For people that start to have audio issues over ~600 Mbps, try turning off the audio from the quest 3 and get the audio from headphones connected to the PC separately instead (say with bluetooth). This worked for me, allowed me to crank the bit rate beyond 600!
so it all started with installing a custom (bloat free) os then after realizing i still needed more performance i started one by one turning all of my services off until i got them around 90 at startup . thank you your video was the last step i was missing to achieve maximum power from my ageing rtx 3070. ac has never looked more beautiful.
have you noticed performance issues when going over 500? i tried setting it to 800 and was having frame drops but i dont know if it was that or another setting i changed
@@eternalglow6483had the same issues, figured out a potential solution. Try muting the audio from the quest 3 and get the audio from the PC separately say through a Bluetooth headset or something. Worked for me with a MX4 connected directly to my PC via Bluetooth.
I wanted to thank you for getting me set up for my first VR flight on MSFS. It was amazing! I had flown on the PC before but the VR took it to new heights.
@@HamVR Hello friends, i have a 2080TI do you think it would be able to run MS2020 in Quest 3? I'm thinking of purchasing the Quest 3, but not much piont if my 2080TI won't do it.
@@HamVR hello. I intend to get the kuject cable as well. I had horrendous time playing Euro Truck Sim using Air Link. But I’m wondering if my hardware is good enough. Ryzen 5 5500. 16GB DDR4, RTX 3050.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 it’s been 3 months , so you probably took a decision already , but it depends on your settings. My 4090 wich is many times more powerful struggles to run ms 2020 on Vr at a crisp resolution with all settings completely maxed out above 80fps And even if it does, my 5800X3D wich is equivalent to - Ryzen 7700X and veery slightly below an i5 13500K, wich is a great next gen processor , and it gets dpi bottlencekc at about 60 fps some times. It really is a hard game to run if you push it. However it does have quite configurable settings , if you play at a lower resolution with low terrain LOD and low texture load distances etc. you should be able to handle it fine with a 2089 and a normal CPU
Thank you so much. I'm a DCS nut who jumped feet 1st into VR with the Pimax Crystal light. It was a horrible experience. So I sent it back and got the quest 3. The image was better than the Cristal light but still worse than my 1440p monitor. I know vr was more demanding, but the quest was killing my 7950x, and I was lucky to be using 30% of my 4090. After trying everything, I could find I was about ready to give up on VR. Then I found your video. Now I can see why people say vr is so much better than a monitor. I still have a slight CPU issue, but I can't see spending $600 when I'm getting 100 very smooth FPS.
I've been using an Odyssey+ for years, but just ordered my Q3 yesterday, should arrive in time for the weekend. This information is quite valuable, thanks!
finally.. someone who talks sense.. and doesnt grandstand.. weather this works or not.. i appreciate your style.. Im running a 4060.. 13700f 64 gb of ram.. and still getting ridiculous stutter in pcvr
@@Spooteriffic The 4060 is your bottleneck. If you don't adequately decrease the resolution, you're effectively trying to run 2 4k monitor on a card marketed for 1080p gaming. For most games, the 8gb of vram just isn't enough
Great explanations, great guidance, exactly what I was looking for. There is so much click-bait you need to get through before actually getting to someone who has done the work to be able to teach others about this thing. A definite sub from me, thanks so much for the work put into this. Ironically, this channel has only about 7k subs, which is typical for this kind of great quality. Please - sub this guy. We need quality to range above the click-baity stuff!
OMG!!! This worked for me, i used the exact same settings with Mobile ASW disabled and PC ASW 45fps forced in debug tool and 90fps in Oculus Software, no more jittery mess! Edit: look in comment below if you still get jitter.
@@HamVR rtx 2070 & amd 3600, in asgard´s wrath. These settings made it much smoother, but i got jitter again. I changed my main audio while i was getting the jitter and it stopped! Edit: had the jitter again, with 45 ASW, and matching main/oculus sound with 16-bit. This time it was enough to push the on/off button 2 times, so the screen turns off/on. Don't know how this is such a mess, but at least now i get to play longer before the jitter starts and make it go away easier.
@@HamVR I got jitters again after a long play session, and i think it has something to do with the mirrored game running full screen and having the console window up in Windows 11. Whenever i get jitter again, the main game window pops in front of the console window and the on/off trick doesn't always work either. Now i've turned off vsync globally. But i'll test later tonight, have stuff to do, if the jitter doesn't come back i'll be playing the whole time :p Bit sad it's a multitude of solutions, but i feel like i'm getting there or on to something. Edit: it happened again with vsync off, i tried messing with the sound again, but i don't think it's the sound. When i right click on the sound icon, the Start taskbar stays open, doesn't go back to the game mirror and stops jittering. I don't know what to make of all of this, last test i'm gonna do is keep the taskbar open without the console window. Edit 2: I tried it with only the taskbar open and not the console window, and for now it's buttery smooth.
I use a OC 3060 12GB for Automobilista 2 and Half Life Alyx, thru a wired Pico4. The performance is pretty decent! Playable framerates with turned down graphic settings but still good looking.
Very nice. Personally I'll stick to 90Hz as I don't like the trade off of squeezing more frames (at 120Hz) into the same or less bit rate, the codec compression becomes more apparent to me. This is where dedicated display port headsets really shine, compared to compressed video solutions.
They did not include $2 worth of parts to make displayport work over usb-c protocol so they could sell you that $80 cable... that requires janky software and extra load/latency on the gpu...
What do u mean ? If i link my quest 3 to my laptop in usb C port this is why i have stuttering and lags ? (Even if it recognizes the cable) If i plug my quest 3 into the usb-3 port, it will work better ?
Thanks for the video some great tips. Just to share in the hope it helps others, I have a Wifi 6e router in my man cave (linked to main router in hallway via LAN over power) and run steam link. it's so easy to setup it's a real joy. Still get the occasional glitch but it is more than tolerable (can even run 120 FPS) and seems to get better over time. Other options to charge at the same time is the KKCOBVR A2.
