"Burn down everything you have EVER loved for me, Carmilla." She really hit the nail on the head with that one. Her mother is dead, her sister is dead, she has lost everything that meant something to her in an attempt to please and save Laura. I want to cry, tbh. This episode was too much.
"And I am the fool that trusted you." And you know what else? I AM THE FOOL THAT SOLD MY SOUL TO THIS SHOW AND LOOK WHERE IT'S GOT ME. WATCH CARMILLA THEY SAID, IT WOULD BE FUN THEY SAID. NO ONE GETS HURT THEY SAID.
+DucksMakeRainbows I think the worst is to continue watching when you see the mess with ours feelings they're doing... But yeah, I am as fool as you dear
My Hollstein heart is broken... But omg did you see that bad assery on Carmilla.... Holy freaking hell. Amazing!!!!!!! It's crazy how invested I am in the future of this show.... Where do I sign up :)
I honestly don't know if Carmilla and Laura should get back together at this point, and that scares me. Laura is indirectly responsible for the only other person she loved's death. Carmilla is a being of pure hatred and will kill anybody who stands in her way. And yet she still listens to Laura instead of pushing her aside and killing Danny. She warns everybody in the room to stay away from her instead of slaughtering them all. She has that spark of good even though her sister was just killed by the person she trusted the most. She's going to be angry at Laura, at Danny, and at herself. Laura is going to realize how royally she fucked up. I'm not sure how they can come back from this, but I'm sticking to my Hollstein.
+MrYrualive I don't know, their relationship is adorable but honestly I agree with Carm that Laura was pushing her constantly, forcing her to be the 'hero', I honestly don't want them back together, whilst I loved their relationship in season one, it turned down an unhealthy path in season two.
+AksentNetharia it hurts to see that, I always thought that everything gonna be alright but now... I don't think that Laura is the right one for Carmilla
+AksentNetharia CARM HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD ALWAYS. CONSIDERING ALL THE TIME SHE COULD BE WAY WORSE. SHE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG THEY ALL FUCKED HER OVER BY BEING IDIOTS! IDIOTS!!!
I know everyone is always fawning over the chemistry between Natasha and Elise during their more intimate moments with one another (rightfully so), but I have to point out their chemistry as actors when they’re screaming at each other. The trust and vulnerability while playing off of one another is fantastic. Props, ladies. Excellent work!
Laura is the new Piper from OITNB just getting on my nerve with all of these expectations while she tries to maintain innocence. I don't know if anyone pointed it out yet but those last couple of episodes were the QUIETEST I've ever seen Laura ever. And Carm, I feel like this death was a pinnacle point in getting her to where she needs to be. Sadly Mattie's death will be the catalyst for Carmilla to reach a new peak. Mattie, what an exit,loved the flashback. She will go down as a favorite for me.
***** I agree, but both Piper and Laura need to not be written so harshly with so many hang ups. I know this is to keep the story going, but I'm not happy about it. And Laura and Camilla are perfect as well if the obstacles weren't there they would be together
+Regina Phalange I'd have to disagree, Laura and Carmilla both have attributes that would draw together as an amazing couple. I think just a bad mix of fear and circumstance are halting things. War doesn't help create the best relationships and that isn't helping them in this case. Piper and Alex have history, but a history made of lies and mistrust that's how they both made it to jail. I hated how Piper dragged her back to prison to gain control but then dropped her as soon as Stella came in the picture. They are very toxic together and hopefully don't come back together in season 4.
please Piper is so interesting! i never know what the hell she's going to do next. Laura has been singing the same tune all season. I think the oitnb audience sympathise with piper less because we see her transition through prison, everyone else has had their supremely narcissistic moments, but because we only ever knew them in prison those traits are easier to accept as just part of their character
September 10th, 2015. We fought, we battled, we won. They told us that we would never survive the giraffe episode, they told us that we were too weak, that we were too feeble. And now, on this special day, I say, nay, we are not feeble. WE ARE STRONG. And when they write this into the history textbooks, they shall say "THEY LIVED, THEY PROSPERED, THEY SURVIVED." I'd like to thank my family, and my friends, for this momentous occasion. Let us raise our glasses, our glasses filled with soy milk with a strange colouring that tastes not unlike metal. LET US RAISE OUR HEARTS IN UNISON. This one's for you, Creampuffs.
+DucksMakeRainbows Not to burst your bubble, but I don't think Laura was wearing a jacket in the Giraffe shirt picture. I think we've only just begun. Lol.
So, as I suspected, Mattie didn't actually kill anyone. Yet Danny killed her, and Laura is still making excuses for her. "It's not her fault" um, last I checked, IT TOTALLY IS. She did not HAVE to kill Mattie, she did because she blamed her for the deaths of the Summers that Mattie SAID she didn't do. "That's not fair, I didn't ask you for any of this-" YES YOU DID. Do you not recall asking Carm repeatedly for help taking down Mattie?
But as someone else pointed out, Mattie was trying to, well, KILL Danny. Danny was just acting out of self defense. Laura shouldn't have told her about the necklace in the first place though.
The DID System of A If Mattie wanted Danny dead, she would've killed her. She wouldn't have wasted time just hurting her arm or back or whatever she was crushing. Besides, the first line of self-defense is NOT to just murder someone. Murder should be a last resort, not the first thing you try.
AW WASN'T THIS A LOVELY EPISODE? LaFontaine got better within seconds and made a sandwich! YUM DID THAT LOOK TASTY?! And Danny was like RIBS? I'M FINE, I EAT RIBS FOR BREAKFAST. And Laura and Carm shared such a lovely kiss, WASN'T THAT SUCH A LOVELY KISS?! Oh and Mattie I did love the little dance you did! Stop doing the worm on the floor though it's a little much now!
I was sitting a coffee shop when I was watching this and I started crying and this old lady said are u ok I said no my queen just died of course I'm not okay😭😭😭😭😭
I know how you feel I just burst into tears in front of my family and they started to get worried when I told them my queen died and my kitten was betrayed 😢😢😭😭😭
I'm rewatching too and what is that scene in the beginning? What if that's an another dimension, a "coexistence"? I mean what if somehow Carm manages to go back in time and save everyone? So change the past? Okay sorry probably I have too much time to think....
