Agree it is SO important to know that Pionus parrots are known to be quiet COMPARED to other parrots. Parrots are loud, so even a quiet parrot is a loud parrot. There may be exceptions but this is a good general point to understand.
Charlie is beautiful and such a sweet bird. I recently saw a Pionus advertised in my area here in the US for $4500.00. You were very lucky to pay such a reasonable price for her.
In america there are like 2 breeders for Pionus so the prices are very high. That's actually higher than average, they average 3000, but the websites for the Pionus breeders online are completely down (I just checked). In areas such as the UK Pionus will be much more affordable.
@@Christian-cv5rwcan you recommend any breeders for bronze winged in Germany? I’m looking to get a pair next year and I have only found the parrot park in Bochum that have them
I have become the owner of a female eclectus parrot. I always wanted a parrot but it was not in my price range. I was at my moms house and heard a bird sound I had never heard before. We looked up and there was this beautiful red parrot. I held out my hand and she flew down to me. She had no band on so I took her to several exotic vets and left my number with them and also with animal control. I also checked every form of social media (still check regularly) and never found the owner. I named her skittles and she is SO smart and has already learned so many tricks and words. The vet feels she is about 5yrs old and based on condition she more than likely had been out for a while. Since the owner has still not made contact anywhere the vet actually thinks she may have been intentionally released. I just can’t imagine paying so much for an eclectus (in my area they are about $2000-$4500 depending on where you get them from) just to let her go. But she will be well loved and have a LONG life here on our farm and I am watching many videos about parrots to learn how to best care for her. If her owner ever popped up she will be healthy for them (provided they could prove they are her owner!!)
What a sweet story! She is so lucky to have landed with you, and I'm glad you did exactly the right thing and took her to vets and is now doing research :) Best of luck with her, I hope you could use some of the tips :)
I've had my Maxi Pionus for 13 years, and she is an absolute dream. I live in an apartment, and she only gets loud when I'm vacuuming. We used to have some fights in the past, but now we respect each other's boundaries, and things are great. She can speak about seven phrases/words, most of which are in context. These phrases include "I want to go night-night," "Shake off the water," her name, my name, "hello," "good girl," "are you okay," "I want to go to the cage," and she even waves and says "goodbye". I work from home, so we spend a lot of time together. I believe that the more time you spend with your pet, the better behaved they are. It's just like any good relationship - you have to invest the time.
That's awesome! Usually when I hear about Pi's talking it's the males, but this again goes to show that every bird is different :) She sounds like such a well behaved bird!
This is so playful! Thanks a lot! I never owned a parrot or bird and have been doing research on all species available. However Pionus parrots seem to bot be talked about a lot and there's very few educational content about them online. Thankfully, this goes straight to the point and your efforts in english are commendable. Great stuff
Another wonderful video. I am a viewer from the US. I can’t afford a Pionus at this time so I get to enjoy Charlie with the fantastic added bonus of you, Stella. Thank you for the very insightful and fun videos!
Just a few days ago found your old video,. And this one is serious next level. 👌 We have a Pionus since 2 days and other than my smaller birds (pyrrhura, forpus, etc.) I give him big parts of veggies and a bit fruit. I see he enjoys making a chop of it himself😉
You beat me to it again 😂 great video Stella, glad to see you're both doing well! (Just FYI, there's 8 species) you should of asked for a scream example. I have plenty of Quaffle you could of borrowed haha
Thank you Ashley! I actually had Quaffle (and one other) in mind with those high pitch noices lol, and just overall for the ones that maybe don't fit the stereo type with noice. I can see that some sources say 7 and others 8, but I was maybe too quick there ;)
@@stellaandcharlie I'm going to be doing a video specifically about the 8 different species and how to tell them apart. If I ever get a day off to give me chance to make it 😄
Hi Stella, as a beginner i must say one of the best videos. Hope you have time to response. Would a Pionus be alright with being out side of the cage most of the time and just in there cage for eating and sleeping? Also would a old(cleaned) would terrarium work? 120 x 60 x 60? Made of course out of wood with a glass front? Got 1000 more questions haha but yeah YT might not be the place for it.
Hiii! Thank you so much, I would love to answer as many questions as possible! Being outside the cage is most of the time just a plus in terms of exercise and activities, just remember to also give the bird some cage time here and there so that the cage doesn't become a place where the play stops or where it's boring, in case they need to be home alone (just a nice habit to create from the start). It's more or so the quality of time they are out than the quantity, but of course time outside as much as possible is a good thing :) I would care a little with wood cages, they can of course be fine, but I know that Charlie and a lot of birds like to use the bars for climbing around and navigating in the cage. It's also easier in general to apply different perches and rearrange toys in a metal cage. Another concern could be humidity and cleaning of the wood. Furthermore if it's glass in front aswell as wood all around it could get very difficult to get proper air ventilation, and ammonia from the poop could make it a very unhealthy environment, especially for the bird to sleep in, so personally I would stick to stainless steel cages, although some wood cages can work :) Hope that answered the question!
