Chet Holmgren Gets Real About Victor Wembanyama and Rookie of the Year
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- Our guest on Road Trippin' this week is Chet Holmgren of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Chet was an incredible guest and opened up about so much. In this teaser clip, Chet talks about the Rookie of the Year race between him and Victor Wembanyama of the San Antonio Spurs.
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Why are Chet and Wemby always so much more mature and smarter than the people that interview them?
Because they are really 2 super smart and mature people regardless of age.
Because they arent with a certain culture that has infested the league in 03
Y’all notice that too?
Wemby, tem QI elevado. Ele é o jovem que mais rápido pegou informações do popovich .
Chet, desde sempre ele sabia que estaria na liga se preparou para esse momento ( além dele ter 22 anos)
I love how everybody went like "they really hate each other, they focus on each other during the game, blah blah blah" when they are both super chill, really respect each other and seem pretty friendly to each other (wemby presented his parents to chet, this is not the typical thing enemies who hates each other would do)
I’m a spurs fan but I respect Chet a lot, guys a serious baller and that okc team is even better with him playing. He gave it a hell of a run for the first few months of the season, undeniable that wemby was better from January through til the end of the season. He took a leap that Chet didn’t and again it’s down to situation and roles being played so hats off to Chet man he a real one, looking forwards to the inevitable spurs v okc series down the line starting the next few years when my spurs have some better pieces
We got Stephon castle in the making 🔥 prob start pg next year ngl
@@2ClutchCorey Thank you for one of the only sane comments on this topic. Much respect. You are 100% correct. Wemby is the better overall player but they really were so tight for the first few months. Different skill sets and different situations. Both are a treat to watch and are only going to get better. That’s what’s so crazy. This was their FIRST YEAR as pros. Amazing future for both.
How many more wins you got with cant move benyana?
I’m an okc fan and I agree w everything you said. I’m just glad we got rid of giddey so I don’t have to hear “alien vs predator” jokes anymore lol
wemb is a highlight hooper media owns your brain lol
Why do they act like it was a close thing? it was still unanimous.
Because it's called being courteous
Because it was early on in the season, in terms of pure betting odds.
I know right? They’re trying to milk this thing just for content. They can’t change my mind that Wemby is ROTY.
chet still had a great year and undoubtedly was 2nd
@@scrappy3838 unanimously 2nd in the race. Wemby was miles ahead of him. He cemented that award since December last year.
If Wemby was in Chet's position, OKC would have a championship.
I wouldn’t say that definitively just yet, but you might be right.
No...
Delusional man
Cap
@@akinpounds Maybe not but Wembanyama is still way better. He's more athletic, mobile, better defender, better skill sets. Only thing Chet has got over him is the three point shot. I guarantee Chet wouldn't average Wembanyama's numbers in San Antonio as the first option. Maybe closer to it, but not exactly.
I’m glad Chet is smarter than these fools. They were waiting for him to slip and say something that they could turn into a headline, and he didn’t fall for it. 😂
i would love him to say some shit so wemby will have more motivation lol, i dont doubt wemby's motivation to be better but adding some fuel to it would be fun he has that kind of mentality to be the best player
Agreed. He gave them nothing and called them all 'actors'
Y'all do know who Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye are?, right?
RJ you smoking rocks if you believe Chet would've put up Vic #'s if on SAS 🤣💀
Chet averaged 16 as a 3rd option Wemby averaged 21 as a first option
@@SosaA11 Wemby was also the sole primary offensive player with all the attention on him with his starting PG being Jeremy Sochan for 30 games and Tre Jones for the rest who's nothing more than a good back-up PG. So no, I don't think Chet would have averaged as much as Wemby, let's also not forget defensively Wemby is better than Chet as well. Overall Wemby is just a much better player.
@@SosaA11wemby did that on less than 30 min a game
@@SosaA11 Chet wouldn't average the same or better stats on the Spurs as first option though. That's the point.
@@SosaA11 Wemby was the only one being consistent on the offense so your point makes no sense.
Im a Thunder fan And i Love Chet, i have only good words for him, but Wemby is a diffrent breed, its just something else.
Respect. Chet’s a dog too. Him, Jdub and SGA is a problem. As a spurs fan I hope we can get have that badass of a lineup😂
Wemby is overrated in my eyes. Winning matters
@@henryslatt9041he’s a rookie on a bad team what do you expect. It’s a team game
@@deboss8998 he has one of the top 3 coaches of all time
@@henryslatt9041ok then why was the team in the position to get a top 3 pick? At the end of the day it’s the players playing if the players ass coaching could only matter so much
That summarizes the relationship between players and media perfectly 😂😂😂
Chet: we’re not invested in making it bigger than it is.
