How To Get A Perfect (Spray Paint) SHOW CAR Paint Job At Home (Super Slick)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video I show you how to take a rattle can paint job and turn it into a perfect show car paint job. i will share a ton of tips and tricks on the full process. What makes this spray paint job different is that it has been top coated with spraymax 2k rattle can clear. This stuff is super easy to spray and will make your paint job last for years. did I mention that this stuff buffs like crazy! Make sure to check out last weeks video to see how I applied the @RustOleumBrands turbo paint and the @spraymax high gloss spray paint clear, they will be listed below with the links to all the products.
Video Link for how to spray turbo can and spray max clear.
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Easily the best turbo paint demonstration on TH-cam. Proof of concept, excellent tutorial with DIYers in mind.
I have been on the fence about doing this with my project, or dropping money on compressors, air hoses, paint guns and product. It's one car and it can be done.
I appreciate your knowledge sharing, the time you put into this and your willingness to answer questions in the comments.
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Thank you!!! If you have the paint guns and compressor it's eaiser but I wanted to show you can get a good job with out it. Thanks for watching!!!
I didn’t see any instruction on how to paint
@@docdildonica7515 You're just being pedantic. The instruction on how to paint was in the totality of the video.
Did you need him to teach you how to hold the can? Place your index finger on the spray nozzle? How to move your arm back and forth?
The act of painting was thoroughly covered in this video series using a spray can. If you're unable to discern that, you should not be attempting to paint anything.
@@Mr.Wongburger huh? I guess I’m just daft. Maybe I have a learning disability- I didn’t get anything from this video. Sorry and cheers.
I’ve always dreamed of having a shop one day but my gravel driveway is probably as good as it’ll ever get. I’m 54 years old. I’m a decent mechanic. I do all my own and satisfy myself lol. I never been a paint and body guy though. I been trying to learn a little. I put floor pans in my 74 f100 last year and fixed a few other rust holes in the doors and body. I welded in metal , I didn’t put bondo over the rust holes. Lol
Hahaha you can do it, that's why I've been showing guys how to do this stuff outside because not everyone has a shop and I've done a ton of work outside lol. Your doing it right, weld them holes up!!!
Try putting up a car port
@@gottahavegoalsset that’s what I’m trying to do now. I’m wanting a concrete slab to put it on but I might have to accept that I just can’t afford it.
This is what I did, maybe you can look into it.
I too have a gravel driveway, what I did was-
Got 1 inch thick, horse stall mats. They’re about 8 ft by 4 ft.
I put those on my gravel spot.
I bought 8x4 ground contact 1/2 inch plywood, covered the entire thing making a 10x20 pad.
Then because I like being extra safe I bought 3/4 inch ground contact pressure treated plywood, screws that onto the 1/2 inch which is screwed to the mats.
Then I got me a 10x20 carport for $200.
I used pallet wood to make the work bench and put my Iroc z28 I’m building in there, it’s a lot better then crawling on gravel lol
(My car can fit in there completely. But with my engine lift, engine stand, tool box. It sticks out 2 feet. Which I don’t mind. But I wired up LED lights in there, which run off $60 solar panels I bought on Amazon. Then I have a 4 outlet adapter that’s connected to an extension cord for my welder, angle grinder etc
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This channel deserves more views and likes 💯%
Hahaha I totally agree, one thing being small is I get to talk to you guys, ive heard when you get big it gets overwhelming!!!
Enjoyed this series, from start to finish. Appreciate you passing on the knowlegde. 👍 for us home doers. Awesome work.
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Thank you very much for the support!!!
The shine on that panel is unbelievable to be rattled can. Great job and great video. You got me to subscribe.
Awesome thank you for the support!!!!
You really did a amazing job on that truck bed keep up the good work thanks for all of your knowledge that you are showing me and others
Thank you very much!!!!!
You’re right. That demo was unbelievable! Thanks man!
Thanks brother for all your support!!!