@@stellaandcharlie hi Stella, wow wasn’t expecting a answer. Thanks for this. Ill scratch the old terrarium of my ideas. I am just someone who likes to build things. But what you say about the cage’s design makes allot of sense. Ill have a look at cost for a bird cage. Right its like crate training for a dog. So he/she should feel safe in and outside of they cage. Might be a weird question but are all bird (captive) clipt (unable to fly) if why is this? If i decide to not do this what could happen? So you might of touched this subject if my wife and i would like 2 birds would this harm the humans bonding? Thanks
@@Junglecp No problem! Wing clipping is really not something anyone should do, birds are made to fly, it's how they exercise and how they move around. Clipping is done because some think that the bird will be more tame since it can't fly away, but it's just learned helplessness and happens because the bird can't escape. Others do it to prevent the bird from flying into things or away from them, as "safety", but this is untrue. The bird will learn to fly and learn it's environment, to take the ability away takes away their confidence aswell. Furthermore birds can and will fly if they get spooked, even if clipped, but it just becomes more dangerous for them since they can't steer while clipped. So in short, don't clip, ever :) In terms of bonding, it's difficult to say, but think about it again like a puppy. The bird might prefer you or your wife, but if you both interact with them and get them use to both of you being there, then I'm sure they will accept both of you, and this goes for one, two, three and so on birds. They get something from having each other that we can't give them, so I think it's a great idea to get two, I just can't guarantee that your "wife's bird" will 100% be your "wife's bird" or if will prefer you (and the other way around), it's individual :)
@@stellaandcharlie so with the bonding part, i can imagine for the bird it would be such a lovely thing to not be alone. But what you say it might or might not hurt the human boding. How are birds with adding a later friend to the flock? If i do wish to make they cage itself any YT video recommendations? Any breeder recommendations? Am based in Holland. Thanks again Stella
@@Junglecp I think if you search up something like "will getting another bird hurt the human bonding" then posts from reddit and other places will show up with someone having experience answering, cause I'm really not sure... With the cage it's the same, but you can keep in mind what I said when researching of course :) Basically anything with wood frames and metal bars would be fine, the ventilation and bottom material is what I would think extra about in terms of cleaning aswell. Also keep in mind the tallness in regards to what I said about cages in the video ;) I think we are getting onto topics I don't have much experience with, but if I should say anything, then I have read from others that human bonding and bird bonding is two seperate things and that it won't hurt. In other cases I have read that it actually benefitted the human bonding, but again, I'm not sure.
Thank you for your video. I have one question. What does a "perfect poop" look like? And my bird used to bully me to get my human food. What is your take on that?
Extremely informative. I've only ever had Finches and Budgies. I do live in an apartment building so just looking at possible 'low noise' larger birds. I'm in no rush, just learning as much as I can for now. Thank you from Toronto, Canada for this info. Subscribed now too. :)
Thank you Pete! I hope it helped, and I'm so glad to hear you're doing reseach before getting one :D And thanks for the sub aswell, it's much appreciated :)
My blue-headed pionus is very quiet and does NOT like a noisy environment. If I am having guests over or if I have the TV on, I put my pionus in another room. I can tell if my bird is upset by noise because he has a certain scream.
Hi Andre! The cage is the Montana Madeira series. I bought mine through a German parrot shop, but you should be able to find it elsewhere since Montana is all over the place :) www.parrotshop.de/en/bird/cages-aviaries/parakeet-cages-more/12161/birdcage-madeira-single-antik-by-montana-cages
Hi Stella. Lovely video, thank you for all the info! Ive been trying to source a bronze winged in europe for some time. Could you help me with finding some breeders? Maybe any in Denmark you would recommend? Thank you so much :)
Hello..a bh pionus baby will be weaned very soon...i have to travel 6 hrs to get him...I noticed the backpack..is that a Bird Tricks Ibiyana pack?.. if not..could you recommend?
How exciting! Yes it is the Bird Tricks track pack, and I actually made a full review on it here on the channel... but in short, yes, I totally recommend it ;)
Thank you for the video! I have a blue headed Pi as well (for 1.5 years now) and it helped me with some things :) I have a question - did you teach Charlie to eat chop, or did she enjoy it from the start? My Osiris doesn't touch chop at all. He likes veggies in bigger pieces that he can hold and munch on. The problem is that he only eats the veg he likes, leaving the rest in the bowl.
Charlie will not eat it right when I serve it, hoping to get some treats or pellets instead, BUT she will always eat whenever I ignore her long enough and she realizes I wont give her anything else. So you could say she enjoyed it from the start, but I would try and just let it be, even for some hours. If she knows that it is etable food, I think she will eventually eat it when she gets hungry, but you can always check out some of the guides on BirdTricks website, they are completly free, and give some very good tips :D
Fresh veggies and fruits are better than vitamin “infused” cardboard. LOL I am going to the Atlanta airport tomorrow to pick up my new blue-headed pionus. It’s a male, but I don’t want to give him a name until I have a chance to get to know him.
Hello...i purchased the pack and went to get Watson. bh pionus , saturday...19wks and he rode 6hrs with no troubles...😁 I know you like Tops food...is this for both seed and pellets..?.. could you recommend?... he has already been testing fresh..apple , carrot , pear...very exciting time 😊
HI!!, I’ve been wanting a pionus maximillian for about a month and had been doing a whole bunch of research. I also would like to mention that I own a male cockatiel and I’m not sure if that would be a good fit because of the size difference and personality and beak size, what are your opinions on this situation? I’m open to hear some feedback and I would really would like to hear from your point of view. I would also like to say that I am in between of deciding if I should get a sun conure, a green cheek conure or a pionus parrot, I love all of those parrots but I’m mostly looking if it’s a right fit for my cockatiel so he won’t be harmed in any way. Thank you in advance for the information you might give 🙏🙏💓!.
I would ask around on the different bird groups if I were you, they are usually super sweet and many have exactly these species mixed together :D USUALLY what I hear (cause I also considered a green cheek for Charlie), is that Pionus are very low energy compared to cockatiels and conures and therefor they can end up getting a bit annoyed. Pionus are generally hard to bond with other species, but it depends on the individual :) I don't hear often that they are aggressive towards other birds, but rather that they just don't care much about them and does they're own thing.