Great video. Subscribed. I’ve just updated my rig from a Rift S on an 1080ti on an 8700k which worked perfectly but a bit slow these days. Went with a quest 3 on a 7900xtx with a 7900x3d. It’s absolutely horrible in msfs, image quality is super but the blurring and stutters when I move my head, makes me sick. I’ve tried about 290 different things and not one thing has worked consistently. This video has given me about another 15 things to try. Hopefully I’ll fix it before the 7900xtx return window closes.
Hi, thank you for making great informative content!! I got the quest 3 and 2 and an index running on an 4090. I still run the index becuase of the stability and no need for controllers. It never fails, just always works. But i do miss the resolution from the quest 3. I think i would use it more if it worked more like the index without need for controllers and activating link manually every time. Just start the game from steam and put on the headset and i'm good to go, just like the index. Is there anyway i can get the quest 3 to work like that? Best Regards
Great vid - I’ve been messing with VDXR and Oculus link and come to same conclusion - link is still best and the other benefit is ASW much better than SSW (VD) for MSFS
not sure i understood right, you said that the cable with the charger was fine on quest 2 but we are talking about quest 3 here... shows as 18w over the quest 2 10w. does that means that if i use the cable with quest 3 it will melt the cable or quest 3 while using it?
I’m saying that the Quest 3 consumes more power the Quesr 2, 18w. The USB power output of most PCs is typically 15w, so you will need a USB cable that allows for additional power adaptor input to maintain charge while you use it wired to your PC. You can turn the screen brightness down and disable WiFi to extend game play time also. The USB cable that comes in box is too short to use for wired PCVR mode, but is fine for charging the Quest 3 when not in use.
Thanks for the video, really great tips! I got a cable with an extra usb one can use as power supply and it pretty much maintains the headset power where it was. I was reluctant to get a quest3 due to my pc being somewhat outdated now (i9-9900k, geforce 2080 super), but for the price I thought I'd give it a try. I was a bit skeptical because of the latency, too, but it runs reasonably well at 72hz and the latency is almost unnoticeable :D
Great video. What confuses me is. They are not using direct dp port to video card. Instead opted for usbc with software to video card interpolation. What's the point in using a graphics card? Meta should have done a better job with that. Usb C video rendering is a waste of cpu power...
Hi great video - Does the debug tool have to be running for its settings to take effect? I cant set what I want then not bother starting it up after that unless I want to tweak?
@@hypewilkens I had the issue with Quest3 in PCVR where picture was not stable, but thanks to this video and comment from HamVR, I went back and changed it back to H264 for the video codec, which made it all brilliant for me. Look at 11:04.
I was close to buy a Quest 3, but as i see, this will work dependin in the PC hardware, so first I have to upgrade my PC to run high performance software
Hey i have a laptop dell g15 gaming i7 rtx 3060 16Gb ram i cant play with Alyx or walking Dead...even in the Steam VR menu it is stuttering and too many lags...😢
When I open the meta link app from quest, the screen is to Close, how to adjust the screen position? When I try to play games, there is always mouse cursor in the center although I already move the cursor to the edge of my screen with mouse.
I just bought this headset and i just realised they dont give the cable for pc connection ... I'm really trying to reship it and go for another brand just because of that ...
so i'm gonna be using mine for vrchat and other hangout games primarily, is my laptop rtx 2070 enough, the steam vr test said it was. but not sure how accurate it is.
Thanks for this very helpful video. We were trying unsuccessfully to watch on a PC screen via link cable what the headset was showing and so the tip about oculus mirror was great. But we can’t find anyway back to start a game loaded on the meta quest 3. I just want to watch on the screen Jurassic World Aftermath as my grandson plays it on his quest 3. We tried casting to the phone but it was small and choppy. How can I watch it on the PC screen? Thanks.
Are you trying to spectate a Quest 3 standalone game? Unfortunately there is no great way to do that. You can try Side Quest screen copy but there's a lot of steps to follow to setup. Alternatively upgrading your Wifi router to 6e and having it the same room as the Quest 3 would help with the choppyness. If your PC is plugged into the same router you can try cast to computer option as per this video th-cam.com/video/x4fI0-JGLIU/w-d-xo.html
is the quest 3s good for pcvr? with wire obviously. thing is i need a usbc to the 3.0 because my pc a lil older and does not have a usb c input. got some older pc specs. i5 4690k cpu lmfao
I got a Gygabite x870 elite wifi 7 motherboard expecting to use the USB4 type-c 40 Gbps ports, but the oculus app says it is only a USB 3 1.5 Gbps. I even got higher speeds on my old B350 motherboard.
Appreciate the guide. Still feel like I can't completely get rid of the feint compression artefacts on distant backgrounds. It's a pain not having direct input like with an Index as your streaming performance quality is eating into the game performance.
Yes DisplayPort is still king. That's why I like the Pimax Crystal. You can get less artifacting if you play at 72Hz, as you will be squeezing less frames into the same bandwidth.
hello, If i plug the cable into the USB Thunderbolt port, do I need to plug the charger to the cable as well? Because the thunderbolt port gives power for the headset + power from the charger.. will I fry the headset :))) or must I use the normal USB 3 port with this cable? Thank you
Currently running DCS outside steam and now it does not load into my headset via every time I check DCS for the VR setting to be active the game starts to load and stop loading any ideas please.
Last week I purchased the QUEST 3. I am very overwhelmed in that I love it, but on the other hand experience many problems. The games (I have about ten of them) stutter after a few minutes, which is frustrating. So I bought a video cable for the QUEST 3, putting it into use wasn't exactly easy either, but more or less succeeded after I finally got confirmation via Firefox. This confirmation did not succeed because Firefox is not compatible with the QUEST LINK. Now the image freezes after a few minutes when I use Steamlink via the QUEST LINK cable. I have a Gaming Laptop I9 14900 and an RTX 4090 and 64 GB of memory.
