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Bold of you to assume that Pocahontas being 10 would have stopped John Smith from taking her as a “lover”
Especially in those days.
Oh shit
Her tribe didn't have sex with girls til they were around 16. It was forbidden. Punishment of death. So if John had tried anything, they would have responded violently. Not by giving food to the people who raped the chiefs daughter. They were pretty good people, which is why they helped Jamestown grow. It's one of the main reasons the colony was successful, and the tribe so well documented. There were quite a few other tries to colonize other parts with less peaceful tribes that didn't work out very well for the settlers...
Pedophilia at its worst.
@Weeblackie
Lol, well if you read the comment, you'd see I said, because they were peaceful, and allied to Jamestown, they were documented by the people of Jamestown. There are journals, doctors reports, and some people who went and hung out with them and wrote about it. The reason Pocahontas is so well known is because she was a part of something huge, the first extremely successful colony in the new world. I know all this because I like to read about the stuff. So, I guess that's the simple answer.
"30 Women, sexual favors, i smell a G rated childrens film!"
-some random guy on the internet 2018
*very overpaid hollywood executive
It's a FAMILY PICTURE!
-every Disney executive back in the day
I saw this as he said it, wtf
i smell a Z- adult film
The worst part is the Disney Version depicted Kocoum as being the short-fused aggressive one who attacked John Smith when in reality he was actually a pretty chill guy and John Smith was the perverted jerk.
Kocum best character
While I do like the fictional John Smith, it would have been better if he was just own fictional character with a different name same with everyone in the movie.
Her name wasn't even Pocahontas either, it was Matoaka. And her story is tragic and Disney decided to profit off it.
Actually her name is “Rebecca Rolfe”. After her Baptism (it was also her Baptismal name), she went by “Rebecca” for the rest of her life and married John Rolfe.
Her story is somewhat tragic, but more so interesting exclusively from her perspective, discovering a group of people completely foreign to her as a young teen, saving them from starvation in multiple occasions, saving their Werowance from an execution, falling in love with one of them and then being treated like Royalty in England afterwards before tragically contracting Tuberculosis before returning home to tell her people of England.
Her story is much like a reverse of Mary Rowlandson’s as she instead left Colonists and lived with a Native American tribe instead.
@@aaronlandry3934 Her name was Matoaka. Yes, her and her people did save the colonists from tragedy on multiple occasions but she did not fall in love with one of them. Like you said she was a teen but the man, John Smith, she married to save her people was middle aged.
@@labanredowl17 You very clearly have no idea about anything that you’re attempting to talk about, because firstly, John Smith never had any romantic interest in Pocahontas whatsoever. John Smith regarded her as more of “that helpful daughter of the Chief that saved his life” rather than as anyone he had a romantic interest in. He probably respected and appreciated her kindness and mercy that she showed to the Colonists, especially because it was her kindness that prevented his execution.
Pocahontas was courted by and married John Rolfe, a wealthy tobacco farmer that specifically had to receive Chief Powhatan’s blessing in order for them to court (think dating, but more formal). John Rolfe married Rebecca “Pocahontas” (she had converted by this time, so “Rebecca” is correct) in 1614, making him 29 when they married and she was around 18-17 at the time as well (estimated). There’s definitely an age gap there, but that’s really not very much considering the era.
Actually, Pocahontas is known to have spoken to her father during a war briefly before being married and returned saying that Chief Powhatan valued her “less than old axes, pieces, and guns” and that she chose to remain with the Colonists because she actually felt loved with them. Interestingly, Powhatan Chiefs would treat their daughters like bargaining chips like European Royalty also did, but Powhatans would use them as temporary peace treaties in that the daughter was to go to a neighboring tribe, be married off, give birth and return to her tribe of origin (child was to be raised by tribal elders, not the mother), ending the marriage/peace treaty. So, it’s understandable how she wouldn’t really like being treated like an object like that.
She and John Rolfe were both known to be an especially pious couple and had a child together too. All accounts seem to indicate that they did love each other and from the sounds of it, John Rolfe might have been one of the first people to have truly loved her. Another interesting note here is that Pocahontas got to actually experience being a mother, whereas she never really would have had that privilege back in America.
EDIT: It’s pretty telling how the idiot that thinks John Smith married Pocahontas has twice as many likes as my comments. People don’t know and don’t care to know the actual history
@@aaronlandry3934 she was only 10
@@iwuvpiesgaming9164 - No, she was 17-18 years old when she got married. And John Rolfe, her husband, was 28-29.
John Smith was a crazy fangirl writing a fan fic
Excuse me, as a fangirl, I'm insult. I NEVER use real people in my fic, especially not in the "only 12 year olds starting out self-insert Mary Sue gets the Harem" type of fic.
irondragonmaiden chill they didn’t say all fangirls were crazy
irondragonmaiden, wait you’re an insult? Cool.