Glizzard Jefferson: oh we are
Yeah, they are trying soooo hard to make him let down a hot take that they would be so proud to extract from its context and put on headlines. But the kid is smart and did not fall in the trap.
@@BonnisseurDeLaBath it will always be a cat and mouse game
RJ smokin Doggie shit
I’m deadddd😂😂😂
More like cat poop like in anchorman
Cuh😂😂😂
Simple question is:
Would OKC trade Chet for Wemby? 100% yes
💯
YuP 😂
1000%
Would spurs vise versa? Never
Ong they’ll trade Chet and jdub for Wemby
This is why RJ will never be taken seriously as an analyst, good comedic relief.
I think he understands that; he's got the rizz to go way beyond sports, and towards a Strahan type of gig.
@@tyn6211dude just said rizz to describe an analyst
Yeah wemb is at best porzingis nothing special
He has my respect. Majority of the time has great takes and doesnt take himself too seriously
@@asahno3341 rizz is short for charisma. analysts can have charisma
Chet is awesome, but Wemby is next level. Skill wise, freakish athleticism, defensive monster.
Once he inproves as a shooter which his mechanics suggest he will, he'll be unstoppable
lol 0 more wins for the spurs. Wemb is cheeks. Youll see. When the media cant pump him up anymore
It will still always be a rivalry since Chet was blessed with a great team early and is good enough to hold his own vs Wemby.
@@Shortballa11ehhhh
Wemby destroyed chet every matchup
Every single one
@@210_bk2 Yea bt part of the rivalry will be Chet having a great team behind him. If CHet goes out there puts up 20, 10, 4, and 4 and hits a big shot it will be keep things interesting even if Wembys performances are 33, 12, 5, and 5. Its more the fact they are both Stretch 5s that will be dominant for the forseeable future
@@Shortballa11 not hatin on chet but does he got like 3 rebounds during a game in the playoffs, for a 7 footer i dont know what to say.
Spurs fan here but i respect chet a lot. He’s a baller as well!! This rivalry is good for the league and im looking forward to their matchups!!
Wembys rival isn't chet lol. It could be either ant or cooper flagg
@@tushign3169cooper flag who ain’t even in the nba yet? Nahhhh they will be rivals. Similar skill sets and one got blessed to be put in a good team and the other is a superstar on his own team.
Can’t believe we’re talking about this again,,, but it’s Wemby and it’s not even close son.
Talking about what? 😂
If someone has to say it’s not close, it usually means it’s pretty close.
@@colesmith193it wasn’t close when Chet kept getting bodied by him
@@SmallWRLDS Thunder and Spurs played 3 times and OKC won all 3 by an average score of 26. Get off the pipe.
Facts 😂😂😂
Wemby was literally the focal point of every team’s defensive schemes.. Chet had less pressure in that regard
Wemby ofcourse better, but lets not downplay Chet. Chet's job as a rookie was be efficient inside and out and protect the paint. He did that. Wemby and him are the perfect Stretch 5s.
Don’t try and put them in the same category of ‘stretch 5s’. Wemby will be the first option on a championship team, Chet will be a 2nd option at best. Chet is a great player but to make it seem like they’re even close is ridiculous
@@Wormholtthey’re both coming out of their rookie season; let’s relax.
@@Wormholt Chet will be a first option caliber player pal for sure. The guy is a freak. Wemby will be better but Chet's ceiling is somewhere in the top ten in the league. He also had one of the best rookie seasons we've seen in years it's just not talked about because Wemby had one of the best ever.
@@Wormholt did you completely neglect the first sentence “Wemby Ofcourse is better”. Bt yes they are on the same category. The same way Shaq and Dwight are in the same category. Shaq all time great. Dwight was great for his time. Their skill was power.
Wemby literally should have won defensive player of the year in his first year of his NBA career with ROTY enough said he was robbed of that tho
You can't win DPOY if your team took 60 losses and is the worst of the conference.
@@connorjohn2752defensive PLAYER of the year not defensive team, Wemby was far and away the best defender this year and it wasn’t even close
@@downbadichigo9331 It's basically the defensive MVP trophy, and the MVP will never go to a great player on a losing team because they didn't impact winning which is the most important stat, how many games did they actually win because of their play?
Rewarding a great player on a bad team sets a bad precedent for awards moving forward.
Wemby should NOT be the DPOY. He shouldn't even be in the running honestly.
