We went into this thinking the GT500 would dominate and the 911 would come in dead last. Boy did we have some surprises waiting for us! Read the full story: edmu.in/33AXbwc
Great video guys! But here's a suggestion, maybe put the 10 speed Camaro ZL1 up against the Corvette and Porsche? I sure I will be a much more even match.
I think magazines should start mentioning torque/weight as reference more than weight/HP. Because HP has nothing to do with weight, all the work is done by torque
@@ponygt6629 Sorry, but it does not work that way. Go back and brush up on your Physics. Its about instantaneous HP to weight ratio. At that instant that you are looking at the two, how much power is being put down, and how much weight. The greater the power to weight, the better acceleration. So, for example, from a launch, the power is lower, because the RPMs are lower, but what sounds more impressive is the torque number, but it doesn't matter, power is still down, and it takes some time for the power and acceleration to come full swing. That's provided the traction is there. The higher the mph, the easier it is to get full traction. The word Torque in laymans terms and how it is commonly used, what the common man is actually referring to, is how much power you have at low RPMs. HP includes torque in its structure and RPMs. The equation HP=torque*RPM/5252, so as you can see HP is torque with RPMs factored in. So when someone says torque, what they are really talking about, since they are trying to brag using the torque numbers... they are talking about HP at low RPMs... OR RATHER, when you are in 6th gear in a manual cruising at 70mph and you punch it, does the car move or just sit there? The higher "torque" car will move, the lower "torque" car will sit there. Why, power has not come in, since RPMs multiplied by torque is HP, and higher RPMs means higher HP, provided the torque does not drop off at high RPMS... Another way to look at it... The Mustang has always had high torque, but until the coyote engine, which is the 2010 V8 engine, the torque was up high, but the HP was very low. Then after the new engine, the torque pretty much stayed the same, but the HP practically doubled. Why??? Because they were able to keep the torque from dropping at high RPMs, which makes a ton of HP. That HP difference took the V8 Mustang from doing a low 14sec 1/4mile to a low 12sec 1/4mile. You think the HP had something to do with it??? Absolutely. Do you know where the torque numbers really come into play??? When you have all wheel drive, lots of HP and Torque, and you need all the traction and power ready to go, in an instant, FROM A STOP. Yeah, from a stop. Yeah, that's when torque matters, as well as traction obviously. I recently saw a drag race between the Jeep Trackhawk vs The Tesla Y, and the Trackhawk actually took the torque heavy Tesla Y from a launch till about 40mph. The Trackhawk actually out torque'd the torque of an electric motor. WOW!!! Still don't get it? Don't worry, 90% of the population doesn't get it.
A C8 isnt anywhere close to supercar levels, lol. Motortrend just did their Best Driver's Car competition and you can see what real supercars do. The C8 is a great sports car but supercars are on another level entirely. Heck, even a 4 year old Camaro SS was quicker than the C8. That is pretty embarrassing.
@@EK-rr2md cost versus performance then the C8 should be the hands down winner. If they waited for the Z06 or ZR1 model to compare then that would have been a closer comparison. And come on...I have a H/C/I Camaro SS and it’s not faster than a C8 🤒 Give it some credit!
@@joe00camaross Look up the results...a 4 year old Camaro SS did better than the C8. It is what it is. Of course Corvette has always been really good bang-for-your-buck but it just doesnt compare with supercars.
@@EK-rr2md and I agree. That’s why I said it did pretty good based off the price versus the competition they put it up against. That and price to maintain the other cars...I’d take a C8 over them. Convertible though 😃 But eagerly awaiting the Z06 and or ZR1 versions to see how they stack up.
Hats off to all 3 cars!!! Mustang for being 500+ lbs heavier, Corvette for being the only n/a car, and Porsche having only 6 cylinders and 3L engine capacity!! They are all winners!!!
@@logan204 Do you understand what it takes to win a race around a circuit? Its def not a 0-60. to win circuit races it requires top end acceleration so that you can overpass.
So Porsche has a weight advantage, GT500 has a huge HP advantage, Chevy splits the difference. 3 ways of getting to about the same place. I'll take the Vette because it has the most presence anywhere you go & I'm not a fan of engine life with boosted engines.
Then checkout the GT500 vs M4. It’s even worse there. Dude did a rolling race at 40mph in 3rd gear! Even the M4 guy was smart enough to do in 2nd gear. My 5.0 can do almost 50mph in 2nd gear and he launched it at 3rd. SMH.
Not really. Temperature and road surface played a lot into the GT500 not getting traction. You did notice he was driving it without traction control aid?
GT500 brakes were still on by the time the other two cars were more than a car length ahead. How that 1/2 second late start wasn't noticed is beyond me. Clearly driver error. Of course he does well with rolling start. A chimp could have done that...
Not even that wait till you see them test a C8 ZO6. Best part is GM is now enforcing dealers to charge no more than msrp and might cut their allocations if they do.
Its real easy to google online for manufacturer's specs; on a prepped drag strip. When it comes to real-world performance, these guys did a good job to display how this might turn out if you pulled up at a red light to any of these cars driving one of the others.
It's been said many times that 0-60 MPH is about traction and 1/4 mile/roll racing is about HP. This video adds to the volumes of proof that no truer words have been spoken.
Brah, my Corvette's (C7) rear has slipped out even at 60mph if I go full throttle....but I got the all season tires which may be the culprit, Sticky tires really do make a difference
It is a well engineered vehicle. But I am not a Porsche guy. I don’t care at all for the looks of them. The only ones that make good engine noises are the naturally aspirated 3.8L and 4.0L flat six. The only Porsche I’ve ever thought was half way decent looking was the Carerra GT. That V10 made some wonderful noises as well.
@@osoufmiller5499 Yeah true however that's not realistic on and unprepared track surface. Also they are going down hill I didn't notice that before. check out 13:16 on the video you will see.
No, they mention early on it's short but don't really say how short. I'm not even sure it's an 1/8th mile. They link to their full article where in a quarter mile the Mustang wins and is moving 10mph faster. Quote from said article: "With 760 horsepower, the GT500 would seem the favorite in a straight line. Ultimately it is. In testing at our private test track we recorded a 11.3-second quarter-mile pass at 129.9 mph. That edges out the Corvette (11.5 seconds) and the 911 Carrera (11.8 seconds). But the race doesn't start that way."