@@irondragonmaiden whoa chill it's I joke
@@spooky3409 she's a rare animal called insult
Smith was the first self insert fanfiction writer
@@ragmuffin407 well, at least he isn't too much of a Mary Sue there
@@777Mikos yea i agree
Thot Topic Adam’s just incorrect about John Smith’s edits. They were mostly minor edits that just painted him as more heroic with little other differences, because he had fallen out of public favor at the time.
He never claimed that Pocahontas was an adult or into him. He wrote of her as a girl that was exceptionally kind and friendly towards him and the other Colonists. The made up romantic aspects stem from a play that was written in the late 1800s or early 1900s (I forget which century), not John Smith’s writings (which are very boring and plain, like most Puritanical writings are).
You look like a high skipper.
ghazt master nah, he’s just sleep deprived
Native Americans: minding their own business.
Colonists: Hippity hoppity your kid is my property
Lol
@@undershade1834 i can tell you're white
@@undershade1834 yep you're white
Bro so it's ok to murder rape and kidnap innocent people because you have gun powder further the Europeans copied guns for China
Guys, I think we have a racist in the reply section
Most of the old Disney movies have pretty dark origins, especialy those based on the Grimm´s Tales
In the original "Sleeping Beauty" for example, Aurora wasn´t saved by the prince. After his kiss didn´t broke the spell, he raped her while she slept and got her pregnant. Her children were the ones who gave her a "Kiss of true love" and woke her up, ten years later.
Yes but those were at least all works of fiction to begin with, and not even pretending to be portrayals of real events.
"*SIGH* Most Disney movies weren't based on Grimm fairy tales. When you read the opening credits, very few of their movies were based on the Grimm versions. For example, Disney's Cinderella was inspired by the Charles Perrault's version, their Sleeping Beauty was inspired by Tchaikovsky's ballet, etc.
@@raggedyanimator754 The Grimm tales were still the originals, the fairy tales and folklores they gathered through out europe. The Grimm brothers may not be the ones who came up with them, but they were the ones who gathered them and publicated them, with few to none changes, to a much wider audience.
Also the prince wasn't a prince, he was a king. With a wife, who he cheated on constantly and when Aurora came to his home to show him his children the queen had them killed, mulched and fed them to him in meat pie.
Do you think Adam Conover should ruin fairy tales if he is given the chance to do so ?
John Smith wrote the first fan fiction to date.
Scribbles no its the aincent greeks actually
hahahahaha
amazing
Yaaassss
Speaking of ancient fan fics, wasn't there a Don Quixote fan fiction at one point?
A self-insert fic too...
...so basically he wrote a self-insert fan fiction?
Yes, with a 10-year-old child as the subject of his fantasy.
😭
No and if he did he did not age he up at that time I'm history marring a 10 wasn't uncommen don't judge the past with social standards of today.
Yeah society used to be weird. Edgar Alan Poe who lived in the early 1800s married his 13 years old cousin while he was in his 20s and no-one had a problem with it since it was common
John Smith Stu
"The violent native seeks to crush me with his bear like grip!" Me when someone tries to hug me.
HA! Same man...same
same but the other way around
In actual historical context, Colonists and Powhatans had disputes over trade and hunting treaties and John Smith had shown up to a Powhatan meeting as an Ambassador. Unfortunately, Chief Powhatan had decided to execute him with a club, but was interrupted when Pocahontas placed her head upon his and claimed to have had a dream vision of him saving her. The Tribal Elders advised Chief Powhatan that John Smith must be kept and important if Pocahontas has had a Dream Vision, so he declared John Smith “Werowance” (“Governor” or “Viceroy”) over Jamestown.
See, that’s a bit of a difference from how Adam portrays it here
@@aaronlandry3934 hi, so this is so random. Months after my intial comment, some rando feels the need to "correct" me about a video they CLEARY didn't watch. So have a nice day, and maybe try educating yourself on the barbaric history of the colonization of the Americas.
It's like my brother when he hugs me. He hugs me to the point where I struggle to breathe.
Fun fact, her name wasn't actually Pocahontas, it was Matoaka
Pocahontas was just her nickname
It was probably derived from her tribe's name Powahatan
@@tinsote7176 No, it was her mother's name, which she took to honour her mother, who died giving birth to her.
*Rebecca
@@AhNee Powhatan women did not raise their children. Powhatan women were married only temporarily to a Chief until his child was born. His child was not raised by the mother, but by that tribe’s Elders. The mother was to leave that tribe forever and return to their first tribe to be remarried again (traveling through the wilderness alone and unarmed. Must have been a tough journey). This was apparently done as a “short-term peace treaty” of sorts.
This means that Pocahontas was not raised by and probably never knew her mother, but probably knew her Aunts, Uncles, and Father. Writing also hadn’t been created by Powhatans, so we can’t even speculate on what her name might have been because no records exist sadly
He should be called John Myth.
John smith more like john myth
nice
Ralph Humor disagrees
Josh Jaffri gotem
John S. Myth?
john smith wrote the first ever fanfiction
ShamuStars Check my fortnite montages please help me grow
xD
A self-insert Gary Stu one as well.