Ive been painting my motorcycle for the last week. Used some black spray bombs from the paint shop and the 2k clear. Def gonna use the maguires to cut n buff it. Thanks for the video brother. Sending paint fumes from Kentucky 😂
Awesome thank you very much, that meguires works awesome!!!
okay id just like to say theres not another youtube I've found on here that goes not only into this much detail but actually shows the results after a restoleum paint job. and black paint too, this is amazing for the next fewweeks imma be repainting my mustang, which is black using your steps.
Awesome thank you!! What year mustang are you workin on, I've had alot of them!!!
@@ACDesignsGarage my channel is tiny and i couldn't even find it so this is it.
Found this channel a few days ago love the spray paint series! Please keep it going! Great content as always!
Thank you very much I'm goin to try to. I usually do welding and fabrication but I'm a painter deep down lol.
Awesome thanks. You answered so many questions I would’ve had and taught so much in this series! Much appreciated 👍
Thanks, I'm glad I could help, I love passing on these tips.Body work is hard but very rewarding!!
Hack tip someone may have already mentioned, warm up your rattle cans before using. I always put my cans in a bucket of hot tap water for 15-20 minutes before using. Even spray the whole way through the can. Love the content brother!
Thank you, I think im gonna get a bucket and get one of those cattle probes that keep there water from freezing to keep the water hot lol
Nice I been waiting for this video !currently I’m letting the turbo can dry still before I wet sand and 2k clear !
Thank you!!! Jump on it, this stuff is amazing!!!
You never cease to impress me with your skill and knowledge. Great job. That was a lot of work on your part, and I for one appreciate all that you went through to make the video. Please keep the great videos coming.
Thank you very much for supporting me!!!
Best TH-cam channel I've found in a while.
Shit never would have thought that was a rattle can job.
I was shocked myself lol thanks for watching!!
Wow, just wow!🤩
Hahaha thank you!!!!!
Thanks! For showing that to another NC guy.
Thank you very much for your kindness!!!!
After watching the videos of this I can guarantee you there’s going to be many people more confident in doing this. I know I am.
I hope so. Thanks for watching.
Excellent excellent excellent excellent excellent thank you
Thank you very much!!!!
Way to go my friend. Looks amazing.
Thank you for the kind words!!!
Wow! That turned out great! Looking forward to seeing other videos. Thanks for the hard work.
Thank you very much!!!
Thanks for this unc
Thanks for the video. You seem like the kind of guy who would throw your hand up when driving by. 👋
I definitely would, alot of out of state people moved in here and look at you funny when you wave at them or open doors for them lol. I thought everyone did that hahahaha!!!
Thats amazing! Thats SEMA quality.
Thank you!!!!
amazing job
Thank you!!!!!
That's crazy good
Thank you!!!!
Thank you for your excellent presentation. It makes me think that I could repaint my Land Rover Defender
Your welcome, you can do it!!!
I’m 74 and past my sell by date!
Eastern NC DIY guy here. Finish looks great! I am going to have to give the Rustoleum a try !!
Awesome, you'll love it!!!
Outstanding! Thanks from Australia..
Thank you very much for watching!!!!
Man I have never seen such a contrasting difference. You are making me want to buff my black hummer 😂
Hahaha do it!!!!
Man buddy that is crazy nice for a bombshell great information and hard working in the heat and low cost you just can’t beat that now can you. God Bless you hey be safe out there
Thank you very much hope you have a Blessed day!!!!!
Awesome 👍👍
Thank you!!!!!
Makes Macco Paint jobs look like a finger painting in kindergarden compared to your art gallery job
Hahaha thank you!!!!
Macco wouldnt take the time to do it like this. Macco probably dont own sand paper less coarse than a 120gr
Maaco really is the worst. I manage a fleet of vehicles and my superiors like to get paint jobs done there when our paint starts to oxidize since they are so cheap. My last one had bubbles all throughout the paint, and the car before that had the worst orange peel for the entire car.
Thank you for your video, watching all the way from Adelaide, Australia. cheers
Awesome thank you for the support, its greatly appreciated!!!!
Damb looks good😮
Thank you!!!!
