NEWEY'S UNRACED DEATH TRAP! The Story of the McLaren MP4-18

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  • Usually when there's an unraced car, it usually belongs to one of those back of the grid Italian-based meme teams from the late 80s or early 90s; when they typically ran out of money and folded before the season started.
    But the most famous unraced car of all time, belongs to one of the best known, loved and one of the most successful of all time: McLaren. And it was designed by the Jedi Master of Aero: Adrian Newey.
    So what went wrong? Let's have a look.
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  • @AidanMillward
    @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Still trying to get the new camera set up right. Looked great on my monitor but a bit dark on my phone.
    The on air sign is 🔥

    • @mikewilliams488
      @mikewilliams488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looked a bit dark and contrasty to me. The sign is great though.

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikewilliams488 I’ll turn up the iso for the next one.

    • @sadwingsraging3044
      @sadwingsraging3044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Darker means your hair grows thicker! ;-)

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your monitor’s brightness is set to too high.

    • @nigelfuller1840
      @nigelfuller1840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Losing the background music would be a step forward. Much like F1 losing DRS and bringing back refuelling. We live in hope...

  • @martinlampert4721
    @martinlampert4721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    And to think when Honda returned to McLaren they couldn’t get the engine to work because of the design packaging
    Went to Red Bull where Newey is now, and all is well
    The irony….

    • @psk5746
      @psk5746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not same Honda engine. Was resigned after Honda admitted they stuffed up, so RedBull got the good one

    • @obamagaming6642
      @obamagaming6642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@psk5746 because mclaren was too strict on engine clearances...

    • @surajbalajr.4016
      @surajbalajr.4016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      McLaren ran a size zero rear end, and there were insanely tight clearances with everything. Franz brought them to STR and allowed em to fine-tune their shit for RBR to pick them up.

  • @MerrekSK
    @MerrekSK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I remember cheering for Kimi in 2003, following this MP4-18 saga, hoping at every race it would run, believing that it absolutely had to defeat Ferrari, aaand... it never came. Yet, Kimi finishing just 2 points short of Michael, taking the fight into the final race, appears almost a miracle. For me, Kimi will always be 2003 honorary Champion.

    • @SamuelSantos_
      @SamuelSantos_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Basically he had a Fernando Alonso 2012 season

    • @MaxVerstappenGlazer
      @MaxVerstappenGlazer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SamuelSantos_ with less experience

    • @chanchaniceman
      @chanchaniceman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a 9 year old kid who loves Michael I think 2003 was the year where I do appreciate how insanely good kimi is

  • @jonnyspa27
    @jonnyspa27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This reminds me of when Honda tried to do a four stroke MotoGP bike in the early 80s called the NR 500. It was having so many teething problems that even Freddie Spencer couldn’t get the bike sorted. They ended up using so much knowledge from that bike to produce the NSR 500 two-stroke and oval piston NR750 Superbike respectively. Sometimes you have to let a huge egg to make even larger leaps in development.

    • @spainobmxer69
      @spainobmxer69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not arguing with you, but wasn’t that situation caused by Hondas dislike for 2 strokes and stubbornness to not make one? Even though the NSR is arguably the greatest 2 smoker ever made

    • @jonnyspa27
      @jonnyspa27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spainobmxer69 As I understand it, since the FIM limited the 500cc class to just 4 cylinders, Honda backed out of the class in '68. Mainly due to their sales being 4-stroke bikes, and the fact that 2-strokes have more of an advantage w/ 4 cylinders.
      From Wiki: "In November 1977 Honda announced it would be returning to motorcycle Grand Prix racing using four-stroke technology. Even though two-stroke engines dominated motorcycle Grand Prix racing in the late 1970s, Honda felt compelled to race what they sold and thus competed using a high-technology, four-stroke race bike. Since a conventional four-stroke, four-cylinder engine could not produce the same power as its two-stroke rivals, Honda increased its valve area to be competitive."

    • @pasdutout4690
      @pasdutout4690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was nothing 'advanced' in oval piiston 'technology'. Any idiot could tell it just wouldn't work. They spent millions trying to make absurd oval rings to seal properly, what a joke that was.
      NR will ever stand for Never Ready.
      But the racing crowd is always quick to cry genius, hey. Where fails, - and lots of money - prevail. .

    • @colinstewart1432
      @colinstewart1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And faster than you can say Oval Pistons...highside 💥

    • @paulparker7419
      @paulparker7419 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently if it wheelied, the oil pished out of the engine breather over the rear tyre.....