XD
They pedo raped Pocahontas.
“The real story of pocahontas is way darker”
Yeah no shit it was a disney movie
@Juni Post I had a stroke reading that
@Juni Post some of the Grimm fairy tales I like better then the Disney version.
Forget the little mermaid live-action adaptation, this is the film they should re-adapt.
Daniel Whyatt If they adapt it correctly, they’ll be called racist for not white shaming enough. If they adapt it incorrectly, that defeats the purpose of readapting.
They might as well just re-release the animated version in theaters, because their live action remakes are all pretty crap anyways
@@machete660 Sleeping Beauty's origin is horrific! Ugh!
I take history, this isn’t in my textbook. Should I sue the school for misinformation?
Not sueing right away, but I think you should bring it up.
Hacher Unfriended its not in most textbooks. The winners tend to write history... but in this age dark truths are creeping out from the silenced corners of the world. Public school is a pathetic misleading system.
Max Minichiello Dark truths aren’t seeking out for Pocahontas, but people like to hijack history to fit their agendas. Rather than being spoken about as an important political figure in the first successful Colony, her story is completely ignored for a fabrication that makes her into a victim that she never was for some anti-white propaganda.
It disgusts me on several levels as a Native and a History-buff
Considering Adam here is misinforming is here too, no
@@aaronlandry3934 you clearly have no idea what I meant
So much for romanticizing history, John Smith. Why the dislikes? It's like people want to use romanticized history as actual history.
adam is exaggerating the details here. it makes for a good story, but this video isn’t historically accurate
@@adamevans6907 Elaborate.
This video gets a thumbs down for being too romanticized. Hopefully the 100k people aren't relying on this video for educational purposes. Like you said "It's like people want to use romanticized history as actual history." This video is evidence of that.
@@MrTC0815 What's romanticised about it? It's a far more accurate portrayal of what really happened.
It's getting dislikes because you and other people are uncomfortable with the reality that is Britain's vile and evil colonial program, and reminds you that you're living on stolen land with a history of genocide.
@@funkyphill4861 Lookup the definition of romanticised and you'll have your answer.
John Smith is a colonial fanfiction writer.
Azure Toroto's Gaming 69th like. HEHEHHEHE-
So the dude basically wrote a fanfic and everyone bought it.
I guess lol
As a Chinese born in Thailand, I would like to apologize for ever invented gun powder and trade it with the British.... 😭
As an English guy, its not your fault
As a native it’s not your fault
It's better than being stabbed by a sword. Could you imagine if we never found gun powder?
As a native american it's not your fault or British fault or anyone fault its ancestor and people from the past
@@WD-0820 you native 2? Wat tribe
They forgot to mention that Pocahontas was quite scholarly and managed to teach herself English while listening to English sailors who had already arrived there, before John Smith. She became an important tool for her tribe and used her to help them barter for different goods. She was also one of probably hundreds of children fathered by the Powhatan.
They also forgot to mention that this is anti-white propaganda--plain and simple. The 1st hand accounts do not match up to this bs narrative.
Jonathan Carver what do you mean British wasn’t all white you know that. Also why did you get this information that this story is anti white propaganda. Pocahontas story was before George Washington. Why would they use a very long old story as propaganda.
Jonathan Carver: How is this piece of history that involves the European colonization of America considered "anti-white propaganda"? The story of Pocahontas does not demonstrate any hatred or prejudice towards white people-not even the English who are specifically referenced in the story. It is important that we acknowledge the mistreatment of Native Americans during colonization because it strongly impacts how America came to be whether we want to accept it or not. It may not match up to the first hand narratives because as mentioned in the video they are bias and the evidence to support those narratives could not be found. I'm Native American myself, and the fact you consider history that does not depict white people or Europeans as "heroic" or" righteous" as "anti-white propaganda" shows how white washed and ignorant our understanding of the history of America had always been.
Jumping Tuna The comments are filled with alt right racist fucks who instead of feeling sorry for what happened are whining that white are portrayed in a bad light. Bigly SAD.
Mia Amber b
Np
So annoying how John smith literally rewrote history with lies smh
Yup.
....just like all history! the story we are taught is written by who is left, not who is right :(
Kenya King it's basically fan fiction
all the whiteys write history in their favor
Neku thank you for the racist comment
Pocahontas being 10 years old
John Smith: Jokes on you, I'm into that shit
Is it me or the voice actor sounds like jerry from Rick and morty
Yeah!
I thought that too!
It is.
The Powhatan chief is also a voice on Rick and Morty (Keith David). Did various voices including the President and Reverse Giraffe.
we were watching fanfiction all along
HOLY MOLLY POLLY MACARONI SWEET BABY FETUS OF MOTHERFRICKER GODAMN GOD SON
I can never watch Pocahontas the same way ever again
More like bastardized fan fiction. Imagine what Disney could do with 50 Shades of Gray.
@@Bladez10 You just painted a bad picture in my head
It makes me wonder what modern time's are like in the Disney version of Pocahontas.