Love this content!! Thank you so much for showing us the hard slow work, instead of skipping to the finished product! Here to learn! Keep it up! SUPER underrated channel!
Thank you very much for the support!!!!
WOW Just WOW, Love your video's. Very nice work
Thank you very much!!!
Thank you sir 🙏
Thank you for watching!!!
Thanks!
Wow thank you very much!!!!
@@ACDesignsGaragemy pleasure thank you for the education
Nice job thanks for the FYI great video 👍👍👍😊😊😊
Thank you for watching!!!!
A very soft/fine wire brush works good for removing unwanted cutting compound from the cutting/buffing pads. Turned out really good btw
Thank you for the tip!! Thanks for watching!!!!
Good work and the good thing is you save time from taking it to a shop to get painted that can last 6-12 months to get it back good work impressive 💪👍💪
Your right and you can control the quality!!! Thank you for watching!!!
Nice simple techniques
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
here i am learning how to turbo can my car since i just painted my hood white today, i did 1k wet sand but i need ton buff it... also from NC, just stuck here in Spring lake.
Came out awesome! Looks sweet man! As we all know black is the hardest color to clean up and shine without every imperfection showing. I painted my friends Harley black ( in an auto body shop) and had to cut and buff so much to make it shine. Came out like black chrome! You got the same effect with rattle cans lol amazing buddy great work!
I bet that looked awesome, thanks man, I've been custom painting cars for 20 years with spray gins, figured I'd challenge myself hahahaha. Thanks for watching!!!!!
@@ACDesignsGarage hey it shows. Great work!
Man i subbed thats sime serious detail. Ive definitely learned alot from you.
Thanks for the sub!
Backyard Boogie Award Winner 🏆👏 🏅 🔥 Love the Content Bro! 🙏🏽
Same, not a hummer tho ❤️😹
Hahaha thank you!!!!!
Damn son!!! Need a slammed 68 to put that bed on ! Bad ass!!!
Hahaha I agree, gotta Slam my 2wd 87 surburban real quick and then on to the 65, 68 and 72, I kinda have a truck problem lol
Looking like glass! Good gravy! Good job, sir. Thank ya for doing this. Been thinking about spray bombing my beetle in pieces and then hitting each with spraymax. Now I know it works, I just might.
Awesome thanks for watching, what year beetle do you have, I have a 66
@@ACDesignsGarage An ugly bugly 74 standard that I put 66 hood and apron, fenders, and rear decklid and apron, and early t-bars on it to completely de-ugly it. 74s had those big collapsible bumpers and elephant foot tailights. Nasty. I've seen your 66! That's how I found your channel. I took the body off mine and refurbed the pan, new pan halves, discs all around, homemade airbag suspension. Your welding vids helped with that too! I have limited tools and no garage. Backyard boogie kinda thing. I'm about to start the bodywork and paint. So, that's why I've been following your rattle can vids. I painted the pan with turbo primer and turbo gloss black. Super fast but like you said orange peel like a mug. Lol. No biggie for the pan. But if I paint the body with rusto cans, I'd use the 5 in 1 cans and then spraymax. Your vids help me out a lot, man. Keep up the good work.
Unreal! I'm in a current project with rusted out wheel wells, (and other spots). After the repairs are done, I was wondering about this whole process over old paint, and new repair, blending, AND it's all outside, (blah, blah, blah...)! This made my decision much easier to move forward with, (the indecision of), "should I just spray paint the repair, then blend by cut & polish the rest...or wet sand the whole panel, then primer, paint, clear coat" so yeah, lets do the panel...I felt the whole CLEAR COAT, after the polishing, is really impressive! Thanks!
Thank you very much, I'm fixing to do the same to my 87 surburban!! Thanks for watching!!!!
@@ACDesignsGarage Hope I don't leave myself short on spray items. How many 12oz cans of clear coat, possibly estimate, to do one bed panel on a 1500 ram, two/three coats?
Many many moons ago, as a young 16year old getting into buying and selling cars, every-time i needed a paint job on an old motor, i would just mix up some unused paint from storage and either hand paint or roll-on-paint. Followed by sanding and polishing like you did and it always looked 95% or better afterwards. Spay cans came later when the profits built up.