  • @creepingjesus5106
    @creepingjesus5106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    It's a very good read: his obvious respect for Carl Haas makes an interesting juxtaposition to where the team is now. The sections around Senna's death are enlightening too, I reckon.

    • @de-fault_de-fault
      @de-fault_de-fault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Carl Haas never returned to F1 after 1986 and died in 2016. Although his F1 team never quite got traction, he ran successful teams in the US (in F5000 and the second Can Am series, and most notably with Paul Newman in CART). Today's Haas is named for Gene Haas (no relation) who also partners with Tony Stewart to run a NASCAR team.

  • @txtmstrjoe
    @txtmstrjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Great vid.
    Adrian Newey's book is an engrossing read. I read it after I got done with John Barnard's book, "The Perfect Car."
    Both provide some insight on how it is to be a top-flight F1 technical director/engineer/designer. Both men's experiences with Ron Dennis are also likewise pretty interesting, with a lot of commonality in experience. Let's just say that as brilliant as Ron Dennis undoubtedly was as Emperor at Team McLaren, there also were some, um, personality quirks that kind of stifle the need for freedom that creative minds like Newey and Barnard need to truly express their design genius.

    • @sleepingwarrior4618
      @sleepingwarrior4618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was there any mention of how Newry and Patrick Head were directly responsible for the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994?

    • @txtmstrjoe
      @txtmstrjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sleepingwarrior4618 Newey speaks about the shortcomings of the FW16 and how he and his team solved them.
      But do you honestly think Newey would even imply he had some responsibility over what happened in Imola in 1994? I mean, seriously?

    • @sleepingwarrior4618
      @sleepingwarrior4618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@txtmstrjoe he was the supervision for the metal fabricator that did the job. I don't remember that guy's name off the top of my head but he was a rookie craftsman. A baby if want for a better word.
      The criminal prosecution found Adrian Newry and Patrick Head both legally responsible for Sennas death. The shortcomings of the FW16 were mainly because the driver couldn't find the balance point as the car was much longer and less like a go cart and could not be thrown into and out of corners like the MP4/8 could when he was at McLaren. It had much more of a pendulum effect and much more likely to spin.
      Here is some text you can copy and paste for the reference material....
      "The MP4/8 was known for having a considerably shorter wheelbase (length) and was a noticeably smaller car in length than Williams FW15C. Initially, Ayrton Senna was impressed by the car's handling and nimbleness..."
      It was this change in wheelbase that Senna struggled to master in the first few races of that season.
      However, in no way were these 'shortcomings' of the same type as the big 'shortcoming' that I'm referring to. He will not want to mention senna.....he will want to reinvent himself to the younger audience (you) so that you are less aware of the mistakes made to Hill and Sennas car. They both had the steering mod done.....both by the same guy. Hill wasn't pushing as hard as Senna and he refused to blame the team but the fact remains that Hills column was fractured and in the process of failing as well. Senna just pushed first and it failed.
      Newey was DIRECTLY responsible for Senna death. Seriously. The Italian conviction proves it. Are you saying that Newey distancing himself from it means he wasn't liable in your eyes?

    • @txtmstrjoe
      @txtmstrjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sleepingwarrior4618 First of all, you only asked me a very simple question, about whether or not Newey would actually mention he and/or Head were responsible for what happened in Imola. I gave you my answer, and it was a simple answer to a very simple question.
      Secondly, I am not young. (I wish I still was, but I am almost fifty years old.) I have been a Formula 1 fan for most of my life, and I have dedicated a lot of my life to learning and studying the history of this sport. I saw Senna's accident on live TV when it happened and it remains one of the more traumatic things I've seen in sport. So your implication that I am somehow uninformed because my succinct answer to your simple question doesn't give you the answer you wanted to hear from me is, honestly, laughable.
      Third, why not read the book yourself then complain to Newey and/or his publisher if what he wrote doesn't match what you want to believe? If you're not going to do that, then don't come at me for answering your simple question with a simple and accurate answer.
      Fourth, I have not come upon any reliable sources regarding all the modifications done on the two Williams cars at Imola, much less the names of the mechanics involved. I HAVE come across a lot of info from people I wouldn't consider reliable, information I would personally declare as speculation at best because a lot of the info presented is anecdotal at best. Most of these sources also injected a lot of personal emotion into their delivery of information, so I have to treat these sources with a healthy dose of skepticism.
      I will say that a lot of the events from that day do meet the threshold of being suspicious. Destroying Senna's FW16's black box is arguably a criminal act as it constitutes destruction of evidence and greatly impedes any efforts at a proper investigation. This is something that happens more often than not when there is a lot of money involved, in my considered opinion.
      Lastly, I declared no position regarding the Imola trial. I WILL say this, though: Everything I know and understand about how cars work tells me something broke on that Williams. No one but the people who actually worked on that car in any capacity on that weekend know what happened. So don't attack me or anybody else if we don't tell you what you want to know, if all you've asked is whether or not Newey said anything particularly revelatory about Senna's car on 1 May 1994, specifically in regards to whether or not he would actually admit culpability to anything.