I honestly dont know how can there still be hope for Laura and Carmilla after this episode .You cant possibly love the person responsible for your sister death .
+NickyTaggy I burned everything I have after this in a fit of madness, thereby rendering a will utterly useless, so that saved me some time for crying in the corner.
I genuinely dislike Laura! Carmilla deserves way better. Someone who doesn't want to completely change her. Someone who can accept both the good and bad/dark things about her and her vampiric nature. Wow...I am getting waaay too into this show lol. Talking about the characters like they are actual people and not just actors and all. Yikes.
Me too! You can't force people to change. Not to mention that she acted like she herself doesn't need improvement! Carmila trusted her with a secret, and she told someone about it! Because of that her sister is dead. At first it was cute, I thought maybe both of them might gradually change, but she wanted only carmila to change, to change right away as if she wasn't good enough. It's natural for people to change, but you can't force it
same here. the only reason I like her again now is because of the transformation she makes by the end of season 2. It took her a while but it was so great to see her change.
Carmilla let her violent, callous and bigoted vampire sister get near Laura and her human friends, untill said sister nearly murdered one of them. Worse still, she took that risk knowingly. The only reason Carmilla told Laura how to kill Mattie was because she knew Mattie might kill her, and didn't want to lose Laura. But Laura doesn't matter because some three hundred years old vampire loves her. Laura matters because she's a person, a human being. Three hundred years of friendship don't trump the value of a human life. Being a rich, sexy vampire doesn't trump the value of a human life. It doesn't turn self-defense into murder. It doesn't turn protecting your oppressed friends against a privileged abuser into an injustice. Laura tried to teach that to Carmilla, and she tried to change her. You're right to say that she was wrong. Because you can't teach empathy, respect and humanity to someone. They have to try to feel them themselves. But Carmilla never tried. Carmilla will never change. LAURA deserves so much better.
Savannah Hoekstra Wait what? My ex did this same thing to me and people treated her like a delicate princess and me like a horrible troll because i was ok with both her faults and mine and wanted to work on them together. you mean there are women in the world that see through this crap?? wow - mind blown.
I thought the same ahaha I was like... Wait, so Danny didn't kill her... Just hurt her really bad... And now they're making fun of the anlge fish? What? What the heck happened? *REALITY IN 3, 2, 1* NOOO FUCK SHE REALLY IS DEAD :'c NOOOOOOOOOO MATTIE :'c
Jesus Christ, this fandom needs to wake up. In this situation, literally everyone is in the wrong; it was wrong for Laura to tell Danny how to kill Mattie, it was wrong for Carmilla to tell Laura in the first place, it was wrong for Mattie to try and kill Danny, and it was wrong for Danny to kill Mattie. Stop whining. Literally every action that these characters took was taken because it felt like the only option to them.
+ben swanson Yes, she let emotions overtake her logic. She knew Laura was convinced that Mattie had killed the newspaper staff, and that Laura had been spending time with Danny. She is indirectly responsible for Mattie's death. So, yes, she was wrong to tell Laura. I think much of the message of the show is that love is not a cure for the problems in your relationship, and that caring for someone can lead to you having dangerous blindspots when it comes to that person.
+Cazz R Don't blame Danny. It's Laura's fault for getting everyone into this mess. Well it's also Mattie's for attempting to kill Laura when they first met. IT'S EVERYONE'S FAULT!
Despite knowing how this season ends, this episode still makes me want to cry. there is so much happening here. The opening scene with Mattie and Carm playing made me smile and Carm telling Laura everything she and Mattie had done together utterly broke my heart.
Carmilla's walks away and t.A.T.u song starts playing: "Things I loved before are not for sale. Keep yourself away, far away from me. I'll forever stay your perfect enemy"
That line at 4:34 - 4:44 always gets to me: "Be good for me, Carmilla. Change for me, Carmilla. Burn down everything you've ever loved for me, Carmilla." Exquisite acting from thee Natasha Negovanlis.
3:50 That's what I've been saying from the beginning... Well intentioned though she may be, Laura is far too idealistic to understand just how selfish, self-righteous, and uncompromising she is.
Can we talk about how Danny didn't even hesitate to comit murder? She could have easily grab the pendant and treatened her to kill her, but no, she literally jumped to the opportunity to kill Mattie. Weren't Danny, Laura and the others supposed to be above the 'bad guys', the vampires? Yet Danny stood down to their level by killing first, asking questions later. Who's the murder now?
+Lin L. Hendric Yes! And until her dying breath, Mattie insisted that she didn't kill all those people. Honestly, all of them should have gotten real hard evidence first that Mattie DID kill all those people, but nooooo, they kept blaming and accusing Mattie just because of the sole fact that she was a vampire and they always equate vampires with the words, "bad, monster," or anything synonymous to aforementioned words. Simply put, they JUDGED her just because she was a centuries-old being, which they should not have done in the first place. Sorry for ranting, I'm just really, really pissed and sad that Mattie's gone when they never had proof since the beginning.
Danny has done enough tbh... This season I've really tried to like her but she killed one of my favourite characters and I can't forgive that. I hope Carmilla plots her revenge, I am so utterly disappointed in Laura. I hoped she knew better than to be an accomplice of destroying someone Carmilla held so close to her heart. And I can't help but feel deeply for the pain Carmilla is experiencing. Not knowing who she has or who she's can trust. I don't see how there's any coming back from this unless there's a way to bring Mattie back. Other than that my heart hurts and I'll be waiting anxiously for the next episode to possibly ruin me some more.
+Angelica Garcia Laura, apart from Mattie, was the only person Carmilla loved and trusted in the show, and that secret about the necklace was meant solely Laura's protection. Carmilla loved Laura enough to sell out her sister, and that should have been enough for Laura. Instead, she just had to break Carmilla's trust, and by extension, her heart and tell Danny. Sigh.