I agree, when I was learning to paint my buddy had a body shop and he would give me his left overs to learn with. He was the only on that would show me how. That is what made me want to do this channel to share everything I know even if it's bad lol thanks for watching!!!
Hit engine blocks with a torch to dry any imbedded oil for a durable finish
Obviosly I came for the video subject and content but I subscribed because this dude is straight up cool. A guy I can see my self hanging with. Thanks for the content my man :)
Hello from GA
Thank you very much, we bought our 32 Ford out of calhoun Ga.
Looks good buddy…
Thank you very much!!!
I've wet sanded and buffed old Cadillacs like this. If people get tired sitting through this video, they're really really going to get tired actually doing this! 😆
Hahaha yeah for sure, it's not a fast process. I love some old caddys. I had a 65 4 door years ago.
Would like to see a Rustoleum turbo paint job and 2k clear coat, cut and buffed with denim pads to reduce the amount of sanding. Great job with the experiment.
Thank you, I've never tried the denim pads.
That actually came out great. 1st time I painted a car 30 years ago... it was bad bad lol. Was a metallic paint, I put too much hardener in it, shit was coming out like powder from the gun... metallic shit standing on end. Was a big ass 79 Cadillac. The only thing I solved was making it one color hahaha.
Thank you lol, I've had stuff blow up on me before like that hahahaha
Nice
Thank you!!!
Too good alright 👍 ya know it’s good when ya can she the whole inside of ya work shop …
Hahaha thank you, I couldn't believe how clear the pannel looked!!!
@@ACDesignsGarage blew me away too
Wow she is clean
Thank you!!!!!
Looks amazing you’re really making this seem a lot easier than it should be lol. Any tips for doing a whole car ? And again i love your work and ur videos inspiring me to try and learn new things with every vid
Thank you very much!!! The sanding is the worst part but the buffing is so rewarding!! If I were to do a whole car I start sanding with the 2000 grit, do the whole car ,then move to the 2500 grit check the whole car then start the m105 finish that then move to the m205. I do the whole car with every process so I don't miss a part of the car. I plan on doing a whole car pretty soon!
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Yea buddy
Beautiful job❤😊
Thank you very much!!!!
Can you sand the base coat before putting the clear on? Would that help if base coat is orange peeled or striped? Thanks
Yes it would help a ton, I would wet sand with 600 on a block and sand till flat then clear. You wouldn't have to sand near as much when cut and buffing. I would of but I had to make several different videos doing different stages
Thanks for the video, turned out great. I didn't see a link for the pads you use, what are the thicker ones that you use for the finishing ? Also, what is your recommended protective finish for after polishing ? 🤘
Unbelievable very nice what clear did you use!!!! Was it all with spray cans very nice dam it!!!!!!!
Yes all spray can, I couldn't believe it eaither lol
Watching from over here in Tennessee,, SON, that's looking good.Both my vehicle's are Black, think I'll do the same..
I love Tennessee, If I would ever move that's where I'd go!!! It's holding up pretty good!!!!
@@ACDesignsGarage Yeah I'm not far at all from the NC border 45 min from Ashville.
Man, cutting and buffing takes forever manual hand sanding. I feel bad for your back and arms, lol. It's totally worth it though. I'm a beginner and I would never want to do it manual. I'd rather shell out $300 for the big foot any day. Awesome job! What a difference.
Thank you, yeah it's tough. You can do it faster with a DA sander then block by hand the last little bit ,then use the rupes da polisher. I was trying to keep it simple for the beginner. But your right this is the hard way lol.
@@ACDesignsGaragehey bud, I painted my truck exactly how you did this bed, spray max cleared it. Cut it and buffed it and it looks amazing for 2-3 days, then the clear gets foggy or cloudy in some areas. Any ideas on what would cause that?