They can indeed be potty trained! Figuring out when they poop, and then placing them where you want them to followed by a treat can do wonders, but it is a hard process. I clean Charlies cage every other to third day, but clean up whenever she poops outside the cage to keep my space clean :) Hope it helped!
I notice you’re very responsive to many of your comments; and I’m looking for a bit of advice. I myself am a vet student, and am seriously considering becoming a practitioner of avian medicine in the future. Because of this, I want to get some husbandry experience underneath my belt with avians and am looking for a good species to keep. I want a bird that will fit a schedule where I can be gone or mentally absent for 30min-2 hr blocks, but still require a moderate amount of physical and mental investment. I’ve been looking into pionus, or maybe conures and parrotlets? Specifically the two that seem most appealing to me so far are green cheek conures and pionus parrots. I would have at least a solid hour to give in undivided mental attention, and at the most 3.5 or more. Since this is a goal I plan to meet in the next 1-2 years, money isn’t as much of a concern but is still something I am factoring into the equation. I’m also pretty noise tolerant (my partner as a budgie that talks nonstop, so there’s always a warble in the background) but really shrill shrieks for long periods can really stress me out. Do you have any thoughts? Any other comments feel free to give your thoughts as well
Hi Void! I totally get the dilemma, cause I've been there myself.... I can't say I have experience with Conures, but I'll gladly share why I ended up choosing Pi's and the differences I know of. So based on what you write, I actually think it comes down to what you condition the bird too (wether it's a conure or pionus), since its all in the routines. Training and desensitizing to a routine where you can leave for those hours aswell as the attention you can provide. I will say however than while a lot can be trained the "stereo types" can be used as a guide to what will be easier for the bird to adapt too. For example the Pi might have an easier time entertaining itself, while conures (while still trainable to tolorate it more) usually require more of your attention. As for what is the "species norm" in those two species I have a list of what my impression is: - Pi are more chill, while Conure are more energetic - Conure are more outgoing, where Pi's are more reserved - Conure wants to be involved more, where Pi's dont mind having alone time - Conure are more playfull, Pi's would rather chill - Conure are more cuddly, while Pi's arent as touchy feely So it depends on what you want in a bird - A playfull snuggle buddy (then I would go conure), or a chill "just following along" companion (then Pi's might be better). But again, the indivual and the routines you give them have more to say in my opinion. Noice wise, I've heard "quiet" conures and loud Pi's and vers visa, so thats a difficult one... My next video is on routines, and exactly what you can do to make life "easier" owning bird, so you can maybe get some more questions answered there aswell. I hope that helped, else feel free to ask away :D
Great video thank you. Trying to get hold of one currently in the UK, Midlands. Any we find are 2.5 hours away and all cost around £900. Do you possibly have any links to the cages you showed images of, and can you reccomend anywhere good to start looking for them in the UK please? Thank you
Hi! All the cages I showed are from a German website, but you can definitely go and check out the names of the different cage types, since many are Montana cages and are sold by other shops: www.parrotshop.de/en/ Good luck of your search, I hope it was helpfull :)
@@stellaandcharlie We got one by the way. Total setup cost me around 2 grand. grand for the bird, 500 for the cage and then 500 on toys, accessories, food etc. shes about 5 months old.
Thx! I’m very interested in the pionus and the green cheek conure. 😊 I’ve been researching on both and I’m trying to figure which one is the best one for me. I used to own a sun conure for a couple of years since it was a few months old. Very beautiful bird but very loud and demanded lots of attention. It flew away at our new home while we were in the process of moving because my husband left the cage and the front door open as we were moving our things in. I think it freaked out! 💔😭 We didn’t clip his wings because he would always fly back to us at our old home and we wanted to give him that freedom. We searched and searched and no luck of finding him.😭 We live in the U.S. so finding a pionus would be much harder than finding a green cheek. 😕
I completely get that dilemma, I've been there so many times before getting Charlie and now when considering a friend I'm again back to the green cheeks. So sorry to hear about your sun conure, but I'm happy his wings were not clipped, I'm sure you had such a great companionship and these things unfortunately just happen some time :( I hope you find your Pi in the US, but I get the dilemma, especially when they are so hard to find, best of luck :D
Green cheeks are very nippy and can draw blood. They are slightly less loud than a Sun Conure comparing to the pitch of their voice. But they can be quiet when full. I have a GCC. They can be difficult to train due to being so bitey and hating hands. Their bite feels like a pinch. I love my GCC though. I just got him more than a week ago. I have no clue how to stop him from biting me.
@@Featheryfaith7 If you just got him I think thats a big contribute to the biting behavior since he needs to know you a bit better and settle in. The GCC I have heard of are cuddly and playfull, but therefor also more needy, but this again shows the individuality in the birds. Best of luck with him, if you can read the body signal before a bite and avoid it, I would just give it more time, and I'm sure he will warm up to you :)
@@stellaandcharlie I have met GCC owners and they told me they will always bite even if they know you or not. Hopefully, he will reduce the biting soon. He has been flying to me and land on my shoulder many times. He could just be very hormonal or territorial. In other places like on the floor, he aint that bitey. Oh well, thank you for commenting. 😊
Hi Stella, I hope you could advise me. I've adopted a 4 months old Pionus Parrot. At the beginning I did things wrong (grab her from the back, forced her to eat, lots of crushes... :( So now she is freaking out of me. Every time I open the door of the cage, she climbs to the other side trying to scape from me. The breeder told me that I should grab her everyday and put her on my arm, and as many times as she flights off, repeat the process until she understand I am of not danger, but It isn't working, she is even more afraid every time. She sometimes flights off scared and smashes with the window (I am buying stickers) What should I do? Is It posible to gain her confidence or is it no longer possible? Should I just wait her to approach me? She doesn't even accept treats from me... If you could advise on what would you do I would appreciate very much.
