Colonizing the Sun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- We contemplate colonizing planets, but what about the stars themselves?
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*******Next week's episode will be early*****
Before I forget, I'm away at conference next week so Evacuating Earth on Jan 11 will probably get released around breakfast time (Eastern) rather than before lunch at 11 AM as is my norm. I'd imagine they'll be wifi in whichever room I'm stuck in but would rather get it out early than risk it.
you can upload it earlier and then set a release date and time for it to go public sir.
I actually can't, the 'schedule' option treats the video as private, so I can't show it to anyone else in advance for review. Plus the scheduling options of our others platforms (soundcloud doesn't even have one, facebook, patreon, etc) don't match well. I won't be uploading though, just flicking the video from Unlisted to Public, it's already sitting there waiting for that.
You already have it finished? WOW you're ahead of schedule quite a bit. I'm already excited for the next XD
ebigunso Makes sense, he probably has a few months worth already mostly complete and just going through the next batch. Ford's methods aren't just for cars after all.
Isaac Arthur Can you please do a video on different methods to get to space.
i remember a few episodes ago "we try to be realistic and down to earth here, also in a month or so we will talk about colonizing the sun"
Kuba Jackiewicz hahaha
+Kuba Jackiewicz -- And now you see, it was not empty words!
now we will be colonizing a black hole and after that we can colonize the entirety of the omniverse
edit: wait i mean't this as a joke but he actually did put colonizing a black hole XD
Not that crazy, just grab a potion of fire resistance.
There's nothing that makes it physically impossible, is their point I think
Q: Why Colonize the sun?
A: UNNNNNNLIMMMITEDDDDD POWWWWAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Josh Perry dew it
In the name of the galactic senat of the Republic, you're under Arrest, chancellor.
@@susanneszczepanek8357 are you threatening me master jedi?
Lmao 🤣 🤣
Can you imagine how effective solar panels would be there!!!
THE MADMAN DID IT! HOLY SHIT HE DID IT!
Gordozin:You can’t colonize the sun
Issac: Hold my beer
Isaac you've gone to far.
Keep going.
I swear Mr. Arthur: I always thought that I had a fertile imagination (in the best sense of the term) when it comes to space concepts , but your ideas so consistently impressive. You are a god among men!
Arthur Isaac, blowing minds constantly since 2015.
i mean.... titan was one thing..... but the sun, i think your just showing off now.
Happy 4th Anniversary.
I've watched your videos for about a year and I am still amazed at how you manage to discuss these really out there and huge topics whilst avoiding the sensationalism that so many fall into. Thank you Isaac, I'm sure 2018 will be a great year!
8:28 finally i understand why oven temperatures are so high, but opening the oven doesn't burn us to death!! i've looked for explanations for months, maybe years. never expected to find the answer at isaac arthur's videos!!
Yeah, thermodynamics is not exactly intuitive for most folks. Issac is one of the few folks I've seen who can explain the basics to the layman in a way that makes any sense.
I didn't get it either until my high school physics teacher gave a remarkably similar explanation. His other explanation was "If temperature was like the driving a car at a set speed, then deep space is an autobahn with nobody on it but two lunatics driving at 120 mph. Exciting if they crash, but they probably wont see each other. a pot of boiling water is like a demolition derby or a figure-8 race. a bit slower, but lots more accidents."
We learned about it in school, and I also have a hard time explaining it to some people. You can learn anything if your interest is piqued!
Holy crap Isaac. I'm used to your videos being good, but I think this one is set well above your usual bar. And on a subject where I had little interest. Phenomenal work.
Hahaha! I love the opening quote from 'They Might Be Giants'. I used to sing that song to my students
spite is indeed a fairly usual source of scientific progress. "Hold my beer I'mma solve this bitch"
love this channel
I was like: no, he didn't ...
but yeah, he did it...
impressed once again
Heh... “I’m your host, the aforementioned Issac Arthur” - always make me chuckle... love the channel/content!
Abhishek Rastogi it's the best greeting
It's weird how i no longer think of colonising the sun as a impossible task.
Guess that's what Isaac Arthur does to you :)
Your last episode threw me into a state of existential crisis contemplating mortality and the eventual fizzling out and death of both each and every human and eventually the entire universe. It was utterly terrifying but enlightening. Thanks for your great series! Memento mori.
Instant thumbs up for TMBG quote.
Yep
Forget that song, they got it wrong.
That thesis was rendered invalid.
The sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.
Yep
Alternate soundtracks for this episode should include;
Island In The Sun - Weezer
Walkin' On The Sun - Smash Mouth
Walking On Sunshine - Katrina & The Waves
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden
Share With Me The Sun - Portugal. The Man
Hard Sun - Eddie Vedder
I have seriously considered jumping through the hoops to get permission to play black hole sun if I ever get around to doing an episode on that concept.