I'm shocked this many ppl are just now finding this out. Especially since people have been screaming about how historically inaccurate this was *since* 95. I mean it's the reason ppl tend to say it was the beginning of the end to the golden era of Disney animation.
Jason Krane Yeah...no. I didn't get that vibe at all. Me thinks doth protest too much. I'm finding that when white people go to playing victim or the race card (the "everyone thinks we're racist because we're white" angle), they tend to actually have some racial hangups. Preconceived notions about people, and/or they live in racially homogenous communities. You know, when they announce on the internet that everyone is going to call them racist on things where no one has brought up race but them. Or the, "now you're going to call me racist because I had an opinion". Well....maybe if your opinion is filled with racially tone deaf rhetoric, and you speak on something you don't know much about, someone may call you out. Oh and here's another one; when white people can't support non-white ppl and their causes without being accused of white guilt or being a liberal. As if they can't have legitimate concern or outrage and it not have to do with them atoning for being white. It's like 21st century equivalent of calling someone an n-word lover (accusing them of white guilt). Fifty years ago white people that stood up for black causes were called just that. This also makes it seem like those with conservative ideals hate non-white people, if the default for sticking up for POC is that they must be liberals. Doesn't help quell the stereotype against conservatives if that is where your mindset goes. I saw your comment on someone else's comment that is similar to what you wrote here.
Jason Krane So you just confirmed everything I said and added the slavery, which you know racial harmony and equality didn't come about right after the Emancipation Proclamation was enacted. So poor whites didn't own slaves, many were not spotless in their racist treatment and supremacist thinking as they fought to keep Jim Crow alive for next 100 years after slavery. You are going off on a tangent and you are clearly the person I am talking about. If it wasn't you, then why are you mad? I clearly don't have a more optimistic viewpoint about the world, as I named all the ways ppl troll and internalize. I just didn’t leave the video thinking it was attacking the white race, but rather the ppl they mentioned by name. What you confuse as white guilt, are really just white people who know it wasn't them, and don't take their frustration of their ancestry (white ppl past) out on anyone. I will point out that you have ppl in power, and you have the rest of society complacent with the status quo because as you said it benefits them. So you can have the arbiters of the atrocity and the bystanders. Abolitionists weren't guilty whites, freedom fighters weren't guilty whites. And ppl today who stand up for minorities are not guilty. You assume that white people are just feigning guilt and aren't doing anything to help ppl not like them. You basically just insulted white ppl, because you think they are incapable of wanting to help ppl who are not like them without feeling terrible about themselves. Also they had the brutality. The bronze age and therefore the beginning of the advancement of our civilization started in the middle east, and we know people being able to fare the seas dates back thousands of years with Polynesian peoples. So other ppl besides white Europeans had the technology and had it first, they for the most part just lacked the supremacy boner that was imperialism.
And you're not a conservative but you just went down the social conservative checklist. Let me guess, libertarian...a.k.a a republican that wants to legalize weed. BTW I didn’t say consevatives, I said ppl with conservative "ideals". So you're right, one doesn't have to be a conservative to have conservative ideals.
Truth be told, I didn't actually call you anything but you showed your hand. I was merely talking about the types of commenters I see.
Jason Krane oh, and affirmative action. That's tired. It has helped women more than people of color. That includes white women. It's about lack of representation. I have seen affirmative action benefit white men. In one of the rare job fields white men are a minority--nursing, I remember white men getting into our nursing program with 2.6 GPA over white women white 3.8 and higher, because at the time nursing was 95% white female, so the profession needed male representation. Still does as only 9% of American nurses are men. I used to call one of my black male classmates a "twofer" because he was filling the quota with his sex and race.
Jason Krane not only that but AA wasn't put in place because ppl were "weak minded", it was because ppl in power were unwilling to let others in to show their talent and value, solely because they didn't believe in it. There are ppl out there who don't believe men should be nurses. Should we hire and give ppl a chance based on an antiquated public belief, or based on an individual who has met state and national requirements to do that job?
Jason Krane I have a question for you if you were alive during the holocaust in your opinion you have no obligation to help them because they have “no benefits to society” (I’m asking IF YOU KNEW) they’re chance in life was taken away but they don’t deserve help cuz they’re not helping us???
Native: we are friendly
John smith: and I took that personally
@@CuckHunt when and why did I make this comment?
A prime example of selfish people trampling on those who were kind enough to help them.
I always tell people the world only keeps getting more "evil" cuz of this.
5 word quote from the movie and literal perfect summary of world history: “These white men are dangerous”
All men were dangerous besides then race or ethnicity. In the 16th century slavery was a normal thing at that point in time.
Perfect way to summarize why so much mainstream Colonial history is absolute garbage. It’s all anti-white nonsense and barely any actual history.
Being Native myself and finding actual Colonial history to be extremely interesting, this bothers me on several levels.