Agreed....there is always a faster car out there.... I would take any of these, I drive a 2008 Sonata. And my son gets his C8 tonight...yes I am jealous.
Haitham Alkalbani And mine is paid off. But my son has a 2017 C7 currently, thought he was trading it in for the C8, turns out he paid the C7 off already. So, I get to drive the C7 anytime I want, not gonna get the keys to the C8 for the weekend
the corvette only has 450 hp till it pass the 500km mark, then the ECU automatically opens up the rest of the HP, bassically when you drive it the ECU limits the fuel and other aspects of the revs so that you only have 450hp only till after the engine does its 500kms? where as the other two cars are all hp straight up?
For those who are tired of pausing the video to convert this unintelligable gibberish that is the imperial system into something understandable: Porsche 911 Chevrolet Corvette Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500 379 hp 495 hp 760 hp 448 Nm 637 Nm 847 Nm 1536 kg 1653 kg 1888 kg Would be cool if you guys could include metric measures into your videos. You know, there are only 3 countries left in the world that stubbornly kling to this hopelessly outdated and unprecise imperial system.
So the C8 needs a 110 hp more to be as fast as an entry-911. That is not slow, but lightyears away from all those "under 3secs"-claims. The Z06 did 2.99 to 60 on a prepared drag strip.
If you look at at all the supercar fail videos, (wipe-outs, fishtailing, crashes, etc) then the team achieved their goal : showing how cars driven by the average Joe compare to one another on an average surface, you know, those you would find on the way to work, shopping, back home, those. . No prepped drag strip, no racing drivers. Great job!! For pro-drivers' videos please click on the following link ................. ......... 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Should have used Carrera S. Porsche is in a different class and yes I have owned VETTE and now own an older 2006 Carrera S. It’s 15 years old and on another planet in performance. I will never go back
It's a twin turbo - since the 992, even the weakest 911 has a 3.0 twin turbo engine (379HP - Carrera 4 and T) I think even the 2nd weakest version - Carrera S 444 HP (390 lb-ft) would be enough.
31 years of 911 ownership and after test driving the C8, the Porsche 911 is still the legend in which all else is judge by. It is what it is and Porsche is a different level of engineering. Even in base form the 911 is still a faster and better balanced performance car punching way above what it’s specs would have you believe. The Corvette is now “good” but it is not in Porsche 911 league.
@@Gltokensp06 a Stingray is a base Corvette the Z51 package do offer a slightly better exhaust, engine output is only 495 vs 490 for a non Z51 package which doesn't offer a limited-slip differential that helps it slightly in 0 to 60 performance, bigger brakes, and tires, and aero bits geared more for track use, but the non Z51 Stingray has a higher top speed due to the downforce of the Z51 package, 194 vs 184 for the Z51. Both are the base car, one just gear more slightly for track performance.
Can we get someone who knows how to race to drive the gt 500. Especially when I've seen first hand pros drive against each other with the exact same cars and the gt500 dominates them.
Are you seriously that shallow? The damn gt500 is almost double the hp of the vette and Porsche, technically it should eat them. The fact that the Na vette beat the "turbo Porsche" and "supercharged gt500" should tell you the z51 is a much better car. A real comparison, gt500, c8 z06 and a gt2 would be a better comparison. But, we all know, the z06 Na @670hp is going to decimate that gt500!
@@snapperface12345 there's something called engine placement configuration. The Vette and Porsche are mid engine layout and rear engine configuration layout which gives them extra traction due to the tires being over the rear wheels. The Shelby GT500 is front engine rwd so it's going to struggle off the line compared to mid engine and rear engine configuration off the line. Mid engine and rear engine configuration cars have superior acceleration to front engine cars.
@@layne4376 I'm sure you still appreciate the Fiero when you see one on the road. My neighbor has one, and he gets a whole lot of looks, lots of thumbs up, smiles, etc.
When I was 16 I wanted to buy a fiero for $3000 manual with the Ferrari kit color red super clean I’m still mad at my mom for not letting borrow 1000 dollars lol 😂
I think it goes to show that Porsche really understates their performance figures! The fact that the base 911 did so well against the C8 is really impressive!
@@Marcello2005 price is not about power alone, there is a lot more complicated engineering refinment and quality in that 911that makes it more expensive than a corvette, and even when its underpowerd by a huge percentage it can still be on par if not surpass cars with supposdly higher numbers, from engine to transmission to chassis to suspendion to steering, you will feel the balance between all of these when you are behind the wheel
The 911 will only be on pair with the C8 as long as traction keeps back the other cars and those short gears last. The same happens with the C8, why is it so fast from 0-60 with only 495hp? Good traction and short/fast shifting gears. But obviously, when the power runs out, the car with the best aerodynamics and the most horsepower will take over.
A big part of it is driver error as well. On the second run the GT500 got going faster than the initial run and he still struggled to keep the damn thing balanced. Even if you lose traction you should be able to keep the front end straight. I bet that with a more unphased driver the GT500 would have lagged a bit less. I still don't think it would be faster than the other cars in an 1/8th mile but this wasn't at all an accurate representation of how they accelerate from a dig.
@@pikende - Its 100% better than a Vette. The Vette is too harsh of a ride. The GTR had the same issue. Nothing could handle both daily and track use like a Porsche.
@@darepool4416 This may come as a shock to you, but not all Porsches are fast. And spell it right for cryin' out loud. That Carerra only has ~379hp. The Vette has ~495, and the Shelby packs ~760hp. The Porsche did surprisingly well in a drag race due to its transmission.
Dude driving the Shelby looks like the geek from middle school finally getting a seat in the popular table and doesn’t know how to handle it. Too much power for this person.
@@octoman_games it's a Ford. You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. TH-cam K. P. Mustang. TH-cam LS 9 mustang. TH-cam most patriotic turbo LS mustang. TH-cam stock bottom end record. TH-cam Chevy powered mustang tears up the yard. The fastest Ford's are Chevy powered... But I have to admit, GM has been letting me down...
@@octoman_games nice!! I have a 2014 silverado 5.3 that has averaged 24 MPG numerous times, has 117,000 trouble free miles, I off road it all of the time but the junk rancho shock's are bad...
Pitch meeting for this episode: "Let's do a step-by-step on how to activate the launch control. And let's make sure it takes longer than the actual race." "Yes!! That's brilliant!"
