@@okra3000 Ofc it's gonna look like last year's model, it's all about the product identity, you can't change the design that much without it looking like a Carrera or a Taycan, and in my opinion, if you have to take a look at the name badge in the back of a car to know which model it is, then you've already failed in that aspect as a brand
I will just find out from carwow saying this car is just a heavy inside out facelift. The 4 doors are exactly the same as 2016. When a company marketing using a whole new for a heavily facelift car, generally is going down.
Clearly evolutionary vs revolutionary. Will need to get used to the “Taycanized” rear and that light bar that seems to be common on various other brands. I think the changes beneath the skin are important to keep Panamera the leader in segment in performance. Just very disappointed that the sport turismo will not be continued since I think it is beautiful and more practical. Actually got me in action. To purchase a 2023 sport turismo as the last chance for one.
Aint they releasing tourismo down the line? like in the previous it was introduced like 2 years after initial release? Im thinking to sacrifice the new mega suspention and go for the 4s e hybrid sport toursimo, even slightly used
Wow. Absolutely Stunning. This is my next vehicle. I thought of the Lucid car. But Porsche Panemera has been #1 since my Mercedes Benz. 👌🏾👌🏾Excellent and Bravo workmanship.
tesla is much beter because it has full self driving so you can sleep while car drive itself, also, it can do the accelarion in 2,7 seconds, which is faster then Porsche
I prefer Porsches too for my daily driver because it doesn’t feel as awkward driving it around the city I live near like it is driving a Rolls or even a Bentley. I’ll admit I do love knowing my car costs more than most people’s houses but at the same time I don’t want to get robbed by some idiot looking for a shortcut in life. Plus Porsche is sufficient in attracting gorgeous women - it’s obviously not quite as sure a thing as say a Rolls but it almost is 😂
but when you want sleep dont buy a sport luxury car.... this point is little be crazy.... tesla have a horse pover but is not luxury and absolutly not a sport car with balanced settings like a porsche .... this argument is a joke all electric cars are a best because of power in horse but are not desgned for fast driving and are no setted for sport race ... this cars are normaly daily cars...no emotions @@blob2092
I really wish they would have replicated the concept car's body style (wide body)and not just the color...the interior is state of the art....I hope they truly consider widening the body😢
Great car bur Porsche, your real customers want internal combustion engines, not full EVs or hybrids. Porsche exists because of the flat 6. Stick with it as opposed to batteries containing cobalt mined by children!
Well people have been dying over oil from the beginning and children in factories probably made the clothes you are wearing right now. So don’t turn the blind eye to one thing while calling out the other
@@newjack1982 Perhaps but it seems your condoning the children mining the cobalt? If I factor in things like China is throwing away fields of electric cars and EV bicycles due to an absence of viable recycling methods.. but no worries, maybe in a couple hundred thousand years mankind will be able to mine lithium there. Or Ev batteries failing in Oslo due to the cold? Or the fire risk? Or the price of replacement batteries? Yeah, Porsche, based on those facts, listen to a customer not this guy!
Very unfortunately, except the new front AND rear, which both I find indeed more felicituos, generation 3 does more rather look like a very big facelift than a complete new generation - NOT to be too negative to write, that I hoped for some more visible differences from the side view ! PLEASE let me know AND write all of us down here your own opinion to MY own point of view. THX SO MUCH ! From southwest bavaria in germany. MAH.
They showed the graphics of the concept. Shame they didn't build that car! As a Gen2 owner I'm not convinced enough to want to change mine and I'm surely the absolute target market. Maybe it will grow on me.
@@MrRuv10 Hi, had it for 5 years now from new. In 5 1/2 years its needed a spring on the ash tray lid and a replacement locking mechanism on the charge port flap which was done pretty early as it was a common fault. So yes its been 100% reliable and the absolute best car I've ever owned. Even better than my 992GTS.
I have to say. I had previous model to this and the car was beautiful inside and out. The reason I sold it was because I kept kerbing the wheels which was down to my inept driving ability. The quality of the interior was stunning.
Ever since the hunchback problem was solved, the weakest visual element of the Panamera has been the rear fenders. This is a car in desperate need of a wide body kit. In fact, at this point, it should be table stakes. I mean look at how much more attractive, planted and commanding the Taycan looks because of the wide rear fenders.