Umm humanity in general is dangerous like every war crime or fucked up thing has happened in each continent
Grim Reaper oof take a walk mate you’re a racist
Grim Reaper 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"I smell a G rated children's film!" 😂👏
ill sub to anyone who subs to me
classyfacemakeup did you eat fruity peddles yet
*gasp* Is College Humor funny again?
Dont forget the X rated version: Poke My Hontis.
dasoulfoodbuffet gw
Chief Powhatan: sry, I can’t give you any more free food.
John smith: sCrEw YoU jErK!
But that was mentally uno reverse
Adam as a raccoon is freakin adorable!!
"I can't believe I tried to hug you." Story of pretty much everyone who encountered Europeans in that era...
Well except for the French
@@msstephanie726 what exception is that
except the natives didn't do anything to fight back until it was too late.
Nah except the dutch
@@disparatebroom7705 the dutch were just as sneaky as the brits. they took advantage of internal fueds and instigated wars. then they would simply take over the losing party. European colonialism was a plague on the world. even when they left, they created new fueds, that are still present to this day.
The story is so much more horrific than THIS VIDEO portrays
Yeah tell me about it. Adam was just being nice about it!
Yeah. They left out the assaults she suffered when she was kidnapped :(
Actually, no it’s not. Actual history that uses actual sources paints a very different picture than whatever Adam purposefully misrepresents.
I know exactly what you’re referring to, however, the book where that misinformation originated from has zero historical backing, actual historical resources outright contradict it, and the only claim of legitimacy it could muster is citing “oral tradition from family members”, meaning that it’s a fabrication because it matches nothing.
UwU Fbi There’s a book that uses fabrication under the guise of “oral tradition”, that didn’t exist before it was written according to anyone else that claims to be a descendant of Pocahontas, that claims that she was raped. Several actual historians have criticized and discredited it as the fabrication that it is.
However, the myth remains prevalent because TH-camrs made videos about the myth, because it’s more shocking. Hence my explanation and immediate discredit of what the original commenter said
I think Adam was trying to focus on main points without making people cringe/cry
Let’s hope Disney isn’t stupid enough to “temake” this one in live action.
funny enough, the film was originally going to be more historically accurate, but the execs changed a lot of it to shape it into a potential Best Picture nominee
Raccoon Adam is best Adam.
JC Fennec true that
Furries
Yeah I like it because it just looks hilarious.
All of the other Adams are SOOOOOOOO SHTUPID, heh heh heh...!
Agreed
30 women and sexual favors I smell a G rated children's film. Brought to you by Disney release date July 2018.
July 23, 1995 ( sequel came out 1998.)
Ayo lol 😂😂😂
This is actually a very non-violent and censored version of the atrocities against the natives.
My thoughts exactly. American history tends to focus on scapegoating a few assholes/extremely murderous events as opposed to accepting the fact that their entire country was created through rape, pillage and slavery (and could not have existed without).
"The British were not very nice"I am sooooo suprised!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The British/English showed their TRUE “COLOR” by the way They treated MEGAN MARKLE.
"I vow to... make the best of the worst possible situation."
"That's the British spirit!"
Hahahahaha, that's almost too perfect.
Just like Douglas Adam's account of how the british eat sandwiches as a form of public atonement and penetance!
That's capitalism for yah.
Always look on the bright side of life.
ill sub to anyone who subs to me
Micah Philson sc cfxdohhj
And when the british returned to america pocahontas's entire tribe was dead from smallpox shoulda added that little detail
Rap Moreno British, returned to America? Wut?
Chardog wdym?
@@isenfyre612 natives lived in america before it was colonized by the british
Oh good! We really were a lovely bunch in the Empire (created in the name of god btw) days. Jacob Rees Mogg and Boris think those days will return after Brexit.... Because, of course that will happen! Lol.
Well, if Jamestown wasn’t found by the British, Adam wouldn’t exist.
As a matter of fact, none of us would exist if various horrible calamities, wars, and genocides were not perpetrated by or impacted our ancestors. Every event in history has a butterfly effect that extends to where we are today.
we wont wana be existed . if it had been like this
I’m surprised they didn’t mention how they made her white through dress, makeup, and changing her name when she was forced to England.
Even IF he missed some details(Like Pocahontas not being her real name, to name one), This is a more accurate account of events than the movie.
While there are many factual parts in the video above and it is certainly more accurate than the disney version there is still an abundant of inaccuracies. Here are the ones I found and I double checked with several online sources like PBS and biography websites of John Smith and Pocahontas:
This is not an accurate or fair depiction of John Smith. Jamestown was on the verge of collapse before John Smith took charge. He established diplomatic ties with the Natives and instituted a "He that will not work, shall not eat" policy to force rich and lazy gentlemen (who were pretty much freeloading) to contribute. He even learned the Native language and could negotiate without a translator. He also recorded a lot of their culture and much of our primary sources regarding Natives and the colony come from him.
The gunpowder accident is being taken out of context to make Smith look like he had no idea what he was doing. It was simply an accident, nothing more. We don't even know the exact cause and I could not find any source that pinned the cause of the accident on Smith lighting his pipe. You also showed him using a match but matches were not invented until 1805.