Laura...you're breaking my heart. LIke, do you even know why Carm told you that in confidence? I mean, yeah, Carm would rather live in a world in which you're alive and Matty is dead than a world in which Matty is alive but broke Carm's trust to kill you. But the first reality is still awful and *Carmilla only wanted it as an alternative to the second*. Just, Laura... :(
I understand your feelings, but please try to see it from Laura's point of view. Carmilla let someone she knew might kill Laura and her friends near them, made them to work together, guilt tripped Laura and emotionnally abused her about it untill way after their breakup, when she had no right to bother her, and the psychological trauma and stress were piling up on Laura. By the end, Laura felt like she could dismiss Carmilla's biased, anti-human rationalizations to her and did the best to save people that were her responsibility, because she worried for the friends Mattie DID try to kill. In a real-life situation, if your girlfriend's sister threatened your friend with a gun, you wouldn't let her shoot them. Normal people don't prioritize a relationship with a significant other over a friend's life. Or anyone's life. What happened to Mattie was self-defense, and the only person who's clearly in the wrong is Mattie, as awesome as she was. Carm, Laura and Danny are all various shades of innocent in the matter.
Did they not learn anything before when they we're trying to get Carmilla to confess she was a vampire? She told them within minutes so I'm pretty sure Maddie would've confessed to the murders if she did it. They were so focused on putting the blame on Maddie that they didn't even consider the thought of Perry possibly being possessed by someone or something. Did anyone notice how Perry's entire demeanor changed in the last episode? It went from scared/terrified to confident/you have no idea who you're talking to and what I have in store for you. I feel so bad for Carmilla....sacrifices so much and gets little in return 😢😢
+EyeNews Reactions Exactly. And until she died, Mattie said that she never killed those people. I mean, if she really did, she would have confessed because she was dying anyway. There wouldn't be any harm left to do to her if she confessed to the murders. They were so focused on putting all the blame on Mattie that it blinded them and clouded their judgment, and look what the fuck that did. And Perry is still missing and no one is even batting an eyelash about it. Plus, she was there when the newspaper kids died, and she was also already missing when news of the Summer Society people being dead came around. *But hey, Mattie's a vampire and because of that, she's the only one capable of committing those crimes, right? *NOTE: SARCASM
"I didn't think she'd kill ME." Anyone else left with the feeling Mattie wasn't talking about Danny? Because to me it sounded hella personal (like 'The Dean did it through Perry' personal... not... directly... but remember that shady and manipulative Perry/Danny convo a while back?)
Wow...Natasha, you were AMAZING!!! Yes, my heart's broken right now...but I couldn't help but give a great big "Whoop Whoop!" for your acting! You blew it away, girl!
funny thing is it always takes me like a half hour to watch a new episode of Carmilla because I keep pausing it to scream and shout I KNEW IT if one of my theories came true and then there's all the crying and the mandatory re-watching of the episode. I just have so many emotions T^T
Well we at least got the 'I will kill' line out of the way. But still...WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE EXACT GIRAFFE SHIRT CRYING MOMENT!!! UGH!!!...Or have we? I don't think Laura was wearing her jacket in the crying picture, but then again the tears were probably brought on by this episode. Anyway, with Mattie out of the way, Carmilla is pissed and out for blood. What will this mean for our heroes? Is The Dean possessing Perry to carry out whatever plan she originally set in motion? Have all the Hollstein shippers died because of Laura's betrayal? I don't know! But I do know that you need to tune into the next episode of "The Adventures of Wanna Buffy, Warrior Sister, LaFrankenstein, F.A.B. J.P., Possessed Perry (wherever she is), Cougar Town (not anymore actually), Friendly Friend Zoner, and Carmilla: The Very PISSED OFF Lesbian Vampire" to see if our heroes can pick up the pieces. See you next Tuesgay.
Kolar Jack *On her tombstone* Her killer looks and sophisticated sass will always be remembered. She may have been evil, but she was always there for her sister.
+huntcd2012 I think we are all sitting around with baited breath waiting for the moment/reason behind the crying picture. I think there is more to it and we will be surprised by it!
+huntcd2012 no we still haven't gotten THE EXACT GIRAFFE SHIRT CRYING MOMENT!!! cause you're right she wasn't wearing her jacket, unless the picture was from the rehearsal....
Natasha was such a great actress!! Just saw this mini series bout 2mos ago and literally hooked to watch this for almost 5x and subscribed to this channel.. can't wait for the movie to release!!
I usually don't comment on videos... at all. I haven't for a long time. But... holy flippin' hell... I was not expecting the "Stay away from me... I will kill" thing so freaking early. I was expecting it to be in a few more episodes... Kudos to the cast for this scene. Now... excuse me while I curl up in the fetal position and cry.
I'm italian. Sorry for my English. You know what? I can't sleep. Tomorrow I'll graduate and I'm so scared about my future, but here I am, at 3.00 am, watching this awesome show and just for a couple of hours, you know... I feel less lonely. Less overwhelming. Can you believe that? I can't explain things well but this is what I feel... so thank you! GRAZIE! Cast straordinario! In bocca al lupo per tutto, #KindaTv :)
"Oh, Mattie's in a different outfit in the preview, she's fine." "Carmilla will understand that Danny needed to defend herself and Laura needed to protect her friends." "Carm cares too much about Laura to turn her back on her." I trusted you fandom, I trusted you. (That said, this is a GORGEOUS breakdown, and I love Danny's retort to Carmilla [goodbye Lawstein you will be missed]. But if we get a choice between the beginning of the episode and the end, I'll pay all the money in the world for the beginning.)
Would everyone please light their candles and raise their wands in this moment of silence for the greatest, most amazing and extremely loyal vampire. She told it how it is and always did it with sass. Long Live Mattie!!!
My God, I'm crying... At the beginning of the episode I thought "Oh, everything's alright , Carmilla figured out a way to save Mattie anyway", and I was just realising that Mattie was perhaps my favourite character when the flashback ended and I watched her die with my mouth open. I really wish that Carmilla had killed Danny; I like her, but this time she's gone too far. And when Carm started freaking out... that scene was so touching, Natasha acted so WONDERFULLY that I felt my own heart breaking.
So anyone gonna talk about how she has a different type of scream now Which just proves my theory their scream is like the mangekyou sharingan in Naruto
Me: God? God: yes my dear? Me: Why must you insist on bringing me back to life just to have me killed again? God (reveals to be Hollstein): TO WATCH YOU SUFFER!!