HI! Thank you so much for reaching out :) I would definitely say that you have been advised wrongly here unfortunatly. Forcing an animal to do something until they accept it is called "learned helplessness", since they dont "learn that the thing isnt scary" but rather "learn to give up" if that makes sense. Even though it may have back tracked your relationship I would never say that it's too late, but it is gonna take some time :) If you emagine that she now sees your hand as a bad thing (cause of the grabing), she first needs to see it as a neutral thing (hand does nothing), and then a good thing (hand = treats). What I would do to get to the neutral state is simply show her the hand (at a distance at first), and if she dosent react you can bring it closer and closer and so on. When/if she reacts I would keep the hand on that threshold until she relaxes, and then remove the hand as a reward for the calm behavior. So if it makes sense: First get the hand to a neutral state by getting your hand as close as possible until she reacts, then rewarding her for staying calm by removing the hand. Second, when the hand is less of a threat you can put it beside her or try and put treats in it (now the reward for accepting the hand is the treats). I really hope it makes sense, but remember that it can take mounths between these steps, and some days will be better than others. But in short, yes, let her come to you and build trust that way. Best of luck :D
@@stellaandcharlie thank you very much for taking The time to answer! I will try what you told me and have patience. I hope some day I could have her tamed and bonded (not only for me, but for her own well being!). Thank you again for your answer and your videos!
Hej Alex! Du må undskylde det sene svar, men jeg kan se du har fået hjælp inde på en af grupperne, og jeg kender kun én som jeg ved du er blevet anbefalet/har fået viden om, så held og lykke med søgningen :D
Hola. Yo tengo un pionus Senil de 2 años. Habla algunas palabras La cabeza Todavía no la tiene toda blanca. Tiene plumas verdes entremedio de lo blanco . Mi pregunta es, cuando tendra el plumaje Definitivo ??
It does sound weird that he/she is still doesn't have the "white crown" at two years old. It could be a possibility that you have a hybrid of some sort, but I of course can't be sure just from description alone. Feel free to send a picture via the email on the channel, and I'll be glad to take a look :) Have a great day!
I'm trying to find a recommendation for lamps for birds. I thought it was this video that she highly recommended one, but I can't find it. Does anyone know of one or another TH-camr that highly recommended a proper lamp? Thank you!
Hey Sarah! I'm working on a "birds and winter" video, I'll gladly keep it in mind and tell what I know about bird lamps as well as finding some to recommend :))
@@MovingFelix-bs2bm hmm I don't know of anyone sadly, only that the breeder I got Charlie from sold his pairs to someone in Sweden. It's an old website, but here is where I found mine: Pionus.dk As mentioned he doesn't breed anymore, but you could try and contact the Swedish one in there :) GL!
Great video but you should have made a point of discouraging ownership. Truth is, larger parrots should not be kept as pets. They are too intelligent and live way too long. Also, most people are just not prepared and capable of maintaining the commitment and duty of care for their birds entire life. If you are for example 30 years old and buy a parrot who is going to take care of it when you yourself get old or depart this world? A larger parrot will have lived only half of its lifespan. Pionous don't live as long as the bigger birds but 30-40 years is still very very long. It is best to refrain if one can from buying a parrot. If you must buy then buy a tiny shorter lived parrotlet or budgie or similar. They can be fun too.
Love your videos! I was set on a Pionus, but decided on a female Cape Parrot - through lots of research, I found that I am a more perfect fit for a female Cape… Really diving into each species is imperative when deciding which type of bird to share a lifetime with. She’s been a part of our family for about five months - we are so bonded, and truly are two birds of a feather!🪶 ❤🪶❤️
Agree it is SO important to know that Pionus parrots are known to be quiet COMPARED to other parrots. Parrots are loud, so even a quiet parrot is a loud parrot. There may be exceptions but this is a good general point to understand.
Charlie is beautiful and such a sweet bird. I recently saw a Pionus advertised in my area here in the US for $4500.00. You were very lucky to pay such a reasonable price for her.
In america there are like 2 breeders for Pionus so the prices are very high. That's actually higher than average, they average 3000, but the websites for the Pionus breeders online are completely down (I just checked). In areas such as the UK Pionus will be much more affordable.
In Germany you can find Bronze Wings for 500€ and Maximilian sometimes for 200 bugs
@@Christian-cv5rwcan you recommend any breeders for bronze winged in Germany? I’m looking to get a pair next year and I have only found the parrot park in Bochum that have them
I have become the owner of a female eclectus parrot. I always wanted a parrot but it was not in my price range. I was at my moms house and heard a bird sound I had never heard before. We looked up and there was this beautiful red parrot. I held out my hand and she flew down to me. She had no band on so I took her to several exotic vets and left my number with them and also with animal control. I also checked every form of social media (still check regularly) and never found the owner. I named her skittles and she is SO smart and has already learned so many tricks and words. The vet feels she is about 5yrs old and based on condition she more than likely had been out for a while. Since the owner has still not made contact anywhere the vet actually thinks she may have been intentionally released. I just can’t imagine paying so much for an eclectus (in my area they are about $2000-$4500 depending on where you get them from) just to let her go. But she will be well loved and have a LONG life here on our farm and I am watching many videos about parrots to learn how to best care for her. If her owner ever popped up she will be healthy for them (provided they could prove they are her owner!!)