    • @sleepingwarrior4618
      @sleepingwarrior4618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@txtmstrjoe I asked if he addressed how he and Head were responsible for Sennas death but your "very simple answer to a very simple question" did not actually answer my question. It answered a question I did not ask. You seem to have related the question I asked about shortcomings to do with the car rather than the people that worked on the car.
      I cannot read a book of a man that killed one of the greatest drivers we have ever seen. He should have been in jail, not writing books. I don't know why you describe my position as a belief based position. Head and Newey were both convicted in criminal courts in Italy. Not belief. Facts.
      There were no list of modifications. There was one. Only one....done to both cars. I agree you should be skeptical, read the court reports. They are available and translated into English. I don't have them to hand but there is contemporaneously written reports of the key evidence, that steering column modification. It was found that it was the cause of the accident. You will also find that they both escaped jail because the prosecution was not brought in time so no punishment could be given.
      I agree that the destruction of the telemetry is one of many issues. It would have shown that the steering sensor had full left input but that the video showed the wheels were going straight, proving that the steering column had failed. It's hard to tell on camera as the footage is grainy (and that was also done on purpose, it was done in post production to blur the lines).
      Something did break and it was decided in court that the steering column failed because of the bad welding of the 19mm pipe into the 22mm pipe. We do know what happened. It's a matter of court record and they are discoverable. There was a website that had them on called something like "thesennafiles". If you look for the court records, they are discoverable.
      I asked if Newey mentioned his part in Sennas death. He didn't. Why would he, it's his dirty little secret. He was responsible....directly....for the supervision of his team. Nobody checked that mod. Would he have spotted the flaw or not? We will never know but I'd like to think he'd spot a single seal weld of 19mm into 22mm pipe isn't enough to deal with the stresses of steering an F1 car....not then and not now..... but I'm not an engineer...and Senna was killed because of it.
      It just bugs me when people hold either Newey or Head in any position of esteem when they literally caused Sennas death by failing to supervise that modification.
      It's not a go at you directly. Just remember what happened that day, why and who's watch it was on. Adrian Neweys.

  • @CuriousPug12
    @CuriousPug12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    as a mclaren fan since 1999, i fondly remember this.
    after some leaked pictures at the pre-season testing that i saw on newspaper, how the design is so radical and considered as 'extreme' compared to the boxy shape design at that time, i just can't wait for the release of this car. but it never came, delay after delay and no sign from them using this car, also there's no social media back then, and internet isn't as accessible as what we has right now, so every race weekend is something i always waiting for. "did they finally use that car or no"

  • @adampetten5349
    @adampetten5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Kimis 2003 very similar to Alonso's 2010 but especially 2012. 1 win but sooo many podiums.

  • @MajorFleshbang
    @MajorFleshbang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your videos are great if you only got into motorsports couple of years ago.
    They give a really cool context for the basic knowledge you get from radio, TV and stuff.
    Keep up the great work! 👍

  • @palmermonsen9098
    @palmermonsen9098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got that book for Christmas and I can not recommend it enough, its very very good and Adrian is arguably the most interesting man in Formula One

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My wife got it for me for our anniversary. I was gonna take it to read on the plane when we went to Canada but it was too heavy for my backpack 🤣

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    «the only way to fix that car is to redesign it completely» When that come from Adrian Newey, you know that you are deep in it.

  • @kilotangosierra
    @kilotangosierra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    the West Mclaren and Rothmans Williams livery were excellent, i get so happy nowdays to see pics and videos of them. the new cars are dull AF

    • @colinstewart1432
      @colinstewart1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The whole of F1 is pretty piss - poor these days. Too corporate. Not enough edgy personalities. Tyres go off as soon as you push. 1990 - 2010 is my favourite era

  • @frankbieser
    @frankbieser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid as always Aidan. And I like the new lighting. Big improvement.