Did you make sure you were connected to a 3.1/2 USB port? You should really get at least 1.4/5 GBs of transfer speed while "test USB" on the Meta link app, otherwise you'll be getting those laggy frame drops...
Hello there! I got my quest 3 a few days ago, checked some guides and tried to play Assetto Corsa Competizione, but it looks blurry. I tried everything! Any tips to make it work? Thanks and nice video!
Try a higher headset resolution at 72Hz. Don’t use the VR epic graphics preset as the VR render resolution is set to high at 140% (lower it to 100/120%). Turn down the number of visible opponent cars.
I can’t find the “Oculus app” that allows all the tweaking. It keeps taking me to meta quest link which works but allows no setting changes. What am I missing? Edit seems link app has replaced oculus app
I had a look at Oculus Killer and it looks like it introduces a bunch of other issues like breaking supporting for Oculus runtime games unless you switch to using Revive. It also means you need to use SteamVR OpenXR runtime, which doesn't work as well as the Oculus OpenXR runtime for OpenXR games on Quest.
i need help, i dont want to play VR games i just want a headset that can hook to docked Rog ally x by a single wire and play normal games in a widescreen theatre setting without losing power. i know this video is old but can the quest3S do this?
Thank you for the video . Its 3 week struggling with this quest3 for f1. I got a rtx 3070 . What refresh rate , resolution on the quest, render resolution, resolution on f1, encoded birate that i should run. I know i am asking for much but i need help run this game . Thanks you in advance
I would set it at 72Hz, Render Resolution 1.0 (increase if you have performance headroom - check the performance HUD), Steam VR 100% (Custom )Resolution and in game settings see my F122 settings video on a 3090 based on VR Medium preset th-cam.com/video/WHDZ7zKvRlA/w-d-xo.html For the encode bitrate, if you link cable gives you a good speed test go for 940Mbps and only reduce if you get connection drops.
When i connect my quest 3, it says (USB 3.0 connection recommended) im using usb 3.0 link cable with a 3.2 port on my motherboard, i tried everything :( what am i doing wrong
Top bloke, Thanks a lot for these settings, ive owned almost every VR headset vive pro, valve index, hp reveb being the "best" hedsets but none of them have ran project cars 2 as good as the quest 3 with these settings, finally the jaggies are gone, the stutters are gone and the resolution and graphics are stunning by comparison, i have a 3090 i7-9700k and was always annoyed that i could never optimize this game even with decent pc specs. I dont have money at the moment but I will try to remember to come back and use your affiliate link for the powered usb cable. again thanks
I've got the same processor with a 4090, I've had such troubles trying to get things running good in vr. I tought it was the processor. Any ideas tips to get things running better?
@@joostvanh1217 to be honest i think an i7-9700k might be a bottleneck with a 4090 but you should still be able to run vr games and get good results. Unfortunately vr is not easy and there is a hole hoast of reasons you might be struggeling. What headset? Wired/wireless? What game? What software are you using ie steam vr, steam link, quest link, what issues are you having
in 5:55, the option to keep going just doesn't appear. I have tried with the cable and conecting the quest 3 to the same wifi as my pc, but it just doesn't appear in airlink, or the cable place of the video itself. I have tried many things and none of them seem to work, either is for wifi or via cable. what can I do?, I really want to connect my pc to the quest 3, so I have a monitor on the vr. What can I do?, I feel like is at the tip of my fingers and I just can't reach it So, when I connect the cable and the pc, I can see the galery of the quest 3, I can see videos and explore archives on it, but the green tick on a circle just doesn't appear in that moment of the video, in my pc on my oculus app, the circle just stays on gray and spinning and spinning and spinning... I wan't to connect the quest 3 to my pc and I have tried everything, I want to use the quest 3 as a monitor and I just can't. What can I do?
I have 2.4gb s nice. I had the 900 mbs on the wrong setting after following another tutorial. I had it on dynamic nitrate. And also had the steamVr resolution slider whacked right up instead of the oculus app resolution slider. No wonder Skyrim was all blurry. Well it may still be. Have to check. I hope not. I did get legendary tales to be sharp as a die but it kept stuttering because was airlink but probably just because my settings were not right. I sometimes find these things still stay messed up even after doing all this. So hopefully in this case it works.
I run into a strange issue, I've installed the Meta link and air app. The headset and controllers show tracking in SteamVR, I even see the display of Steam home game on my monitor but not in my headset it stays black. I have an USB-C 3 and 2.7GBps speed cable connected to my RTX 4080 laptop, it also passed the green mark brand BlueBuilt BBVRC001. What could the issue be?
I am struggling with performance a lot but I feel like I shouldn’t my pc specs are msi 5700 rx xt gaming and Ryzen 7 2800x soon to be 7 5800x so what setting should I mess with the most in this cause it’s really irritating I also use a kiwi link cable 5gpbs
my quest 3 was working just fine through the link cable and now all of a sudden it wont find my pc and i get a notification of slow charging. Any idea why this would happen. Air link works just fine, my cable is brand new and its the actual quest link cable .
They need to bring hardwired headsets back or make a setting where the headset can be used while being plugged in all the time without destroying the internal battery. Like there’s people like me who want all day vr and to do that you’ll need a headset that has to be plugged in to work or stay plugged in
hello, do you need to use virtual desktop to use praydog vr mod in openxr when using link cable ? i dont want to use steamVr mode cause it has worst performance
hi great vid im now getting good visuals from quest 3 although the cars in the distance ar a bit blurry, my ques is how do you record your f1 23 vids, directly from quest 3, obs or geforce exp. if i record using the quest 3 set to wide screen the vid is clear but the view captured is a upwards view so you dont see the steering wheel although the view in the quest is perfect. i have also tried obs capturing the steam vr view window but the recording is a blurry mess. if i use gefoce exp to capture the quest 3 normal screen mirror to my monitor which is a wide screen the recording looks stretched
I'm not sure, the Quest 3 has a higher resolution than Quest 2, but the bandwidth for the link cable is the same. They probably felt image quality at 120FPS wasn't good enough, which I tend to agree with. I stick to 90Hz even when using virtual desktop. Displayport connections are much better in this respect than link methods.