@@downbadichigo9331 This is the dumbest take lmfao
You can’t win DPOY when your team is ranked 26th in team defense that ain’t how it works
Wemby outshined Chet every time they met on the court.
No he didn’t 😂 their preseason matchup Chet outplayed him, and the first matchup of the regular season neither played good, but San Antonio lost by 40.
@@partywitmarty we’re not talking about the team. We’re talking Chet vs Wemby when they played against each other. That’s it, yes it was neck to neck in the beginning of match ups, but later during the season Wemby played a little better than Chet. But, both are pretty damn similar when it comes to play.
This mfer said preseason 😂
I never seen wemby score on Chet where he didn’t commit an offensive foul. So one layup where he headbutted Chet first
True but Chet still played so great and that helped make the matchups exciting to witness
Very different situations. Both incredible rookie seasons!
It was still unanimous though.
First of all you weren't a rookie, you had a year experience my dude you were not playing as a rookie that changes everything and still WEMBY was better and it wasn't even close, your good Wemby is an alien
Chet's season in most season but Wemby's is rookie of the year
@@raymendez3403What are you trying to say 😂😂 😂
First of all Blake Griffin literally accomplished a unanimous rookie of the year with the same conditions as Chet. And second, Wemby played professionally in France before he came to the NBA.
@@_Kandy933 read again maybe idk lmfao
This whole “Chet wasn’t a rookie” argument is such a stupid waste of time that it’s completely pointless.
RJ smoking crack when he said Chet would have put up Wemby stats had he been on the Spurs 🤦
Facts
Why do you say that? He was only better by 5 points on 5 extra shots per game while Chet had to share the ball with Shai, Josh and J Dub. Are you saying with Chet’s efficiency, he wouldn’t have scored 5 more points on 5 more shots?
@@ErroneousMonk1 playing next to Shai and JDub was the reason Chet could maintain his efficiency. He got way more open looks than Wemby because of gravity of Shai and JDub pulling defenders away. Wemby always gets double/triple team whenever he catches the ball. Chet's scoring would plummet if he's in Wemby shoes.
@@natekong3596 FIVE MORE SHOTS PER GAME TO SCORE FIVE MORE POINTS PER GAME!!!!
@@ErroneousMonk1No you just said it😂. He shared the ball with two people who scored 19 a game last season and someone who scored 30 a game last season. When both of them were out Chet played like dogshit and wasn’t efficient at all. So no I don’t think he would’ve averaged 21.
Chet is good, but Wemby is on another level
🧢
60 losses😂😂
@@mhscchampion14ebudgetok and? Kd lost 62 games in his rookie year.. look where he is today, brain dead take
@@KiarRushingunanimous roty brwt
@@ryleelaking7882 KD is ringless without Curry😂😂😂 and KD never lost against a G league like Wemby in the ASG with 5 turnovers in 11 minutes😂😂😂 Center with the most turnovers of the whole league😂😂😂 Rookie who missed the most 3 points in NBA history😂😂😂😂
If you really believe Holmgren was going to put up HISTORIC numbers and routinely bust off mind-boggling plays that left all-star level opponents staring in disbelief because he was on a WORSE team, you're out of your mind. But RJ is not out of his mind, he's exactly what Holmgren said he was, an actor playing the role of troll-provocateur.
Chet averaged 16/8 with 2 and a half blocks per. Wemby averaged 20/10 with 3 blocks per.
The fact that you’re thinking it’s insane to suggest Chet would average those numbers on a team where he would get more touches, more shot attempts, and more on ball possessions is hilarious.
Yes, RJ is out of his mind for that. Shut up.
@@partywitmartyWemby would get Thunder to the Finals where Chet did not. Wemby would get Timberwolves to the Finals if he were there instead of Gobert. Wemby is better. Stop riding.
@@sinastir7688 never said Chet was the better player, but you realize Wemby would be in Chet’s role right? Limited touches and mostly catch and shoot? He wasn’t a great catch and shoot player either, so his stats would be virtually the same as Chet’s on OKC lol.
OKC went from the 10th seed to the 1 seed and their only major addition was Chet. Give him some respect.
Chet literally had one of the best rookie seasons in nba history, just because it’s not wembey level doesn’t mean it’s not historic and impressive
@@sinastir7688 Your entire position is based on imagining things that didn't actually happen.
NBA is in good hands. Wemby is a generational talent while Chet is someone i think will be top 5 to top 10 too in the near future.
