Bachelorette Katie Thurston's Ex Greg Grippo Interviewed By Nick Viall After Messy ATFR- My Reaction
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- Bachelorette Katie Thurston had a heartbreaking breakup with Greg Grippo. Greg Grippo was interviewed by Nick Viall on the fallout and provided greater explanation about his actions. Here's my reaction.
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My Dad always said, "there are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth in between." I live by that. Great episode, Dave!
Love this! Smart Dad!
smart!
@sarahpitcher absolutely true sometimes there’s a blurred line between the 3 and so the truth becomes a lie lol
Truth is not always in between though!
He didn’t make any excuses like most people do . Doesn’t seem like a bad guy , just a guy that had troubles dealing with his emotions and expressing it . I didn’t find him wrong for making the decision to leave the show , it was just how he did it. It seems like her learned from that though
It s hard to believe that the emptiness that he felt from loosing his dad couldn’t be filled by the love he received from his mother his sisters his nieces and nephews but he wanted a stranger while dating multiple guys to fill this emptiness in very short period of time? If it wasn’t acting or practicing audition for Bachelor? He is very charming he could be the next bachelor,
It’s really refreshing to see Greg own up to his behavior.
It’s ground zero in the recovery process
Takes two 🤷♀️ I had a really bad break up from an engagement…I pointed fingers blaming but I also contributed to the demise it wasn’t just HIS fault!!
Hopefully we can see Katie apologize for very publicly misusing the term “gaslighting” multiple times to describe this breakup. As someone who actual lived through years of that form of mental abuse, it was disgusting to see that along with her misidentifying what it is on AFR.
@Kelly Hoyer again, I actually lived through it. Gaslighting isn’t just another name for a heated argument; it’s a very specific form of mental abuse that often takes a long time to even manifest. I know exactly what it is because I suffered through it for years, and was so mentally gone after I escaped that I didn’t even have a name for it until years later and after many visits with a therapist. Thanks, though.
This was a good interview. Greg was never my fave, not because of all the rumors around him but because of his insecurities. However, I’m happy he went on Nick’s podcast and I really feel like Greg was very genuine and remorseful. I wish Greg the best. I hope Katie reaches out and they can get some healthy closure.
It’s been great to see all the therapists and psychologists come out and help Bachelor nation understand and move through this minefield as well.
I sure our community can also move forward and we can all be more thoughtful towards each other and Dave.
Great job Dave.
Your take is soooo refreshing!!!! I just feel sad seeing people dunked on, and social media can be pretty ugly (for both “sides”) after something like this. So glad to see someone level and measured, who clearly has compassion for people in general, talking about this. Thank you
thanks for the comment, social media unites us and the problem can lie in being united when we are at different levels of our own enlightenment. rE: stupid folks dont get it
So glad Greg is realizing that he hurt Katie and does have some regrets. I never believed he was only acting, though.
Or perhaps he realized that acting career pays well
Kudos to Greg for trying to see things from Katie's perspective and realizing his behavior was not okay. He honestly seems like a good guy with some issues. He needs to work on those issues so they don't affect his future relationships.
I was hesitant to watch this as Greg rubbed me the wrong way and then Nick defended him so I figured this would just annoy me. I watched the interview and was pleasantly surprised actually. Nick asked a lot of hard questions and it seems like Greg has opened his eyes to his opportunities for growth.
Ya it seemed to be a pretty fair talk
Wholeheartedly agree with you! Thank you
Thank you for being a voice of reason in this comment section. Some people are so opinionated on things we have no idea about. We should hope for growth and change, not tear people apart. 🙏🏽
Love to hear this. I will give it a watch now.
When Nick didn’t get what he wanted either from kaithlyn or Wendy Nick was kind of like Greg got angry and like a crying spoiled baby
I just don’t understand when Katie begged him to stay, he just stormed out of there. I wish he was directly asked that in the interview.
Yeah. It seems almost intentionally cruel how he just left without saying a word right after she said (brokenheartedly), “If you leave this will all feel like it’s for nothing!” 😢 Her heart was breaking begging him to stay and he just storms out of there…
@@lisal2844 That was the worst part! It was so hard to watch. It sounds a lot like the behavior his ex girlfriend described. He acted the same way with her. So this has been a recurring issue for him.
I mean he basically was asked that. He said his mind was made up to leave and there was nothing she could’ve said to stop him.