I set FOV - Tangent Multiplier to 0.6; 0.6 in debug tool. Oculus app to 80fps with slider max. That allows me to set games to ultra. AMS 2 maxed, ACC maxed with Res 100% and VR pixel density 140% and gives decent amount of headroom. MSFS is also running really well for me and I now finally get 80 FPS when set to ultra with TLOD at 130 And OLoD to 200 when over countryside, Inturn on ASW forced when over built up areas. This is on a 4090 and 12900kf using Quest 3 and official link cable. I can go 90 but choose not to as gives a little more headroom. Also bitrate is set to 800, any higher and I get audio stutters on occasion.
I have sight loss affecting peripheral vision so it doesn’t affect me, although I don’t see a massive difference in the headset when looking around. I wear glasses most of the time so not close as without. Going to get some prescription lenses for it. At least vision loss has one benefit, it helps with VR performance…
@@JamieP_77what distance you have set up on your facial interface? I was using 3 with glasses and 2/4 is best i can fit my eyes with prescription lenses.
@@caseyrybak Hi, mine are set furthest at the moment as I don’t want to scratch lenses. Not ordered prescription lenses yet. Going to this week, Which lenses did you go for and are you happy with them?
@@JamieP_77 I'm using WidmoVr, it's ok, but not happy when i want to share device with a family/friend and need to insert the prescription lenses again, sometimes it take few seconds, and sometimes i takes 40+sec to insert 1 lens.
In my Quest 3 software Graphics Settings, it shows the 72, 80 and 90 hz 2x? So it looks like, 72 hz 72 hz 80 hz 80 hz 90 hz 90 hz. I have watched a lot of Quest 3 setup videos, and none of them have double hz settings like mine. I deleted the software and reinstalled it, but that made no difference.
The Rift S has a dedicated display port connection so there is no video compression required by the PC and no video compression artefacts as a result. The pancakes lens and higher resolution of the Quest 3 still make it optically superior though.
Yes I use Assetto Corsa and Content Manager. My settings vary depending on which headset, the Custom Shader Patch and filter. I haven't tried Pure yet though. Also, you can improved performance with Open Composite and OpenXR toolkit (not some mods can conflict with it).
For people that start to have audio issues over ~600 Mbps, try turning off the audio from the quest 3 and get the audio from headphones connected to the PC separately instead (say with bluetooth). This worked for me, allowed me to crank the bit rate beyond 600!
So are you saying to use headphones instead?
@@AV3NGED7FOLD yes but don’t connect them to the Quest, connect them to the PC
I'm a beginner. owning Quest 3 for a few days and your video made it clear for me. Thank you!
so it all started with installing a custom (bloat free) os then after realizing i still needed more performance i started one by one turning all of my services off until i got them around 90 at startup . thank you your video was the last step i was missing to achieve maximum power from my ageing rtx 3070. ac has never looked more beautiful.
the way to bypass the 500 mbps limit is amazing, it finally solved my artifacting issues, thank you very much good sir!
have you noticed performance issues when going over 500? i tried setting it to 800 and was having frame drops but i dont know if it was that or another setting i changed
@@eternalglow6483 930 is the limit anything over it causes lag and frame drop
@@eternalglow6483had the same issues, figured out a potential solution. Try muting the audio from the quest 3 and get the audio from the PC separately say through a Bluetooth headset or something. Worked for me with a MX4 connected directly to my PC via Bluetooth.
I wanted to thank you for getting me set up for my first VR flight on MSFS. It was amazing! I had flown on the PC before but the VR took it to new heights.
My condolences. for the additional money you may be about to spend on future Sim gear, now that you have VR 😁👍
@@HamVR Hello friends, i have a 2080TI do you think it would be able to run MS2020 in Quest 3?
I'm thinking of purchasing the Quest 3, but not much piont if my 2080TI won't do it.
@@HamVR hello. I intend to get the kuject cable as well. I had horrendous time playing Euro Truck Sim using Air Link. But I’m wondering if my hardware is good enough. Ryzen 5 5500. 16GB DDR4, RTX 3050.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 it’s been 3 months , so you probably took a decision already , but it depends on your settings.
My 4090 wich is many times more powerful struggles to run ms 2020 on Vr at a crisp resolution with all settings completely maxed out above 80fps
And even if it does, my 5800X3D wich is equivalent to - Ryzen 7700X and veery slightly below an i5 13500K, wich is a great next gen processor , and it gets dpi bottlencekc at about 60 fps some times.
It really is a hard game to run if you push it.
However it does have quite configurable settings , if you play at a lower resolution with low terrain LOD and low texture load distances etc. you should be able to handle it fine with a 2089 and a normal CPU
@@lawyerlawyer1215 " many times more powerfull" lol..
Thank you so much. I'm a DCS nut who jumped feet 1st into VR with the Pimax Crystal light. It was a horrible experience.
So I sent it back and got the quest 3. The image was better than the Cristal light but still worse than my 1440p monitor. I know vr was more demanding, but the quest was killing my 7950x, and I was lucky to be using 30% of my 4090. After trying everything, I could find
I was about ready to give up on VR.
Then I found your video. Now I can see why people say vr is so much better than a monitor. I still have a slight CPU issue, but I can't see spending $600 when I'm getting 100 very smooth FPS.
I've been using an Odyssey+ for years, but just ordered my Q3 yesterday, should arrive in time for the weekend. This information is quite valuable, thanks!
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for watching.
I'd be making the same transition if I bought a meta Q 3, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts
finally.. someone who talks sense.. and doesnt grandstand.. weather this works or not.. i appreciate your style.. Im running a 4060.. 13700f 64 gb of ram.. and still getting ridiculous stutter in pcvr
@@Spooteriffic
The 4060 is your bottleneck.