It's unfortunate for Chet, because Wemby has clearly taken a massive leap. He's absolutely great (Chet) and I love his game, but he has the disadvantage of going face-to-face against potentially top5 player all-time. And as someone coming from a college, where he was absolutely dominating, especially with just the height alone, I think he doesn't want this extra smoke. Wemby on the other hand loves it and is motivated by it.
I saw awkwardness in his body language. On logical level he knows Wemby is better. And I can easily relate to Chet - I wouldn't want to compete against Wemby either. No-one would. Guy is preventing people from taking open layups, they're this terrified!
Just making up everything in your head.
Just watch wemby in his second year. It would be mind blowing.
I have him top 5 by year 3
Hell yeah.
As a spurs fan big respect for Chet, great talent great kid
RJ just bc you have them as a guess don't mean you have to ride them. Wembys was clearly better and Chet would not be the same as Wembys in Wembys situation.
It’s funny because Wemby wasn’t “clearly better” until after January. For three months it was definitely close.
And why wouldn’t Chet be the same? There’s quite literally zero argument lmao.
@@partywitmarty Wemby was better than Chet at everything for the whole year except efficiency at the beginning. That’s also because Chet had others create his opportunities and take off pressure. Wemby had one other good player on his team. Chet had 2 stars and a mvp caliber player. There is no argument for Chet other than having a better team. There was no sign of him being able to carry a team. Chet is good but he’s not that good.
@@deadlylightningspirit4295 Chet anchored a top three defense in the nba. OKC jumped from barely in the play-in to top of the conference with him. By February, he had won rookie of the month twice to Wemby’s 1. Their stats were very similar, and Chet had broken multiple rookie records to an OKC franchise that literally had KD and Russ in their rookie years.
You are obviously forgetting how close of a race it was at the start due to recency bias lol. It was definitely a race.
It’s genuinely annoying seeing people discredit Chet’s game and skill set by giving all praise to Shai and JDub. Just disrespectful and ignorant. And JDub isn’t an all star lol.
@@deadlylightningspirit4295 there was no signs of Wemby carrying a team. They literally lost 60 games 😭 carrying a team is winning with little help.
Respectable answer Chet, just do your own thing
Hard disagree with RJ's assessment saying had Chet been in San Antonio's situation his numbers would've been as equally as crazy as Wemby's. Towards the end of the season SGA and Jalen Williams missed some games, with Chet now being the focal point of the Thunder in those games he averaged 13 pts, 7 reb and shot 27% from 3. Meanwhile Wemby is over there facing multiple defenders from opening tip cause he is the number one guy. Wemby was ranked 3rd in most difficult field goal attempts out of the entire NBA out of big men and he still put up mind boggling stats as a 19 yr old rookie
“Towards the end of the season” dude, the stretch of games you were talking about were 3 games after 75 regular season games lmao, that’s not a large enough sample size.
“Chet didn’t play like a star at the beginning of April in the three games without JDub and Shai, so your point falls short” is such an awful argument
@@partywitmarty I should've been more clear, the games I'm referring to was a 7 game stretch (games 72-78) where SGA missed 6 games and J Will missed 4. You thought I was just referencing the games where BOTH SGA and J Will missed simultaneously.
Also, please let me hear your argument that Chet would excel as the number 1 option of a team, I'm already laughing at what you're gonna spew out. No one besides dillusional homers thinks Chet could've done what Wemby did, on a minutes restriction no less
@@Sunking210 y’all gotta learn the difference between JDub and JWill lol it’s been three years. And yes, those are the games I thought you were referring to because that’s what you said in your comment. Without Shai, Chet averaged 16pts/8rbs/2blks in six games. Without JDub, Chet averaged 18.7pts/8.5rbs/2.5blks in 11 games. So I’m confused by your comment where you said he struggled without them if you weren’t referring to them both being out lol.
@@Sunking210 if you think it’s crazy to suggest Chet couldn’t average 4 more points and 2 more rebounds with more shot attempts, more on ball possessions, more touches, AND a higher usage rate…you’re insane.
Chet also wouldn’t have been on a minutes restriction considering he played all 82 with no injury. Wemby’s minutes restriction started due to injury.
But the minutes argument is pointless because even with less minutes, Wemby had the ball more than Chet.
@@partywitmarty My point is that Chet's averages are more of a byproduct of having the luxury to play with 2 undeniably better players in SGA and "JDub" so yes I seriously think Chet wouldn't be putting up better numbers when the entire opposing team's defense is to stop Chet.