@@awiskey10 i like the front a lot, but the rear is a disappointment. It has no shape or any design to it, just a straight line almost, compare that to the previous one, you're saying the new one looks any more innovative or creative? it's just a boring straight looking line almost
Ever since the hunchback problem was solved, the weakest visual element of the Panamera has been the rear fenders. This is a car in desperate need of a wide body kit. In fact, at this point, it should be table stakes. I mean look at how much more attractive, planted and commanding the Taycan looks because of the wide rear fenders.
As a German guy as well, I would say: “Your English is not the yellow from the egg” The moderator has a terrible German accent, even worse than my accent 😂😭
A gear lever at the center console is a must for a sports car, why turn it into a lever behind the steering wheel? It's a pity that BMW and PORSCHE eliminated the traditional gear lever.
Yang saya tidak setuju cuma satu: Ini mobil semi sport tapi mengapa jendela masih menggunakan tulang pintu, semestinya seperti Maserati quatroporte, mercy gt, bmw 8, porsche taycan. Thank you for attention.
There are people who line up to buy latest iPhone... ...and there is another class of people who line up to buy latest Porsche. There is a huge difference between wannabe and rich.
Уже настолько привычным стал шок от той блевоты, которую показывают бмв и мерседес на своих премьерах, что оценка "ну норм, ладно ок" вызывает некий восторг и надежду, что еще не всё потеряно.
Hmmmm I prefer 911 any time any day BUT definitely prefer Taycan over this as I think Taycan has an evolved 911 look whereas this looks like an evolved....dunno
@@simonnuman6840 That’s Hybrid. I'm currently driving a GLE and an EQB. I have three kids, and I'm considering waiting for the Cayenne EV instead of GLE.
It is shameful that Porsche is adopting the same bad things from the competition. The speedometer panel is no longer framed in the dashboard, but simply placed on top. It doesn't get any cheaper than that. The omission of the centre gear lever is a disaster for a sports brand. I have the current model and often use the gear lever for manual gear changes. This Mickey Mouse gear lever next to the steering wheel is a bad joke and has no place in such an expensive car. It may look nicer on the outside, but it's an absolute downgrade on the inside. There will certainly be no new Panamera for me.
It's a step down in many ways. Interior is not driver oriented anymore, it's over digitalized which is completely unnecessary. Car is heavy I'm assuming the real weight will be around 2,2 - 2,4 tons, yes you have an active anti rollbars (PDCC) but it's not helpfull under wet/ice conditions. Overall i like the car's exterior design, those substantial changes are very welcomed and looks modern.
Sorry, i mean no disrespect. But srsly, how on earth did that guy end up on the stage presenting the car? Was it a last minute call to make it in English without him knowing? Almost comically
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Porsche is the only german car maker that are consistently providing better and better designs over the years.
And still has quality and dependability. The others reliability scores have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.
u blind?
Lies. It looks the same as the last model year.
tripping
@@okra3000 Ofc it's gonna look like last year's model, it's all about the product identity, you can't change the design that much without it looking like a Carrera or a Taycan, and in my opinion, if you have to take a look at the name badge in the back of a car to know which model it is, then you've already failed in that aspect as a brand
Porsche, made in Germany 💪🏻
This has to be the natural transition from the 6er…surely! Couldn’t be more delighted!
Wow that movement on corners is amazing!
What a gorgeous looking car..
The best car,even much better then old one
what are you on bruh
@@raiden4695 what are you talking about?
wow, looks exactly the same like previous year. what an achievement.
😂😂😂
Who change the best
Gorgeous just gorgeous
FRONT IS BEAUTIFUL....BACK IS ALMOST THE SAME AS MODEL BEFORE....THEY SHOULD PLAY MORE WITH DESIGN
It's a Porsche
The back is worse dude, it’s just a straight line now instead of having some shape to it
The interior looks so beautiful!!!
Cool! they changed the headlights lol 😅
Beautiful 😮
I will just find out from carwow saying this car is just a heavy inside out facelift. The 4 doors are exactly the same as 2016. When a company marketing using a whole new for a heavily facelift car, generally is going down.
no VW did this with the Golf 6 (Same interior as Golf V), worked out so you just talk bullshit
Always amazing
Two tone color vehicles are my favorite ❤
Just as plain and nice as the last one
This vertical lines in the fron grill reminds of the R35 GTR
on the Turbo, yes
We need more innovation from Porsche these designs are not refined but exhausted
Clearly evolutionary vs revolutionary. Will need to get used to the “Taycanized” rear and that light bar that seems to be common on various other brands. I think the changes beneath the skin are important to keep Panamera the leader in segment in performance. Just very disappointed that the sport turismo will not be continued since I think it is beautiful and more practical. Actually got me in action. To purchase a 2023 sport turismo as the last chance for one.