Hey bro. I recently ran across your channel. I've been looking for someone to paint my toyota highlander and you seem to strike me as the real deal. I live in NC and I'm interested in letting you do the work. Let me know if I can contact you to get the ball rolling. You do great work
@@828style LOOK acdesigns, I got you some work! lmao :)
@@thomasseiter9841 Probably didn't sand/polish correctly. Once the polish came off it went back to cloudy. I bet if you put a wax on it or ceramic coating, it would look great again. Sounds like you didn't buff it right though.
Just wanted to say that this turned out so amazing that i will be going this route myself. Super super impressed, would you recommend only wet sanding for the final polish or would it be okay to dry sand with a sander and some soft paper
You can do eaither, the reason I like wetsanding is no dust and your sand paper last 3 times longer cause it will wash out!!!!
What polishes did u use and what compounds looks good have u used butter wax that works miracles on black paint jobs but u my friend did an Amazing job with garage house hold products
I use meguiars m105 for cutting and 205 for polish, it's pretty cheap and you can get it at harborfreight
I would love your help. Im in Australia and I want to put a vy commodore wagon number plate assembly into a vy commodore ute tailgate. I will send some photos. Keep up the good work. Cheers John
Would like to see you do one on paint guns
I may try that before long, wasn't sure if anyone would like to see that!!!
Will this paint work on plastic bumpers?
What kind of spray paint did you use for this it is coming out awesome
The black was rustoleum turbo and the clear was spray max 2k clear!!!
When you cut the 2k clear what pad did you use. Thanks so much. Talent
I usually start with 1500 grit then go to 2000 or 2500 grit then buff with meguiars m105 compound.
I'm impressed with how that paint job came out! My question is with the supplies and effort will it work on fiber class? I have a 1980 Vette that needs a paint job and to get it painted will cost around 15k and up!
Yes it will work, I prep fiber glass the same way I do metal from the primer stage up. If your paint is not chipping you could just wet sand 600 then start spraying!!!
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Rinse and use a drying towel 🙌🙏
You gotta get you a tarp my guy!
The funny thing is my shop has air conditioning lol
I’m watching the series and slight confused. Did you do 2 coats on the first side followed by a cut/buff then you did 2 coats on the driver side skipped cut/buff and jumped right into 2k clear coat? I also noted you had more distance on the 2nd side it orange peeled less, so far am I right?
Yes, sorry for the confusion. Yes the first one I did 2 coats then cut and buffed. The other side I figured out if I had more distance the peel was less,( always experimenting lol) as soon as the paint was tacked up I shot the 2k clear then I let it dry a day or two then cut and buffed. That 2k clear was amazing!!
What about the pads for the DA sander?
Tha DA makes life much eaiser. I would 1000, then 2000 then 3000 grit wet on the da then buff
First off thank you for these videos! They are very helpful! I just painted my car yesterday and ran into a slight issue and was wondering if you could give me your input.
I got the car fully covered with paint, and put on multiple layers. However I think I held the can too far away (especially on the roof) I noticed the surface is very gritty in areas. Not like an orange peel but more of a sandpaper gritty texture. I want to put the 2k clear on the car to finish it but here is the question. Would you wet sand the car and put another paint layer on top before the 2k clear or just wet sand and clear??
Awesome, it sounds like it's a little dry sprayed in areas. It happens to all of us. If it were me I would wet sand the whole area with like 600 grit then let it tac and shoot the 2k to it, it will give you a slicker job. Now you can just wetsand it again with 600 to 800 grit lightly as long as you dont cut through your color then you can 2k clear it. These are the two options that I would do. Hope this helps, thanks for watching!!!!
@@ACDesignsGarage thank you sir!! I will wet sand it down in a few days. 1 more question, since I had a lot of dry spray the paint also came out very dull. Once I put the 2k clear coat on top does it make any difference if the paint underneath the clear was glossy or dull/matte? Or does 100% of the shine come from the clear coat and the shine of the paint underneath doesn’t really matter? I’m trying to get the car as glossy as possible and don’t mind spraying another layer of paint after the 600 grit sand if that will help it be more shiny at the end of the project 🙌
Where you located at in NC? Excellent work dude
Just north of Charlotte
Looks pretty fkn good
Thank you!!!!