I keep thinking about the attachment wounds/fear of abandonment that Greg has been facing and how those were triggered by Katie in that hometown. Greg loses his dad and he finds a safe person with whom he develops emotional dependency (that's one of the roles that therapists have in their clients' lives) and this safe person dies as well. How could he feel safe if he is unsure whether Katie is committed to him or not? He finds himself in the woods again, facing the bear, and unsure if there is going to be any safe person around to fight the bear with him. I'm not saying Katie did anything wrong, I'm just highlighting the triggers and the wounds that were poked in that interaction. I really hope that Greg finds his way back to safety, but it is heartbreaking to see the amount of trauma and loss he had in such a short period of time.
It’s not Katie’s responsibility to heal a grown man of his trauma. That’s what therapy is for.
@@Sara-wy8lh he was in therapy! Good GOD woman show some compassion!!
@@Sara-wy8lh I agree with you! What we saw is what I call a very "reactive" interaction where both parties are triggered at the same time. But they don't know what they don't know. I'm not taking sides here, I'm just now learning about Greg's attachment wounds. So looking from a relational perspective, that interaction makes sense to me.
But when you loose a close relative or your loving parent then a stranger who is dating multiple guys including yourself ; then you already know how this process works ; this is your 3rd times you had been trying to be part of it ; this stranger filled the empty ness that the lost of your dad left ?
@@solangebernadeau757 she wasn’t a stranger when he professed his love for her. I see no problem with him saying she fills a hole in his heart. I mean we all have some form of hurt or trauma and finding love is beautiful and can be healing in a lot of ways. However they obviously lacked some serious communication skills within the relationship, and I think they ultimately couldn’t give eachother what the other needed/desired.
Greg is definitely going through some very strong grief. Grief can really shake you and how you love, it tests your patience and I think when things got real that’s what we saw in Greg. Glad he apologized for letting his emotions get the best of him.
I watched it and thought it went well. He asked the questions I would like to ask. He now says he acted poorly and childish. If only he would said that ATFR. Hopefully they can all move on and work on what they saw about their behavior that all of us saw
Yes! It was clear, and he even said this, that by the AFR taping he was still only looking through his perspective, and only when the episode aired he was able to see what it was lole for her and understand her anger. I feel like if we had a live AFR like we usually do, the closure wouldve been less off-putting lol
Well if Katie had stopped interrupting and yelling at him I’m sure eventually he would’ve said that.
@@lordreyna6924 agree! Katie acted childish as well and everyone is excusing her behavior.
@@lordreyna6924 well I doubt he would have said at that time that he now sees things the way she did because he even said I. This interview that until after the ATFR he hadn't watched it any other way.
I think Greg’s spiritual lesson is that he needs to meet Aunt Linsey! When he can survive it, he knows he’s progressed!
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aight, he won me back over after saying that. good self awareness. his behavior was still NOT okay but if he can work on it then that is great.
I agree with you Dave. You really say it well. Greg is deep down a really good guy who has been through so many emotions that he had not worked through in my opinion.dealing with yet. I wish Katie and Greg the best
I'm so happy we got a proper timeline about the chain of events through this interview. The AFR took place b4 Greg watched the breakup back. He still thought Michael was around. There's a lot that makes sense about his thought process after watching this
Greg definitely triggered me, but after nick viall's interview, I think he owned up to his shortcomings, acceptance is key so good for him. hope he grows from this
Great video Dave!
Anger is just an emotion that is a defense covering up a more vulnerable emotion.100 percent of the time no exceptions
Lots of good insight. Nick did a great job interviewing him. I feel horrible for Greg’s experience with the death of his dad. I hope and pray that he finds peace and joy. He appears to have learned something from the situation.
I really wish people would go watch the whole video on Nick's channel. Greg said explicitly that he doesn't want anyone justifying his behavior. Maybe we can stop doing that. Of course, Rachael K also asked people to stop doing that, and it still happens. In any case, great video, Dave.
HI! Yes !
@@CcC-wi4bb The difference is that Rachel K did nothing wrong and had to unnecessarily apologize just to appease the woke police (and they still lynched her for it) meanwhile Greg did something obviously wrong, yet somehow people are hating on Katie for it. I also find the fact that he’s only apologizing on a completely separate podcast very not geniune as opposed to actually reaching out to Katie to apologize or to publicly apologize and tag Katie in it
@@assyrianprincess3 I wasn’t upset at Katie for her side, I felt her way of expressing her reaction was also unhealthy when they where on the men tell all. It went too far. Greg did wrong yes and so did she too in that moment. We can understand both of them without saying what they did was right, and still hold Greg accountable.
@@tulip5210 How was her reaction unhealthy? She had the right to be angry, and her using a firm tone is not the same thing as screaming and yelling
@@assyrianprincess3 yes, she had a right to be angry but not throw false accusations, what would of been healthy would of been “I felt blank when blank,” not “your an actor! Your fake!”