+Naomi Cruz If barbie's taught me anything, it's that there's "always hope". Plus, demon here. I don't get emotions. Infact, i don't know why we need yo have hope. This was a lovely episode. Perry made cookies, Laf and JP were spewing smart stuff, Maddie went on a homocidal rampage (but thats okay, vamps gotta vamp) and Hollstein were all cuddled up. And, of course , Danny rode her dinosaur. See, nothing to cry over…
"Burn down everything you have EVER loved for me, Carmilla." She really hit the nail on the head with that one. Her mother is dead, her sister is dead, she has lost everything that meant something to her in an attempt to please and save Laura. I want to cry, tbh. This episode was too much.
so true :/
That's it!
Laura is so selfish. She did not think one second about Carm..
PunkBread o
I still cry
Carm should've taken Mattie's body. Like lol now it's just lying there. Also Natasha's acting was brilliant.
Lol
"And I am the fool that trusted you." And you know what else? I AM THE FOOL THAT SOLD MY SOUL TO THIS SHOW AND LOOK WHERE IT'S GOT ME. WATCH CARMILLA THEY SAID, IT WOULD BE FUN THEY SAID. NO ONE GETS HURT THEY SAID.
+DucksMakeRainbows Come now, we all knew someone would get hurt.
+DucksMakeRainbows I think the worst is to continue watching when you see the mess with ours feelings they're doing... But yeah, I am as fool as you dear
haha ikr
My Hollstein heart is broken... But omg did you see that bad assery on Carmilla.... Holy freaking hell. Amazing!!!!!!! It's crazy how invested I am in the future of this show.... Where do I sign up :)
+DucksMakeRainbows STOP HAVING SO MANY WELL-LIKED COMMENTS but no actually don't they're so relatable and match my internal monologue every time ;-;
I honestly don't know if Carmilla and Laura should get back together at this point, and that scares me.
Laura is indirectly responsible for the only other person she loved's death. Carmilla is a being of pure hatred and will kill anybody who stands in her way.
And yet she still listens to Laura instead of pushing her aside and killing Danny. She warns everybody in the room to stay away from her instead of slaughtering them all. She has that spark of good even though her sister was just killed by the person she trusted the most.
She's going to be angry at Laura, at Danny, and at herself. Laura is going to realize how royally she fucked up. I'm not sure how they can come back from this, but I'm sticking to my Hollstein.
+MrYrualive I don't know, their relationship is adorable but honestly I agree with Carm that Laura was pushing her constantly, forcing her to be the 'hero', I honestly don't want them back together, whilst I loved their relationship in season one, it turned down an unhealthy path in season two.
+A Mead Same here...Hollstein is dead.
I hate that the youtube app doesn't allow voting for comment. Totally agree with you.
+AksentNetharia it hurts to see that, I always thought that everything gonna be alright but now... I don't think that Laura is the right one for Carmilla
+AksentNetharia CARM HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD ALWAYS. CONSIDERING ALL THE TIME SHE COULD BE WAY WORSE. SHE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG THEY ALL FUCKED HER OVER BY BEING IDIOTS! IDIOTS!!!
just one word for this ep:
HOLYSHIT
+María Teresa Adasme Mejías That's two words. Lol.
+huntcd2012 don't even caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare I'm even more excited and terrified for the rest of the show lol
More like HOLLIShit ;P
+María Teresa Adasme Mejías Jesus fucking christ what an episode
María Teresa holyshit indeed
I know everyone is always fawning over the chemistry between Natasha and Elise during their more intimate moments with one another (rightfully so), but I have to point out their chemistry as actors when they’re screaming at each other. The trust and vulnerability while playing off of one another is fantastic.
Props, ladies. Excellent work!
That flashback.
That death scene.
That acting.
I am very much not okay.
Just casually waiting for Laura's character development. Can she hurry tf up though.
Same
Laura is the new Piper from OITNB just getting on my nerve with all of these expectations while she tries to maintain innocence. I don't know if anyone pointed it out yet but those last couple of episodes were the QUIETEST I've ever seen Laura ever. And Carm, I feel like this death was a pinnacle point in getting her to where she needs to be. Sadly Mattie's death will be the catalyst for Carmilla to reach a new peak. Mattie, what an exit,loved the flashback. She will go down as a favorite for me.
***** I agree, but both Piper and Laura need to not be written so harshly with so many hang ups. I know this is to keep the story going, but I'm not happy about it. And Laura and Camilla are perfect as well if the obstacles weren't there they would be together
+Regina Phalange Nah, Alex is super manipulative. Their relationship ain't healthy, yo.
+Regina Phalange I'd have to disagree, Laura and Carmilla both have attributes that would draw together as an amazing couple. I think just a bad mix of fear and circumstance are halting things. War doesn't help create the best relationships and that isn't helping them in this case. Piper and Alex have history, but a history made of lies and mistrust that's how they both made it to jail. I hated how Piper dragged her back to prison to gain control but then dropped her as soon as Stella came in the picture. They are very toxic together and hopefully don't come back together in season 4.
no piper is the new Laura
please Piper is so interesting! i never know what the hell she's going to do next. Laura has been singing the same tune all season. I think the oitnb audience sympathise with piper less because we see her transition through prison, everyone else has had their supremely narcissistic moments, but because we only ever knew them in prison those traits are easier to accept as just part of their character
I was sooo waiting for Carmilla to go all Lima Heights on Danny.
+MoreThanJuliet Lima Heights adjacent
+MoreThanJuliet omfg
I LOVE THIS COMMENT.
kinda waiting on boss to come and put a winky face or something tbh
wanky
September 10th, 2015. We fought, we battled, we won. They told us that we would never survive the giraffe episode, they told us that we were too weak, that we were too feeble. And now, on this special day, I say, nay, we are not feeble. WE ARE STRONG. And when they write this into the history textbooks, they shall say "THEY LIVED, THEY PROSPERED, THEY SURVIVED." I'd like to thank my family, and my friends, for this momentous occasion. Let us raise our glasses, our glasses filled with soy milk with a strange colouring that tastes not unlike metal. LET US RAISE OUR HEARTS IN UNISON. This one's for you, Creampuffs.