Like I said originally out of all the Centers in the NBA last season, Wemby ranked 3rd in shot quality, meaning the majority of his shots were heavily defended. I saw enough OKC games to see how easily Chet can get thrown off when being defended. He would absolutely struggle more being double and triple teamed from the opening tip like Wemby does.
And lastly, I'm not saying that Chet is a bad player cause he's obviously not, but what I am saying is that Wemby is being touted as a generational player for a reason. He creates a lot of his own offense and it just so happens he's one of the league's best on defense on top of that.
Seeing how Wembys had to go through a team that did not pass him the ball to start the season and he battled through that never said anything negative and went out and worked his ass off and out up Wilt number is much more respectable then what Chet had to endure.
No matter how much Wembanyama haters and Thunder bandwagon think, Wembanyama is still way better. He's more athletic, mobile, better defender and better skill sets than Chet. If you think otherwise, then you are either blind or just incredibly biased. Only thing Chet has over Wembanyama is the three pointer and that's mostly because Wembanyama had no true playmaker and supporting casts with him so he had to just take it himself or he'd keep jacking them up when there's no open shots for anyone. If Chet was the one in San Antonio, he wouldn't even average the same numbers or better than Wembanyama.
You wemby stans are something else, without a doubt 😂 possibly will pass Lebrons cult in 10 years. And for the record now, Wemby is better. Two more things:
1. Wemby does not have haters, but there are wemby fan haters, your delusional thinking it’s the world against Wemby when media coverage and jersey sales say otherwise
2. Chet is already being put down in his ROOKIE season by you stans because he isn’t as good as Wemby despite already being phenomenal and possibly have a generational career
@@clutchbrook4820dude we get it, your feelings are hurt because people are saying Wemby’s better. It’s not that serious.
@@clutchbrook4820 Your comment is pointless. Clearly you don't think that because you are a Thunder "fan". I can't even take you seriously when you're a Westbrook fan and your username is "clutchbrook". Imagine thinking Westbrook is clutch.
Great way to let everyone know you didn’t watch Chet last season lol
@@BinnieishereWestbrook has been one of the clutchest players of the last decade by the way lol
Chet is really good, he’s just not Wemby. Chet played like Kristaps kinda
Chet is not kristaps. He better defensively
@@garrettfunke2044 Kristaps was a beat on defense in his younger days. And actually still is. Wemby and Chet are better version of what Porsingis started. The stretch 5 that can protect the paint.
Kristaps is better than chet
Chet was ROTY up until February that’s it 😂 Wemby stats alone won him that award.
Nah, Chet never was, at no point. Wemby sent a message on the road vs KD after 5 games. It was over then
For me Victor was better throughout the season. Except field goal% and team record, he had everything over Chet but numbers were still close till January. Most NBA fans just had a agenda against Victor and was just rooting for the outsider in Chet
@@laiiididiiirat February, Chet had won Rookie of the Month twice to Wemby’s one. So yes, Chet was in front. Stop dickriding for 5 seconds.
@@laiiididiiirChet literally had higher odds of winning than wembey in the early season lol.
Respect to Chet Holmgren from Eastern Europe (Belarus). He and Webmy were the highlight of the ROTY race.
Chet was the favorite for like 2 weeks lol
I know the media is trying to make Chet vs Wemby a thing. I personally love watching those two go at it on the court, but we don't need to make it seem like they hate each other or make them rivals.
RJ kinda felt that way til all star break... Then clicked for wemby 🎆🎇
He was the very last media member to admit wemby is ROY, noone was delusional longer than him 🤣🤣
None of them brought up the fact that Chet had a season NBA training under his belt before his "rookie" year.
That's huge for confidence and physical development in the season.
Wemby vs Chet, round 2. 🤩
first time seeing him off the court but bro's pretty chill
Situation aside. Wemby is just the better ball player. Plain and simple. Like it's not close
That last game when Wemby beat okc ended all the debates. He dominated Chet and showed they not close in comparison
Chet has all star potential. Wemby literally has goat potential
If Victor Wembanyama was on the trash okay-C (Bring back my Seattle SuperSonics) they would be champions right now.
Trash? Champions with Okc? What does that make San Antonio?
@@jeremianderson4861OKC is doing well because they have staff FROM San Antonio. Don't play lmfao 😂 Most successful teams in the recent past have players and/or staff from San Antonio.