Also, as an actress myself, i wouldn’t ever go on a show like this and act the entire time like a different person. Yes i like performing, but actors can have real feelings and can want to find love too! He wasn’t even really an actor either! He just took a class or two. 😂 so silly how people blow small things out of proportion. I’m so sick of the media. 😵💫 cmon just let people tell their own truths yanno?
Ya folks would rather believe some fantastical truth than basically hear any person who works in the industry say ‘it doesn’t work like this’
I feel like when we're mad or hurt we say things we don't mean and often times insecurities are shown more in those moments and in the public eye its escalated a thousand times more...I emphasize with Greg and hope he can say those things to Katie and so they can move on
I learned more about Greg during that hour interview than watching clips and the beginning of the season.
He seems like a good guy. Lots of tragedy encompassed his life the last few years. To go Vegan for your dying dad as a show of solidarity speaks volumes. He realizes he still is healing and isn't going to pursue a relationship anytime soon. He realizes he could of done better and never bad mouthes Katie.
As someone that recently lost my dad to covd at the age of 62 I know exactly what that does to you psychologically. Losing someone who had unconditional love for you refines your bullsh*t meter. What I mean by that is that you analyze life and relationships to align more so with what you think you deserve. A love similar to the one you lost.
Wish nothing but the best for Greg and hope there's healing and love that surrounds him by those that truly love him.
Thanks for the comment and I’m sorry for your loss
@@DaveNealComedian ty Dave. That's probably why I side with Greg.
I lost my dad last year at the age of 72 to cancer, and I completely agree with this statement, 1000%
I'm so sorry about your loss. Sending love your way.
Pleasantly surprised by his conversation with Nick on the podcast!
This is why we let people talk lol
Great video Dave, enjoyed listening to your commentary
Thanks so much!
Thanks for covering this. I sometimes watch the interviews Nick does if I like who he is interviewing but otherwise, he's not my favorite. I'm glad Greg owned up to his behavior. I hope he continues to grow and heal.
I watched the interview and it went well. Great questions and hope it was healing for Greg and Katie.
As someone who was triggered by the episode, I felt better after watching this interview. This public apology/explanation was needed for public bad behavior. He seemed genuine to me, but either way, I can't ask anything else of him.
Glad this interview helped!
Literally stopped at 1:33, went and listened to the whole Nick podcast, then came straight back. Whatever you say Dave!😄
I bet Greg is surprised that people are making a "big" deal out of this. Glad Greg is talking about it and trying to learn from this situation!
Did anybody notice that Greg’s clock stood still! #timestoodstill
Appreciated that Nick asked him, “why should the people believe you now when you say you’re sorry”. What he’s saying now is such a departure. I hope he does take on his work. Not a bad guy, but clearly he has healing to do so that he can have healthier relationships going forward.
It really sucks he couldn't say these things to Katie. I hope he gets therapy for these issues. I would like to know what he thinks about his ex girlfriends claiming he was emotionally abusive to them. I'm sure deep down he wants a relationship but there is a lot of work to do before then. A lot of women just put up with treatment like that, it's sad.
I'm so glad he had the chance to address all these underlying issues and take responsibility for his actions. Great video Dave, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this interview!
I was pleasantly surprised about the interview. I’m glad he finally acknowledged the hurt she felt and how his reaction and behaviors weren’t okay nor should be defended. This whole situation is definitely nuanced and more complex then team Greg or team Katie. They were both hurt and reacted poorly (on the show and at AFR). I will say now that I am glad Katie reacted the way she did (I was very turned off by that and felt she was really rude) because he may not have seen it from her point of view if not. Wish them both well.
I was concerned her delivery wasn't the best for getting her message heard, but it seems like Greg got it at least.
this comment section is so thoughtful and understanding....... i didn't realize how toxic the chatty broads crowd was until this greg vs. katie thing happened.... go their finale recap video and check those comments if you have time, it's so bad with the blind rage against greg. It's crazy how ppl are so convinced someone must be a bad person if two people break-up.
Yikes! Most cases an angry commenters has work to do inward and I wonder if they are projecting that pain in the wrong places
Couldn’t agree more! I usually really like that podcast but I had to stop listening for the past couple of episodes, it just felt mean spirited all around. These people are real humans with feelings and when you target anyone like that, it just seems wrong to me. Goes for both sides always
@@jerushaabarca7717 yeah I agree Greg really brought out the mean girl in the broads lol, I usually like them though especially Jess ambrose!
Bekah is obsessed with making Greg look bad from the beginning of the season. She had horrible ig stories and tag Greg's
family. Some fans of Chatty Broads keep this negative opinion about him without listening to this interview. bachelor Nation.scoop on ig has done the same.