Aint they releasing tourismo down the line? like in the previous it was introduced like 2 years after initial release? Im thinking to sacrifice the new mega suspention and go for the 4s e hybrid sport toursimo, even slightly used
@@Khoragg there won’t be a ST Version
@@userhessenone1469 Bummer. I think the tourismo version is far more interesting and practical than the sedan.
The active drive, pitch, & tilt controls 👌✨ 9:44 yoo 🤯💨 the new Transporter car 😎
Awesome but why digital only rpm indicator? Displays look super cheap because they are mass produced in china but a analog rpm indicator is quality
Yay😂😂 new Škoda Superb 😂😂
no the superb looks more boxy
Wow. Absolutely Stunning. This is my next vehicle. I thought of the Lucid car. But Porsche Panemera has been #1 since my Mercedes Benz. 👌🏾👌🏾Excellent and Bravo workmanship.
tesla is much beter because it has full self driving so you can sleep while car drive itself, also, it can do the accelarion in 2,7 seconds, which is faster then Porsche
I prefer Porsches too for my daily driver because it doesn’t feel as awkward driving it around the city I live near like it is driving a Rolls or even a Bentley. I’ll admit I do love knowing my car costs more than most people’s houses but at the same time I don’t want to get robbed by some idiot looking for a shortcut in life. Plus Porsche is sufficient in attracting gorgeous women - it’s obviously not quite as sure a thing as say a Rolls but it almost is 😂
@@blob2092 Why would you compare a luxury brand like Porsche to some cheap American sh*t like Tesla lmao
@@roarbahamut9866 Tesla value: $770 Billion
Poorsche value: 38 Billion
i.e., Tesla worth 20 times more
but when you want sleep dont buy a sport luxury car.... this point is little be crazy.... tesla have a horse pover but is not luxury and absolutly not a sport car with balanced settings like a porsche .... this argument is a joke all electric cars are a best because of power in horse but are not desgned for fast driving and are no setted for sport race ... this cars are normaly daily cars...no emotions @@blob2092
I really wish they would have replicated the concept car's body style (wide body)and not just the color...the interior is state of the art....I hope they truly consider widening the body😢
Fantastic ❤
💯Beautiful! I’m excited to see the upcoming Sport Turismo versions. 😎
Was thinking the same but It appears the sport turismo variants were dropped
Not happening because people didn’t buy it enough
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 it's too bad, I guess I'll look at CPO models
Dropped sadly
I have a 2011 Panamera. It might be time to upgrade.
Wanna sell?
before every shift starts i need yall to do at least a 10 min exercise even if its 12 oz curls
Since this week is concrete week. My front office gets 5k a piece to go clothes shopping if each of y'all buy me a new gun for my collection
I personally feel like Porsche should have made an engine version of the taycan, I’m pretty sure myself and thousands others would prefer a gas taycan
Amazing Design ❤ 0:24
Great car bur Porsche, your real customers want internal combustion engines, not full EVs or hybrids. Porsche exists because of the flat 6. Stick with it as opposed to batteries containing cobalt mined by children!
technically they exist because of the Flat 4…
@@userhessenone1469 that is fair, but the flat 6 made them legendary. What I was unable to establish is whether you agree with my point?
Well people have been dying over oil from the beginning and children in factories probably made the clothes you are wearing right now. So don’t turn the blind eye to one thing while calling out the other
@@philc1773 I do, but the Taycan is the only EV i´d buy tbh
@@newjack1982 Perhaps but it seems your condoning the children mining the cobalt?
If I factor in things like China is throwing away fields of electric cars and EV bicycles due to an absence of viable recycling methods.. but no worries, maybe in a couple hundred thousand years mankind will be able to mine lithium there.
Or Ev batteries failing in Oslo due to the cold?
Or the fire risk?
Or the price of replacement batteries?
Yeah, Porsche, based on those facts, listen to a customer not this guy!
They don’t understand we just need a 911 turbo S with 4 doors named as panamera
🎶shittin on a 911🎶
If Panam from Cyberpunk was a car.
One word. Beautiful.
All the dads whose wives wont let them purchase a GT3 RS Rejoice!
No forreal, thanks to you guys for keeping the business running.