I for sure 100% believe that Chet and Victor are the new magic and bird new rivalry I’m definitely excited to watch for the years to come im hyped 💪
Chet won’t be the best player on his team for a while as long as shai is there. Wemby is on another level than Chet. Chet’s teams will be better but as long as they stay healthy Chet won’t touch Wemby
@@cam8868 i see what ur saying but chet or wemby can put muscle on and who ever does it first is gonna be the one who excels
Chet would have won rookie of the year the previous season if he didn't get injured
I used to absolutely hate chet and being on the wemby train, however he seems way more mature than he does in games, and said the things he said beautifully so props to him
I like Chet a lot, he’s nice, but wemby is objectively much better lol
first of, chet wasnt a rookie, he gained a lot of mental experience in his first year, when injured....second, he played with a better team, so it helped him too...wemby defo roy. chet 's take was excellent in that vid
Think about it in reverse, give Wemby a whole year off to observe, get world class treatment and get used to the NBA life, tempo, media etc, even if he isn't playing. Then pit him against a fresh Chet straight into the NBA.
Wemby spent a year playing pro basketball in France while Chet spent a year being wheeled on a scooter. NBA life? NBA media? He did practically no interviews and didn’t travel with the team. What are you talking about 😂
Don't compare the two... He already had his rookie season without getting injured. Wembanyama, he arrived in the United States with the weight of "best prospect since LeBron/best prospect in history" and he will certainly have to spend his entire career with it... He had barely finished his season, the draft , the story with the other Spears and we told him "go show us the so-called best prospect of all time" Not even drafted yet, the specialists said that if he the career of Hakeem Olajuwon, it's a failure. Chet doesn't have these problems.
@@tidus2275 narratives and popularity have nothing to do with anything I said
AFAIK, Chet had recovered to the point that he could have played toward the end of the 2022-2023 season but was held back. He was able to participate in practices including during the period leading up to the next season so he hit the ground running.
@@partywitmartyBeen saying this for way too long. Ignorant peeps just don't want to understand.
I'm so happy for Chet and Wemby because their whole career the spotlight will be on them when they fight against each other. Every saison we will ask "who won this one"? And after both are done we will see who was the better one. Wemby is now leading 1:0 and can score another time in paris, but wait for 2025! I love this competition.
Are you crazy Rj? Chet is great but wemby had to create the majority of his plays, chet has players that creates a ton of things for him
Now imagine Chet is in a situation where he now has the ball in his hands and can do his own thing as opposed to playing offball all the time.
@@partywitmartyDude. Wemby work SGA alone is putting up better numbers. This next season Wemby is going to elevate his game more and I'll laugh at the haters crying and coping 😂
@@sinastir7688 Wemby would be in the same role as Chet, meaning less touches, less shots, less on ball possessions, less usage, etc.
I don’t know why you’re acting like it’s unlikely for Chet to drop 4 more points on a team where he’ll get the ball much more lol
@@partywitmartyWemby would probably be the franchise player at OKC LOL
He was over a whole block shead of second place. 3.6 is wow.
RJ was on something FR...
On facts and unbiased shit
Wemby deserved the title, as well as DPOTY to be fair. But if the conversation becomes about which rookie affected wining more then surely you have to throw Dereck Lively into the conversation. Also, Chet didn’t play competitively the previous year but he did have the benefit of training and being coached at an elite NBA level.
Wemby is a leader,chet is a follower but chet is good.but WEMBY is on a total different levels
So how is Chet a follower and Wemby a leader? What did Wemby lead the spurs to?
@@partywitmartyhe just means wemby is his teams franchise player, while chet isnt (atleast for now)
@@juohan OKC doesn’t have just one franchise player, they’ve got three lol.
@@partywitmarty pretty sure even thunder fans would argue against that. Shai is an mvp caliber who is a true alpha that can carry a team. And thats no disrespect to jdub and chet who are looking like solid core pieces to a championship team.
@@juohan thunder fans would absolutely not argue against that lol. That’s OKC’s big three of the future. Chet is the big reason why they improved so much.
Let's focus on the facts and avoid hypothetical situations. Wemby is a true rookie and he had better individual stats and played better when he faced Chet. I believe that Richard has some negative feelings towards Victor, as he never has anything positive to say without getting overshadowed by his many negative opinions.
Give wemby SGA and see what happens
Give Chet the ball in his hands far more and a team where he’s the #1 option and see what happens 😂
@@partywitmarty nothing would happen he’s not on wembys level
He would average less points because he would have less possessions, if Chet was in wembys position he would average more than he does on the thunder, that’s just how it works.