  • @jdseymour1978
    @jdseymour1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    (Pedant mode on) the 'farting' noise of the c.2011 Exhaust Blown Diffuser (EBD) cars was more down to the technique of 'off-throttle blowing', which I never fully understood, but from what (little) I gathered, the fuel was cut off-throttle, but the throttle body was left open to allow gases and air to continue to flow. This kept a constant charge of gas/air to the diffuser, maintaining its' power and therefore the stability of the car's rear-end.
    It was perfected most by Renault, and Red Bull, and the driving style to master it by Vettel, hence why he was so dominant in 2011 when the EBD was most in fashion. Webber couldn't master the driving style to the same degree, hence why he was so eclipsed by his team mate that season.
    EDBs in themselves were not that new. As you say, the B194 had one, and if you look at the footage of Senna's crash at the Peraltada during practice for the 1991 Mexican Grand Prix, you'll see that the McLaren MP4/6 had its' exhaust outlets around the primitive diffuser.
    (end pedant mode)
    Another great video, thanks. I've taken to calling the MP4-18 "Newey's Folly" given its' still-birth. The 2004 season was also very strange. As a JB fan, it was quite enjoyable, but how both Williams and McLaren dropped the ball so badly is strange; Williams' 'Walrus' nose was another design dead-end. Maybe a topic for a future video?

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think at this point the EBD only worked on throttle and that’s why the handling was so bad.

    • @f1mate2
      @f1mate2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What you described is called cold-blowing, which was introduced by Red Bull in 2010. The infamous noise of the 2011 cars come from hot-blowing, which kept fuel injection on while off-throttle but didn't ignite it, so the fuel burnt in the exhaust giving the gases for the diffuser.

    • @maleagerlemitee676
      @maleagerlemitee676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've got an even earlier EBD on record from 1983! When wing cars were banned, the Renault team created the RE40 car where the exhausts and turbo-wastegate flow directly into the diffuser...

    • @jeanpierredapremontarellan830
      @jeanpierredapremontarellan830 ปีที่แล้ว

      The main reason was that the v10 engines expelled hotter gases than the v8 engines, so when using blown diffuser in the cars of that era the engine expelled such hot gases that the diffuser burned and the car lost stability, in addition to that the aerodynamic load of the diffuser was poorly distributed so that a tire heated more than another suffering several punctures in high speed corners causing several accidents.
      in one of those accidents alexander wurz almost died from a crash in a test day so when mclaren saw the danger they never took the car out to run, also thanks to the fact that de la rosa was the only one who dared to test the car in McLaren they respected him more and thanks to that he could drive officially for them in 2005 and 2006.

  • @plisskenationbackfromthede3657
    @plisskenationbackfromthede3657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know a car is bad when kimi refuses to drive it lol

  • @chriswhitwood2858
    @chriswhitwood2858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best books I've read! Strongly recommend.

  • @stira5775
    @stira5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Chanel is the 🥜 top work Aidan 👌🏻

  • @jasepaul91
    @jasepaul91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I read somewhere that Newey approached Dennis during 2003 saying he knew how to fix the issues and asked if he could fix them and Dennis said no. It was apparently the same in 2004 only this time Dennis said yes

  • @cdnkart
    @cdnkart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Didn't Brawn win it with three teams too?
    Benetton, Ferrari and Brawn?
    I know he was team principal at that point, but I'm sure his technical expertise was paramount in the development of the BGP-01

    • @petechongy
      @petechongy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Schumi/benetton/ferrari and the almighty bgp01 with button then Merc development.

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No, because he was in a entirely different role.
      It was Rory Byrne that designed the cars, and who's considered Newey's competitor.
      Though it must be said, that Ross Brawn has designed race winning cars, just not in F1.
      He designed the XJR-14 which won the 91 WSC, and would later be redesigned to the Porsche WS-95 which won Le mans and Daytona.

    • @amjan
      @amjan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The car Brawn raced was a Honda. Ross Brawn at best could only be involved in adapting a different engine to it.

  • @shoey6123
    @shoey6123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's weird seeing my fellow gen z kids get into F1 especially since I live in the United States. This sport is fundamentally not designed for us but we've just kind of made it work for what we want. Talking about the 'recent' greats is bizare as it's a case of 'well idk what Schumi was like on track, I was literally not alive for half of it.' That said it's nice seeing the sport rapidly modernize into something that I don't feel like I have to adapt to, though this is a souble edged sword to understate the fact, see F1 twitter as a negative example.

  • @blacktoothfox677
    @blacktoothfox677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    All the best for '22 Aidan.
    Love the channel.