Beautiful! ❤
Thank you 👍
This is facelift or new generation?
Technically it's a new generation but on the exterior seems more like a facelift, the interior changed a lot
Very unfortunately, except the new front AND rear, which both I find indeed more felicituos, generation 3 does more rather look like a very big facelift than a complete new generation - NOT to be too negative to write, that I hoped for some more visible differences from the side view !
PLEASE let me know AND write all of us down here your own opinion to MY own point of view.
THX SO MUCH !
From southwest bavaria in germany.
MAH.
@m.a.h.4856 thank you for your information
It's a very big facelift not a fully new generation. Just like the X5 (E70) to the X5 (F15)
@@stormdancer1910Golf 5 to Golf 6 also
I only like the standard version where there isn’t that foul demarcation at the back.
Way too much piano black trim just like previous model. Going to be scratched mess in a few years
Thank god they didn’t slim the shit out of the headlights like all the other companies
Awesome 😍
They showed the graphics of the concept. Shame they didn't build that car! As a Gen2 owner I'm not convinced enough to want to change mine and I'm surely the absolute target market. Maybe it will grow on me.
Has your car been reliable and how long have you owned it?
@@MrRuv10 Hi, had it for 5 years now from new. In 5 1/2 years its needed a spring on the ash tray lid and a replacement locking mechanism on the charge port flap which was done pretty early as it was a common fault. So yes its been 100% reliable and the absolute best car I've ever owned. Even better than my 992GTS.
@@davidowen2859 that’s great to hear and very reassuring. Thanks.
@@MrRuv10 You'd never regret buying a Gen2. I don't know anyone who's had one that doesn't love it and as a Porsche enthusiast, I know a few
People who don’t like new cars can’t usually afford it or drive the previous model😂😂
Bruh where is the wagon design I loved and cherished the most 😿
I have to say. I had previous model to this and the car was beautiful inside and out. The reason I sold it was because I kept kerbing the wheels which was down to my inept driving ability. The quality of the interior was stunning.
You should not be near any performance brands lol
I agree. I have written 3 Porsches off which I purposely left out🤣🤣
@@rus5p1 focus on a luxury car like S class or a luxury focused GT like an LC500
Even the Porsche getting boring, old series wins.
New better then older
Ever since the hunchback problem was solved, the weakest visual element of the Panamera has been the rear fenders. This is a car in desperate need of a wide body kit.
In fact, at this point, it should be table stakes. I mean look at how much more attractive, planted and commanding the Taycan looks because of the wide rear fenders.
I agree the rear design for sure, the new one looks really boring….just a straight line and no shape or design to it, getting really uninspiring imo
You’re crazy if you really think that
@@awiskey10 i like the front a lot, but the rear is a disappointment. It has no shape or any design to it, just a straight line almost, compare that to the previous one, you're saying the new one looks any more innovative or creative? it's just a boring straight looking line almost
Ever since the hunchback problem was solved, the weakest visual element of the Panamera has been the rear fenders. This is a car in desperate need of a wide body kit.
In fact, at this point, it should be table stakes. I mean look at how much more attractive, planted and commanding the Taycan looks because of the wide rear fenders.
that's a good point
i want the 24 panerama version but in a purplish black metalic paint job and chrome window tint
99.900 eurosss
Looks good, but still looks similar to the 971.2 not much has change 🤷🏻♂
Need New body style and new interior, please. Body style similar to the 6year old panamera.
As a German guy as well, I would say: “Your English is not the yellow from the egg”
The moderator has a terrible German accent, even worse than my accent 😂😭
that’s probably some Porsche Official. Should have used Oliver Blume himself
Not bad than the neighbors BMW , mercedes .but the precessor is looking good .😅
It seems like a major facelift rather than an all new model... can someone pls verify?
it is all new
Krasn voziček ... 👍🚙☯🔆♾
who ever made this intro is funny af. wayy to dramatic.
Does it comes with cooled cup holders?
A 2 DOOR PANAMARA WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO THE LINE UP. just make it a little bit smaller like the 8 series bmw..
What's the logic behind buying a panamera over a cayenne?
Ładny ale czekam na wersję sport turismo .
es bien de la terre resteron pour la terre
A gear lever at the center console is a must for a sports car, why turn it into a lever behind the steering wheel? It's a pity that BMW and PORSCHE eliminated the traditional gear lever.
And to think some people criticised the grill on the BMW !!