@@partywitmartywhen sga wasnt playing chets numbers were the exact same
@@thatboylije7892 Chet averaged 17 and 8 and Wemby averaged 21 and 10. You’re insane to think Chet wouldn’t average nearly the same if he was in Wemby’s position when he was already putting up similar numbers
I love Chet's point about all NBA awards (MVP, DPOY, ROY, Clutch, 6th Man) not really having specific criteria, so it becomes a matter of opinion as to how much the team's success matters, or how much specific statistics matter. I think Wemby was the best choice for ROY, but that is just an opinion.
Chet not even a rookie man cut the shit
That’s what I’m saying. Truly this shouldn’t be a debate. Although Chet didn’t play rookie year, he had a full season to be around the nba atmosphere and get the hang of things. To me that is extremely valuable to how you play coming out the gates. There was no rookie race this year like the media wants to portray. Wemby was just the best rookie and it’s that simple
I think Chet should embrace the rivalry with Wemby. It could drive him to championships .
He is competitive, but smart enough to stay away from media manipulations and issues. He shows that competitiveness on the court
Let's just admit that it's easier to win ROTY when you play for a non-playoff contenting team.
THATS THE POINT. ROOKIES ARE DRAFTED TO BAD TEAMS TO MAKE THAT TEAM A PLAYOFF TEAM. tf😂
@@oktome3648why are you mad? 😂
@@partywitmarty I had captions on caps lock on accident. I wasnt mad tho😂
@@oktome3648 OKC went from 10 to 1 with Chet btw, just saying.
@@partywitmarty Yea the whole team improved btw
Wemby is an alien but people really slept on how good chet really was last year.
I think Wemby is a smidge more talented but Chet isnt far behind in basketball skills...the main thing is this Minnesota kid seems like he has a good head on his shoulders.
wemby is not just “a smidge” more talented
@@leandrobrunner1627 Nah it's a "smidge"...I'm comparing Wemby vs Holmgren and NOT Wemby vs Tacko Fall. You Wemby fans get off his jock...Jokic just recently dominated Wemby in International play...and he probably did it with a hangover.
@@JackDakerso if he is just a smidge more talented, you think Chet as a first option, taking on double teams and triple teams would put up 21 points.
@@AdrianGarcia-gy9kf Uh yes...yes I do...lets look at 2024 stats...Holmgren has a usage rate of 21.6 while Wemby has a usage rate of 32.1...Luka Doncic leads the league with 35.9...Wemby is 3 points behind Luka and Holmgren is 11 points behind Wemby...Holmgren is third option at best on OKC...so please think it through before saying more ignorant things.
@@JackDaker just because your a die hard Chet fan don’t mean us Wemby fans are delusional bro lmao. You’re not always right. Eye test says something completely different. Numbers don’t lie but they don’t tell the full story
This thumbnail is wild “Shet on wemby” 😂
Are they the top 2 rookies in a class in history?
On God I didn’t know yall still dropped episodes.
Chet’s answer should’ve been simply “no”. Wemby is generational. Chet is just another good player. 10 years from now we will shake our heads that this was even a conversation.
Chet's way better than good. He had an all time rookie season and people think he's average because his rookie season was the same as Wembys
@@ttam1217let me make this easy for you. Chet has the potential to be an all star and wemby has the potential to be the best player in the league in 3 to 4 years
@kalenmarshall8692 now explain to yourself how an all star is just "good".
@@ttam1217 you said his rookie season “was the same as Wembys” I just gave you the discrepancy of what their ceilings are. Not debating semantics such as the word “good”
Channing *Fryer* , is that a new model of the air fryer? 😂
Abraham Lincoln ain't dead, he walks among us and plays ball
You've got to get these guys clip on microphones. The handhelds aren't working!
the only reason jefferson argued for Chet as Roy was only to stand out.... it was clear Wemby was Roy from start to finish, the numbers were on Wemby side, the team record has never been included in the vote of that award. And it goes both ways, if Chet was in wemby situation in Spurs, would he scored and do as much as he did probably yes probably not, if wemby was in Chet position dont you think they would have beat the Mavs?? Wemby, set aside offense, was galaxies over Chet, way more flexible and able to guard 1 to 5
That was a surprisingly mature answer
I like Chet. Imo i believe if Wemby was on OKC, with all that talent that would be on that team, i wanna say that they would beat everyone on the western division.
I saw your rebound in one of the playoff games, points i dont care, but rebound for 7footer?
That was a Crazy set up question!
Wemby's talent shines brighter. Just a fact.
Hats off to Chet for having a great rookie season! However, the ROY race wasn't even close and Wemby was way above Chet's level from January on. Let's not act like it was a close race, once they removed Sochan at the point and SAS let Wemby play the 5 it was over! The guy was playing like an seasoned All-Star, and it was truly amazing to watch.