Also, I'm pretty sure Pocahontas and John Smith had a pretty good (unromantic) relationship, at least in the beginning. She would come to Jamestown to provide food and stopped visiting when she was falsely told the Smith died in the gunpowder explosion. John Smith respected Pocahontas enough to write to the Queen and request that Pocahontas be treated as a royal visitor. While she wasn't really a princess she was perceived as one with the rank of princess being the closest and most relatable term the English could conceptualize. John Smith and Pocahontas even met each other during the London trip. Her marriage of John Rolfe was also diplomatic and established peace between the colonist and the settlers. I'm dubious about the last comment regarding the 30 dancing women. I know you listed the source but I could not find anything online supporting this claim. I'm no historian though so I could be wrong about this.
Again, I'm no expert on Smith's life and I'm not writing this comment to defend some of Smith's more reprehensible actions but the depiction of Smith in the cartoon seems very inaccurate. He is made out to be a cruel monster and an inept idiot when he certainly wasn't. He was a very capable explorer and leader. Without him there is a very high chance that Jamestown would have fallen and been forgotten to history like so many other colonies and he did much to elevate the status of Natives in English eyes.
Obi-Wan Kenobi well you did your research good job sir.
Obi-Wan Kenobi finally someone who gets me
So it's supposed to whitewash the colonists crimes of kidnapping a teenager and getting her married to the same people who kidnapped her so that she would be taken to a land she knows nothing about and your saying that since it's a diplomatical decision what happened to her wasn't a crime and violation of human rights not even taking into account the that people were trying to establish peace by trading with a literal child's life and how does people not see something wrong with what happened to that girl and one main point people tend to forget is that she was already married and with child before people decided to trade her off for a peace treaty
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Then how did the matchlock firearms work?
“Pocohauntes was only 10!”
FBI OPEN UP!!!!!
More like "The British Inquisition unhinge your door!"
More like "British military, open up!" (Yes, they had British military back in the Colonial era).
Adam: Pocahontas was only 10
John Smith: She's a 10 all right!
Except there is no evidence they he ever expressed anykind of sexual or romantic attraction to her.
Adam's team also needs to get the FBI called on 'em, because she was still only fourteen when she "chose" to marry Kokoum, the native guy Adam said that she liked. He was over twenty, and they only married because he was a military leader.
Also Ratcliffe, the ''villain'' of the movie was in fact a good person who tried to join together the settlers and the natives and he and 25 other settlers were violently murdered by natives who tricked them into coming to a native trade gathering which was actually an ambush. Ratcliffe was tied to a stake in front of a fire and the native women cut his skin off and threw it in the fire.
Hmm wonder why Adam didn't bring this up
I wonder what happened beforehand?
No wonder John Smith wrote him as evil
@@maverickdarkrath4780 It would mess with his Cis White Man Bad narrative.
To be frank, when you look it up its a bit of a mess of information. Ratcliffe was given a nasty treatment by Disney and his death was horrifying. But considering the times and it being part of the great Anglo-Powhatan war its hard to say how warranted it was.
This is definitely one of the best one of the adam ruins everything. Though the one about disney corrupting the public domain and intellectual property laws can't be beaten.
“you know what i’m going to say it”
*_i dont care that u broke ur elbow_*
Get Senator Cuckahontas (Elizabeth Warren) out of office and elect a real Indian (SHIVA).
How did this get so many likes this wasn't even funny
Don't Read My Profile Picture man i didn’t even think it was that funny either so idek how this got likes
Don't Read My Profile Picture it’s from an old vine
Lorraine is a Potterhead ya i was trying to be a *_QuiRkY ReLaTaBLE TeEn_*
Thank you all sincerely for this. As a Native American I have a funny relationship with the film, being that it was one of few film depictions of native women in leading roles but as an adult I'm more aware then ever of the issues with it. Her story is a sad one that like many has been altered beyond recognition.
What tribe? I I remember the Powathan tribe here in NJ protesting the film.
“I can’t believe I tried to hug you”
Famous last words before disaster
I love how they had to label the last gut OVERPAID Hollywood Exec.
Wait...is this news to anyone? Who still thought Pochahontas was accurate?
Zeb364 Unfortunately the majority of America is poorly educated. Hence The Donald.
Kaef Black you've never sat in a public highschool class. The teacher are salivating to tell you how awful americans were to indians.
Kaef Black Poorly educated.I forgot that immigrants come to our country to get an education.We must be morons.
Another Lost Cause I'm not sure if you're being passive aggressive or just making a statement about immigrants coming to America for an education. Lol. The United States isn't even ranked in the top 10 for education. I'm talking about public education. K-12. Not University.
Kaef Black Ok.
So, you telling me that the story of Pocahontas was popular because a guy made a sexual fanfic about his fantasies?
Cool cool.
Yea indeed. ;P
Basically 😂
what other Asian story been demonized by this
Nour T. Ya except it’s not cool at all.
Still a better love story than 50 shades of grey.