What a sweet story!
She is so lucky to have landed with you, and I'm glad you did exactly the right thing and took her to vets and is now doing research :)
Best of luck with her, I hope you could use some of the tips :)
I've had my Maxi Pionus for 13 years, and she is an absolute dream. I live in an apartment, and she only gets loud when I'm vacuuming. We used to have some fights in the past, but now we respect each other's boundaries, and things are great. She can speak about seven phrases/words, most of which are in context. These phrases include "I want to go night-night," "Shake off the water," her name, my name, "hello," "good girl," "are you okay," "I want to go to the cage," and she even waves and says "goodbye". I work from home, so we spend a lot of time together. I believe that the more time you spend with your pet, the better behaved they are. It's just like any good relationship - you have to invest the time.
That's awesome! Usually when I hear about Pi's talking it's the males, but this again goes to show that every bird is different :)
She sounds like such a well behaved bird!
Hi dear you tell all and thanks,but not 1 word about it talk! Why???
im sorry i dont understand your question.@@debbystar100
This is so playful! Thanks a lot! I never owned a parrot or bird and have been doing research on all species available. However Pionus parrots seem to bot be talked about a lot and there's very few educational content about them online. Thankfully, this goes straight to the point and your efforts in english are commendable. Great stuff
Thank you so much for the nice words Anne, I'm glad you liked it :D
Thanks! I really enjoyed this. You were very informative and easy to listen too. And your bird is adorable. 💙
Oh my, thank you so much Donna I really appreciate it, thank you thank you
Delightful video, nice voice, excellent English. Great all-around information. Thank You!
Thank you for this video! I am just starting to think about keeping a bird, and this has been really helpful in combing through my options
Another wonderful video. I am a viewer from the US. I can’t afford a Pionus at this time so I get to enjoy Charlie with the fantastic added bonus of you, Stella.
Thank you for the very insightful and fun videos!
Just a few days ago found your old video,. And this one is serious next level. 👌
We have a Pionus since 2 days and other than my smaller birds (pyrrhura, forpus, etc.) I give him big parts of veggies and a bit fruit.
I see he enjoys making a chop of it himself😉
I'm so glad to hear that, thank you!
And best of luck with him :D
Thank you Stella for sharing this wonderful video!
Excellent video, new subscriber 💜👌👏👏👏
Great video with many, many useful informations! Thank you for this update!
You beat me to it again 😂 great video Stella, glad to see you're both doing well! (Just FYI, there's 8 species) you should of asked for a scream example. I have plenty of Quaffle you could of borrowed haha
Thank you Ashley!
I actually had Quaffle (and one other) in mind with those high pitch noices lol, and just overall for the ones that maybe don't fit the stereo type with noice. I can see that some sources say 7 and others 8, but I was maybe too quick there ;)
@@stellaandcharlie I'm going to be doing a video specifically about the 8 different species and how to tell them apart. If I ever get a day off to give me chance to make it 😄
@@PionusTales Uh how awsome! I will look forward to hearing about them, especially those that aren't domesticated :)
I have an baby blue headed ❤
Hi Stella, as a beginner i must say one of the best videos. Hope you have time to response. Would a Pionus be alright with being out side of the cage most of the time and just in there cage for eating and sleeping? Also would a old(cleaned) would terrarium work? 120 x 60 x 60? Made of course out of wood with a glass front?
Got 1000 more questions haha but yeah YT might not be the place for it.
Hiii!
Thank you so much, I would love to answer as many questions as possible!
Being outside the cage is most of the time just a plus in terms of exercise and activities, just remember to also give the bird some cage time here and there so that the cage doesn't become a place where the play stops or where it's boring, in case they need to be home alone (just a nice habit to create from the start). It's more or so the quality of time they are out than the quantity, but of course time outside as much as possible is a good thing :)
I would care a little with wood cages, they can of course be fine, but I know that Charlie and a lot of birds like to use the bars for climbing around and navigating in the cage. It's also easier in general to apply different perches and rearrange toys in a metal cage. Another concern could be humidity and cleaning of the wood. Furthermore if it's glass in front aswell as wood all around it could get very difficult to get proper air ventilation, and ammonia from the poop could make it a very unhealthy environment, especially for the bird to sleep in, so personally I would stick to stainless steel cages, although some wood cages can work :)
Hope that answered the question!
@@stellaandcharlie hi Stella, wow wasn’t expecting a answer. Thanks for this. Ill scratch the old terrarium of my ideas. I am just someone who likes to build things. But what you say about the cage’s design makes allot of sense.
Ill have a look at cost for a bird cage.
Right its like crate training for a dog. So he/she should feel safe in and outside of they cage.
Might be a weird question but are all bird (captive) clipt (unable to fly) if why is this? If i decide to not do this what could happen?
So you might of touched this subject if my wife and i would like 2 birds would this harm the humans bonding?
Thanks
@@Junglecp
No problem!
Wing clipping is really not something anyone should do, birds are made to fly, it's how they exercise and how they move around. Clipping is done because some think that the bird will be more tame since it can't fly away, but it's just learned helplessness and happens because the bird can't escape.
Others do it to prevent the bird from flying into things or away from them, as "safety", but this is untrue. The bird will learn to fly and learn it's environment, to take the ability away takes away their confidence aswell. Furthermore birds can and will fly if they get spooked, even if clipped, but it just becomes more dangerous for them since they can't steer while clipped.