Don't like it? Then go elsewhere. Every enthusiast channel has to be different generally for targeting a specific audience or then TH-cam would be boring to watch. Plain and simple.
@@Meldium I love it. I lost the owner's manual for my GT500, so through this video, I learned how to activate the launch control. Im ready to eat Jettas for lunch. Worst-case scenario, when I need to fall asleep, I'll watch one of these videos. Thanks for your reply!
I love how they always take a GT500 and 911 and race against the BASE model Corvette but never against the faster models like the Z06 lol and they still lose! Corvettes are BA AF. Can't wait tell the 1000HP & 1000TQ Corvette Zara AWD comes out in 2025
I have a 21 model gt 500 and it is absolutely the funnest , fastest and scariest car I’ve ever owned !! It’s soooo quick ! Handles soooo good too ! I’ve had a hellcat , 16 model ctsv and they don’t compare to my gt500. You definitely have to know how to drive !
I concur. My s550 struggles to grip the road and launch versus other sports cars I've owned, but it has great power and stability once you get going. I'd love to test drive that c8 though!
@@Kevin-xv2nh its a grand touring car idiot. its literally in the name "GT" why would you ever think its a luxury car. Most "sports" cars nowadays are not real sports cars anyway
@Sergio same goes to the C8 with options. The Porsche just has more options to choose from. They aren't even needed.. Also, the convert is like 80-90k. Most people who geet the Carrera never get options.
@Sergio the c8 cant rape any 911 wdym. and like every C8 is worth more than 75k. People cant stand options for both porsche and c8. you are also forgetting you are buying a porsche and not a toyota. The quality is over the charts and you get 4 seats. the cerrera on the video beat the c8. and lets not forget its a porsche who doesn't want one.
@Sergio What are you saying... Porsche is known for being fast and extremely reliable. I own myself a porsche and it has done me much better than my old corvet which I sold for the porsche. It was worth it 100% and the base model beats the C8. Did you even watch the video?
@@superbird2814watched a knucklehead at the race track with one of the newer Stingray. He had a lot of mods done along with a supercharger. Guy was running summer street tires. That car hit the wall and fiberglass exploded everywhere. What a Jackwagon
@Christopher Laughlin this is the basic 911flat six 3.0 and not even the four wheel version , keeping up and also beating powerful V8 , V10 and V12 cars, the new turbo s and gt2RS have been destroying Lamborghini Aventador SVJ V12, McLaren 720S and Ferrari 812 as seen on Carwow, Porsche is serious engineering.
Christopher Laughlin $400,000 compared to Porsches 911 Turbo S $200,000 and the Porsche beats it, by a lot. The GT2RS beats it around the track too all while being cheaper and more luxurious. LMAO
@Fast Minion Yea, the 911 Carrera starts at 99k, the Carrera S starts at 115k. Their Base Carrera they have optioned to 116k. I don't think the price is why they were comparing it. I think they just compared what they had access to. They even say it's not theirs at the start of the video.
Chevy’s been working on mid-engine prototypes since the 1960’s. Chevy had a rear engined car in the Corvair and there were many Chevy race cars with midengines. Building the C8 was always a matter of market, will, and development $$. Now it exists.
They also made that mid engine Caddilac Cien concept years back. The C8 looks VERY similar to that and I would not be surprised if it was just a revision of that. Oh and forgot to add part of the issue was legacy as the Vette was always front engine. But I am glad they got over that and are even now exploring flat plane cranks with the new Z06. Gonna be nuts and gonna be the cheapest 2.6 second 0-60 supercar by like a million dollars (granted the Dodge Demon can do 0-60 faster but that is a drag car and not a super car that can do drags and track).
They're claiming a 2.6 sec 0-60 time in the brand new ZO6 rear wheel drive. Now I'd like to see that proven. If that's true and without all wheel drive that's incredible. Maybe with race tires?
@@davidsafely732 where? Please send a link. Corvette c8 allways fails miserable 0-100kmh. Onboard measurement is highly inaccurate. It got allready tested vs. GPS. NA 495hp , rwd, 1650kg....2,6 to 60mph.....impossible 😂 Even with useless 1 foot rollout!
Why not put all three cars on the same track with the same driver that is a pro experienced on that track and get say a three lap time for each. I suspect by the end of the third lap the Porsche will outrun the other two cars by a huge amount. And make the Porsche the 992 4S - four wheel drive and 450 hp with the larger diameter brakes than the 385 hp base Porsche.
@@ricardosimon1975- True..he was shifting in the 40 roll with a dct , just leave in automatic and punch it. Gt500 could've used a better driver than 500 would've won.
We went into this thinking the GT500 would dominate and the 911 would come in dead last. Boy did we have some surprises waiting for us! Read the full story: edmu.in/33AXbwc
Great video guys! But here's a suggestion, maybe put the 10 speed Camaro ZL1 up against the Corvette and Porsche? I sure I will be a much more even match.
I think magazines should start mentioning torque/weight as reference more than weight/HP. Because HP has nothing to do with weight, all the work is done by torque
The GT500 has a 1 second delay on Launch Control //// Never use Launch Control
@Loco Raindrops Pay attention. They said the GT500 did not have the carbon fibre pack. No carbon fiber pack no 2's.
@@ponygt6629 Sorry, but it does not work that way. Go back and brush up on your Physics. Its about instantaneous HP to weight ratio. At that instant that you are looking at the two, how much power is being put down, and how much weight. The greater the power to weight, the better acceleration. So, for example, from a launch, the power is lower, because the RPMs are lower, but what sounds more impressive is the torque number, but it doesn't matter, power is still down, and it takes some time for the power and acceleration to come full swing. That's provided the traction is there. The higher the mph, the easier it is to get full traction.
The word Torque in laymans terms and how it is commonly used, what the common man is actually referring to, is how much power you have at low RPMs. HP includes torque in its structure and RPMs. The equation HP=torque*RPM/5252, so as you can see HP is torque with RPMs factored in. So when someone says torque, what they are really talking about, since they are trying to brag using the torque numbers... they are talking about HP at low RPMs... OR RATHER, when you are in 6th gear in a manual cruising at 70mph and you punch it, does the car move or just sit there? The higher "torque" car will move, the lower "torque" car will sit there. Why, power has not come in, since RPMs multiplied by torque is HP, and higher RPMs means higher HP, provided the torque does not drop off at high RPMS...