+DucksMakeRainbows Hear, hear!!
+DucksMakeRainbows HUZZAH!
+DucksMakeRainbows Not to burst your bubble, but I don't think Laura was wearing a jacket in the Giraffe shirt picture. I think we've only just begun. Lol.
my soul and heart didn't survive though.
+huntcd2012 elise tweeted that this was the ep
So, as I suspected, Mattie didn't actually kill anyone. Yet Danny killed her, and Laura is still making excuses for her. "It's not her fault" um, last I checked, IT TOTALLY IS. She did not HAVE to kill Mattie, she did because she blamed her for the deaths of the Summers that Mattie SAID she didn't do. "That's not fair, I didn't ask you for any of this-" YES YOU DID. Do you not recall asking Carm repeatedly for help taking down Mattie?
But as someone else pointed out, Mattie was trying to, well, KILL Danny. Danny was just acting out of self defense. Laura shouldn't have told her about the necklace in the first place though.
The DID System of A If Mattie wanted Danny dead, she would've killed her. She wouldn't have wasted time just hurting her arm or back or whatever she was crushing. Besides, the first line of self-defense is NOT to just murder someone. Murder should be a last resort, not the first thing you try.
+ladycalderone99 Not to mention, would both Carm and Laura really have just stood there and watched Danny be murdered?
Syd IsStrange Not with how quick Laura got in Carmilla's way when she was going to kill Danny.
She could just take the locket and made a threat, but yet she chose to destory it in one move
AW WASN'T THIS A LOVELY EPISODE? LaFontaine got better within seconds and made a sandwich! YUM DID THAT LOOK TASTY?! And Danny was like RIBS? I'M FINE, I EAT RIBS FOR BREAKFAST. And Laura and Carm shared such a lovely kiss, WASN'T THAT SUCH A LOVELY KISS?! Oh and Mattie I did love the little dance you did! Stop doing the worm on the floor though it's a little much now!
Ikr
+DucksMakeRainbows #ThatDenialLife
+DucksMakeRainbows Denial, who?
And Perry is totally okay and dandy and everybody lives and possibly going to classes tomorrow #DenialLandTropes2k15 #SweetDenial
And Perry is totally okay and dandy and everybody lives and possibly going to classes tomorrow #DenialLandTropes2k15 #SweetDenial
natasha deserves an oscar for this im cRYING
+hollaforadolla just start calling all of them Leo DiCaprio 'cause this has been true several times over.
Was anybody else's mouth just hanging open the entire time?
+cookiekennedy OMG that was me!
+cookiekennedy I was so drawn in by all the drama that I watched the whole thing without checking to see how much time was left on the video.
Yep
MINE WAS OPEN THE WHOLE TIME
and I cried.. like tears jus fell... Carmilla still so hot tho
I was sitting a coffee shop when I was watching this and I started crying and this old lady said are u ok I said no my queen just died of course I'm not okay😭😭😭😭😭
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ikr,poor Queen Mattie.
I know how you feel I just burst into tears in front of my family and they started to get worried when I told them my queen died and my kitten was betrayed 😢😢😭😭😭
+RZR “Rubia” O. Lol they probably thought u were crazy
+troy cooler they did they started backing away it would have been hilarious if Mattie hadn't died and Carmilla hadn't been betrayed😢
nope
Same
+SimgmProductions same boss same
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+SimgmProductions I hope Amanda's fine after that episode :(
Rewatching the series in anticipation of the next season and I forgot how much this episode blew me away!
same here
same there
Same
I'm rewatching too and what is that scene in the beginning? What if that's an another dimension, a "coexistence"? I mean what if somehow Carm manages to go back in time and save everyone? So change the past?
Okay sorry probably I have too much time to think....
valkyrienz ME too man
*Pauses Episode at **2:05* Well, that was a short one eh? *laughs nervously* Very short.
I stopped at 3:29 and can't convince myself to press play
+TheOnlyAwesomeOnes I just closed my eyes and did it
+troy cooler My heart can't take much more of this :'(
+Milla Cabral I was so happy before this point. I almost convinced myself that they had fast-forward into the future. Almost.
I honestly dont know how can there still be hope for Laura and Carmilla after this episode .You cant possibly love the person responsible for your sister death .
Team Mattie! Long Live Our Queen!
*lived
too soon
+Daydreamer. Very soon
I've slowly gone from contempt to love with Mattie and now I'm sobbing
Team Mattie Long Live Our Queen !!!
you ever just suddenly remember a specific episode of carmilla 5 years later? yep that’s exactly what i did
"Burn down everything you've ever loved for me Carmilla." oof, I felt it there. This god damn show. This brilliant, heart wrenching show.
Natasha was FANTASTIC!
Excuse me, I need to write my will
+NickyTaggy I burned everything I have after this in a fit of madness, thereby rendering a will utterly useless, so that saved me some time for crying in the corner.
Can't think of anything right now but PAIN.
I like your glasses
I genuinely dislike Laura! Carmilla deserves way better. Someone who doesn't want to completely change her. Someone who can accept both the good and bad/dark things about her and her vampiric nature. Wow...I am getting waaay too into this show lol. Talking about the characters like they are actual people and not just actors and all. Yikes.
+Savannah Hoekstra hope you got to the end of s2! ;)
Me too! You can't force people to change. Not to mention that she acted like she herself doesn't need improvement! Carmila trusted her with a secret, and she told someone about it! Because of that her sister is dead. At first it was cute, I thought maybe both of them might gradually change, but she wanted only carmila to change, to change right away as if she wasn't good enough. It's natural for people to change, but you can't force it
same here. the only reason I like her again now is because of the transformation she makes by the end of season 2. It took her a while but it was so great to see her change.
Carmilla let her violent, callous and bigoted vampire sister get near Laura and her human friends, untill said sister nearly murdered one of them. Worse still, she took that risk knowingly. The only reason Carmilla told Laura how to kill Mattie was because she knew Mattie might kill her, and didn't want to lose Laura. But Laura doesn't matter because some three hundred years old vampire loves her. Laura matters because she's a person, a human being. Three hundred years of friendship don't trump the value of a human life. Being a rich, sexy vampire doesn't trump the value of a human life. It doesn't turn self-defense into murder. It doesn't turn protecting your oppressed friends against a privileged abuser into an injustice. Laura tried to teach that to Carmilla, and she tried to change her. You're right to say that she was wrong. Because you can't teach empathy, respect and humanity to someone. They have to try to feel them themselves. But Carmilla never tried. Carmilla will never change. LAURA deserves so much better.
