Good to hear it User. An old industry friend bought one last month, and compared it to the 'table in a close friend's high end system. The friend's 'table / cart cost roughly 3 x the DP-3000NE. He mentioned how little difference they both heard, and feels the DP-3000NE is one of the best value buys he's ever made
I have the Denon Dp60l I bought in Japan back in 1981. It also has the vertical adjustable tone arm and has a very reliable quartz lock system with a 0.004 wow and flutter measurement. It also stops at the end of the record playing. I paid $370 for that and a very good audio-Technica cartridge. I find it ridiculous that a very similar player would cost $3500 today?
@@igorbelozyorov9447 Hello Igor, there is a very sophisticated set of algorithms keeping the speed dead-on accurate. You can literally let this 'table run for days and it will still measure spot-on
Hi Larry, both really good units, and at pretty much the same price. A big trade-off is whether you like the immediate up-to-speed feature of a direct drive 'table, which of course the Denon offers. Both 'tables sound really good and both are very well made
That platter looks a tiny bit wobbly (at 2:02) but it might be the camera angle or improper placement of the platter. You have two holes in it to be able to put it back and align it with the spindle. Dropping it like on the video is not too good 😢
Nice, er, except I sometimes have to spin the platter by hand to center a record for archiving work. That's easy to do on a Technics deck, but it looks like that would be very difficult to do on this Denon deck. I regard that as a pretty significant design flaw.
Hello Ain, do you mean rotating the platter so that the record label / title etc are easy to read? That's not too difficult on this unit. Let us know if you mean something more in depth at ask@gramophone.com
@@GramophoneMD I mean that sometimes I have to spin the deck platter by hand to check for off-center spindle holes, and make adjustments accordingly. I couldn't spin the platter on the Denon deck loaded with an LP, by hand, without actually putting my hands on the record surface. That's unacceptable to me.
I love this TT...only problem this is no longer being manufactured by Denon. This TT is a Hanpin OEM build in China. Nothing against China, my laptop and cellphone were made there too, but at this price point there is some stiff competition. The Technics SL-1210GR2 is a close competitor, but I understand not everyone wants or needs all the DJ 'furniture'. I still may pick one of these up with a decent cartridge.
@@marcse7enI've got about 50 yrs in audio, beg to differ, although I haven't listened to any really high end - as in $4k plus - direct drive. But the belt drives I've owned and listened to - Rega, Linn, my Oracle Delphi 2 - are all superior to any direct drive I've heard. Much better.
@@countdebleauchamp Well, as you clearly think that 5 years makes you an authority over myself, we'll have to agree to disagree then, won't we? Everybody is entitled to an opinion. You have yours. I have mine! ... Personally, I don't think a "rubber band" cuts it, compared to advanced electromechanical engineering! Incidentally, as you clearly dislike Direct Drive tables, it begs the question, WHY did you watch a video about same? Also incidentally, when did you last seen a Belt Drive CD Player or Hard Disk Drive? ... Those devices require PRECISION, which a "rubber band" cannot deliver!
Denon is so proud of their heavy platter...that the weight does not appear anywhere in their specs, just inertia. I happen to have a bathroom scale at home. They don't? And that wobble of the platter after install is not going to sound good for any LP with pitch stability!
Hi Only, good point - we knew we would be packing up the deck and shipping it for display in one of our stores, so we did not take care of the details that we would if we were delivering it to a customer. Blame me for that one!
I bought this turntable and it is SWEET. Platter is perfectly machined unlike the wobble I see in this video. You are not doing Denon or Gramophone a very good service with this video my friend.@@GramophoneMD
Thank you for your comment CPG, we'll try and do better next time. We just hit the highlights here, as we're editing a more detailed video discussion with Denon's product manager. We'll link to that video as soon as it's ready
I'm always "slightly disappointed" when high-end audio products are (predictably) "Made in China." Additionally, I don't like that the Denon name is "skewed" on the platter surround. It looks like it was assembled with a lack of care at the (Chinese) factory! There's nothing "special" or "revolutionary" here, if you'll forgive the pun. Technics have been doing this for literally DECADES. It's nothing new. I believe, unlike some, that well-engineered Direct Drive is superior to Belt Drive. It's much more precise. After all, when did you last see a Belt Drive CD Player, or a Belt Drive Hard Disk Drive?