David, I started watching you during Matt James’ season and have been a Bachelor Nation viewer since their first season with a few seasons missed. What makes you (alone with Nick Viall) one of my favorites to watch as you incorporate other relevant information to help us connect the dots. I saw Nick’s show earlier and I believe it was a thorough and honest (what I call) “conversation”. Kudos to Nick and Greg. Thank you for the thoughtful and compassionate way in which you bring us your show. PS: I wish both Katie and Greg nothing but the best because they are human beings.
thanks so much for the kind words. appreciate you supporting!
I’m glad that he is hopefully learning and growing. Clearly he has some work to do to be able to be a good partner who sees the other person 🤷🏼♀️
Just watched/listened to this one. I was always partial to Greg lol but I was hoping this would show that he’s a normal good guy who just made a bad judgement call being hurt, he was open to all the hard questions and I love Nicks podcast and usually agree with him so was nice to hear him stay unbiased and let Greg get his side out!
Yay growth! Also, I'm in theatre and we know they won't cast actors on BN period. I've heard of actors submitting to go on the show and they won't even consider them if they say they're an actor.
Great recap! I listened to the entire interview between Greg and Nick, and honestly it sounded like Greg was a totally different person than how he acted on the show and AFR. It was strange, but as Katie said, "I wish him all the best".
sometimes you need a hot minute to get out the fish bowl and reexamine.
@@DaveNealComedian for sure, maybe he has learned from his mistakes, but something feels off about this interview.
It takes two. Greg shouldn't get down on himself. Get some help and grow. Katie wasn't perfect in this, either. I'm glad she's happy in her engagement, but that doesn't take care of underlying issues, which they both have. Hope they both get the help they need.
Agree I feel like now everyone is triggered and he’s carrying guilt for everyone and she hasn’t owned up to her part 🤷♀️
This couples Therapist analysis was really helpful: th-cam.com/video/1wO25EEMgr8/w-d-xo.html
That clock behind Greg doesn’t work, lol. It’s the interview where time stood still… 😜 Hope everyone has a great Wednesday!
Haha several have mentioned this
“I just like looking at you”… Duh
yes, that was so weird! His face had already fallen at that point, and he looked really sad. what a dumb thing to say.
If Greg had underlying issues or whatever else tough luck. So does a lot of people and not everyone goes into a reality show to deal with it and trying to since 2019 which is when his dad died apparently. People acting like he’s the only one who lost a father and sympathizing for that is a little silly. Look at Michael. Look what a positive attitude to life he had. If Greg is not after fame, easy enough to figure out, he should t be in any more reality shows. Period. If he goes into another reality show bachelor nation or other, he was after fame and not there for Katie
THIS
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Yup excuses
@@chelseas5948 I never said it was black and white but snowflakes making excuses every time life throws them a curveball and going on reality television is not the ideal way to deal with life either. Plenty of people here have lost loved ones and have dealt with it by not going to a reality show
As someone who also went to acting school, I never thought that he was a plant, just exaaaactly like so many 20 something actor fuckbois with unresolved issues I dealt with back in the day 😭🤦♀️😂
Haha ya that’s way easier for casting to find just a rando fboy
It's not about taking sides. We dont know either of them deep enough to criticize exactly why katie was sooooo angry or why Greg acted the way he did and didnt apologize properly. Maybe he needed to get thru these two days and really think about what he did and said previously and come to a different realization. Who knows.
They filmed ATFR weeks ago so he hadn't even seen the episode where he leaves yet
I think they both didn’t handle things well in the end. I do not think Katie should’ve blown up as much as she did on live television (that can really ruin someone’s life, some of the things she was saying to him), but i feel there was a lighter way she could’ve handled Greg, and still let him know that she was hurt and felt very disrespected. I actually liked Katie a lot, but then when she blew up at him i lost a lot of respect for her. I always thought Greg was a down to earth guy but maybe hadn’t healed all the way since his fathers passing and Maybe he just came on the bachelor too soon. I think he is a great guy and a real person and we all have bad days and things we need to work on to better ourselves. In the end, everything happened how it was meant to happen! 😄💜✨Happy for them both!
I think the rumors about Greg on social media affected her. People were saying that they knew him and that he only went on the show for exposure because he wanted to get into acting and that his real personality was a cocky Jersey boy. I think she believed this because it explained his behavior for her. And also saying he had no regrets for hurting her so deeply. I believe that explains her extreme anger. Although I don’t believe he was acting. I think whoever wrote in that Greg was this horrible person who only got on the show for acting exposure was someone holding a grudge and had perhaps been rejected by Greg and wanted to portray him as a bad person. But unfortunately Katie believed these rumors and was really convinced that it was true, because she never really understood why Greg left and seemed so angry with her. The rumor seemed plausible to her. But I don’t think the rumors are true. I just think Greg was not healed enough from the trauma he went through losing his father and then his grief counselor died too. If you look for someone to fill a hole in your heart you will be disappointed because only you can heal your own heart. I think Greg should never have agreed to go on a show that can be traumatizing as well. Competing with 30 other guys for one woman’s affection can be brutal. I thing Greg and Katie are both good people at heart.I’m glad Katie found love and I hope Greg gets his heart healed.