  • @S_36_A
    @S_36_A 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive listened to the audio book afew times and its always a good listen or read

  • @Slider5320
    @Slider5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Forgot to mention that Newey was overuled by Martin Whitmarsh which caused the 2004 car to be a disaster. Then when the start of 2004 was that bad, they decided to build the car that Adrian wanted. It’s first race of the 2004 season was Belgium and Raikonen won. He had a string of podiums after that to.
    It’s just a shame they didn’t go with what Adrian wanted in the first place. If they had that second car ready for preseason testing. Could have had a really good battle with Raikonen vs Schumacher, like Verstappen and Hamilton 2021.

  • @MichaelSimmsArehtyKitnA
    @MichaelSimmsArehtyKitnA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The same heat issue happened at Red Bull too, Adrian had a habit of shrinking the body work a bit too much and then dialling it back for airflow after the event.

  • @machine85
    @machine85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Isn’t this the car that Ron Dennis always said “haven’t unlocked the potential yet”

  • @simulacra007
    @simulacra007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers Aiden, I'd hoped this was one you'd cover 😉 That white mic reminds me of the twisty thermostat thing on my radiators 😁

  • @maxiguntstain
    @maxiguntstain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice new setup mate, no more getting annoyed with the lighting!

  • @anthonyschmidt-ellis6353
    @anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video on the MP4-18. 1 thing I will say though. In 2004 Newey was granted his wish to redisign the MP4-19 (which as you said was the MP4-18 with a different badge) mid season which resulted in the MP4-19B.
    This car was a vast improvement over the MP4-19 which lead the to 1 and only race win of that year at Spa. It seams they did learn from their mistakes with the MP4-18/19 because when they made the MP4-20 that was an incredible car.

  • @jessefurqueron5555
    @jessefurqueron5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My copy of his book arrives today. Looking forward to a good read this upcoming cold (40s F) weekend.

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      T shirt weather then 🤣

    • @jessefurqueron5555
      @jessefurqueron5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AidanMillward med-heavy coat…Texas..anything below 80 is freezing here 🤙

  • @porcelliracing6109
    @porcelliracing6109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos Aidan! New camera has you looking pretty good, agreed, a little dark on my phone but only on your left side of your face

  • @minipaintingforyou
    @minipaintingforyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    „Shania Twain“ xD
    Those were the most beautiful cars ever raced. Sleek, but still aggressive. Every surface obviously aerodynamic, but very few ‚sticky uppy bits‘. Hotlaps looked spectacular with these nimble cars, bouncing across curbs. Imo nothing beats early 2000s F1 cars.
    WEC hypercars may have a shot at it, though not the Toyota =)

  • @whitewolf8051
    @whitewolf8051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being forced back to virtual learning has its perks. Now video!

  • @evant6288
    @evant6288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the mood lighting

  • @northman77
    @northman77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice book. I read it from start to finish.. hehe..

  • @minibus9
    @minibus9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @williamford9564
    @williamford9564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read the book in November . It is excellent and even non technical people like myself can understand it.

  • @Zonda1996
    @Zonda1996 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just regarding your statement at 2:15, Driver61 did a video a while ago on Flavio Briatore and Benetton's '94 season. One of the Benetton engineers from that season was interviewed and stated that, 'hypothetically,' a team could use the airbox pressure sensor as a way for the ECU to know what speed the vehicle is doing, and thereby, what engine rpm it should be operating at in that given window of barometric pressure and limiting it accordingly with strategic ignition and fuel cutting in lieu of wheel speed sensors from previous seasons.
    If ever questioned on the reason for the software, engineers would simply state that it was a form of engine protection as the limiter on its own couldn't hope to activate in time to stop an F1 engine from damaging itself if the rpm shot up too fast under wheelspin. In other words, the cat's finally out of the bag.
    Plus it's pretty easy to tell the difference between a diffuser blown exhaust making its iconic sound on downshifts vs. the misfiring sound of ignition based traction control limiting rpm under acceleration.
    Pretty genius way to skirt around the rules, honestly. The engineering arms race is just as entertaining as the actual racing sometimes.

  • @DrDiff952
    @DrDiff952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those cars look so much better than the 2021 cars!

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is funny cos at the time people hated how they were evolving 🤣

  • @minmaxxer
    @minmaxxer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's amazing how much your production quality has gone up in the span of like 3 videos

  • @johanssan
    @johanssan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for content :) Could you try a story about Alonso's very strange test crash in Barcelona?