Another way to look at it... The Mustang has always had high torque, but until the coyote engine, which is the 2010 V8 engine, the torque was up high, but the HP was very low. Then after the new engine, the torque pretty much stayed the same, but the HP practically doubled. Why??? Because they were able to keep the torque from dropping at high RPMs, which makes a ton of HP. That HP difference took the V8 Mustang from doing a low 14sec 1/4mile to a low 12sec 1/4mile. You think the HP had something to do with it??? Absolutely.
Do you know where the torque numbers really come into play??? When you have all wheel drive, lots of HP and Torque, and you need all the traction and power ready to go, in an instant, FROM A STOP. Yeah, from a stop. Yeah, that's when torque matters, as well as traction obviously. I recently saw a drag race between the Jeep Trackhawk vs The Tesla Y, and the Trackhawk actually took the torque heavy Tesla Y from a launch till about 40mph. The Trackhawk actually out torque'd the torque of an electric motor. WOW!!!
Still don't get it? Don't worry, 90% of the population doesn't get it.
if 5 minutes are important to you, jump to the 5:45 mark for race 1, to 9:40 for race 2 and to the 13:00 for the final
Bless u. I don’t need to hear these guys talk for 15 minutes!!!!
This guy talks alot annoying
my hero
Thank you later?
Thank you!!
Is this a car show or a talkshow? Less talking more driving!
Right! Let the cars do the talking.
Agree
You are so right! They should STFU and drive.
They are trying too hard to be funny and entertaining and reach the opposite effect.
Yeah
This could’ve been a 5 minute video and you still would’ve had plenty of time to explain everything. Way too much unnecessary filler.
But then they couldn't cram 10 ad cuts into it.
1st race starts at 5:45, 2nd one starts at 9:45 and the roll-on starts at 13:03
Thank you
Thanks
Corvette performance and price compared to the others it’s been compared to has held up very well! Congrats to Chevy on making a super car affordable
A C8 isnt anywhere close to supercar levels, lol. Motortrend just did their Best Driver's Car competition and you can see what real supercars do. The C8 is a great sports car but supercars are on another level entirely. Heck, even a 4 year old Camaro SS was quicker than the C8. That is pretty embarrassing.
@@EK-rr2md cost versus performance then the C8 should be the hands down winner. If they waited for the Z06 or ZR1 model to compare then that would have been a closer comparison. And come on...I have a H/C/I Camaro SS and it’s not faster than a C8 🤒 Give it some credit!
@@joe00camaross Look up the results...a 4 year old Camaro SS did better than the C8. It is what it is. Of course Corvette has always been really good bang-for-your-buck but it just doesnt compare with supercars.
@@EK-rr2md and I agree. That’s why I said it did pretty good based off the price versus the competition they put it up against. That and price to maintain the other cars...I’d take a C8 over them. Convertible though 😃 But eagerly awaiting the Z06 and or ZR1 versions to see how they stack up.
@@EK-rr2md This Corvette didn't have a super tune. Tuning is everything. Give it some credit. Dollar for dollar.
Hats off to all 3 cars!!! Mustang for being 500+ lbs heavier, Corvette for being the only n/a car, and Porsche having only 6 cylinders and 3L engine capacity!! They are all winners!!!
Points to the GT500 for having the worst driver as well.
Points to the c8 for looking the sexiest
Points to the Porsche for being way down on power
Points to the Porsche for being the better car 💯!!!!
@@davidsilvasgarage6029 Fact! All Facts, and nothing but the Facts! I'm waiting for the 2024 Z06 Convertible..
I think the guy in the gt500 was struggling on the launch but the roll race really shows his performance
Yeah because the GT500 is a heavy ass front engine car with too much power to launch lol 3.3 0-60 vs 2.9 in the vette
Lmao would never buy a gt 500 cars with 300 hp less faster in quarter mile EMBARRASSING
@@donaldkinder6716 lol try racing it ur 300hp less car when u meet on the highway 🤣🤣
Yep they will win that race. C8 is a track car not a drag car though.
@@logan204 Do you understand what it takes to win a race around a circuit? Its def not a 0-60. to win circuit races it requires top end acceleration so that you can overpass.
Gt500 driver drives like he's driving a camry
Explain
@@ibrahimhadid9257simple- it means that he doesn't know how to drive a performance car, in this case that gt500
@NarrowPath nope! It's the right car, wrong driver
@NarrowPath it can launch quite well actually 😂 you just have to know how to drive it
Some of you need to take a physics course 😆
So Porsche has a weight advantage, GT500 has a huge HP advantage, Chevy splits the difference. 3 ways of getting to about the same place. I'll take the Vette because it has the most presence anywhere you go & I'm not a fan of engine life with boosted engines.
This is the worse I’ve ever seen a GT500 driven. Goodness gracious.
It's in the wrong conditions. Take it to a proper drag strip and it be a completely different story.
Then checkout the GT500 vs M4. It’s even worse there. Dude did a rolling race at 40mph in 3rd gear! Even the M4 guy was smart enough to do in 2nd gear. My 5.0 can do almost 50mph in 2nd gear and he launched it at 3rd. SMH.
Not really. Temperature and road surface played a lot into the GT500 not getting traction. You did notice he was driving it without traction control aid?
GT500 brakes were still on by the time the other two cars were more than a car length ahead. How that 1/2 second late start wasn't noticed is beyond me. Clearly driver error. Of course he does well with rolling start. A chimp could have done that...
Not even that wait till you see them test a C8 ZO6. Best part is GM is now enforcing dealers to charge no more than msrp and might cut their allocations if they do.
Please invite me to drive the GT500 next time! 😂 #drivermod
Please do. These guys are novice.
Yea he is an idiot
@@drfaticus It's literally an automatic and he still can't get it right. You can see how bad his reaction time was.
@@PJthePlayer yep
Yes!!! Lmfaooo
This video went exactly how i expected it to go. The mustang would lose the drag race but absolutely eat on the roll race.
The mustang should win in the 1/4 also. Needs a driver
Yes sir. That is a lot of horsepower to put down from 0 to ? But rolling it on, that thing is a freaking BEAST!!