Thanks Marcse7en, yes, both Technics and Denon have been making quality direct drives for decades, since the early '70's. The cool bit Denon has done here is their new method of keeping the speed regulated so precisely. In our listening, this 'table is a good value vs others in the general price range.
Hi Stanley, many (even most) higher-end 'tables nowadays are not auto or semi-automatic. But after-market arm lifters that lift the tonearm when it finishes the album side are popular, preventing wear-out on one side of the stylus. Reach out to us if we can help you with this: ask@gramophone.com
Drop the platter next time guy
Just ordered one - can't wait! (It's replacing a DP-60L I bought new back in '79/'80 that just gave up the ghost last week.)
Good to hear it User. An old industry friend bought one last month, and compared it to the 'table in a close friend's high end system. The friend's 'table / cart cost roughly 3 x the DP-3000NE. He mentioned how little difference they both heard, and feels the DP-3000NE is one of the best value buys he's ever made
I have the Denon Dp60l I bought in Japan back in 1981. It also has the vertical adjustable tone arm and has a very reliable quartz lock system with a 0.004 wow and flutter measurement. It also stops at the end of the record playing. I paid $370 for that and a very good audio-Technica cartridge. I find it ridiculous that a very similar player would cost $3500 today?
Well, that is $1,200 today. Is all the new technology, motor, materials and build quality worth three times the price? Maybe.
Good point. The retail of this 'table is actually $2,500 USD@@shinjukutrain
As far as I can see there is no quartz lock system in this new one.
@@igorbelozyorov9447 Hello Igor, there is a very sophisticated set of algorithms keeping the speed dead-on accurate. You can literally let this 'table run for days and it will still measure spot-on
It would be nice a comparison between this Denon and Technics sl 1200 gr 2.
Yes, both 'tables are similarly priced, and both have really impressed us
I wonder how it compares to the pro-ject x8?
Hi Larry, both really good units, and at pretty much the same price. A big trade-off is whether you like the immediate up-to-speed feature of a direct drive 'table, which of course the Denon offers. Both 'tables sound really good and both are very well made
Nice! Is this on display at the Columbia store?
Hello Spiral, we sent our demo to Columbia and they have it on display as part of our Mc 275 system. Please stop by and bring a favorite album 🙂
That platter looks a tiny bit wobbly (at 2:02) but it might be the camera angle or improper placement of the platter. You have two holes in it to be able to put it back and align it with the spindle. Dropping it like on the video is not too good 😢
Agreed Portwill, sometimes when making a video you're trying to keep track of a lot of things at once 🙂
@@GramophoneMD anyhow, I love your content, keep up the good work ;)
I noticed the rough-handling of the platter! You don't treat an expensive table like that!
what a beauty 😍
Nice, er, except I sometimes have to spin the platter by hand to center a record for archiving work. That's easy to do on a Technics deck, but it looks like that would be very difficult to do on this Denon deck. I regard that as a pretty significant design flaw.
Hello Ain, do you mean rotating the platter so that the record label / title etc are easy to read? That's not too difficult on this unit. Let us know if you mean something more in depth at ask@gramophone.com
@@GramophoneMD I mean that sometimes I have to spin the deck platter by hand to check for off-center spindle holes, and make adjustments accordingly.
I couldn't spin the platter on the Denon deck loaded with an LP, by hand, without actually putting my hands on the record surface. That's unacceptable to me.
Link to interview?