So in short, don't clip, ever :)
In terms of bonding, it's difficult to say, but think about it again like a puppy. The bird might prefer you or your wife, but if you both interact with them and get them use to both of you being there, then I'm sure they will accept both of you, and this goes for one, two, three and so on birds.
They get something from having each other that we can't give them, so I think it's a great idea to get two, I just can't guarantee that your "wife's bird" will 100% be your "wife's bird" or if will prefer you (and the other way around), it's individual :)
@@stellaandcharlie so with the bonding part, i can imagine for the bird it would be such a lovely thing to not be alone. But what you say it might or might not hurt the human boding. How are birds with adding a later friend to the flock?
If i do wish to make they cage itself any YT video recommendations?
Any breeder recommendations? Am based in Holland.
Thanks again Stella
@@Junglecp I think if you search up something like "will getting another bird hurt the human bonding" then posts from reddit and other places will show up with someone having experience answering, cause I'm really not sure...
With the cage it's the same, but you can keep in mind what I said when researching of course :)
Basically anything with wood frames and metal bars would be fine, the ventilation and bottom material is what I would think extra about in terms of cleaning aswell. Also keep in mind the tallness in regards to what I said about cages in the video ;)
I think we are getting onto topics I don't have much experience with, but if I should say anything, then I have read from others that human bonding and bird bonding is two seperate things and that it won't hurt. In other cases I have read that it actually benefitted the human bonding, but again, I'm not sure.
Thank you for your video. I have one question. What does a "perfect poop" look like? And my bird used to bully me to get my human food. What is your take on that?
Extremely informative. I've only ever had Finches and Budgies. I do live in an apartment building so just looking at possible 'low noise' larger birds. I'm in no rush, just learning as much as I can for now. Thank you from Toronto, Canada for this info. Subscribed now too. :)
Thank you Pete! I hope it helped, and I'm so glad to hear you're doing reseach before getting one :D
And thanks for the sub aswell, it's much appreciated :)
My blue-headed pionus is very quiet and does NOT like a noisy environment. If I am having guests over or if I have the TV on, I put my pionus in another room. I can tell if my bird is upset by noise because he has a certain scream.
great video, where did you buy the cage?
Hi Andre! The cage is the Montana Madeira series. I bought mine through a German parrot shop, but you should be able to find it elsewhere since Montana is all over the place :)
www.parrotshop.de/en/bird/cages-aviaries/parakeet-cages-more/12161/birdcage-madeira-single-antik-by-montana-cages
Thanks for the info!
Hi Stella. Lovely video, thank you for all the info! Ive been trying to source a bronze winged in europe for some time. Could you help me with finding some breeders? Maybe any in Denmark you would recommend? Thank you so much :)
Hello..a bh pionus baby will be weaned very soon...i have to travel 6 hrs to get him...I noticed the backpack..is that a Bird Tricks Ibiyana pack?.. if not..could you recommend?
How exciting!
Yes it is the Bird Tricks track pack, and I actually made a full review on it here on the channel... but in short, yes, I totally recommend it ;)
Thanks!...yea..Im one of those that paid , " gulp "...well...alot...and it was rather difficult to find....cant wait for the afventure to begin...!
Thank you for the video! I have a blue headed Pi as well (for 1.5 years now) and it helped me with some things :)
I have a question - did you teach Charlie to eat chop, or did she enjoy it from the start? My Osiris doesn't touch chop at all. He likes veggies in bigger pieces that he can hold and munch on. The problem is that he only eats the veg he likes, leaving the rest in the bowl.
Charlie will not eat it right when I serve it, hoping to get some treats or pellets instead, BUT she will always eat whenever I ignore her long enough and she realizes I wont give her anything else.
So you could say she enjoyed it from the start, but I would try and just let it be, even for some hours. If she knows that it is etable food, I think she will eventually eat it when she gets hungry, but you can always check out some of the guides on BirdTricks website, they are completly free, and give some very good tips :D
Amazing video! Thank you for all the information!
PS: You spelled "noise" wrong, not that it matters in any way
Fresh veggies and fruits are better than vitamin “infused” cardboard. LOL
I am going to the Atlanta airport tomorrow to pick up my new blue-headed pionus. It’s a male, but I don’t want to give him a name until I have a chance to get to know him.
Hello...i purchased the pack and went to get Watson. bh pionus , saturday...19wks and he rode 6hrs with no troubles...😁
I know you like Tops food...is this for both seed and pellets..?.. could you recommend?... he has already been testing fresh..apple , carrot , pear...very exciting time 😊
HI!!, I’ve been wanting a pionus maximillian for about a month and had been doing a whole bunch of research. I also would like to mention that I own a male cockatiel and I’m not sure if that would be a good fit because of the size difference and personality and beak size, what are your opinions on this situation? I’m open to hear some feedback and I would really would like to hear from your point of view. I would also like to say that I am in between of deciding if I should get a sun conure, a green cheek conure or a pionus parrot, I love all of those parrots but I’m mostly looking if it’s a right fit for my cockatiel so he won’t be harmed in any way. Thank you in advance for the information you might give 🙏🙏💓!.
I would ask around on the different bird groups if I were you, they are usually super sweet and many have exactly these species mixed together :D
USUALLY what I hear (cause I also considered a green cheek for Charlie), is that Pionus are very low energy compared to cockatiels and conures and therefor they can end up getting a bit annoyed. Pionus are generally hard to bond with other species, but it depends on the individual :)
I don't hear often that they are aggressive towards other birds, but rather that they just don't care much about them and does they're own thing.