I really liked this video and your analysis, Dave. Well done. I know I’ve griped about you but I believe in telling someone what they do right. Not just what I think they’ve done wrong.
Greg is shocked to find out that apparently he’s been on the bachelorette this whole time.
😂😂😂
Hahaha
This just makes me wonder why other contestants like Luke b or Jed as example weren't given choice to talk as much as Greg about their background and history to explain their actions on the show.
Yeah, and we know for sure Jed went on for the exposure. This idea that no one goes on for exposure just isn't true.
@@mykidsaresupercute it wasn't just about going for exposure, it's a show there will always be people joining for exposure..
My point is that usually when someone show manipulative behavior in the show and don't apologize in the final or tell all, they get erased and no one gives them a chance to explain their background or experience unlike this time..
@@amany8805 Because they’re going to make him the Bachelor in the future. They’re setting up his redemption arc. He had too many fans for the show to let him go.
@@phoenixgirl70 that would be a nightmare.. He needs a lot of time to be heal from his grief and actually be ready.
Dave I almost always agree with you. Thank you for being rational and giving people the benefit of the doubt. I enjoy all of your bachelor content. Keep them coming!
Haha I’ll settle for almost always ;)
This is helping me process me ex friendship
THIS is what we were waiting for.....Greg to admit his fault in this too!!! Too bad the ATFR was not live!
Agree with you Dave.
Dave, I really enjoy your podcast. I've been listening for a while along with Nick Viall's. Its nice to hear a man's take on things and really thoughtful, intelligent insight. Have to say that I felt bad for Greg in this situation. Maybe because I have a son and in the end Greg is someone's son, someone's brother. He seemed willing to break the 4th wall for love whereas Katie was not. Hard situation for everyone. Maybe we'll see Greg in other bachelor shows and get more insight on him.
Dave is back! saw your old stand up! the long hair! you looked like Dana Carey!
I am glad he addressed his treatment of Katie and I agree with Dave.
I don't see why/how Nick caught so much flack for this interview. His job isn't to burn people at the stake, it's to get them talking. If he went too hard, I'm sure Greg (or anyone, for that matter), would have shut down. I think Nick left space for growth, and that's what I like to see.
Did he catch a lot of flack? I think it’s important to accept valid criticisms but also March tj best of his own drum
Look into Leveling. Hurting people try to bring people down to their level. It helps not to react.
I read Greg is seeing a therapist. I think that’s wonderful news. I think he behaved badly but I don’t think he’s a bad guy. Merely someone in a lot of pain that needs to work through it.
I do hope he can find happiness one day, whether it’s by himself or with someone else. But I do think he does need to find that foundation of happiness with himself first before he can have a serious relationship. I hope he can find it.
Is it just me or has anyone else not heard him say anything negative about Katie?
Right there with you
What do you want me to say? She overreacted? I didn’t know that she did, she felt her feelings.
@@DaveNealComedian Yikes..Dave, I meant Greg, not you. So sorry 😞
@@wakaywa i read it as greg but it lowkey works for both lol but Dave is like all people he clearly has a bias for Katie, i think it is fair to say that he does like Katie and therefore is inclined to think better/not worse of her, either way hope Greg truly learns from his behavior and that Katie matures from her response in the finale - neither was okay
@@DaveNealComedian
It’s okay and necessary to feel your feelings but not okay to blast someone in your rage.
Almost 40k Dave!!! I feel like anyone who hasn't seen the whole episode should definitely watch it in it's entirety. I was very Team Katie but now I'm team HEALING and GROWTH ❤️
No one can complain about healing and growth!
Absolutely!!! I’m taking him at his word that Greg is learning and growing!!
I look at these scenarios and think… hmm how can I grow and learn myself!!! 🦋💙💯🌹❤️
Too time consuming to not take people at their word lol
Thank you Dave for covering a very controversial topic with grace, love, respect, empathy, intelligence, and understanding!!!
Well done, Belizean Badboy AKA
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Hahaha the name just gets longer and longer :)
I'm glad he's gotten it now. I wrote him off because of how unremorseful he was during afr, but I'm glad he's looked back and is owning up to it now.