    • @amacca2085
      @amacca2085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When he got “electrocuted”

  • @IliKeCAkEeverMrCake
    @IliKeCAkEeverMrCake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your my favorite talking head man

  • @stevenmacdonald9619
    @stevenmacdonald9619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talk about throwing a large cat amongst the pigeons. I commented on Senna's Williams on a video about Adrian Newey and started a TH-cam fire, since I was aghast at how the entire comments section decided to blame Frank Williams instead of Adrian Newey, and that was for getting rid of him, they still didn't even question that car. So I am stoked you are willing to question him. His success speaks for itself, but he's just another man made into a false messiah. He is a fallible to mistakes as anybody else. He's a visionary, and creates that which does not exist yet. That in itself makes it an unsure art.

  • @dougharvey9766
    @dougharvey9766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The main problem with the car was the gearbox and the uprights where carbon, and did not fair well with all the heat, also the gearbox was a major problem to work on, I think your find Mike Cougthlan was responsible for all the advanced ideas, I did hear that the budget was 8 million and it cost around double that by the time they called it a day

  • @CrunchyMotorsport
    @CrunchyMotorsport 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lighting is actually quite good.

  • @martinlaver007
    @martinlaver007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve read that book. It’s excellent.

  • @F-Man
    @F-Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another fantastic video, Aden Mullwart!
    Am Brasil!

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart4172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shania Twain's face is perfectly symmetrical!

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She’s as stunning now as she was in 1997.

  • @andyholmes7901
    @andyholmes7901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find this stuff fascinating, my daughter born 2004, thinks F1 started with her Alonso teddy bear from Silverstone in 2005 anything earlier is 'pre-history/boring' (black/white film syndrome) whilst I think it started with jackie s...a lesson in age, but you being mine(ish) Keep it up. I despair of so much in F1 atm that i love this 'history' stuff

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m 31 if that helps.

    • @andyholmes7901
      @andyholmes7901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey that only makes your knowledge/interest more impressive. No offence. Ok i'm a touch older, my daughter still thinks your boring, 'coz' . I don't, but I'm boring too...apparently...and thanks.

  • @hudzj01
    @hudzj01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the PlayStation shirt 😂

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jumper

    • @hudzj01
      @hudzj01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AidanMillward ah sorry it looked like a shirt

  • @richardcannon7327
    @richardcannon7327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting I was there…
    18a is a pivitol car for mclaren without it you dont get 23a which was a direct descendant.
    18a had a twin clutch gearbox. The clutches were driven by a dropgear that split the crank outlet but because this was done in the engine they had to run in engine oil… bad news. Was never reliable. The gearbox was very complex and inovative. Eye watering amounts of money were spent and a manufacturing mistake meant that the leaked oil and this was the final nail.
    Crash test … the car never passed until tens of kg of carbon were added. Mike Coughlans responsibility. Side impact was a disaster with the slead going clean through the car…
    Blown diffusers were not new. Mp4-2 4-4 and up to the 16a all had blown diffusers. The 18a took this to a new level by blowing the fold line. In my memory this was the cause of kimi’s crash at Barcelona as when the engine blipped to change gear it los a chunk of downforce.
    Re sidepods partially true. 19a was a fixed 18 with conventional gearbox. But Johnathan Neale insisted it was testing in the November before so not rpt of 18a. But this meant it inly had 18a aero which was out of date. This was fixed on 19b which became competitive straight away mid season.
    20a was a direct descendant
    18a also had a bonded on floor which never worked and lots of other details that took time to sort.

  • @robertjones3223
    @robertjones3223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know what I am reading next :) For those that it interests, "How to build a race car" is available free in kindle for prime members to borrow at the moment.

  • @hazerion9070
    @hazerion9070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Any ideas for the next episode of F1 Alternate Histories?

    • @mrterp04
      @mrterp04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What if the Indy 500 stayed a part of the F1 Grand Prix calendar/schedule?

    • @cozzy4447
      @cozzy4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if f1 never went with the hybrid era

    • @rajjy1976
      @rajjy1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if instead of the “F” in F1, they went with a different letter instead 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Dalejrandsr88
    @Dalejrandsr88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @jamiecloughgaming25387
    @jamiecloughgaming25387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Newey won 3 titles with McLaren, the drivers and constructors in 1998, and the drivers title of 1999, yes, they probably should have won more titles such as in 2000 when they had the fastest car over Ferrari but not by much, and in 2005 when their car the MP4-20, was comfortably quicker than the Renault R25...