Adam: John Smith accidentally blew himself up with gunpowder and had to return to England to recover.
Me: We told you smoking was bad!
2:45 that ship flies the modern union jack, which wasn't adopted until 1801.
Lmao this is one of the first things Native Americans learn. I only ask that you please learn her name, it was Matoaka. Pocahontas was a slur of sorts used by the white Brits because of John Smith. Matoaka doesn’t deserve to be remembered by a name given to her by a colonizer.
oooh thank you for telling us. I never woulda known that.
didn't she also have an older brother that was murdered by the brits or am I wrong?
Michael Delaney What? Do you have any sources for this? I literally just looked it up and found multiple sources saying that Pocahontas was a name given to her by her tribe when she was a very young child due to her playful nature, with Pocahontas being directly translated to "playful one."
Michael Delaney *_THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET THE DAMN NAME RIGHT!?_*
lots of websites also Stick to John Smith's version of events and on some even say " according to Smith" however if you look at the native American websites it's completely different from John Smith said. In fact Smith didn't even claim any of this until AFTER her death so she couldn't call him liar..... again
I like how he kidnapped her by picking her up and walking away 😂😆
John is the perfect description of a fan fiction writer.
I’ve never learned so much about this topic then an actual history class
John Smith’s Fifty Shades of Pocahontas.
Chrisc0Disc0 30*
*_Aw... The good ol' 1660's..._*
*_When you could write romantic fan fiction about 10 year olds._*
Theoretically, you could go to prison
Except there is no evidence he had anykind of romantic or sexual attraction.
@@CuckHunt I mean......he wrote a fucking book about how he did sooooo yes there is.
My teacher played this during one of her lessons on Pocahontas (right after announcing and asking if people were cool with a single swear because you know how schools are) and so I just want to say...
Thank You!
This has been going on for a while but whenever I watch Adam ruins everything, EVERY TIME I end up getting bricked tf up, and I have no idea why.
Is that the voice of Jerry Smith (Morty's Dad) from Rick and Morty lol? Recognized some other voices too.
Well, saved me from asking lol.
Yeah I was wondering that too
It is! He also voices the Progressive box.
Jasmine Alex and Cryril Figgis from Archer
Which one was Jerry?
Anybody else realize the other voice is Jerry Smith from Rick and Morty
Morgan Landberg omg thank you I literally came into the comments because I couldn’t remember where I heard him from
Harold Talavera ik it took me like 6 minutes to figure it out I just kept replying it and finally it hit me
And Cyril figgis from archer
That's who it is!
And...I believe the womans voice is that of: Rachal McFarland (sp?)
Europeans be like
Guy: What should we name this new world we discovered?
Guy 2: The new world!
Guy: ...
Guy: BRILLIANT!
Indigenous nations: "Actually, it's not new. We were already-
Europeans: *"New! World!"*
I never liked the fact that kocoum died in the movie and now that I know she actually liked him and married him just makes me so mad and the fact that pocahontas felt very little remorse for his death in the movie when he died trying to save her from John Smith who in reality was a jerk, no wonder native americans don't like this movie
Thanks, Adam...it's good somebody in the pop culture tells this realities to the public.
I'm pretty sure 90% of people above the age of 10 understand what really happened.
@@protecriontundrastrategist73 thanks to Disney nope
@@protecriontundrastrategist73 Not really. It's only a minor part of american setteling history, so nothing of it is taught in school and the number of people that is interested in said history is limited. That means, if you don't actively look it up, the Disney movie is the only reference you have.
And of course you would think that it's kind of romantizised to make it a better and more dramatic movie. But no one would even imagine that it's THAT FAR from the truth. It's pop culture and thus pretty influential. One of the reasons that native americans still see a real problem in this movie.
Adam should ruin pop culture.
Will Lyon ... That’s not a bad idea.
99% of comments John Smith writing fan fiction
1% actually about the video
sal draws hoNESTLY
Not only that, some historians say she was raped by a few British men and her husband was killed. I don’t know how some people can be so cruel and disgusting. May her soul rest in peace.
Of course she was raped.
Those men haven't seen a woman since several months or years. They captured her, so they raped this poor soul during the time on the ship.
I'm sure that gang rape would've been prevented by John Rolfe himself.
Rolfe?! No, he died of smallpox in Virginia after returning there.
“Pocahontas was only 10 years old”
Chief Christahansen: would you mind explaining to me what you’re doing here?
But the Fairy God Tree definitely happened!
BvL BlindBags
Yes kiddo, a tree sprout a face to talk to animals, and john Smith never did pot
Mark videogames hahahahaha
That was supposed to be a reference to a native American story
Rome Crosswhite really?! Which one?
BvL BlindBags There was no tree spirit that gives her advice in reality
"30 woman? Sexual favors? I smell a G rated children's film!" 😂😂😂
Never before have I wanted someone to say “Sike!” so bad
"Britishers were not very nice" as an Indian I second that.
As a nother random indian-european I agree
I wish the raccoon was in every video like these
Yes. Just... Yes
It's pretty cute!