I got a corvette that’s in need of a paint job, might have to try this on a budget, but question will this paint work on fiberglass
Yeah id say it would fine!!
Little un related but since your painting you may know. I used ruatoleum bed coating for the bed but accidentally used on it platic trim and now it doesnt absord regualr paint well. How can i remove the bed coating spray off the plastic trim so i can re spray them with a trim spray paint? Thanks!
If it's thick, you can use a rag and some lacquer thinner and soften it and scrape it off with a plastic squeegee. But try it in a hidden spot if you can to make sure everything is gonna be OK. You can try to wet sand it off with 320 grit if your gonna repaint it if it's hard!
@@ACDesignsGarage appreciate the reply , thanks from your new subscriber
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You just inspired me to spray my fiberglass fender and hood 🫡 wish me luck
Awesome you'll do great!!!
How long did you sand with 1500, 2000, and 2500 grit until the side panel was fully smooth?
It's pretty close to the video, I try not to cut much out.
If you get a chance I would love to see how to put 2k clear on patina. I got a 74 f100 I’m wanting to do. I can’t pay to do it and really don’t know how. I don’t know how much sanding should be done or if any. Like I said I don’t what to do and don’t have the money to pay someone who does
You can do it, I have a 65 c10 that's old patina but I'm gonna leave it as is. The only problem with clearing it that it's still gonna rust underneath it and make a mess when it starts flaking. I like that sweet patina sauce if I were gonna put something on it. But I'll tell ya how to if you still want to. I would red scotch brite and degreaser and clean it good then spray it, I would use the satin spray max so it looked natural or gloss your choice. Hope this helped thanks for watching!!!
So how long after clear do you need to wait to wet sand and buff ?
I usually wait till the next day!!!!!
Would love to see you do this on plastic. Like the hood of a JD lawn mower.
Not the details on this video. My plastic hood is looking sad.
Ill see if we can find something simular to that, custom paint that puppy lol!!!!
Would liketo see it in a year after getting some miles & weather on it.
Ill try to remember lol
Should I do this to the base coat or should I do it to the clear coat
You can do the base if your using the eustoleum gloss black, but it won't hold up like the clear.I did a video a while back I'll list it below on polishing the gloss black.
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Question. The side that you did the 2k clear, you didn't do anything as far as cutting the paint, correct? I'm wondering if you do the clear coat, do you have to worry if the base coat has orange peel or if that goes away once you clear it. Thanks.
Yes I just shot the clear on it as soon as it was tacky. Now if you want to wait a few days you could wet sand with 600 till it was flat the 2k clear it, there would be very little sanding when it came time to cut and buff. The reason I didn't is because I was making different videos! Thanks for watching!!!!
Question- you mentioned earlier that if the dust isn't whitish clear, then you have cut into the paint color. But isn't the orange peel in the paint? How does wet sanding the clear you sprayed over the paint correct the orange peel that was in the paint?.
Basically when you have orange peel in the bottom coat, every coat above that has the same texture it just keeps building up. So what I do is put more clear than I need over the orange peel . Use a sanding block and cut it flat. It fills in the low places of the orange peel and cuts off the high places. It's kinda like using body filler over very small dents!!!
It's okay to talk to yourself you can argue with yourself too but when you start having a fist fight with yourself you know you have problems.
Outside of that you have good content you stay on topic which is something that I do appreciate thank you very much
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Thank you very much, It does take a ton of time but I like to help people!!
Is it worth doing 3M 3 step compounding over the single ultra cut meguiars? This 2k looks like glass now. Unbelievable.
Thank you, I haven't tried 3m stuff in years, I use to love it , it will probably work great. I found this stuff at harborfreight and loved it. Now saying that it works best on a DA style machine instead of a roatery machine for some reason.
Man I don't wet sand anything anymore I use a orbital finish sander with interface pad
It's definitely faster. Thanks for watching!
@@ACDesignsGarage I use Sherwin Williams there clears are very nice