The criticism was about the „Niere“ (Kidney) but the new 7 is even worse so… And thats a Porsche they always had these Grills since the 2000s
Still waiting for 2 doors Panamera style😊
911?!
Crossover like Lambo 😤🐂💨
It looks good, I don’t really get the hate towards this car. But I also think this is one of the laziest Porsche design efforts in history 😅
Question did Porsche fix the Oval Piston and oil consumption issues… that’s what I wanna know.
Yang saya tidak setuju cuma satu:
Ini mobil semi sport tapi mengapa jendela masih menggunakan tulang pintu, semestinya seperti Maserati quatroporte, mercy gt, bmw 8, porsche taycan. Thank you for attention.
There are people who line up to buy latest iPhone...
...and there is another class of people who line up to buy latest Porsche.
There is a huge difference between wannabe and rich.
Ready to bend nurburgring laptime record on 4doors sedan category
Уже настолько привычным стал шок от той блевоты, которую показывают бмв и мерседес на своих премьерах, что оценка "ну норм, ладно ок" вызывает некий восторг и надежду, что еще не всё потеряно.
So... What's the differens?
조금 아쉽다..ㅠ 타이칸에서
약간 변형시킨 느낌이...뒷 부분도 그렇고
파나메라가 진짜 포르쉐에서 독보적 포지션이라
좀더 멋지게 외관을 만들었으면....
아쉽지만 그래도 이쁨
Hmmmm I prefer 911 any time any day BUT definitely prefer Taycan over this as I think Taycan has an evolved 911 look whereas this looks like an evolved....dunno
But for the exterior colors???? ;-(
The new interior just looks too cheap for me. The headlamps looks nice tho.
Nit a fan of tge piano black all over the interior but love the body the refined even paired back design is beautiful.
Not moved by this car frankly
If I’m gonna show off this lecture, sports car the inside of this car better not be black.
Wow looks the same as the last one fml
Without EV version, I won’t foot the bill
You clearly can’t afford to foot the bill if you dont realise there is an EV version. But you’ll have to figure that out for yourself.
well theres a Hybrid. If you want EV go for Macan or Taycan
@@simonnuman6840 That’s Hybrid. I'm currently driving a GLE and an EQB. I have three kids, and I'm considering waiting for the Cayenne EV instead of GLE.
All this talk to say ‘Hey look we made a bigger taycan with legroom’
thats an ICE not an EV
It is shameful that Porsche is adopting the same bad things from the competition. The speedometer panel is no longer framed in the dashboard, but simply placed on top. It doesn't get any cheaper than that. The omission of the centre gear lever is a disaster for a sports brand. I have the current model and often use the gear lever for manual gear changes. This Mickey Mouse gear lever next to the steering wheel is a bad joke and has no place in such an expensive car. It may look nicer on the outside, but it's an absolute downgrade on the inside. There will certainly be no new Panamera for me.
It's a step down in many ways. Interior is not driver oriented anymore, it's over digitalized which is completely unnecessary. Car is heavy I'm assuming the real weight will be around 2,2 - 2,4 tons, yes you have an active anti rollbars (PDCC) but it's not helpfull under wet/ice conditions. Overall i like the car's exterior design, those substantial changes are very welcomed and looks modern.
これこれ！ さっさく予約したポコ！
❤
wow❤
Kein enthusiastischer Porsche Fan, würde so gelangweilt sprechen wie der Mann, der den Porsche präsentieren soll.
back looks good, front looks bad, too much taycan.
OMG!
😍
porsche , please return 928 😊
The 928, is very boring to me . I am glad it is gone.😂
Booooring! Last model look much better
Does anyone know if Porsche will be producing a Turbo and Turbo S trim level in the 2024 Panamera??
they definitely will be a GTS… And there already is a Turbo (only Hybrid)
Taycan phiên bản chạy xăng ... chắc 5 năm nữa là bỏ hẳn panamera .
Sorry, i mean no disrespect. But srsly, how on earth did that guy end up on the stage presenting the car? Was it a last minute call to make it in English without him knowing? Almost comically
Why have a French guy introducing a German car!
So great! I just uploaded a video of the fastest Porsches!
This has to be a face lift ….. new headlights and tail lights doesn’t make it a new generation
tell that BMW or Ford
New, Where exactly? This is just iPhone 14 Pro Max to iPhone 15 Max type of changes. Nothing to write home about.
Same car for the last 10 years! Not impressive.