Have you seen Dr Kirk Honda? His channel is Psychology in Seattle. Interesting breakdown on last week's episode. Certainly says Katie was doing great. Sounds like he would agree its good Greg is seeking help.
Ya he’s fascinating!
I appreciate the reasonable perspective on this. Let's not assume the worst in people til they give us reason to. Good call. I watched the whole interview and gauged it to be sincere and heartfelt but let's see if his actions line up. It seems to me at least he has tried to grow from his dad passing but life and stuff has gotten in the way, but he was able to see on two different occasions the show wasn't for him, so he doesn't strike me as a clout chaser even as a younger man which to me is a sign of maturity.
I'm a newbie to your channel specifically for S17 Bachelorette. Your analysis and blatant descriptions about what is really happening is refreshing. Glad to have subscribed 👍🏻
Aw thanks appreciate having you on the squad!
I really feel like greg and Katy are actually very similiar the more i watch. Greg seems to be a more extreme version of her. I do have empathy for both sides. Sometimes you should not have to pick a side. When the dust settles I think they will both see things more clearly and forgive each other and move on.
Greg needed his mom to support him for Katie instead of saying "I'm afraid my son is going to get his heart broken". She could have said, your dad would be so proud of you son; whether you and Katie end up together or not, me and your dad believe in you following this through.
I thought there was no way Greg was getting the bachelor edit until I heard this podcast! It seriously sounded like producers sent Greg to the podcast to “do it right” and repair his image 🤷♀️
Could be, regardless, a good convo
@@DaveNealComedian oh yeah, and I’m also not on either side-both had valid feelings and both could have handled the better (like all of us!)
Maybe true, maybe not, but Nick truly did him well by asking all of the tough questions.
@@bethnshermy agree! I've also really come to enjoy Nick/his podcast because of how he asks real questions in a respectful way, and doesn't just try to be the guest's best friend or appease the audience. This actually first stood out to me when he interviewed Katie: while everyone else seemed to be using a promote-the-bachelorette filter, he asked the tough questions [and no, I don't mean the one about the countries in Africa, I mean about her time on the show, lol!].
@@runnerX007 ya Nick is definitely becoming a better interviewer in general and also bringing something unique to the table.
I would’ve respected it a lot more if he looked back at his behavior and gave her an actual apology but this is a good start.
AFR was before he got to watch the breakup episode. So a lot changed after he watched it again and saw it from Katies point of view. Makes sense why he said he didnt have any regrets at the time and now you see his remorse
@@fseedat4128 they watched it before they went onstage to record ATFR.
They showed the episode to them and the audience at ATFR. And he said he had no regrets. People wonder why Katie was a upset?@@fseedat4128
I watched and liked Nick's interview. When professionals come on and lay out information for us, but five minutes later we're back to the same wrong conclusions-as if we heard nothing, it's exhausting. And mean. For me, I'm backing away from all of this for awhile.
I agree ; Nick was great
They say love is blind. When Greg removed his love, she was able to see Blake!
Pretty low energy comment, pretty negative. May be true; may not be, but hope you can let them just simply be. Our chapter on bachelorette ends and she can now pursue her relationship.
@@DaveNealComedian I think it's a very good thing! Greg set her free she could too see the situations more clearly! They did the best they could and it turned out great! Plus, they will learn a lot too!
Yes, he hurt Katie but she hurt him too. Why is no one trying to get her to appologize. This just shows Greg had the humility to recognize his fault and appologize while Katie just played the victim and recognized none of her faults.
She has actually said in interviews now that after watching the ATFR back that she feels she had gone into it a little too hot headed.
I really hated how Greg treated Katie on the show and didn’t like him personally. After watching this, I feel that I can understand where he is coming from and hearing him apologize has changed my mind. Like you said, I’ll take his word until he shows me other wise. I don’t think he’s an evil person, just flawed and shouldn’t have been on the show with all of his emotional issues. I don’t however think he should be the bachelor, I think that would be a huge mistake for the contestants and Greg as it’s very prevalent that he has a lot of work to do to get to healthy mindset but knowing the producers, they know having Greg as bachelor would bring in a lot of viewers to watch that train wreck.
So interesting! Game of Roses podcast did a breakdown of Nick’s seasons and he had a similar athlete/boring career/reality tv journey. Greg just had the extra step of acting school. But I think they both were seeking to fill that competitive/performance high that they had in their athletic years.
In the Access interview Blake said a similar thing about sides. He asked people to take away who did what ans just look at what was done. I thought this was very well said.
I’ll check that out thanks!
Blake also said in another interview that he was triggered by what Greg did, therefore taking sides. All f*cking hypocrites. He's playing the white knight role. Smh 😒
@@mstea2234 can you post the link please! Never digged Blake
@@mstea2234 i think he is not playing the white knight. He is a white knight. He is just this mature and genuine funny guy.