Hi! Loved the video, subscribed :) Can they be potty-trained?
Also, how and how often do you clean Charlie's cage?
They can indeed be potty trained!
Figuring out when they poop, and then placing them where you want them to followed by a treat can do wonders, but it is a hard process.
I clean Charlies cage every other to third day, but clean up whenever she poops outside the cage to keep my space clean :)
Hope it helped!
I notice you’re very responsive to many of your comments; and I’m looking for a bit of advice. I myself am a vet student, and am seriously considering becoming a practitioner of avian medicine in the future. Because of this, I want to get some husbandry experience underneath my belt with avians and am looking for a good species to keep. I want a bird that will fit a schedule where I can be gone or mentally absent for 30min-2 hr blocks, but still require a moderate amount of physical and mental investment. I’ve been looking into pionus, or maybe conures and parrotlets? Specifically the two that seem most appealing to me so far are green cheek conures and pionus parrots. I would have at least a solid hour to give in undivided mental attention, and at the most 3.5 or more. Since this is a goal I plan to meet in the next 1-2 years, money isn’t as much of a concern but is still something I am factoring into the equation. I’m also pretty noise tolerant (my partner as a budgie that talks nonstop, so there’s always a warble in the background) but really shrill shrieks for long periods can really stress me out. Do you have any thoughts? Any other comments feel free to give your thoughts as well
Hi Void!
I totally get the dilemma, cause I've been there myself....
I can't say I have experience with Conures, but I'll gladly share why I ended up choosing Pi's and the differences I know of.
So based on what you write, I actually think it comes down to what you condition the bird too (wether it's a conure or pionus), since its all in the routines. Training and desensitizing to a routine where you can leave for those hours aswell as the attention you can provide. I will say however than while a lot can be trained the "stereo types" can be used as a guide to what will be easier for the bird to adapt too. For example the Pi might have an easier time entertaining itself, while conures (while still trainable to tolorate it more) usually require more of your attention.
As for what is the "species norm" in those two species I have a list of what my impression is:
- Pi are more chill, while Conure are more energetic
- Conure are more outgoing, where Pi's are more reserved
- Conure wants to be involved more, where Pi's dont mind having alone time
- Conure are more playfull, Pi's would rather chill
- Conure are more cuddly, while Pi's arent as touchy feely
So it depends on what you want in a bird - A playfull snuggle buddy (then I would go conure), or a chill "just following along" companion (then Pi's might be better). But again, the indivual and the routines you give them have more to say in my opinion. Noice wise, I've heard "quiet" conures and loud Pi's and vers visa, so thats a difficult one...
My next video is on routines, and exactly what you can do to make life "easier" owning bird, so you can maybe get some more questions answered there aswell. I hope that helped, else feel free to ask away :D
Great video thank you. Trying to get hold of one currently in the UK, Midlands. Any we find are 2.5 hours away and all cost around £900.
Do you possibly have any links to the cages you showed images of, and can you reccomend anywhere good to start looking for them in the UK please? Thank you
Hi!
All the cages I showed are from a German website, but you can definitely go and check out the names of the different cage types, since many are Montana cages and are sold by other shops: www.parrotshop.de/en/
Good luck of your search, I hope it was helpfull :)
@@stellaandcharlie We got one by the way. Total setup cost me around 2 grand. grand for the bird, 500 for the cage and then 500 on toys, accessories, food etc. shes about 5 months old.
That's awesome, I'm so happy for you :D
Hope she is everything you hoped for
Thx! I’m very interested in the pionus and the green cheek conure. 😊
I’ve been researching on both and I’m trying to figure which one is the best one for me.
I used to own a sun conure for a couple of years since it was a few months old. Very beautiful bird but very loud and demanded lots of attention. It flew away at our new home while we were in the process of moving because my husband left the cage and the front door open as we were moving our things in.
I think it freaked out! 💔😭
We didn’t clip his wings because he would always fly back to us at our old home and we wanted to give him that freedom.
We searched and searched and no luck of finding him.😭
We live in the U.S. so finding a pionus would be much harder than finding a green cheek. 😕
I completely get that dilemma, I've been there so many times before getting Charlie and now when considering a friend I'm again back to the green cheeks.
So sorry to hear about your sun conure, but I'm happy his wings were not clipped, I'm sure you had such a great companionship and these things unfortunately just happen some time :(
I hope you find your Pi in the US, but I get the dilemma, especially when they are so hard to find, best of luck :D
Green cheeks are very nippy and can draw blood. They are slightly less loud than a Sun Conure comparing to the pitch of their voice. But they can be quiet when full. I have a GCC. They can be difficult to train due to being so bitey and hating hands. Their bite feels like a pinch. I love my GCC though. I just got him more than a week ago. I have no clue how to stop him from biting me.
@@Featheryfaith7 If you just got him I think thats a big contribute to the biting behavior since he needs to know you a bit better and settle in.
The GCC I have heard of are cuddly and playfull, but therefor also more needy, but this again shows the individuality in the birds.