Savannah Hoekstra Wait what? My ex did this same thing to me and people treated her like a delicate princess and me like a horrible troll because i was ok with both her faults and mine and wanted to work on them together. you mean there are women in the world that see through this crap?? wow - mind blown.
I started crying in the middle of the episode. I LOVED MATTIE :( POOR CARMILLA. if my heart wasn't broken before nOW IT FUCKING IS!!!
Same sis,Queen Mattie was the best.
We did it, Creampuffs. We survived this episode. We only endured a handful of broken hearts, some tears and endless angst but we made it.
At first I thought I missed an episode
+LyricalLovatic I kind of wish I had now
+LyricalLovatic lmao same
I thought the same ahaha I was like... Wait, so Danny didn't kill her... Just hurt her really bad... And now they're making fun of the anlge fish? What? What the heck happened? *REALITY IN 3, 2, 1* NOOO FUCK SHE REALLY IS DEAD :'c NOOOOOOOOOO MATTIE :'c
All of the props to Natasha Negovanlis on that one. My HEART
Holy shit, let's all give a MASSIVE round of applause for Nat.... I'm shaking so bad...
Jesus Christ, this fandom needs to wake up. In this situation, literally everyone is in the wrong; it was wrong for Laura to tell Danny how to kill Mattie, it was wrong for Carmilla to tell Laura in the first place, it was wrong for Mattie to try and kill Danny, and it was wrong for Danny to kill Mattie. Stop whining. Literally every action that these characters took was taken because it felt like the only option to them.
+Courtney Thomas Carm tol laura because she loved and trusted her to keep it a secret.
+Courtney Thomas NAH bish nah
+ben swanson and Laura told Danny because she loved and trusted her to keep it a secret.
^ yeah and she was wrong. and Courtney I dont think it was wrong for Carm to tell Laura, she told Laura only cause she really cares about her.
+ben swanson Yes, she let emotions overtake her logic. She knew Laura was convinced that Mattie had killed the newspaper staff, and that Laura had been spending time with Danny.
She is indirectly responsible for Mattie's death. So, yes, she was wrong to tell Laura. I think much of the message of the show is that love is not a cure for the problems in your relationship, and that caring for someone can lead to you having dangerous blindspots when it comes to that person.
YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE ME ALL THAT ANGST AND DEATH AND THEN JUST END IT!!!
I'm literally sobbing right now someone get me a tissue.
-passes you a box-
+XxDancingWithDemonsxX takes the box from you and uses the tissue my self
yas bad Carmilla. this is what I've been waiting for. killing Danny would've made this 10x better tho.
oh and Natasha is a great actress.
Mood
Damn it, I was so hoping Carm would at least kill Danny if Mattie had to die....DAMN IT
+Cazz R I am right there with you.
+Cazz R I sure as hell thought she would!
Well, Carm has gone off the deep end now - who knows what we might get before the end!
+Cazz R Don't blame Danny. It's Laura's fault for getting everyone into this mess. Well it's also Mattie's for attempting to kill Laura when they first met. IT'S EVERYONE'S FAULT!
yes. I wanted this.
"Semi-stifled useless lesbian laughing"
4 years late but i laughted so hard 😭😭😭 HAKAHSJAGSVDBDJ
i was looking through the comments to see if anyone else noticed lmaoo
Carmilla broke my heart, poor baby. I want to hug her :'( A huge round of applause to Natasha, I didn't need my heart anyways, it's fine X'(
Putting all the pain and sadness aside for a moment, Natasha is truly outstanding in this episode.
I wanna hug Carmilla right now even if it means she'll kill me... She needs a hug.
I swear I had never heard of this show until Wednesday and I am already more than half way through season two. It's just too addictive.
Sees Mattie in thumbnail??????? Yasssss
Watches episode ...ohhhhhh
Despite knowing how this season ends, this episode still makes me want to cry. there is so much happening here. The opening scene with Mattie and Carm playing made me smile and Carm telling Laura everything she and Mattie had done together utterly broke my heart.
"All those memories, all that life...to end like this?! For what...YOU?!" That hit me right in the feels
And in the moment...Laura Hollis fucked up
Oh, the episode is only 2:03 minutes long, that's an awful shame.
My heart hurts 😭
"Gidget" @0:45 ? omg thats what Franky calls Ms Westfall in Wentworth Prison
+Kraftinq Hehe. Indeed. #Fridget.
Omg I’m not the only one. I literally said (in my head) only Franky can say that.
I miss Franky
@@mychemimbalance my comment is 4 years old, thank you for taking me back!!!
NOTHING COULD HAVE PREPARED ME FOR THAT, MY HEART IS BROKEN
Carmilla's walks away and t.A.T.u song starts playing:
"Things I loved before are not for sale.
Keep yourself away, far away from me.
I'll forever stay your perfect enemy"
That line at 4:34 - 4:44 always gets to me: "Be good for me, Carmilla. Change for me, Carmilla. Burn down everything you've ever loved for me, Carmilla." Exquisite acting from thee Natasha Negovanlis.
3:50 That's what I've been saying from the beginning...
Well intentioned though she may be, Laura is far too idealistic to understand just how selfish, self-righteous, and uncompromising she is.
I WASN'T MENTALLY PREPARED
Mattie was such an amazing character, and a great addition. I miss her already.
Can we just take a minute (or an eternity) to discuss how amazing the acting is in this?
So much for, "Maybe after all this settles down, we can talk" in ep.27. Ugh.
+Brianna Giles Looks like that's not going to happen. Dammit.
Can we talk about how Danny didn't even hesitate to comit murder? She could have easily grab the pendant and treatened her to kill her, but no, she literally jumped to the opportunity to kill Mattie. Weren't Danny, Laura and the others supposed to be above the 'bad guys', the vampires? Yet Danny stood down to their level by killing first, asking questions later. Who's the murder now?