  • @shitoryu8
    @shitoryu8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah, just in time for lunch.

  • @sultanabran1
    @sultanabran1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's actually the best book i've ever read

  • @emil5851
    @emil5851 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've just bought the book!

  • @areasquirrel
    @areasquirrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It must hurt for some that last time McLaren won the Constructors', one of their current drivers wasn't even born. I'll probably get eaten alive by somebody for saying I pronounce it the 'Empey four one eight', (The 'Empey' is a family in joke that would take too long to explain) and the MCL35M the 'Mc L thirty five M'. The 'one eight' brought in the narrow nose that has been an almost constant in Newey designs since, and which eventually, as these things do, become standard. It looked bizarre on the RB5, the narrow nose allied to the '09 aero rules, resulting in the tallest 'pillars' (do those have a name?) connecting the nose to the front wing I can remember. The 'one eight' failed the crash test, which was the first sign that this wasn't going to fly, because you wouldn't expect a Newey design to do that. I suppose Kimi and Alex must have been playing tennis when they crashed the car, eh, Ron? It was painful for me to watch, because Schumacher in the Ferrari was steamrollering once again in a bulletproof red tank in '04, and yet my abiding memories of the McLaren is Kimi in the first three races, seizing the rear axle and spinning at no miles an hour in Australia, spinning on the formation lap in Malaysia, and combusting in Bahrain with flames so large it looked like he was trying to launch himself into space. Years passing have made it hurt less, but at the time, teenage me seeing the driver my mum likes dominate was not very fun, because what your parents like sucks, right?

  • @Fishbone8891
    @Fishbone8891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never read a book faster than Adrian Newey's book. I read that book in about a week and it usually takes me a year or more to read anything simply because I don't like to read.

  • @johnchettleburgh6055
    @johnchettleburgh6055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a great book isn't it! Quite enjoyed the Ross Brawn/Adam Parr one too (Total Competition)

  • @Margarinetaylorgrease
    @Margarinetaylorgrease 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If a sound engineer doesn't know, then nobody knows.
    That's just how it is.

  • @BLKBRDD
    @BLKBRDD 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear the size zero concept is cursed in F1 😂. Someone should make a video on that.

  • @jchristie254
    @jchristie254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The car really was Shania Twain lol Love it

  • @ZsebtelepHUN
    @ZsebtelepHUN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did a storytime episode on this, but it was... removed i guess?
    Any chance to see that back again?

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. The reasons why have been well documented.

  • @FelixIsMyName
    @FelixIsMyName 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adain, pls could you do one of these on the ferrari 640/641?

  • @aneesshaik5556
    @aneesshaik5556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember waiting for the 18 come out while watching Ferrari run away with the title unopposed. It was a disaster

  • @gandalf_thegrey
    @gandalf_thegrey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:00
    It's always a rollercoaster when you realize how old certain people are. People born in 2002 are 19 to 20 years old. That's simple math. But I also refuse to believe in that.

  • @seinfeld11123
    @seinfeld11123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    even today Newey's cars are so tighly packaged. they have to make a cutout for the drivers hands as the steering wheel arc when they would turn the wheel the knuckles would hit the crash structure.... jeez

  • @Rand0mGypsy
    @Rand0mGypsy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice theme as always

  • @neilmowles7964
    @neilmowles7964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard the exhaust gasses used for the blown diffuser melted the suspension arms. The side pod and coke bottle rear end was also too much and as mentioned cooked the car. His concept didn't work properly until it was with red bull and by that point everyone had a high nose design in which i believe McLaren struggled to start with as they went for a low nose concept for several years trying to chase this flawed design even when newey was gone.

  • @daveblock4061
    @daveblock4061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great book, Apostle of Colin Chapman. As was Gordon Murray, John Barnard et al.

    • @markfrankham1
      @markfrankham1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chapman built race cars drivers got killed in. Not much talk of Senna's Williams designed by yours truly

    • @daveblock1688
      @daveblock1688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markfrankham1 in Chapman's Day all cars were death traps. Patrick Head was untimately responsible for the Williams, that is why Newey left. And there still is not conclusive proof of what failed.

  • @chrisdutton3189
    @chrisdutton3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I want to know is what does an angry Kimi look like?

  • @ianriggers
    @ianriggers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like the T shirt where did you get it from?

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a jumper. H&M apparently, wife got me it for Christmas.

  • @Agallizo
    @Agallizo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don Pedro de la rosa said multiple times, that car cas real danger. Non of the test drivers wanted to drive it

  • @JD86Vintage
    @JD86Vintage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, McLaren should also have the 07&08 constructor's championship. But you know... Alonso happened.