If you don't adequately decrease the resolution, you're effectively trying to run 2 4k monitor on a card marketed for 1080p gaming.
For most games, the 8gb of vram just isn't enough
A vanilla 4060 is WAYY too weak for a 13 series cpu and that much ram.
A 4060 with 64gb of RAM. Why in godsname? Who sold you this?
Awesome, thanks! So cable link gives you better overall performance compared ti air link, correct?
Yes it would since its a direct transfer and wouldn't have to go through the wifi and such
It also depend on your wifi speed.
Great explanations, great guidance, exactly what I was looking for. There is so much click-bait you need to get through before actually getting to someone who has done the work to be able to teach others about this thing. A definite sub from me, thanks so much for the work put into this.
Ironically, this channel has only about 7k subs, which is typical for this kind of great quality. Please - sub this guy. We need quality to range above the click-baity stuff!
Thank you!
OMG!!! This worked for me, i used the exact same settings with Mobile ASW disabled and PC ASW 45fps forced in debug tool and 90fps in Oculus Software, no more jittery mess!
Edit: look in comment below if you still get jitter.
Cool which game and GPU are you running?
@@HamVR rtx 2070 & amd 3600, in asgard´s wrath. These settings made it much smoother, but i got jitter again. I changed my main audio while i was getting the jitter and it stopped!
Edit: had the jitter again, with 45 ASW, and matching main/oculus sound with 16-bit. This time it was enough to push the on/off button 2 times, so the screen turns off/on. Don't know how this is such a mess, but at least now i get to play longer before the jitter starts and make it go away easier.
@@HamVR I got jitters again after a long play session, and i think it has something to do with the mirrored game running full screen and having the console window up in Windows 11.
Whenever i get jitter again, the main game window pops in front of the console window and the on/off trick doesn't always work either. Now i've turned off vsync globally. But i'll test later tonight, have stuff to do, if the jitter doesn't come back i'll be playing the whole time :p
Bit sad it's a multitude of solutions, but i feel like i'm getting there or on to something.
Edit: it happened again with vsync off, i tried messing with the sound again, but i don't think it's the sound. When i right click on the sound icon, the Start taskbar stays open, doesn't go back to the game mirror and stops jittering. I don't know what to make of all of this, last test i'm gonna do is keep the taskbar open without the console window.
Edit 2: I tried it with only the taskbar open and not the console window, and for now it's buttery smooth.
@@theDubleD can yo uexplain more abou the taskbar? its something too weird
Whoa. Pretty sure that this is the most useful video ever for setting up my Quest 3. Thanks a ton.
I appreciate just bought a quest 3. Very well done you made it easy. Thank you. The cable you recommended was so much better
Glad I could help!
I use a OC 3060 12GB for Automobilista 2 and Half Life Alyx, thru a wired Pico4. The performance is pretty decent! Playable framerates with turned down graphic settings but still good looking.
That's good to know. AMS2 and HLF are pretty well optimised for VR. Assetto Corsa Competizione is much more demanding on the other hand.
Try dcs ans see your frames dropping like dominos
120 hz now working in link settings … need to wind back mbps to about 500 in ODT but once set AMS 2 goes up to the next level !! 😮
Very nice. Personally I'll stick to 90Hz as I don't like the trade off of squeezing more frames (at 120Hz) into the same or less bit rate, the codec compression becomes more apparent to me. This is where dedicated display port headsets really shine, compared to compressed video solutions.
Great advice on the storage size for pcvr use 💚 Also appreciate the info on cable reliability
Amazing video brotha! Clear and easy to follow. Best video on the subject 100%!
They did not include $2 worth of parts to make displayport work over usb-c protocol so they could sell you that $80 cable... that requires janky software and extra load/latency on the gpu...
It's a crime to pc gamers for sure
Maybe it will be on Quest 4 or past generations
Absolutely....
What do u mean ? If i link my quest 3 to my laptop in usb C port this is why i have stuttering and lags ? (Even if it recognizes the cable)
If i plug my quest 3 into the usb-3 port, it will work better ?
They actually included the parts.......the quest 3 suports display port.......but meta decided to not enable ut through sowftare
Thanks for the tutorial. Could i just use the wired connection to watch movies on my PC?
Thanks for the video some great tips. Just to share in the hope it helps others, I have a Wifi 6e router in my man cave (linked to main router in hallway via LAN over power) and run steam link. it's so easy to setup it's a real joy. Still get the occasional glitch but it is more than tolerable (can even run 120 FPS) and seems to get better over time. Other options to charge at the same time is the KKCOBVR A2.
I got the exact same problem with the usb (amd vs Intel). Your workaround worked perfectly! Thanks!!
Great to hear! It's was driving me nuts. Watch out for Windows updates, as they can sometimes reset that setting.
a quick comment bro, a lowe refresh rate won't give you more FPS, it just avoids screen stuttering and stuff
one of the most helpful videos on this topic.. thank you
I appreciate this, just bought a quest 3 after owning an index for 4 years. Thank you!
@braden3x are u happy with ur purchase I really wanted to buy an index but now it's too old to still Pay 1k for the full set
@@Kevin-k4r2t ehhh I have returned the quest 3 you just cant beat the index
Great video. Subscribed.
I’ve just updated my rig from a Rift S on an 1080ti on an 8700k which worked perfectly but a bit slow these days. Went with a quest 3 on a 7900xtx with a 7900x3d. It’s absolutely horrible in msfs, image quality is super but the blurring and stutters when I move my head, makes me sick. I’ve tried about 290 different things and not one thing has worked consistently. This video has given me about another 15 things to try. Hopefully I’ll fix it before the 7900xtx return window closes.