+Lin L. Hendric YOU....! deserve a cookie... here *gives cookie*
+Lin L. Hendric Yes! And until her dying breath, Mattie insisted that she didn't kill all those people. Honestly, all of them should have gotten real hard evidence first that Mattie DID kill all those people, but nooooo, they kept blaming and accusing Mattie just because of the sole fact that she was a vampire and they always equate vampires with the words, "bad, monster," or anything synonymous to aforementioned words. Simply put, they JUDGED her just because she was a centuries-old being, which they should not have done in the first place. Sorry for ranting, I'm just really, really pissed and sad that Mattie's gone when they never had proof since the beginning.
+Lin L. Hendric so true
Well. She was going to die. So...
Finally... Thanks Natasha, I was waiting to see more of you, more of your acting skills. This is the tension I was waiting, I was hoping to see.
Danny has done enough tbh... This season I've really tried to like her but she killed one of my favourite characters and I can't forgive that.
I hope Carmilla plots her revenge, I am so utterly disappointed in Laura. I hoped she knew better than to be an accomplice of destroying someone Carmilla held so close to her heart. And I can't help but feel deeply for the pain Carmilla is experiencing. Not knowing who she has or who she's can trust. I don't see how there's any coming back from this unless there's a way to bring Mattie back. Other than that my heart hurts and I'll be waiting anxiously for the next episode to possibly ruin me some more.
+Angelica Garcia Laura, apart from Mattie, was the only person Carmilla loved and trusted in the show, and that secret about the necklace was meant solely Laura's protection. Carmilla loved Laura enough to sell out her sister, and that should have been enough for Laura. Instead, she just had to break Carmilla's trust, and by extension, her heart and tell Danny. Sigh.
I must say, you guys improved TREMENDOUSLY since the first season, and keep getting better with every episode! +VervegirlTV
Laura...you're breaking my heart. LIke, do you even know why Carm told you that in confidence? I mean, yeah, Carm would rather live in a world in which you're alive and Matty is dead than a world in which Matty is alive but broke Carm's trust to kill you. But the first reality is still awful and *Carmilla only wanted it as an alternative to the second*. Just, Laura... :(
I understand your feelings, but please try to see it from Laura's point of view. Carmilla let someone she knew might kill Laura and her friends near them, made them to work together, guilt tripped Laura and emotionnally abused her about it untill way after their breakup, when she had no right to bother her, and the psychological trauma and stress were piling up on Laura. By the end, Laura felt like she could dismiss Carmilla's biased, anti-human rationalizations to her and did the best to save people that were her responsibility, because she worried for the friends Mattie DID try to kill.
In a real-life situation, if your girlfriend's sister threatened your friend with a gun, you wouldn't let her shoot them. Normal people don't prioritize a relationship with a significant other over a friend's life. Or anyone's life. What happened to Mattie was self-defense, and the only person who's clearly in the wrong is Mattie, as awesome as she was. Carm, Laura and Danny are all various shades of innocent in the matter.
Yeah, what a awful thing, break a trust to save a life, most likely far more than just one, truly a horrible horrible thing to do. (obvious sarcasm)
Did they not learn anything before when they we're trying to get Carmilla to confess she was a vampire? She told them within minutes so I'm pretty sure Maddie would've confessed to the murders if she did it. They were so focused on putting the blame on Maddie that they didn't even consider the thought of Perry possibly being possessed by someone or something. Did anyone notice how Perry's entire demeanor changed in the last episode? It went from scared/terrified to confident/you have no idea who you're talking to and what I have in store for you. I feel so bad for Carmilla....sacrifices so much and gets little in return 😢😢
+EyeNews Reactions Exactly. And until she died, Mattie said that she never killed those people. I mean, if she really did, she would have confessed because she was dying anyway. There wouldn't be any harm left to do to her if she confessed to the murders. They were so focused on putting all the blame on Mattie that it blinded them and clouded their judgment, and look what the fuck that did. And Perry is still missing and no one is even batting an eyelash about it. Plus, she was there when the newspaper kids died, and she was also already missing when news of the Summer Society people being dead came around.
*But hey, Mattie's a vampire and because of that, she's the only one capable of committing those crimes, right?
*NOTE: SARCASM
Can we talk about the god damn acting? I'm literally crying.
"I didn't think she'd kill ME."
Anyone else left with the feeling Mattie wasn't talking about Danny? Because to me it sounded hella personal (like 'The Dean did it through Perry' personal... not... directly... but remember that shady and manipulative Perry/Danny convo a while back?)
i think i’m gonna cry
+Daydreamer. well, shit.
+Daydreamer. I did cry
+Daydreamer. I AM CRYING
+Savannah steve since she started to act like laura while cried i was like "DONT CRY BBY I'M HERE FOR YOU" and then started crying like crazy
Wow...Natasha, you were AMAZING!!! Yes, my heart's broken right now...but I couldn't help but give a great big "Whoop Whoop!" for your acting! You blew it away, girl!
I loved this episode Mattie is alive and Hollstein is back together. No giraffe drama
The subtitles are underrated 🤣
Can we just stop crying for a second and give Natasha a round of applause???
"[Love Will Have Its Sacrifices...yes it certainly will]" die
Do you hear that? It's the sound of all our hearts being crushed alongside Mattie.
funny thing is it always takes me like a half hour to watch a new episode of Carmilla because I keep pausing it to scream and shout I KNEW IT if one of my theories came true and then there's all the crying and the mandatory re-watching of the episode. I just have so many emotions T^T
Well we at least got the 'I will kill' line out of the way. But still...WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE EXACT GIRAFFE SHIRT CRYING MOMENT!!! UGH!!!...Or have we? I don't think Laura was wearing her jacket in the crying picture, but then again the tears were probably brought on by this episode. Anyway, with Mattie out of the way, Carmilla is pissed and out for blood. What will this mean for our heroes? Is The Dean possessing Perry to carry out whatever plan she originally set in motion? Have all the Hollstein shippers died because of Laura's betrayal? I don't know! But I do know that you need to tune into the next episode of "The Adventures of Wanna Buffy, Warrior Sister, LaFrankenstein, F.A.B. J.P., Possessed Perry (wherever she is), Cougar Town (not anymore actually), Friendly Friend Zoner, and Carmilla: The Very PISSED OFF Lesbian Vampire" to see if our heroes can pick up the pieces. See you next Tuesgay.