@@andre49ers it’s also the surface. Those times are on prepped surfaces I believe
Its real easy to google online for manufacturer's specs; on a prepped drag strip. When it comes to real-world performance, these guys did a good job to display how this might turn out if you pulled up at a red light to any of these cars driving one of the others.
@@andre49ers More HP doesn’t automatically mean you’ll win in a drag race... The drag race went exactly how it was supposed to go.
16 minute video that could have been 8 minutes without all the yap, yap, blah, blah, blah!
I agree. I hate those bullshit.
Its actually a show...no problem if there is a legit plot development...sheesh! 😬
It's been said many times that 0-60 MPH is about traction and 1/4 mile/roll racing is about HP. This video adds to the volumes of proof that no truer words have been spoken.
Brah, my Corvette's (C7) rear has slipped out even at 60mph if I go full throttle....but I got the all season tires which may be the culprit, Sticky tires really do make a difference
Add tires Shelly's gone
I cant stop been amaze of Porsche performance and thats just the base 911.
no the C8 is the most impressive
The 911 is such a masterpiece
It is a well engineered vehicle. But I am not a Porsche guy. I don’t care at all for the looks of them. The only ones that make good engine noises are the naturally aspirated 3.8L and 4.0L flat six. The only Porsche I’ve ever thought was half way decent looking was the Carerra GT. That V10 made some wonderful noises as well.
@@markball7028 Amen. Carerra GT>>>>>everything else
It's Tiny. Made for Little Rich People.
@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 lol you don't have to be rich to have a 911
@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 Keep that GT500 at home, we all know they’ve done zero at setting any track records anyways.
Seems like they’re running a 1/8 not a 1/4
fr but i think it’s just that fast
It's the 1/4
@@Asiansxsymbol Nah, they're at Willow springs. At most, that's 1,000ft.
They all run a quarter under 12 already that’s what the facts about the cars say
@@osoufmiller5499 Yeah true however that's not realistic on and unprepared track surface. Also they are going down hill I didn't notice that before. check out 13:16 on the video you will see.
30 seconds of content stretched into 15 minutes.
Carroll Shelby said "No such thing as too much Horsepower but just not enough traction". ,
Too be fair, if it was a 911 turbo S, it would be a different story
Is this really a quarter mile seems short
No, they mention early on it's short but don't really say how short. I'm not even sure it's an 1/8th mile.
They link to their full article where in a quarter mile the Mustang wins and is moving 10mph faster.
Quote from said article:
"With 760 horsepower, the GT500 would seem the favorite in a straight line. Ultimately it is. In testing at our private test track we recorded a 11.3-second quarter-mile pass at 129.9 mph. That edges out the Corvette (11.5 seconds) and the 911 Carrera (11.8 seconds). But the race doesn't start that way."
It was really a very short distance... or else the gt 500 will catch them
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Looks like a 1/8th mile strip
Unpreped 1/8th mile.
Starts at 05:50
Thx i am studying and just want the drag
Underrated comment!
These guys talk so much, just wanted to help everyone get to the point of the video
Thanks to all commenters who are mentioning other cars that are faster.
😂😂😂😂 Man you got me.
Agreed....there is always a faster car out there.... I would take any of these, I drive a 2008 Sonata. And my son gets his C8 tonight...yes I am jealous.
@@mshinn13 at least you got that +30 mpg lol.
Haitham Alkalbani And mine is paid off. But my son has a 2017 C7 currently, thought he was trading it in for the C8, turns out he paid the C7 off already. So, I get to drive the C7 anytime I want, not gonna get the keys to the C8 for the weekend
@@mshinn13 lmao 😂. You are lucky
the corvette only has 450 hp till it pass the 500km mark, then the ECU automatically opens up the rest of the HP, bassically when you drive it the ECU limits the fuel and other aspects of the revs so that you only have 450hp only till after the engine does its 500kms? where as the other two cars are all hp straight up?
Because corvette is awsome!
You always go with a 911, it's just the overall better car
Those are the FACTS
"So then, What exactly happ.." oh wait
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Matt 😭
This is a master-class in how to stretch out a video
The 911 is incredibly fast for its power
Thats because the HP is underrated. Has something like 410-420hp
and expensive haha
Karlan Meyers but its worth it imo
@@843OutdoorsSC That's usually what people say when they get beat by them
Dynos show they are advertised low. 420 to 460 is common.
Reliability the corvette is easily the winner.plus it will cost alot less money to run over a 5 year period
I"d take the Vette. Great off the line, handles like it's on rails, and looks the best of these 3. Well done, GM.
911 turbo s (992), that's the beast!
too much talking
Never beat car wow 💯
yes , too much
They have to make a video last 15 mins…..so chit chat filler is needed.
Don't mess with a Mustang 🔥🔥
Especially when standing in a crowd!
Especially when they convert the Mustang into an AWD, though it's an RWD(and it's pretty hard to launch).
@@cw3982 Bro so original and funny man.
First a Bugatti can beat a mustang
For those who are tired of pausing the video to convert this unintelligable gibberish that is the imperial system into something understandable:
Porsche 911 Chevrolet Corvette Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500
379 hp 495 hp 760 hp
448 Nm 637 Nm 847 Nm
1536 kg 1653 kg 1888 kg
Would be cool if you guys could include metric measures into your videos. You know, there are only 3 countries left in the world that stubbornly kling to this hopelessly outdated and unprecise imperial system.
So the C8 needs a 110 hp more to be as fast as an entry-911. That is not slow, but lightyears away from all those "under 3secs"-claims. The Z06 did 2.99 to 60 on a prepared drag strip.
+ 140 lb-ft
The Vette has weight over the rear wheels and it has very good launch control.
It’s the true winner
No offense but the dude don't know how to drag race. Lmao pretty damn sad.
If you look at at all the supercar fail videos, (wipe-outs, fishtailing, crashes, etc) then the team achieved their goal : showing how cars driven by the average Joe compare to one another on an average surface, you know, those you would find on the way to work, shopping, back home, those. . No prepped drag strip, no racing drivers. Great job!! For pro-drivers' videos please click on the following link ................. ......... 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
And you don't know proper English.
@@CRPerformance1 proper english would have been "the dude DOESN'T....."
LMAO.... pretty damn sad 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂, with a comma, after offense.
@@tube-dude77 No offence man but this is youtube, not a school, so stop being a teacher and mind your business, he can type however he wants to.