Hi, thank you for making great informative content!! I got the quest 3 and 2 and an index running on an 4090. I still run the index becuase of the stability and no need for controllers. It never fails, just always works. But i do miss the resolution from the quest 3. I think i would use it more if it worked more like the index without need for controllers and activating link manually every time. Just start the game from steam and put on the headset and i'm good to go, just like the index. Is there anyway i can get the quest 3 to work like that? Best Regards
Great vid - I’ve been messing with VDXR and Oculus link and come to same conclusion - link is still best and the other benefit is ASW much better than SSW (VD) for MSFS
Great video. Very detailed and easy to follow with some great tips
Glad it was helpful!
not sure i understood right, you said that the cable with the charger was fine on quest 2 but we are talking about quest 3 here... shows as 18w over the quest 2 10w. does that means that if i use the cable with quest 3 it will melt the cable or quest 3 while using it?
I’m saying that the Quest 3 consumes more power the Quesr 2, 18w. The USB power output of most PCs is typically 15w, so you will need a USB cable that allows for additional power adaptor input to maintain charge while you use it wired to your PC. You can turn the screen brightness down and disable WiFi to extend game play time also. The USB cable that comes in box is too short to use for wired PCVR mode, but is fine for charging the Quest 3 when not in use.
Thanks for the video, really great tips! I got a cable with an extra usb one can use as power supply and it pretty much maintains the headset power where it was. I was reluctant to get a quest3 due to my pc being somewhat outdated now (i9-9900k, geforce 2080 super), but for the price I thought I'd give it a try. I was a bit skeptical because of the latency, too, but it runs reasonably well at 72hz and the latency is almost unnoticeable :D
Great video. What confuses me is. They are not using direct dp port to video card. Instead opted for usbc with software to video card interpolation. What's the point in using a graphics card? Meta should have done a better job with that. Usb C video rendering is a waste of cpu power...
Thank you this is very useful! i am addicted to playing Freeland now haha
Seems pretty straightforward and plug and play!
Nice video; I’ve got a quest 3 and for some reason I cannot get steamVR to launch! Just says SteamVR fail.. works fine using VD. Very strange
Excellent video 👍👍
Great video mate, thank you.
Have you had the chance to try the VR mod for Cyberpunk ? I'm trying to see how to make it work.
Cheers!
Hi great video - Does the debug tool have to be running for its settings to take effect? I cant set what I want then not bother starting it up after that unless I want to tweak?
Phew, i was considering buying this for productivity, good thing i watched this video cause F this
Fantastic detail...thank you very much 👍
Thanks for the help now I’m able to use gorilla tag mods
THE BRILLIANT COMMENT which works for me: H264 is for wired and H265 for wireless !!!!
Explain please
@@hypewilkens I had the issue with Quest3 in PCVR where picture was not stable, but thanks to this video and comment from HamVR, I went back and changed it back to H264 for the video codec, which made it all brilliant for me. Look at 11:04.
I was close to buy a Quest 3, but as i see, this will work dependin in the PC hardware, so first I have to upgrade my PC to run high performance software
Thanks for this, very helpful indeed!
Hey i have a laptop dell g15 gaming i7 rtx 3060 16Gb ram i cant play with Alyx or walking Dead...even in the Steam VR menu it is stuttering and too many lags...😢
usefull video for beginners and what about encode bandwith in debug tools ? do you change it sometimes ?
When I open the meta link app from quest, the screen is to Close, how to adjust the screen position?
When I try to play games, there is always mouse cursor in the center although I already move the cursor to the edge of my screen with mouse.
I just bought this headset and i just realised they dont give the cable for pc connection ...
I'm really trying to reship it and go for another brand just because of that ...
Thank you. This is the info I needed.
so i'm gonna be using mine for vrchat and other hangout games primarily, is my laptop rtx 2070 enough, the steam vr test said it was. but not sure how accurate it is.
Thanks for this very helpful video. We were trying unsuccessfully to watch on a PC screen via link cable what the headset was showing and so the tip about oculus mirror was great. But we can’t find anyway back to start a game loaded on the meta quest 3. I just want to watch on the screen Jurassic World Aftermath as my grandson plays it on his quest 3. We tried casting to the phone but it was small and choppy. How can I watch it on the PC screen? Thanks.
Are you trying to spectate a Quest 3 standalone game? Unfortunately there is no great way to do that. You can try Side Quest screen copy but there's a lot of steps to follow to setup. Alternatively upgrading your Wifi router to 6e and having it the same room as the Quest 3 would help with the choppyness. If your PC is plugged into the same router you can try cast to computer option as per this video
th-cam.com/video/x4fI0-JGLIU/w-d-xo.html
@HamVR you can cast to screen with quest 3 standalone. It's a bit laggy but it does work over wifi
is the quest 3s good for pcvr? with wire obviously. thing is i need a usbc to the 3.0 because my pc a lil older and does not have a usb c input. got some older pc specs. i5 4690k cpu lmfao
THANK YOU for the USB tip, I was having crazy frame drop issues anytime I was wired and now they're gone
I plan on doing this as I have a old router but a good PC, I have a 10gb USB port would extra bandwidth help?
This is really useful - thanks for making this
My cord just doesn't want to connect to my quest, what should i do?
Should we use openXR SteamVR or Quest Link? It's an option in the Quest software :O. Great video!
I got a Gygabite x870 elite wifi 7 motherboard expecting to use the USB4 type-c 40 Gbps ports, but the oculus app says it is only a USB 3 1.5 Gbps. I even got higher speeds on my old B350 motherboard.
Appreciate the guide. Still feel like I can't completely get rid of the feint compression artefacts on distant backgrounds. It's a pain not having direct input like with an Index as your streaming performance quality is eating into the game performance.
Yes DisplayPort is still king. That's why I like the Pimax Crystal. You can get less artifacting if you play at 72Hz, as you will be squeezing less frames into the same bandwidth.
Mom if I have already did like did the medical software and a pitch wirelessly how do I do link cable do I uninstall oculus
hello, If i plug the cable into the USB Thunderbolt port, do I need to plug the charger to the cable as well? Because the thunderbolt port gives power for the headset + power from the charger.. will I fry the headset :)))
or must I use the normal USB 3 port with this cable?