This is one of the seasons where there could've been co rookie of year just due to the different situations both chet and wemby were under, we did have co rookies with hill and kidd in the past, but the league is very narrative based and they understand what sounds better and what makes them more money victor very well could be the face of the league soon.
If wemby never had that MASSIVE leap since January, they could be. But he did improved like he’s on his 3rd year 😂 Nothing that chet can do with that.
@reynalyndapat6284 chet has a big argument tho guy, yea he was on a better team but once put on the thunder they became a 1 seed while putting up solid numbers as a rookie, Victor is great and his numbers are ridiculous but was on a losing ball club like they only won 22 games.
This is why I said the situations are very different I feel there could've been co rookies this year.
When SGA and JDub were rested towards the end of the season, Chet had a chance to be that guy for the Thunder and he still didn’t put up the same numbers as Wemby.
Why does there even need to be a discussion? Wemby > Chet
I love Vic but the main thing that pissed me off about this rivalry/matchup is when Vic lowered his head like he was playing football and head butted Chet AND got an And-1, even as a Spurs fan that play was so bogus and it disgusted me tbh. I hope he learns how to properly drive and not play dirty like that.
He did it the first time on accident then he did it again no head but lol
Bro expertly dodged every question!
Even if you add Chet’s total stats in the play-offs to his regular stats, Wemby would still have the better numbers and Chet played 92 games in total, while Wemby played 71. Wemby’s regular stats is also better than Chet’s PER36 stats. This is not a knock on Chet because he is certainly great and he fits perfectly in the Thunder system, but Wemby is just the better player. Always had been since FIBA U19. Also, Wemby is doing all of these on the fly. Chet had a whole year to learn and build chemistry with his team that’s why the Thunder gelled well together. Wemby has to deal with the opponents gameplanning against him on top of teammates not passing him the ball when he’s open.
Don’t let this blind you from the fact JJ took down the Jayson Tatum interview
Chet's a good player, Wemby is next level
Chet 💯 underrated because of Wemby
How is he underrated when they were literally saying he better than Wemby half the season? Wemby just proved the doubters wrong
To everyone saying Chet would have similar if not better stats than wemby as first option: Chet played 4 games as first option (no shai or jdub) this season. His stats were: 17 8 1.25apg 2bpg 0.5spg on 42/33/77 splits. Wemby for the whole season is literally better than Chet at all those stats (points,rebs,ast,block,steals,fg,3fg,ft%) but I'm led to believe he's a better first option than wemby lmfao
Wemby over Chet all day. Chet is really great but not generational great. We can imagine if they swapped places, Chet could have been ROY being the centerpiece of the Spurs but the Thunders could have been fighting for the ring against the Celtics if they had Wemby.
I think its best to say if Chet was on the Spurs instead his stats could've been just as ridiculous in his own way.
You are the only sane person in these comments. Wemby is on a trash team, while chet is on a 1 seed. Chet would probably have crazy numbers if literally every play was run through him, like the spurs do with wembenyama. I think people get into the marketing too much
they both super official but it’s different wemby is poised to the face of the league and chet still gonna dominate and do what he gotta do 🤷🏾♂️
Wemby won because he was the better rookie. Wemby will win MVP before Chet as well.
My goodness, the ROTY award was already closed and given to someone else yet people are still milking it for content? Jesus.
Chet Holmgren works out with Shake Weights.
chet wasn’t even a rookie , the guy the won was an actual rookie . the numbers chet had wouldn’t been worst his actual rookie year . people don’t realize chet practiced with his team a whole year before he played a game
People who say wemby would do way better than Chet on the thunder don’t understand how basketball works.
The reason wembys stats are so high on the spurs is because he is the best player, meaning he gets the ball more, which means more points and more assist.
If he was on the thunder he would have similar stats to Chet, still higher but similar.
That’s due to less possessions.
Yes wemby is better but it’s not a drastic difference, wemby had a top 3 rookie season of all time, Chet easily had a top 10
Finally a sane comment
ill say this much, if wembys on the thunder, we looking at a championship team RIGHT NOW
Why do people mention age when talking about rookie of the year? However old you are when you get to the league you are still rookie. For some they are 26 some are 18. Youre still a rookie. It just took some longer to get the skill set. I dont see why age would change anything when judging rookie of the year. If however you were going to make an argument about who was better at a certain age fine, but thats a whole different argument. Rookie of the year is just that.
Winning rookie of the year in year 2 is crazy work shouldn’t qualify in year 2 even if u get hurt rookie year