  • @PeatCowman
    @PeatCowman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2004 wasn't a total bust. The 19b was pretty handy.

    • @TheSt1092
      @TheSt1092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too late by then . Ferrari were well down the road the championship terms by the time the MP4-19B was introduced.

  • @wackyd9863
    @wackyd9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just read that Jacques Villeneuve is going to drive in the daytona 500 this year.

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one:
    Newey: "I'm going to design a car that's so complicated..."

  • @laborliberal
    @laborliberal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The book is amazing! Covers a lot on Damon leaving williams and the Newey leaving as well.

  • @MohsniLegend
    @MohsniLegend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best F1 you tuber by far

  • @Olivyay
    @Olivyay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blown diffusers of the 80s (yes, they first appeared in the 80s!) and 90s didn't make the same sound as those from 2011 did. In fact, everyone seems to forget this but RedBull already had the blown diffuser in 2010, and didn't make that noise yet. The "brrrr" noise that sounds like a massively louder traction control came from the way they completely changed how they managed the engines to make them blow exhaust even without power. The blown diffusers of the 80s and 90s were never doing that.
    Just for fun: here's visible exhaust blowing over the diffuser from a 1997 Reynard ChampCar: th-cam.com/video/8MZZ6LLds34/w-d-xo.html (at exactly 26:45~46 you can see the lit exhaust plume gently rolling down over the edge)

    • @fam.hunger5244
      @fam.hunger5244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The noise is the difference between "hot and cold-blown"-diffusors...

  • @tddsctt
    @tddsctt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're funny!

  • @ioni6x
    @ioni6x ปีที่แล้ว

    ross brawn won it with 3 teams too: Benetton - Ferrari - brawn Gp

  • @gabormiklay9209
    @gabormiklay9209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ironically, the 2002 car wasn't successful, but the modified 2002 car for the 2003 season (MP4-17D) almost won the championship (with Kimi), which was run instead of the original 2003 car, the MP4-18.
    But the MP4-18 gave them a lot of knowledge which they could use later.

  • @pali1H
    @pali1H 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marc Presley book is a really good read

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve been told Elvis has some good stuff.

  • @daniwalmsley611
    @daniwalmsley611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe with 22 regulations we might see them fighting for wins more often
    Mclaren: Proceeds to only beat the exploding RBs and AT, and a williams and aston martin
    *cries in mclaren in fangirl*
    Mercedes managed to perfect the tiny sidepods early on
    Mercedes: Hold my crash structure
    Loved your vid though :P

  • @gurrrn1102
    @gurrrn1102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As opposed to his raced death trap, the Williams FW16...

    • @rajjy1976
      @rajjy1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh shit 😂

  • @clivejones7995
    @clivejones7995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Newey should be Knighted, Also Ross Brawn. They are the most successful talent in F1.....

  • @ImInLoveWithBulla
    @ImInLoveWithBulla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was this really 20 years ago?

  • @Number-ju1nl
    @Number-ju1nl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to build a RB5.
    I want to see how to build a RB7.

  • @richardcondon8738
    @richardcondon8738 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    69 point's - NICE! 😂

  • @TheZudah
    @TheZudah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it true that newey designed the 90 or 91 lola indycar?

  • @yashsvidixit7169
    @yashsvidixit7169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Adrian likes his email printed". Do you remember who said this ??

  • @saltbjorn
    @saltbjorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These censors have me creased 😂😂

  • @AJZulu
    @AJZulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only McLaren made a reliable car on the 2000s. Man...

    • @TheVeyron623
      @TheVeyron623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also if Williams didn't have that wanky walrus nose from the start of 2004...

  • @kangaroo505
    @kangaroo505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informative video, BUT I found it frustrating watching you look to your right at your notes very couple of seconds. Maybe have them more inline with your camera so not as obvious..

  • @Shaunie2k
    @Shaunie2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Ross Brawn? Ross won with three constructors. Bennetton, Ferrari and self titled Brawn GP. Three Constructors three championships?

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Was the technical director rather than the designer.

    • @Shaunie2k
      @Shaunie2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AidanMillward Thanks for reply

  • @DanAlexC
    @DanAlexC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's a given. You have to say nice when no69 appears.

  • @lordkinbote74
    @lordkinbote74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa! Is your offfice trying to get laid?
    Looks great. Just caught me off guard.

  • @LewisSkinner
    @LewisSkinner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:40 giddity