Great vid didn’t know they made these. I know I’ll be sideways in a crawl space brazing after a swage and the solder stick will drip from the pipe I’ll be crawling away 😂😂😂
When you heat one side of the joint - will the other size not oxidize before you get to that side of the joint causing a bad joint? (Assuming you put two rings in, one on each side of the joint at a time)
Looks pretty easy, but for ordinary plumbing fittings, I think I'll stick to soldering. My solder joints don't make the pipe look nearly as bad as the Oxy-Acetylene gas without Nitrogen. Plus I wipe my joints immediately after to make them look clean.
@@ethanwasme4307it depends. Some people just can’t braze, solder, let alone weld a bead well at all. Brazing unlike metals can be tricky, but I always loved steel to copper, or brass to copper.
What do you mean by "with out a nitrogen flow"? I know what it is, im just asking for a friend. ;-) . And what would be the result if you did use a "nitrogen flow"?
You want to use a nitrogen flow to prevent soot build up in the lines. Not using a nitrogen flow will cause the soot to build up inside the lines even though you can’t see it, and it will cause issues with the system later down the road if not immediately
Sil-Fos 15 is the preferred alloy for general copper-copper brazing; the phosphorous in the Sil-Fos family serves as a fluxing agent on coper, so no flux is recommended.
“Perfect for brazing joints, when you don’t exactly know how to braze..” I don’t think I’m being unreasonable when saying that it’s probably not a good idea to attempt brazing-at all-if you don’t know how to properly in the first place, let alone attempt to braze a circuit that is supposed to operate under pressures of hundreds of PSI. Brazing temps are far too high and dangerous for someone to just “play” with to attempt to save money on an a/c repair or something. Just my thoughts.
Great vid didn’t know they made these. I know I’ll be sideways in a crawl space brazing after a swage and the solder stick will drip from the pipe I’ll be crawling away 😂😂😂
Amazing!!
Wow very nice product I am going to star using thank again my brother
Great tips 'n shortcuts. Thanks!!
Interesting. I'm an old plumber/pipefitter. I haven't worked the trade since the early 1980s other than stuff around the home.
I love silver solder
Great tips!
Maybe I’m just old fashioned. Or just getting outdated with new innovations. Either way, it’s cool.
I’m wondering what the pressure reading for that is? 500psi? That looks so much easier!
It's cool for professional, thanks
How would you nitrogen purge? What line connects to what?
Looks Good. I would have liked to see it cut apart after. Maybe next vid.
Amazing!!
Have you ever seen brazing done by an induction heater?
Yesir! I’ve looked into it but they’re hard to find for this application and require a ton of voltage so it’s not very practical.
When you heat one side of the joint - will the other size not oxidize before you get to that side of the joint causing a bad joint? (Assuming you put two rings in, one on each side of the joint at a time)
do they have these for soldering pipe? for plumbing
Has the idea been applied to Staybrite No. 8. Seems logical. It would require flux but still seems doable.
I think it would be too soft
Looks pretty easy, but for ordinary plumbing fittings, I think I'll stick to soldering.
My solder joints don't make the pipe look nearly as bad as the Oxy-Acetylene gas without Nitrogen. Plus I wipe my joints immediately after to make them look clean.
Lmfao… so you know how to solder, which is a very basic skill…
An Old Timer taught me to wipe my soldier joints w/ a damp rag while it's still hot. I haven't had a leak in 20 years.
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@@greenidguy9292 brazing isn't that much harder 😂 both are piss easy, let's be honest 😅
@@ethanwasme4307it depends. Some people just can’t braze, solder, let alone weld a bead well at all. Brazing unlike metals can be tricky, but I always loved steel to copper, or brass to copper.
Where to get them
Hi is it a mandate I have to use swaging tool to make any connection or I can use coupler. Also why is staybrite 8 very costly like 80 dollar
It's 8% silver. Look at the price of silver
these are not on your amazon store...
The Sil-Fos 15 is already in the fitting ??? Is this the same as Silver soldier ???
Yesir, this is the same material as silfos rods but in the form of a ring.
These are not new,been around for years,they were a modeled after the old navy brass fittings that came with the solder rings inside the fitting
What do you mean by "with out a nitrogen flow"? I know what it is, im just asking for a friend. ;-) . And what would be the result if you did use a "nitrogen flow"?
You want to use a nitrogen flow to prevent soot build up in the lines. Not using a nitrogen flow will cause the soot to build up inside the lines even though you can’t see it, and it will cause issues with the system later down the road if not immediately
Hello! Can I find this in europe somewhere?
You can find them on eBay. that’s where I found them
Turbo torch your using is air acetylene not oxy/acetylene
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My mistake
@@biggregg5 what ever,you're got spell checked! Did you know he called the torch setup by the wrong name?
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@@petersmart1999 you should accept learning just like the op. We all should learn every day
Where you get it?
I got these off eBay. Just type in silfos rings and you’ll find them there 👍🏼
I tell you some of the armchair pros are going to bust your balls no matter what you do. I think its a slick trick especially in hard to get to areas.
Can these be used to braze copper to the brass fittings on a condenser or just copper to copper?
Yes they can be used at the condenser for sure
Everyone wants to be proficient at braising.
Most DIYers are going to have a propane torch, not oxy-acetylene... so this may be a bit out of reach.
You don’t use flux ?
Sil-Fos 15 is the preferred alloy for general copper-copper brazing; the phosphorous in the Sil-Fos family serves as a fluxing agent on coper, so no flux is recommended.
Exactly what he said 👍🏼 easy peasy
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Thanks I didn’t know that.
@@tunafish3216 no problem…. I’ve had lots of questions learning this trade and still learning.
And no flux need? Nice.
It could be Flux core...like most brazing rods
Correct
“Perfect for brazing joints, when you don’t exactly know how to braze..”
I don’t think I’m being unreasonable when saying that it’s probably not a good idea to attempt brazing-at all-if you don’t know how to properly in the first place, let alone attempt to braze a circuit that is supposed to operate under pressures of hundreds of PSI. Brazing temps are far too high and dangerous for someone to just “play” with to attempt to save money on an a/c repair or something. Just my thoughts.
I would prefer that my tech practices and learns rather than find a way around it!
Don’t looks so good to me you have to burn the sht out of the pipe
Same as using silfos rods 🤷🏻♂️
I hate it!