Wow, first reply from you! And that would make for a pretty good episode, not entirely sure how hard it would be to get rights to the song, though. (However, I think Chris Cornell would've enjoyed the pun.)
Hm... Zapan.
The Sunshine theme.
I genuinely feel your videos should be mandatory in schools. The more people we have excited as we are about science, the higher the likelihood of us making this a reality is. As always another awesome video
You can't live on the sun, it's too hot.
Isaac Arthur; "hold my beer"
I've never been more exited for the evacuation of earth or the end of the universe you make amazing videos happy Arthur day.
There is this discovery channel evacuation earth episode, but I am sure Arthurs will be magnitudes better.
Yankees not allowed on peoples Republic of Sun - kim jong-fun
...been more (excited) for...
The Sun is a mass of incandescent gas
A giant nuclear furnace
We would not think to settle there
For it would surely burn us
Without the sun, without a doubt
There'd be no you and me
And now we all will learn
How easy living there might be
James Burleson I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard it. :)
th-cam.com/video/sLkGSV9WDMA/w-d-xo.html
I read Paul Birch's paper on colonizing the sun "Supra-Stellar Earth" in the early 2000's and was captivated - thanks for revisiting the concept Isaac!!!
No other channel on youtube covers a topic so completely as your channel.
I absolutely love it, the only channel I actually set aside time each week to watch.
0:16 "there would be no you or me, but its not a place that we could be" ! AHHH! you missed the perfect rhyming opportunity!
CuteFuzzyWeasel the sun is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace
where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees
yo-ho it's hot the sun is not a place where we could live
but here on earth there'd be no life without the light it gives
The sun is a mass
of incandescent gas
Without it there wouldn't be
a place to live for you and me
But the sun is really hot,
a place to live, we think, it's not
Because the other two just quoted the song...the introduction is a reference to a They Might Be Giants song. He also left out the next line, since it wouldn't fit with the point of the introduction (or the channel in general-if you don't understand the importance of light to life on Earth, you probably need a few more years of school before you can understand these videos.)
It's interest watching some of these doom and gloom science shows now. Like the sun expanding and destroying the Earth. Well you can just do some starlifting, or you can use Shkadov thruster to move that problem star. Just go talk with Isaac, he'll sort you out :)
Thank you so much Mr. (soon to be Dr. ....right?) Arthur, for helping to keep the dream alive! Your vids are inspiring and offer encouragement to many of us who have become cynical and pessimistic about humankind's future.
Please keep up the excellent work! You are amazing, good sir!!!
Soon to be Mr. ... for MASTER!
Lots of people talk about how "the sun is a deadly lazer," but Isaac Arthur actually wants to do something about it.
I don’t know if I’ve gotten use to your voice but I’d say your speech has gotten much better
evan448 lol was thinking the same thing, maybe the videos help him just as much as they help us 😎
Someone already noticed that and Isaac told them he's doing speech therapy.
well it definitely shows congrats to him
Yeah I stopped using subtitles a few months ago (I am not a native English speaker, btw).
I still need the subtitles. I hope he does not discontinue them. Of course, I'd watch these even if there was literally no narration, but still subtitles. The value of these videos lies entirely in the fact that the words are chosen well. I am frequently impressed by how he consistently manages to present material in just the right manner where a scientifically literate adult doesn't have to struggle to keep up, but does have to stay constantly engaged to understand.
The opening lines were poetic. I kept waiting for a rhyme to resolve the tension.
They're from a song by They Might Be Giants.
So they are!
They Might Be Giants, "Why Does the Sun Shine?"
th-cam.com/video/3JdWlSF195Y/w-d-xo.html
As Scott Adams, of Dilbert fame once wrote: "Engineers take the word 'impossible' as a challenge. When an Engineer says something is impossible, that is code for 'I don't want to do it.' and the best way to get an Engineer motivated is to tell him/her that it's impossible and/or they don't have the skills to so it."
And, here you go. You say it's impossible and only jokingly say you'll do it. But as soon as your volunteers echo back the same sentiment, you figure it out. LOL
Brandon Taitano p
I saw that Issac Arthur flag on Mercury. Is it your plan to become our space overlord? I guess I'd be cool with that. That was a really thought provoking video. Thank you!
With him, it's Galactic Emperor or nothing! *HAIL ISAAC ARTHUR* ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Belmiris, I don't know about that, but, Issac Arthur can have a house or apartment in one of my towns on Mars, in the Venusian atmosphere and on my spacestead!
Surely a Langston field would help with sailing a ship into a red giant..... Thanks for another Thursday keeping me entertained while dealing with shoes and Polish, the company is well appreciated.