Thank you
When I start up DCS my controllers are not visible. But when I'm just in steamVR they are visible. Using a quest 3 if that helps with anything
does the headset stay charged when playing pc wired
If your PC can deliver enough power, yeah
Thx. Do have a specific tip when game stays in 2d (even though picked VR start of DCS)? TY
So wired is better no matter what correct? over steam link?
Currently running DCS outside steam and now it does not load into my headset via every time I check DCS for the VR setting to be active the game starts to load and stop loading any ideas please.
Same! Did you get a fix? Mine only opens in VR if I’m using VD!
@@TallWestEddy I found a video that said check that said to check that developers switch is not on in the meta quest on the PC
I've added the videos that helped me out development mode solved my problem
@@soundboy605 hey; thanks, didn’t see any video links.. but I’ll check and turn off the dev mode as I’m sure I have that on
Last week I purchased the QUEST 3. I am very overwhelmed in that I love it, but on the other hand experience many problems. The games (I have about ten of them) stutter after a few minutes, which is frustrating. So I bought a video cable for the QUEST 3, putting it into use wasn't exactly easy either, but more or less succeeded after I finally got confirmation via Firefox. This confirmation did not succeed because Firefox is not compatible with the QUEST LINK. Now the image freezes after a few minutes when I use Steamlink via the QUEST LINK cable. I have a Gaming Laptop I9 14900 and an RTX 4090 and 64 GB of memory.
Did you make sure you were connected to a 3.1/2 USB port? You should really get at least 1.4/5 GBs of transfer speed while "test USB" on the Meta link app, otherwise you'll be getting those laggy frame drops...
Hello there! I got my quest 3 a few days ago, checked some guides and tried to play Assetto Corsa Competizione, but it looks blurry. I tried everything! Any tips to make it work? Thanks and nice video!
Try a higher headset resolution at 72Hz. Don’t use the VR epic graphics preset as the VR render resolution is set to high at 140% (lower it to 100/120%). Turn down the number of visible opponent cars.
the most helpful guide that i found !!!
I can’t find the “Oculus app” that allows all the tweaking. It keeps taking me to meta quest link which works but allows no setting changes. What am I missing? Edit seems link app has replaced oculus app
No mention Oculus Killer?
I had a look at Oculus Killer and it looks like it introduces a bunch of other issues like breaking supporting for Oculus runtime games unless you switch to using Revive. It also means you need to use SteamVR OpenXR runtime, which doesn't work as well as the Oculus OpenXR runtime for OpenXR games on Quest.
@@HamVR True actually. Your switched on with this. Your OpenXR toolkit video is insane.
@@HamVR Survival mode? Can tinker with difficulty to disable stuff as well
i need help, i dont want to play VR games i just want a headset that can hook to docked Rog ally x by a single wire and play normal games in a widescreen theatre setting without losing power. i know this video is old but can the quest3S do this?
Hi
When i connect my quest 3 it just give me audio and stock in a loading screen with meta logo but it will not change after how much time i wait
do these settings work well with quest 2?
Thank you for the video . Its 3 week struggling with this quest3 for f1. I got a rtx 3070 . What refresh rate , resolution on the quest, render resolution, resolution on f1, encoded birate that i should run. I know i am asking for much but i need help run this game . Thanks you in advance
I would set it at 72Hz, Render Resolution 1.0 (increase if you have performance headroom - check the performance HUD), Steam VR 100% (Custom )Resolution and in game settings see my F122 settings video on a 3090 based on VR Medium preset th-cam.com/video/WHDZ7zKvRlA/w-d-xo.html For the encode bitrate, if you link cable gives you a good speed test go for 940Mbps and only reduce if you get connection drops.
@@HamVR thank you very much !!! 👌👌👌
When i connect my quest 3, it says (USB 3.0 connection recommended) im using usb 3.0 link cable with a 3.2 port on my motherboard, i tried everything :( what am i doing wrong
I tried a different 3.0 on the back of pc and it worked.
@@justinhogue9861 yeah i fixed it a while ago it was my cable
Top bloke, Thanks a lot for these settings, ive owned almost every VR headset vive pro, valve index, hp reveb being the "best" hedsets but none of them have ran project cars 2 as good as the quest 3 with these settings, finally the jaggies are gone, the stutters are gone and the resolution and graphics are stunning by comparison, i have a 3090 i7-9700k and was always annoyed that i could never optimize this game even with decent pc specs. I dont have money at the moment but I will try to remember to come back and use your affiliate link for the powered usb cable. again thanks
I've got the same processor with a 4090, I've had such troubles trying to get things running good in vr. I tought it was the processor. Any ideas tips to get things running better?
@@joostvanh1217 to be honest i think an i7-9700k might be a bottleneck with a 4090 but you should still be able to run vr games and get good results. Unfortunately vr is not easy and there is a hole hoast of reasons you might be struggeling. What headset? Wired/wireless? What game? What software are you using ie steam vr, steam link, quest link, what issues are you having
in 5:55, the option to keep going just doesn't appear. I have tried with the cable and conecting the quest 3 to the same wifi as my pc, but it just doesn't appear in airlink, or the cable place of the video itself. I have tried many things and none of them seem to work, either is for wifi or via cable. what can I do?, I really want to connect my pc to the quest 3, so I have a monitor on the vr. What can I do?, I feel like is at the tip of my fingers and I just can't reach it
So, when I connect the cable and the pc, I can see the galery of the quest 3, I can see videos and explore archives on it, but the green tick on a circle just doesn't appear in that moment of the video, in my pc on my oculus app, the circle just stays on gray and spinning and spinning and spinning...
I wan't to connect the quest 3 to my pc and I have tried everything, I want to use the quest 3 as a monitor and I just can't. What can I do?
Whats the default Settings. I dont know what i change at all and now it lags the audio
I have 2.4gb s nice. I had the 900 mbs on the wrong setting after following another tutorial. I had it on dynamic nitrate. And also had the steamVr resolution slider whacked right up instead of the oculus app resolution slider. No wonder Skyrim was all blurry. Well it may still be. Have to check. I hope not. I did get legendary tales to be sharp as a die but it kept stuttering because was airlink but probably just because my settings were not right. I sometimes find these things still stay messed up even after doing all this. So hopefully in this case it works.