He sure went through a lot of shit too that’s why he can say things like that
I watch almost all their interviews and yup i am pleasantly surprised on how they are so mature, esp blake. They are so supportive with one another and so fun to watch together.
#TeamDave
Haha yes!
I was definitely triggered by Greg’s attitude and the way he talked down to Katie. I mean it’s not my story, but when you experience something similar, it can be triggering. I was glad that Greg apologized and got a chance to reflect and see the reason why he projected onto Katie. This is a step in the right direction. It’s good to see someone take accountability, and not make excuses. I wish him and Katie the best. We all have done things that have been hurtful, because of our hurt… and it’s up to us to work through that hurt and heal, and learn how to communicate our true authentic selves to the world around us ❤️
Please give Greg a break, this is so ridiculous that we’re still talking about this. He’s a great guy… Period! I’m tired of him being railroaded over a freaking reality show.
This couples therapist has a really helpful take on their situation. He’s really trying to understand Greg’s perspective. th-cam.com/video/1wO25EEMgr8/w-d-xo.html
That moment when Katie accuses Greg for gaslighting and then Greg says what a typical gas lighter would say, “im sorry you feel that way…” 🥴 I hope he really learns how to truly apologize. He didn’t take any responsibility and basically tried to manipulate her into feeling seen. So many people actually believed that was an apology. Lol
Did you watch the whole interview with Nick?
IDK 🤷♀️ what to 🤔 think! I watched the whole Nick & Greg convo last night & I kept thinking... yes .... Nick so said just hang with me as I play devil’s advocate thru this interview and you can come out smelling like 🌹 roses & eventually may be the bachelor! I have been there!!! I know how to help you redeem yourself!
He was talking about other guys that would be great Bachelors. He put his support behind Andrew S., who seems to be his really good friend. Did you miss that part?
I think Nick just wanted Greg to have a chance to redeem himself, plus he saw high ratings by bringing him on. I don't think they are conspiring to make him Bachelor. Besides, there was a casting call for single mothers and divorcees so, if that doesn't scream Michael A. I don't know what else does.
We'll see soon enough.
Maybe watch it again with an open mind. I didn't see that at all. I finally got to see who Greg is in this interview
Where on earth did you get that? That is not what happened at all!
@@57andstillkicking you dont know.. or do you? Did you ask them? It VERY WELL could have
@@mstea2234 NO, I did not miss that part... I said I watched it all! (I have watched all of everything Bachelor... I am an Original MEMBER of Bachelor nation..respect) GREG knows there is no way he will be the next bachelor... Nick knows it but is helping him with damage control big time.....so, I have been around enough to know that NICK V was on Season 10 & 11 of the Bachelorette and was the villain & then on BIP where he turned his reputation around... & then the bachelor...so it was several years before he was the bachelor... Greg could do the same thing ... just sayin,,, Arie was another one that waited YEARS... & Clare too... it happens
Dave....................GOOD
I would think that Katie, consciously or subconsciously, wanted Greg to leave because she asked him whether he would give up on them and leave since the beginning of their relationship. Maybe she didn't want to hurt him and already knew she was going to pick Blake and didn't want to take the blame for ditching Greg but wants to remain that self righteous person and push it all on Greg as if it's his fault.
How many times would you let your significant other ask you if you are going to leave them before you had enough it?
Makes a lot of sense! 🤔🧐
This couples therapist had a really helpful analysis about Katie and Greg. th-cam.com/video/1wO25EEMgr8/w-d-xo.html
@@a_gal_alive I don't think the therapist understands Greg, he simply expected some sort of emotional response to him pouring his heart out other than being asked if he's going to give up and leave. Katie is just not the right one for him, the situation gave him clarity. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that and being emotional about it. It's just what happens and Katie did the same to a lot of other guys when she had those moments of clarity. Since she wasn't really emotionally attached to them she didn't make a scene like Greg did, he was just caught of guard and somewhat of a Mamas boy. Is he the baby of the family?
Anyways that's how I see it
@@miriammiriamxoxo personally I’ll take the couples therapist word over a non couples therapist. Plus have you seen Greg talk about it on Viall Files? He’s asked there and on US Weekly that people not defend his behaviour.
@@a_gal_alive Ok awesome, do whatever you want!!!
