The tribal name and surname of ancient Chinese 姓 and 氏

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  • @elmadas
    @elmadas 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Studying mandarin (very basic level) I have encountered 姓 and wondered if it was a remnant of matriarchical society, thank you for the interesting explanation! 谢谢您! 😊

    • @dr.gaosclassroom
      @dr.gaosclassroom  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad this video is of some help to you! I have posted quite some video clips explaining characters in the playlist of Learn Chinese. Hope you enjoy them.

  • @JasonThu
    @JasonThu 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    谢谢老师。Thank you for explaining this; I remember leaving a comment about this a while ago. These reminds me of Arabic naming conventions (with ibn 'Son of x' from location y) and Slavic naming conventions with the patronymics (-ovich, -ovna).

    • @dr.gaosclassroom
      @dr.gaosclassroom  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, I made this video clip because of your comment. Thanks for the info. about Arabic and Slavic naming practices. Do they also have conventions about women's naming before and after they get married?

    • @JasonThu
      @JasonThu 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @dr.gaosclassroom I think women don't take the husband's family name in Arabic (but the children would); like Chinese. In Slavic (or at least Russian which I am more familiar with), the married woman takes the family name but the patronymic (derived from her father's first name) would be kept. In general terms of course. I'm sure the vast worlds of Arabic and Slavic languages across time and regions might have so many different variations.

    • @JasonThu
      @JasonThu วันที่ผ่านมา

      Now I think about it... Patronymic in Slavic/Russian names would have similarities to generational naming scheme (字輩) in Chinese tradition as all children of the same father would have the same patronymic (though can differ slightly in form for sons and daughters). E.g. if Alexander has three children Ivan, Alexei, and Marina, they would be Ivan Alexandrovich, Alexei Alexandrovich, and Marina Alexandrovna + their family name. The difference would be that I think 字輩 can be applied to cousins/wider.

  • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
    @oldishandwoke-ish1181 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for another great video. Interesting that there was possibly a matriarchal society in China which preceded the patriarchal one!

    • @dr.gaosclassroom
      @dr.gaosclassroom  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for your support!! Yes, there was a strong matriarchal society that left a cultural legacy in both Daoist philosophy and religion. In Daoist religion, the priestess holds as much power as a priest! There are also other cultural legacies in the worship of many goddesses in the Yangtze Region in the Southern China and Pearl River Region, too.