I run into a strange issue, I've installed the Meta link and air app. The headset and controllers show tracking in SteamVR, I even see the display of Steam home game on my monitor but not in my headset it stays black. I have an USB-C 3 and 2.7GBps speed cable connected to my RTX 4080 laptop, it also passed the green mark brand BlueBuilt BBVRC001. What could the issue be?
The type C (Meta Link) is supposed to be connected directly to the GPU or Motherboard ?
Motherboard.
I am struggling with performance a lot but I feel like I shouldn’t my pc specs are msi 5700 rx xt gaming and Ryzen 7 2800x soon to be 7 5800x so what setting should I mess with the most in this cause it’s really irritating I also use a kiwi link cable 5gpbs
Headset resolution and refresh rate typically have the biggest impact, followed by game graphic settings.
My PC is using the Quest 3 Noise Suppression Mic on the front as the primary microphone. Any fix for that?
The Kuject cable only works with USB 3.2 gen 1. It's sad, though I can still use it as a charging cable.
my quest 3 was working just fine through the link cable and now all of a sudden it wont find my pc and i get a notification of slow charging. Any idea why this would happen. Air link works just fine, my cable is brand new and its the actual quest link cable
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They need to bring hardwired headsets back or make a setting where the headset can be used while being plugged in all the time without destroying the internal battery. Like there’s people like me who want all day vr and to do that you’ll need a headset that has to be plugged in to work or stay plugged in
why is it so hard to find a simple answer?
will i have less latency if use cable for steam vr or just stay on VD?
hello, do you need to use virtual desktop to use praydog vr mod in openxr when using link cable ? i dont want to use steamVr mode cause it has worst performance
hi great vid im now getting good visuals from quest 3 although the cars in the distance ar a bit blurry, my ques is how do you record your f1 23 vids, directly from quest 3, obs or geforce exp. if i record using the quest 3 set to wide screen the vid is clear but the view captured is a upwards view so you dont see the steering wheel although the view in the quest is perfect. i have also tried obs capturing the steam vr view window but the recording is a blurry mess. if i use gefoce exp to capture the quest 3 normal screen mirror to my monitor which is a wide screen the recording looks stretched
Use Oculus Mirror to record F123 footage.
@@HamVR thks for the response even with Oculus mirror the captured view is upwards so I don't see the steering wheel, it's gotta be a bug or something
whz the 120Hz is not available in your pc? I have a quest 2 and use 120Hz always. Hopefully quest3 has 120Hz support...
amazing video, you nailed it!
How come the refresh rate in app is limited to 90 instead of 120?
I'm not sure, the Quest 3 has a higher resolution than Quest 2, but the bandwidth for the link cable is the same. They probably felt image quality at 120FPS wasn't good enough, which I tend to agree with. I stick to 90Hz even when using virtual desktop. Displayport connections are much better in this respect than link methods.
I set FOV - Tangent Multiplier to 0.6; 0.6 in debug tool. Oculus app to 80fps with slider max. That allows me to set games to ultra. AMS 2 maxed, ACC maxed with Res 100% and VR pixel density 140% and gives decent amount of headroom. MSFS is also running really well for me and I now finally get 80 FPS when set to ultra with TLOD at 130 And OLoD to 200 when over countryside, Inturn on ASW forced when over built up areas. This is on a 4090 and 12900kf using Quest 3 and official link cable. I can go 90 but choose not to as gives a little more headroom. Also bitrate is set to 800, any higher and I get audio stutters on occasion.
0.6 Tangent multiplier is a large amount of FOV to drop. I'm guessing you have your eyes quite far from the Quest 3 lens then?
I have sight loss affecting peripheral vision so it doesn’t affect me, although I don’t see a massive difference in the headset when looking around. I wear glasses most of the time so not close as without. Going to get some prescription lenses for it. At least vision loss has one benefit, it helps with VR performance…
@@JamieP_77what distance you have set up on your facial interface? I was using 3 with glasses and 2/4 is best i can fit my eyes with prescription lenses.
@@caseyrybak Hi, mine are set furthest at the moment as I don’t want to scratch lenses. Not ordered prescription lenses yet. Going to this week, Which lenses did you go for and are you happy with them?
@@JamieP_77 I'm using WidmoVr, it's ok, but not happy when i want to share device with a family/friend and need to insert the prescription lenses again, sometimes it take few seconds, and sometimes i takes 40+sec to insert 1 lens.
do u need debug tool on all the time?
Any help? I have a kiwi link cable that states 2.9GBPS but ingame I can only go to 750 without visible display lagging behind
In my Quest 3 software Graphics Settings, it shows the 72, 80 and 90 hz 2x? So it looks like, 72 hz 72 hz 80 hz 80 hz 90 hz 90 hz. I have watched a lot of Quest 3 setup videos, and none of them have double hz settings like mine. I deleted the software and reinstalled it, but that made no difference.
Rift s still somehow beats that with its cable connection. It's 80hz
The Rift S has a dedicated display port connection so there is no video compression required by the PC and no video compression artefacts as a result. The pancakes lens and higher resolution of the Quest 3 still make it optically superior though.
To run the headset off of link cable can it be type c to type c into motherboard or does it have to be usb A 3.0 to type c
It can be either. Cable quality and USB motherboard quality (noise) are the most important.
Thanks for the clear video! What settings are you running on assetocorsa? do you use content manager? if yes, do you use steam vr or oculos vr?
Yes I use Assetto Corsa and Content Manager. My settings vary depending on which headset, the Custom Shader Patch and filter. I haven't tried Pure yet though. Also, you can improved performance with Open Composite and OpenXR toolkit (not some mods can conflict with it).
Should i leave Encode Bitrate at 0 if im having stutter issues?