Nah It’s just the mustang can’t hook up well like mid and rear engine cars. He’ll win in a longer race though.
Should have used Carrera S. Porsche is in a different class and yes I have owned VETTE and now own an older 2006 Carrera S. It’s 15 years old and on another planet in performance. I will never go back
Uh huh. Just keep throwing more money at porsche, someday it will beat the 70k corvette lol
Slick Mike LOL. th-cam.com/video/avVNWWBnQek/w-d-xo.html
Vettes compete w/Ferraris & Lambos, I agree about Porsche in a different class, it should race Camaros and Mustangs!
Matt C the new Z06 will. This one. Not at all.
if that was a 911 Twin Turbo there would be no question who would win.
It's a twin turbo - since the 992, even the weakest 911 has a 3.0 twin turbo engine (379HP - Carrera 4 and T)
I think even the 2nd weakest version - Carrera S 444 HP (390 lb-ft) would be enough.
31 years of 911 ownership and after test driving the C8, the Porsche 911 is still the legend in which all else is judge by. It is what it is and Porsche is a different level of engineering. Even in base form the 911 is still a faster and better balanced performance car punching way above what it’s specs would have you believe. The Corvette is now “good” but it is not in Porsche 911 league.
The Porsche in the video is the weakest 911 that Porsche makes, the 992 Carrera T 3.0 version (379HP)
And this is just the base C8, those Z versions are going to be monsters
This is not a base Corvette. It's got the Z51 package which includes brakes, suspension, aero, tire, and more power than a base Corvette.
It is thw Z51 vette and loses to a naked base 911
@@Gltokensp06 a Stingray is a base Corvette the Z51 package do offer a slightly better exhaust, engine output is only 495 vs 490 for a non Z51 package which doesn't offer a limited-slip differential that helps it slightly in 0 to 60 performance, bigger brakes, and tires, and aero bits geared more for track use, but the non Z51 Stingray has a higher top speed due to the downforce of the Z51 package, 194 vs 184 for the Z51. Both are the base car, one just gear more slightly for track performance.
The 911 was a naked base model with under 380hp now that's a true engineering the C8 in this Video is the Z51 full loaded with 495hp V8 6.2L
@@gaddyify I'm just saying that it's not a base Corvette. If anything, the gearing with make a base c8 much slower in the quarter mile.
The mustang dude could not launch that mustang period. That’s what happened
Can we get someone who knows how to race to drive the gt 500. Especially when I've seen first hand pros drive against each other with the exact same cars and the gt500 dominates them.
Please!!
Yep. Unless you are a very experienced driver it takes time to learn how to put the power down on a Shelby.
It's hard to launch a front engine layout against rear end mid engine layout cars.
Are you seriously that shallow? The damn gt500 is almost double the hp of the vette and Porsche, technically it should eat them.
The fact that the Na vette beat the "turbo Porsche" and "supercharged gt500" should tell you the z51 is a much better car.
A real comparison, gt500, c8 z06 and a gt2 would be a better comparison. But, we all know, the z06 Na @670hp is going to decimate that gt500!
@@snapperface12345 there's something called engine placement configuration. The Vette and Porsche are mid engine layout and rear engine configuration layout which gives them extra traction due to the tires being over the rear wheels. The Shelby GT500 is front engine rwd so it's going to struggle off the line compared to mid engine and rear engine configuration off the line. Mid engine and rear engine configuration cars have superior acceleration to front engine cars.
Put somebody in the mustang that knows what they’re doing
That price for the GT500 is BS. You cannot buy them for less than $120,000
Corvair, Fiero....so nerdy dude was wrong...GM has some experience with making a rear engine car.
@@layne4376 I'm sure you still appreciate the Fiero when you see one on the road. My neighbor has one, and he gets a whole lot of looks, lots of thumbs up, smiles, etc.
Outdoor Layne oddly the Corvair was a great car once they replaced the rear suspensions later in their lifecycle.
Corvair is rear engine. Fiero is mid engine. C8 is mid engine.
@@layne4376 Yeah, this one is mint from the outside. Very nice.
When I was 16 I wanted to buy a fiero for $3000 manual with the Ferrari kit color red super clean I’m still mad at my mom for not letting borrow 1000 dollars lol 😂
Porsche easily the best here.
I think it goes to show that Porsche really understates their performance figures! The fact that the base 911 did so well against the C8 is really impressive!
Ok this is also a base corvette that is half the price and the corvette won so the vette is more impressive
@@Marcello2005 price is not about power alone, there is a lot more complicated engineering refinment and quality in that 911that makes it more expensive than a corvette, and even when its underpowerd by a huge percentage it can still be on par if not surpass cars with supposdly higher numbers, from engine to transmission to chassis to suspendion to steering, you will feel the balance between all of these when you are behind the wheel
The 911 will only be on pair with the C8 as long as traction keeps back the other cars and those short gears last. The same happens with the C8, why is it so fast from 0-60 with only 495hp? Good traction and short/fast shifting gears. But obviously, when the power runs out, the car with the best aerodynamics and the most horsepower will take over.
It a porsche, the giant killer.
@@abdullabatni77
The C8 is 200+ ibs heavier.
Also can you all learn a new word
Besides refinement. Its getting old
Its vague and offers no substance
skip to @5:42 you're welcome
I like how the cocky guy in the Chevrolet was all giddy and excited then he got his feelings hurt
This shows how much grip means - not all about HP - especially at lower speeds.
A big part of it is driver error as well. On the second run the GT500 got going faster than the initial run and he still struggled to keep the damn thing balanced. Even if you lose traction you should be able to keep the front end straight. I bet that with a more unphased driver the GT500 would have lagged a bit less. I still don't think it would be faster than the other cars in an 1/8th mile but this wasn't at all an accurate representation of how they accelerate from a dig.
Porsche: Fastest off the line. Most space and cargo space. Most fuel efficient. Best ride.
Best ride? You think it is better than a corvette? Never.
@@pikende - Its 100% better than a Vette. The Vette is too harsh of a ride. The GTR had the same issue. Nothing could handle both daily and track use like a Porsche.
but! its sooooo uglyyyy
@@yaracell3418 - I mean, the Vette looks like mock of a super car. It already looks dated. But that's opinion.