What do you mean no more Cougar Town? She's still alive. I'm not in denial.
Kolar Jack *On her tombstone*
Her killer looks and sophisticated sass will always be remembered. She may have been evil, but she was always there for her sister.
+huntcd2012 I think we are all sitting around with baited breath waiting for the moment/reason behind the crying picture. I think there is more to it and we will be surprised by it!
+huntcd2012 no we still haven't gotten THE EXACT GIRAFFE SHIRT CRYING MOMENT!!! cause you're right she wasn't wearing her jacket, unless the picture was from the rehearsal....
+huntcd2012 Where did you see that line before?
"Semi-stifled useless lesbian laughter" LMFAO
SOS SOS HELP AYUDAME. THERE ARE TEARS EVERYWHERE AND I CANT STOP. FUCK. WE GOTTA WAIT 5 daYS?!?
Natasha was such a great actress!!
Just saw this mini series bout 2mos ago and literally hooked to watch this for almost 5x and subscribed to this channel.. can't wait for the movie to release!!
O.O *I watch wide eyed with my mouth covered.*
*Carmilla looks up.* My thoughts: Mmmm oh s-censor-t... OnO
Carmilla shouts "RUN!" My reaction. *Mmmmmmmmmmmmm guuuurrll!! OnO*
+Ruby Rose But then Carmilla grabbed Laura and I got all dramatic lol
+Ruby Rose Feels....feels everywhere.....
+Ruby Rose it was nearly as emotional as yang and rubys backstory in rwby ;)
I usually don't comment on videos... at all. I haven't for a long time. But... holy flippin' hell... I was not expecting the "Stay away from me... I will kill" thing so freaking early. I was expecting it to be in a few more episodes... Kudos to the cast for this scene. Now... excuse me while I curl up in the fetal position and cry.
Please excuse me while I rock back and forth in the corner of a dark room.
I'm italian. Sorry for my English. You know what? I can't sleep. Tomorrow I'll graduate and I'm so scared about my future, but here I am, at 3.00 am, watching this awesome show and just for a couple of hours, you know... I feel less lonely. Less overwhelming. Can you believe that? I can't explain things well but this is what I feel... so thank you! GRAZIE! Cast straordinario! In bocca al lupo per tutto, #KindaTv :)
"Oh, Mattie's in a different outfit in the preview, she's fine."
"Carmilla will understand that Danny needed to defend herself and Laura needed to protect her friends."
"Carm cares too much about Laura to turn her back on her."
I trusted you fandom, I trusted you.
(That said, this is a GORGEOUS breakdown, and I love Danny's retort to Carmilla [goodbye Lawstein you will be missed]. But if we get a choice between the beginning of the episode and the end, I'll pay all the money in the world for the beginning.)
And finally Carmilla tells the truth... Awesome work, love this series and how this conclusion was suggested with dialogues and tips here and there.
Would everyone please light their candles and raise their wands in this moment of silence for the greatest, most amazing and extremely loyal vampire. She told it how it is and always did it with sass. Long Live Mattie!!!
My God, I'm crying...
At the beginning of the episode I thought "Oh, everything's alright , Carmilla figured out a way to save Mattie anyway", and I was just realising that Mattie was perhaps my favourite character when the flashback ended and I watched her die with my mouth open. I really wish that Carmilla had killed Danny; I like her, but this time she's gone too far. And when Carm started freaking out... that scene was so touching, Natasha acted so WONDERFULLY that I felt my own heart breaking.
Oh my fucking god are those... are those tears? Coming out of my eyeballs?
Nope, just blood. Juuuust blood.
this is one of my favorite scenes. the flashback was so well done that it really made my stomach drop.
IS THIS THE GIRAFFE SHIRT EPISODE?!?!?
+FwnX Ooooooh no, not yet! But soon I fear...
Yes
+TotalTopHat yes it is
+FwnX yes it is Elise tweeted it
+FwnX No. I don't think Laura was wearing her jacket in the crying picture.
I love this episode. I love it when characters are at the edge. you really get to see what they're really like.
No I'm not crying there's just a giraffe in my eye
The memory of Mattie and carmila joking really hit my heart 😢
Perry killed everyone
+Sophia Molina totally
Kaitlyn subtly opening her eyes in the background during the Carmilla-Laura fight. Smooth...
Natasha tops her acting skills every new episode. Does she even have a limit?
So anyone gonna talk about how she has a different type of scream now
Which just proves my theory their scream is like the mangekyou sharingan in Naruto
Me: God?
God: yes my dear?
Me: Why must you insist on bringing me back to life just to have me killed again?
God (reveals to be Hollstein): TO WATCH YOU SUFFER!!
Six episodes left, can we make it?
XxDancingWithDemonsxX you know we can't
+Naomi Cruz If barbie's taught me anything, it's that there's "always hope". Plus, demon here. I don't get emotions. Infact, i don't know why we need yo have hope. This was a lovely episode. Perry made cookies, Laf and JP were spewing smart stuff, Maddie went on a homocidal rampage (but thats okay, vamps gotta vamp) and Hollstein were all cuddled up. And, of course , Danny rode her dinosaur. See, nothing to cry over…
XxDancingWithDemonsxX yep absolutely right! :D this episode was nothing but happy moments and sunshines, lollipops and rainbows
+Naomi Cruz Just on giant ball of fluff. #NotInDenialAgain
Anyone else notice that when Carmilla said "Stay away from me" that the camera shook like when Mattie did her shriek in the earlier episodes
*slow clap* Natasha's acting though... Holy crap..
At (4:43) Laura reminds me of Karma from FAKING IT soooo much
NATASHAS ACTING THO OMG
I've been drinking since Wednesday and my hangover still doesn't hurt as much as this episode.
FUCK NATASHAS ACTING FUCKING KILLED JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS AMAZING
I still cry after millions time watching this episode. That's how great Negovanman acting is.