm in NO WAY condoning violence whatsoever, merely stating 2 sides to every story. I'm a mum to 19yr old & 16yr old boys, thankfully they are good boys, but even IF they were in trouble or had been , they are still my kids, and loved by me & family, so I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I can't help but think we aren't being told the whole story, to be honest I'm not even believing the drug mule story completely, as anyone can type anything on social media, and IF he'd been taken by drug dealers, then witnesses wouldn't of seen him walking to try & get back. He'd still be hidden somewhere. Either way, sinister, or sincere error & misjudgement, if it's not a scam, it's still sad.
*** Sorry for essay by the way, I didn't realise how much I'd typed.
Who are the two British guys
Apparently he's at butlins
So what’s the update Kevin ?
Yes, Gaza had a fishing rod as well as ‘a few cans’ for he and Moaty...Police said he was allowed to be nowhere near the scene.
Hoping he is found soon
Sus his parents want 30k from a gofundme, people are so quick to set them up and ask for ridiculous amounts of money
Safe and effective ... no I'm fine I'm a conspiracy theorist
Y is she allowed to think whats happened but yet the public is not
I want to know what the two guys that took him to their air b&b have to say, obviously they know why he went with them and why they didn’t give him a lift back ?
Worst interview in history
She just keeps repeating herself ….
I don't get it? Family moaning about communication? You got over 30k in gfm, get a fucking translater 😂 also your own private search team 😂
Did they actually get the money? If so that's £uc**d up!
Allegedly gets paid to go on a show to speculate goes on to stand on her high ground telling people not to speculate. 🙄🙄
If that were my child, I would do anything in my power to find him. Yes, Jay has a criminal past, but it's still Debbie's "child". She loves him with all her heart no matter his shortcomings. She's a mother always, and wants her baby home. Let's try to put his past behind us, and recognize that he's someone's child, and he is loved and missed.