@@truthkeeperfilms idiot🤦♀️🤦♀️
Horrible driver on the GT 500. No need to use the paddle shifters the automatic shifts faster using just the computer
So the GT500 didnt warm the tires with Line Lock?
Now, just imagine the GT4RS rather than the base 911.
Turbo S is faster at drag races
Yeah.. that 911 rocks! Just goes to show, even the entry level 911 is awesome!
I can only afford the gt500 or Corvette. I'll take the Corvette.
@NOLAY AUSTIN We'll see. So far, it is indeed the best.
Best move!
Then you can afford the only 2 nice looking cars out of these 3!
I still prefer the corvette any day
No one cares
Wow...I am blown away at how well the 911 did against the C8. I would not have guessed that outcome.
Tf u mean ur surprised it’s a f porche
@@darepool4416 This may come as a shock to you, but not all Porsches are fast. And spell it right for cryin' out loud.
That Carerra only has ~379hp. The Vette has ~495, and the Shelby packs ~760hp. The Porsche did surprisingly well in a drag race due to its transmission.
@@seanwilliams5053a car with more hp isn’t necessarily faster than it’s opponent. And the carrera isn’t a simple porsche k buddy
Yea 911has turbos, and almost cost doubled, supercharge C8 all will be toast.
The 911 power is clearly underrated as evidenced by the MPH
3 races in 16 minutes and 50 seconds that’s a joke could’ve been a sub 5 minute video.
First mid engine car from Chevy is very capable
Dude driving the Shelby looks like the geek from middle school finally getting a seat in the popular table and doesn’t know how to handle it. Too much power for this person.
No he drives well but the shelby sucks
These fanboy comments are cringe.
I'm just trying to figure out who can STILL be and WHY is anyone a fanboy of a mustang!!!
@@philllsxga.7737 im a hardcore Chevy fan, but that GT500 is boss!
@@octoman_games it's a Ford.
You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
TH-cam K. P. Mustang.
TH-cam LS 9 mustang.
TH-cam most patriotic turbo LS mustang.
TH-cam stock bottom end record.
TH-cam Chevy powered mustang tears up the yard.
The fastest Ford's are Chevy powered...
But I have to admit, GM has been letting me down...
@@philllsxga.7737 MY every day driver is k1500 blazer 1995 lol my old man was a chevy guy so was his old man before him, so am i, but i like the GT500
@@octoman_games nice!!
I have a 2014 silverado 5.3 that has averaged 24 MPG numerous times, has 117,000 trouble free miles, I off road it all of the time but the junk rancho shock's are bad...
So Porsche is down by 116HP to the C8 Vette and it barely got beat!? I’d say that’s the winner here in my opinion
The 911 won the 1st race.
Now look at the price tag for each and come back here
Cept thats not how races work
Magnus0083 well it’s no secret the Porsche 911 has always been more expensive and for mostly justifiable reasons
Jimi Bones pretty sure that’s not how spelling works either
Need a better vette driver. zo6 would destroy the other 2 .... with a decent driver.
These ladies chat way too much. Mustang the only car there!
Team Corvette
TH-cam commentor here 😂
Y'all need to heat up those tires if you want a good launch. Launching a 4200lb car with cold tires is not a winning hand.
Wouldn’t matter without track prep.
@@TooManyChoices1 Yes it would, do you even drive a car? ANY car on ANY road benefits from a little heat in the tires, especially performance tires.
Pitch meeting for this episode:
"Let's do a step-by-step on how to activate the launch control. And let's make sure it takes longer than the actual race."
"Yes!! That's brilliant!"
Don't like it? Then go elsewhere. Every enthusiast channel has to be different generally for targeting a specific audience or then TH-cam would be boring to watch.
Plain and simple.
@@Meldium
I love it. I lost the owner's manual for my GT500, so through this video, I learned how to activate the launch control. Im ready to eat Jettas for lunch.
Worst-case scenario, when I need to fall asleep, I'll watch one of these videos. Thanks for your reply!
Have you tried starting in 2nd gear with the Mustang?
No loss of traction
I love how they always take a GT500 and 911 and race against the BASE model Corvette but never against the faster models like the Z06 lol and they still lose! Corvettes are BA AF. Can't wait tell the 1000HP & 1000TQ Corvette Zara AWD comes out in 2025
I agree but it is the base model 911 in this video, against a 4S or even the 2S with 444HP it would be different story.
I'll take the yellow one.
Then you dumb
@@zReaaCTioNz that's your opinion
Carmine Cinardi that’s facts
@@zReaaCTioNz you are right, it is a fact that you have a stupid opinion 🤷♂️
Carmine Cinardi boy you like boring and cars that have been seen so so so much overrated AF
Love how I constantly see these videos from editors who cant drive.
Exactly right that just annoying.
Enjoyed the content, but it felt as if I was watching a knockoff version of Drag Racing on Carwow. 🏁🏎️ 💨
HAHAHAHAHHA seriously my brain defaulted to Carwow and I was expecting Matt...then they started talking...then the sad drag race.
Same format. Did they do a brake test too?
It's not rocket science mustang driver!!! Get mad and set your mind and use the track setting and go. Complicating things by thinking too much.
I have a 21 model gt 500 and it is absolutely the funnest , fastest and scariest car I’ve ever owned !! It’s soooo quick ! Handles soooo good too ! I’ve had a hellcat , 16 model ctsv and they don’t compare to my gt500. You definitely have to know how to drive !
Nah the speed different with the 911 and the Corvette makes sense , because the Carrera S with 440hp actually walks the C8
No it doesn’t.
I concur. My s550 struggles to grip the road and launch versus other sports cars I've owned, but it has great power and stability once you get going. I'd love to test drive that c8 though!
The s550 isn't a sports car, it's a luxury car.
@@Kevin-xv2nh its a grand touring car idiot. its literally in the name "GT" why would you ever think its a luxury car. Most "sports" cars nowadays are not real sports cars anyway
Not Chevy’s first attempt they done rear engine cars corvair
The engine over the rear wheels really helps.
5:40 that’s race time
The Stang is on bad ass ride and I have to hand it to the Vett thats a really cool ride the 911 is such an Icon that it always does well .
It’s funny, you picked a base 911 and it still is way better than anything else 😂
It's a base model Corvette as well and it's better than the Porsche
The Carrera is like 10k more than the C8. Don't forget 4 seats and more luxury and it's a god damn Porsche. Worth the 10k extra to get all those.