Best of luck with him, if you can read the body signal before a bite and avoid it, I would just give it more time, and I'm sure he will warm up to you :)
@@stellaandcharlie I have met GCC owners and they told me they will always bite even if they know you or not. Hopefully, he will reduce the biting soon. He has been flying to me and land on my shoulder many times. He could just be very hormonal or territorial. In other places like on the floor, he aint that bitey. Oh well, thank you for commenting. 😊
Hi Stella, I hope you could advise me. I've adopted a 4 months old Pionus Parrot. At the beginning I did things wrong (grab her from the back, forced her to eat, lots of crushes... :( So now she is freaking out of me. Every time I open the door of the cage, she climbs to the other side trying to scape from me. The breeder told me that I should grab her everyday and put her on my arm, and as many times as she flights off, repeat the process until she understand I am of not danger, but It isn't working, she is even more afraid every time. She sometimes flights off scared and smashes with the window (I am buying stickers)
What should I do? Is It posible to gain her confidence or is it no longer possible? Should I just wait her to approach me? She doesn't even accept treats from me...
If you could advise on what would you do I would appreciate very much.
HI!
Thank you so much for reaching out :)
I would definitely say that you have been advised wrongly here unfortunatly. Forcing an animal to do something until they accept it is called "learned helplessness", since they dont "learn that the thing isnt scary" but rather "learn to give up" if that makes sense.
Even though it may have back tracked your relationship I would never say that it's too late, but it is gonna take some time :)
If you emagine that she now sees your hand as a bad thing (cause of the grabing), she first needs to see it as a neutral thing (hand does nothing), and then a good thing (hand = treats).
What I would do to get to the neutral state is simply show her the hand (at a distance at first), and if she dosent react you can bring it closer and closer and so on. When/if she reacts I would keep the hand on that threshold until she relaxes, and then remove the hand as a reward for the calm behavior.
So if it makes sense:
First get the hand to a neutral state by getting your hand as close as possible until she reacts, then rewarding her for staying calm by removing the hand.
Second, when the hand is less of a threat you can put it beside her or try and put treats in it (now the reward for accepting the hand is the treats).
I really hope it makes sense, but remember that it can take mounths between these steps, and some days will be better than others.
But in short, yes, let her come to you and build trust that way. Best of luck :D
@@stellaandcharlie thank you very much for taking The time to answer! I will try what you told me and have patience.
I hope some day I could have her tamed and bonded (not only for me, but for her own well being!).
Thank you again for your answer and your videos!
Du är grym Stella, gillar dina inlägg, har en bronze ving pionus och hoppas du fortsätter med dina inlägg, sorry för svenskan,...
Hej Stella;
Kender du til pionus avlere i Danmark? :)
Mvh, Alex
Hej Alex!
Du må undskylde det sene svar, men jeg kan se du har fået hjælp inde på en af grupperne, og jeg kender kun én som jeg ved du er blevet anbefalet/har fået viden om, så held og lykke med søgningen :D
Hola. Yo tengo un pionus Senil de 2 años. Habla algunas palabras
La cabeza Todavía no la tiene toda blanca.
Tiene plumas verdes entremedio de lo blanco . Mi pregunta es, cuando tendra el plumaje Definitivo ??
It does sound weird that he/she is still doesn't have the "white crown" at two years old. It could be a possibility that you have a hybrid of some sort, but I of course can't be sure just from description alone.
Feel free to send a picture via the email on the channel, and I'll be glad to take a look :)
Have a great day!
@@stellaandcharlie
Hola. Gracias por constestarme
Hay quien me ha dicho que lel plumaje definitivo es a los tres años.
No se ……..
Gracias
I'm trying to find a recommendation for lamps for birds. I thought it was this video that she highly recommended one, but I can't find it. Does anyone know of one or another TH-camr that highly recommended a proper lamp? Thank you!
Hey Sarah!
I'm working on a "birds and winter" video, I'll gladly keep it in mind and tell what I know about bird lamps as well as finding some to recommend :))
Hi. I'm from Norway. Do you know any good Pionus breeder in scandinavian?
@@MovingFelix-bs2bm hmm I don't know of anyone sadly, only that the breeder I got Charlie from sold his pairs to someone in Sweden.
It's an old website, but here is where I found mine: Pionus.dk
As mentioned he doesn't breed anymore, but you could try and contact the Swedish one in there :)
GL!
@@stellaandcharlie Thank you so much😊
Muchas gracias por contestarme
Cómo te puedo enviar una foto
You can send it to stelloandcharlie@gmail.com
Pionus Tales sent me here
Why is he alone ?
I would love to give her a friend one day, but the budget and space is not there yet.
Thats not a pionus scream 🤣🤣🤣 he just talkin there .
My pionus Flo screams every morning for me to come and its a whole different thing lol
I know right!
It's the loudest noice she ever makes, like EVER (as contact call aswell), so to me that's her "scream"😅
Flo is such a cute name
Great video but you should have made a point of discouraging ownership. Truth is, larger parrots should not be kept as pets. They are too intelligent and live way too long. Also, most people are just not prepared and capable of maintaining the commitment and duty of care for their birds entire life. If you are for example 30 years old and buy a parrot who is going to take care of it when you yourself get old or depart this world? A larger parrot will have lived only half of its lifespan. Pionous don't live as long as the bigger birds but 30-40 years is still very very long. It is best to refrain if one can from buying a parrot. If you must buy then buy a tiny shorter lived parrotlet or budgie or similar. They can be fun too.
Can't say enough thanks for education to an ignoramus like me
Now i know how less I knew
Aw, thank you so much :D
This is why I love making videos, and I'm glad it helped :)
Love your videos! I was set on a Pionus, but decided on a female Cape Parrot - through lots of research, I found that I am a more perfect fit for a female Cape… Really diving into each species is imperative when deciding which type of bird to share a lifetime with. She’s been a part of our family for about five months - we are so bonded, and truly are two birds of a feather!🪶 ❤🪶❤️