Lucas Augusto you know if Adam was a raccoon he would actually more likeable
So he just made his own sexy fan fic, people say technology changed us but we’re still the same pervs we’ve always been
Jeff Peng by "we" are you talking about him as his actions applied to everyone? Generalizing based off one person.
LyricallyLoved YES, we, because you know damn well you have your own secrets and pervesions regardless of how "innocent" you act out to be
Warren West
Everyone have secrets but only few braves can admit that in public
but now we can prove others are pervert so we can shame them XD
Warren West secrets perversions aren't something you can demonize if they're kept SECRET. What he fantasized and made into a falsified story wasn't secret anymore after he made that creepy story up. Learn the difference I guess?
The child pocahontas is so funny
this isn’t entirely accurate. first of all, Pocahontas didn’t convert until after she married john Rolf. second, she lived with Rolf in America for a good while before she went to England. in England she met the king and was treated like royalty. also, before she married Jhon she changed her name to the Christian "Rebecca'. also, its said that John (smith) saw her while she was in England. and she had no problem telling him how much she hated him.
Death and murder just how I remember it
GoldenGun you were there ?
And kidnappping
And rape
GoldenGun and it's still gone 2018 worldwide
And mutilation
I mainly knew all this because I work at the recreation Jamestown fort, but I though Pocahontas was eleven.
She was 10-13 (good luck finding a birth certificate when the Powhatans didn’t even use the Gregorian calendar) when the Colonists first arrived. Her exact age isn’t known as a result, and her body is underneath the St. George Church, so there’s no way of ever knowing.
Im a native american, this makes me salty
I'm white, and same
The truth is actually more complicated than how Adam depicts it here.
Soft bitch
Yea our history is kinda extremely depressing for about 80 percent of it. All we can do is move forward with it.
Sorry
I love how the “Overpaid Hollywood Executive” actually looks a bit like Jeffrey Katzenberg.
Gee, Disney isn't an accurate representation of history? Wow, I would have never guessed.
John Smith was the first creator of
Fan fiction XD
Nope. For that you can go back even farther to classics such as Dante's Inferno and King Arthur. I'm not even kidding.
Zeno's Achilles and the tortoise paradox is older than that.
89Crono John Smith was the first to base it on real events
Ever heard of the Bible?? full of fan fic
Blank Blank Dante's inferno was about real characters. John Smith wasn't the original. Shit, I don't even think Dante was either
1:50 I have no idea how those people lifted those houses with floors when the people where also under it.
And here I was blaming Disney, turns out I should've been blaming Smith.
america roleplayer i mean... keep blaming disney too tho lets be real
I CANT BELIEVE I TRIED TO HUG YOU
What
John smith must never have gotten layed in his college days...
my 8th grade teacher assigned us this video a few days ago… what a fucking king👑
Cinderella, Pinocchio, little mermaid, Pocahontas, Disney has a bad habit of not telling what really happened.
Every kiss begins
with kidnap.
I mean just ask Beast everything worked out for him
What kind of kisses have you had
Mine always start with a whack to the head.
Lol What about Kay???🤣
so basically the animated version is just fanfiction
Yup
L.M.H. Pretty much considering they don't even get fictional stories right.
So you are telling me the lion king is fictional? FML!
Humanless God same
With Disney making all these modern remakes, I think they’re just too friggin terrified to try to fix how dirty they did Pocahontas
Him writing and fantasizing about a ten year old tells me everything I need to know…
Quentin Tarantino should redo the story of Pocahontas.
Instead, Pocahontas's lover is killed by a British antagonist, and then she is kidnapped and taken by boat to Europe. Give her a revenge story where she finds her way back to the new world and kills the man who murdered her husband.
Alec McGrath quentin tarantino, the white guy who probably has hardly any knowledge of native american history and whos addicted to saying and using the n-word in his movies? Nah
ifuckinghate cantaloupe... I get what you mean by him using the N-word constantly in his films... But for the record, I don't think he used the word once in The Inglorious Bastards.
Directors, no matter what movie they do, do an extensive amount of research for their films. Especially period films. The reason why I considered Tarantino for the job is because of his work on Django Unchained and a bit of Kill Bill. Both themes and styles of these films would work for a bad ass Pocahontas revenge story.
CJ Barbour Well that's just innacurate.
Alec McGrath I mean, I guess pictures of him in a hotel room sucking on a tween girl's toes don't *automatically* make him a pedophile, but I'm hard-pressed to think of a good reason for why someone would engage in such behavior if they weren't.
CJ Barbour Well considering she was 23 at the time, I would hardly call her a "tween", hence I wouldn't call it pedophilia either.
It's sick how people changed that poor ladie's life to make them look better. Someone needs to grow this story straight so she can rest in peace.
Fun fact, despite only having one child, Pocahontas has thousands of modern day descendants. It wouldn’t be surprising if Pocahontas was your ancestor.
John Smith literally proved people were writing fan fiction in the 1600s