@Sergio same goes to the C8 with options. The Porsche just has more options to choose from. They aren't even needed.. Also, the convert is like 80-90k. Most people who geet the Carrera never get options.
@Sergio the c8 cant rape any 911 wdym. and like every C8 is worth more than 75k. People cant stand options for both porsche and c8. you are also forgetting you are buying a porsche and not a toyota. The quality is over the charts and you get 4 seats. the cerrera on the video beat the c8. and lets not forget its a porsche who doesn't want one.
@Sergio What are you saying... Porsche is known for being fast and extremely reliable. I own myself a porsche and it has done me much better than my old corvet which I sold for the porsche. It was worth it 100% and the base model beats the C8. Did you even watch the video?
The 992 turbo s would completely demolish them, but it almost cost a lot more
yeah but for the money of almost tree GT500 😎
Oumar Bedy I love the stangs I got me a 2020 gt but I wouldn’t buy a 500 I’d get a zr1
Best car here (Porsche) rest are absolute trash, how dare they try compare
@@robocop3961 agreed, that porsche is trash
Mustang needs the biggest widest stickiest drag tires…..
Exactly. I facepalm every time I see a video of people drag racing mustangs and hellcats with street radials on.
@@superbird2814watched a knucklehead at the race track with one of the newer Stingray. He had a lot of mods done along with a supercharger. Guy was running summer street tires. That car hit the wall and fiberglass exploded everywhere. What a Jackwagon
It’s a base 911. Turbo S or GT2 RS would have wiped the floor with American steel. 😂
Even if it was an s or a 4 it would of beat the vette lol
@@allenstyer205 true!
Meanwhile the Porsche is doing all the things with only 6 cylinders. That's German engineering.
@Christopher Laughlin this is the basic 911flat six 3.0 and not even the four wheel version , keeping up and also beating powerful V8 , V10 and V12 cars, the new turbo s and gt2RS have been destroying Lamborghini Aventador SVJ V12, McLaren 720S and Ferrari 812 as seen on Carwow, Porsche is serious engineering.
Christopher Laughlin What about the GT2 RS? It’s cheaper than the Ford GT and it’ll smoke the Ford GT.
Christopher Laughlin $400,000 compared to Porsches 911 Turbo S $200,000 and the Porsche beats it, by a lot. The GT2RS beats it around the track too all while being cheaper and more luxurious. LMAO
Christopher Laughlin You mentioned performance nit collectivity and value. I wouldn’t pay for that slow ass car but that’s just me 🤷🏻♂️
Twin turbocharged 6 cylinders...
With 72 years of rear engine refinement, the 911 always preforms above its weight class.
They took one of the weakest Porsche 911. For so much less Power the 911 shows a great performance. Imagine the Carrera S (450 hp) or higher models.
@Fast Minion Yea, the 911 Carrera starts at 99k, the Carrera S starts at 115k. Their Base Carrera they have optioned to 116k. I don't think the price is why they were comparing it. I think they just compared what they had access to. They even say it's not theirs at the start of the video.
Imagine another 100 thousand or more,
You can go as fast as your money will
Let you.
This corvette will be the weakest C8 ever. With higher level trims and revisions in later models always, always outperform the previous year models
How about turning the traction control off on the GT500 to get more traction?
I would only want the Porsche--whomever wins. True beauty.
Chevy’s been working on mid-engine prototypes since the 1960’s. Chevy had a rear engined car in the Corvair and there were many Chevy race cars with midengines. Building the C8 was always a matter of market, will, and development $$. Now it exists.
They also made that mid engine Caddilac Cien concept years back. The C8 looks VERY similar to that and I would not be surprised if it was just a revision of that.
Oh and forgot to add part of the issue was legacy as the Vette was always front engine. But I am glad they got over that and are even now exploring flat plane cranks with the new Z06. Gonna be nuts and gonna be the cheapest 2.6 second 0-60 supercar by like a million dollars (granted the Dodge Demon can do 0-60 faster but that is a drag car and not a super car that can do drags and track).
Fiero
They're claiming a 2.6 sec 0-60 time in the brand new ZO6 rear wheel drive. Now I'd like to see that proven. If that's true and without all wheel drive that's incredible. Maybe with race tires?
Oh yeah, it's done it!
@@davidsafely732 where? Please send a link. Corvette c8 allways fails miserable 0-100kmh. Onboard measurement is highly inaccurate. It got allready tested vs. GPS.
NA 495hp , rwd, 1650kg....2,6 to 60mph.....impossible 😂
Even with useless 1 foot rollout!
I don’t care what car wins. The GT500 is so badass and aggressive
so agressive it never wins
@@THESLlCK Probably faster than the POS hooptie u drive lol.
Andy E if you have to compare a $100k 760hp car to someones“pos hooptie” you and the car lost the argument.
@@dylspeckk I was calling out a jealous loser that probably drives a piece of shit. He's the one who said it never wins.
No surprise. Porsche really underates the power in their cars. All German cars are underrated. The Porsche probably makes 475 hp.
Why not put all three cars on the same track with the same driver that is a pro experienced on that track and get say a three lap time for each. I suspect by the end of the third lap the Porsche will outrun the other two cars by a huge amount. And make the Porsche the 992 4S - four wheel drive and 450 hp with the larger diameter brakes than the 385 hp base Porsche.
That guy doesnt know jack about launching the GT500
Agree, I dont think he was a very good driver or not familiar with the gt500.
@@hugostiglitz8465 he is not a car guy just listen to the dumb things he says
@@ricardosimon1975- True..he was shifting in the 40 roll with a dct , just leave in automatic and punch it. Gt500 could've used a better driver than 500 would've won.
no, you just don't know jack about the GT500. It has a slower 0-60 and slower quarter mile time. I guess that's really hard to accept, huh?
@@THESLlCK How does it have a slower 1/4 mile time exactly when it can do 10.6 while the C8 does 11 on the drag strip ?
Porsche 911, the epitome of speed.
It’s also the epitome of overpriced ugliness. I guess you didn’t see the Vett beat the Porsche in the second race.
Not fair to the underpowered porche. It still rocked lol
Imagine that 911 with 700hp.....lol
With a Turbo S this wouldn’t even be fair.
You need 2 5 to beat the Ray.