I just feel like making teams from this is so disappointing. They're humans who were both hurt. And if there was a big edit in there with Katie's awkward reaction to Greg pouring his heart out, and I was Katie watching hometowns back, I would have defended myself and yet she still didn't see what was wrong I would have said, "I said more to him in that moment than the show let on so I don't understand his reaction..." or that the weight of his words floored her more than she "just was listening." But she never did and talked like she was above him bc she was the lead. She kept talking like just bc she gave him one on one dates and the first impression rose that that should have been enough, but by saying that she's literally proving Greg's point further by showing she might have cared more about playing by the rules of the game than actually handling feelings by the end of it. It doesn't matter if she thinks she validated him all season. That's not how every person works. If Greg needed comfort in that hometown moment, there was nothing wrong with him being upset. It just blows my mind that people found him whiny and uncalled for. It was very clear to me what was happening in his mind and I'm happy he is in therapy now. He shut down as a fight or flight response bc he lost his father, and the woman he was gonna bed and propose to in a couple days couldn't give him anything sincere in a moment he needed it. Not condoning the next day, but c'mon! This is not a black and white breakup and this doesn't mean he'd be an abusive boyfriend. C'mon
Gregg saw a part of a date Katie had with Blake 🤔(how did this happen), during the final 2 weeks of the show, and I think when she seem to push back after he poured his heart out, during hometown with him, his mind told him her feelings for Blake must be stronger.
I think you're missing the point that some people don't think he was actually hurt, that he is an actor.
What sincerity was she supposed to give him in the moment though? She hadn’t picked him yet. Literally most leads just say - “thank you for saying that” - when a contestant tells them they love them. “I love looking at you” is a step up LOL
I believe he was sincere, not acting. Seeing her interaction with Blake 🤔 was in his ❤️ and 🗣️
@@janeryan2709 I don't condone Greg's way of leaving, but Katie's extreme bitterness towards him in AFR tells me that she still doesn't get why Greg shut (her) down. Here were ways she could have validated him without saying "I love you." (Which I commend her reasons for choosing not to say it):
1. Just move closer and hug him for awhile
2. "Thank you for being so vulnerable with me. This is one of the reasons I find our relationship so special."
3. "I'm sure your dad is proud of you. I wish I could have met him."
4. "I see a future with you." (don't just cry about it to the producers once he's left. Like???)
5. ***my personal favorite *** "Losing a parent is an unimaginable pain. You know I understand. I am happy to have eased some of yours. I want your happiness."
Mind you, these were instant reactions I had in my head after watching last week, seeing as I lost a father myself. Saying "I just love looking at you " triggered a fight or flight response. It's not hard to figure out. I'm tired of Bachelor Nation (and Katie) making teams and throwing the word "Gaslighting " around. Even with her describing it to the audience, that was not gaslighting. Those were his real beliefs in the moment. Greg was emotionally manipulative but I don't he's a narcissist, acting the whole time,, or a gaslighter.
That said, I do like them both. However this ends, I hope they find happiness. But yeah. Katie isn't 100% in the right here like her narrative portrays. Personally I think Katie always wanted Blake-- even before Greg left-- so I think it was best he dipped before fantasy suites 😂 Greg's points were valid.. I mean, she broke her "I love you" rule so easily with Blake and so soon after wanting to book her flight home. Greg had intuition to know it wasn't him; let's be real.
What if the obvious was true? What if the show producers found him at his school and paid him for the show appearance? What if this was all scripted? What if he now in the hot seat and he in now paid additional money to keep things under wraps ? Do we not know that its been the case in the past???
That’s fantastical
I’m going to go over and listen to the interview. At this point, I have no reason to not believe Greg. If only he could’ve said any of this on ATFR.
I agree that you don’t go on The Bachelor/ette to become an actor. You go on to become an influencer. 😀
Or the new host 😆
You don't do sides 👋
I think producers told him to do this in order to become the bachelor in the future. I cannot believe in his words, a lot of time has to pass to be able to like him.
Men have to be held accountable. I applaud Katie for standing up for herself after the final rose. Greg came off as depressed & well he was still mourning. I don’t know where his head space was when he signed up for the show.
That damn Craig. Lmao. He does have a way with words. Someday I’m certain he will be able to use them correctly and the timing will be spot on.
Dam Dave, I thought you were ok having people with differing opinions. All good, not worried because it's 100% your page, but I will say I wasn't rude, explicit, or aggressive in my comment and only made a specific comment in response to an action. I'll avoid anything controversial in the future.
What are you referring to?
Why didn’t the clock hands move???
A lot of people, IMO , are seriously overdoing it here. It's as though he left her waiting at the church on wedding day. Terrible. But if that's the moment you "know" it's not right for you, should you walk down the aisle and commit to a wrong choice in order to not get cancelled? It's a reality show folks. Life is complex. After watching Katie on ATR, I think he made the right choice. They both have issues. Hopefully, they'll both be happy.
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