Please accept our apologies Jerry, that one's not yet ready. We should be able to post it in the next 48 hours
Hi Jerry, you can now find the link to our interview with Emmanuel in the description. Thank you for your patience
I love this TT...only problem this is no longer being manufactured by Denon. This TT is a Hanpin OEM build in China. Nothing against China, my laptop and cellphone were made there too, but at this price point there is some stiff competition. The Technics SL-1210GR2 is a close competitor, but I understand not everyone wants or needs all the DJ 'furniture'. I still may pick one of these up with a decent cartridge.
Hello Wander, thank you for your note. The design / engineering work on this 'table is all Denon, then is built buy a vendor partner
Should be "Made in Japan."
Audio Technica tables are Chinese, and they're garbage!
I'm more a fan of belt drive, just based on my lifetime listening, but that turntable looks nice. Like the look much better than the technics.
Thanks Count, this is a really good turntable. A friend of ours has been a life-long belt drive fan, just got this one, and says he's never going back
In my 45 years experience, Belt Drive is "imprecise" and inferior to well-engineered Direct Drive.
@@marcse7enI've got about 50 yrs in audio, beg to differ, although I haven't listened to any really high end - as in $4k plus - direct drive. But the belt drives I've owned and listened to - Rega, Linn, my Oracle Delphi 2 - are all superior to any direct drive I've heard. Much better.
@@countdebleauchamp Well, as you clearly think that 5 years makes you an authority over myself, we'll have to agree to disagree then, won't we? Everybody is entitled to an opinion. You have yours. I have mine! ... Personally, I don't think a "rubber band" cuts it, compared to advanced electromechanical engineering!
Incidentally, as you clearly dislike Direct Drive tables, it begs the question, WHY did you watch a video about same?
Also incidentally, when did you last seen a Belt Drive CD Player or Hard Disk Drive? ... Those devices require PRECISION, which a "rubber band" cannot deliver!
Sales pitch
Denon is so proud of their heavy platter...that the weight does not appear anywhere in their specs, just inertia. I happen to have a bathroom scale at home. They don't?
And that wobble of the platter after install is not going to sound good for any LP with pitch stability!
Hi Only, good point - we knew we would be packing up the deck and shipping it for display in one of our stores, so we did not take care of the details that we would if we were delivering it to a customer. Blame me for that one!
I bought this turntable and it is SWEET. Platter is perfectly machined unlike the wobble I see in this video. You are not doing Denon or Gramophone a very good service with this video my friend.@@GramophoneMD
Feels exactly like a QVC pitch. Gramophone needs to up their game. Yikes!
Thank you for your comment CPG, we'll try and do better next time. We just hit the highlights here, as we're editing a more detailed video discussion with Denon's product manager. We'll link to that video as soon as it's ready
nice table - but the aesthetics of this video scream 1984
Thanks for your comment Guy. We had some technical difficulties this time that you are unlikely to see again 🙂
I'm always "slightly disappointed" when high-end audio products are (predictably) "Made in China." Additionally, I don't like that the Denon name is "skewed" on the platter surround. It looks like it was assembled with a lack of care at the (Chinese) factory!
There's nothing "special" or "revolutionary" here, if you'll forgive the pun. Technics have been doing this for literally DECADES. It's nothing new.
I believe, unlike some, that well-engineered Direct Drive is superior to Belt Drive. It's much more precise. After all, when did you last see a Belt Drive CD Player, or a Belt Drive Hard Disk Drive?
Thanks Marcse7en, yes, both Technics and Denon have been making quality direct drives for decades, since the early '70's. The cool bit Denon has done here is their new method of keeping the speed regulated so precisely. In our listening, this 'table is a good value vs others in the general price range.
Yet it's not an automatic or semi automatic. That's a silly omission! That's why I won't buy one.
Hi Stanley, many (even most) higher-end 'tables nowadays are not auto or semi-automatic. But after-market arm lifters that lift the tonearm when it finishes the album side are popular, preventing wear-out on one side of the stylus. Reach out to us if we can help you with this: ask@gramophone.com
Chinese junk. Buy denon dp60L, 59L, 62L etc and throw that in the bin