:) Yeah it was much on my mind when writing that. I think we'll end up doing Mote for an Alien Civs episode some months down the road, already did one Niven Book of the Month and I don't want to do two by the same author in one year.
Isaac Arthur just finished Bowl of Heaven! The sequel Shipstar will be next. Basically built half a Dyson shell w a hole in the bottom turning it w help of giant mirrors into a giant stelazer & thruster pushing the entire thing through space using magnetic fields to keep everything stable. Next book should tell us why they built such a thing and where exactly they're going! Penned by Larry Niven and Gregory Benford. The why build anything this large the real question. What need were they fulfilling?
Isaac, first of all wish you a happy and wonderful year. Secondly, I must again say that you're one of very few people who are able to provide me with hope for the future of humankind. I guess being impressed by the work of a genius does that to you ;)
happy new year sir can't wait to see what you have for this year
Absolutely amazing channel...thank you Isaac!
Can't wait for the collab w/Dr. Paul Sutter.
_Release the Spaceman!_ ^_^
Amazing Episode. also it's very freaky how we'll eventfully extract matter from the Sun.
thank you Isaac.
Great way to start 2018! This was a very interesting and exciting video.
Just when I thought the limits of colonization have been reached Isaac goes further and colonizes the sun. Is there anything he cannot do?
I look forward to more as always. :D
The Sun being 998 out of every 1000 atoms in the solar system is a great way to describe the distribution of matter. Thanks to you and your team for another great episode.
Next week: How to evacuate Earth in a hurry, because the Sun colony people decided to point their huge stellaser at your planet.
We could basically spend entire millenias around our own solar system before actually needing to go beyond...that's the more I learn the more I watch those videos. But I also now know that we will never stop growing, giving the chance. Thank you mister Arthur for nurturing my fate in mankind future glory in space.
Amazing episode, I learned a lot of new things A++++++
fucking finally oh thankyou isaac i have been eagerly awaiting this episode, so my deepest thanks my friend.
Amazing as always Isaac and I'm seriously hyped for the next 2 weeks episodes, and have a great year
Awesome !! I've been waiting for this since last Thursday! Here's to another fantastic year of Arthursdays! Cheers everyone.
Hey Isaac New video I see
Your an awesome creator so keep up the great videos
4 more years of Isaac
I've been following you for a while now. I still remember your voice when I heard it first. Weird as hell but does puts me to sleep often now. Your channel has grown and deservingly so. I'm proud for some reason. Gives me hope.
The stellar laser (stellaser) just blew my mind... holy crap that'd be a big laser.
Even using our entire sun's output, blowing earth away would take an entire week (according to IA and his team), so that gives you an idea of how far-fetched Star Wars really is.
Every episode, you amaze me at how much you know, but also amaze me with how you are able to apply that knowledge in a way that provides some unique space application. You are a visionary. You aren’t afraid to think big.
Have you ever been pursued by someplace like planetary resources or the planetary society to participate in some crowd sourced competition to help design a space development? What is taking them so long?
Actually yes, but I tend to avoid discussing those sorts of projects till they're ripe. Neither of those two specifically though
The sun is the source of all life, just like Arthursday's are the source of all the amazing content
Your intro music is so damn inspiring and it gets me primed for the video. I love everything you do man, thanks for the great content.
Nice They Might Be Giants reference
'You can't land on the sun and mine it for metals with a bucket and a shovel' - Isaac Arthur
It's scientific insights like this which keep me coming back to this channel.
All your stuff is great, but this was exceptional! Thank you so much for bringing some of these ideas to my attention and imagination. I'll have to return the favor someday, somehow
to prevent mirrors from changing orbits because of the pressure you will have to apply a tiny thrust constantly.
+Jack Vernian -- We realize that. Other orbits are possible which take care of that automatically, but they would be a little harder to understand in an introduction to Stellaser. Also, auxiliary cheap mirrors can be attached as lightsails to correct for such effects, but again... too detailed for a short intro.
+YodaWhat yes, after thinking about it it is possible to put them in elliptic orbits which would rotate around the point of mass due to tiny acceleration from photon pressure, but there still would be 1 engine needed. Not saying that you would need to use it ferquently at all, but still. But I still have no idea how to organize orbits so that both of the objects stay at the same relative distance just by the virtue of the differences of accelerations. Could you elaborate a bit more? Thanks.
I could imagine that suns make good military outposts, because it requires special tech to get close to it
This channel is awesome
That was a fantastic intro :)
It Was! His cadence almost had me expecting him busting into rhymes.
They're song lyrics by They Might Be Giants, for those out of the loop.
Happy Arthursday to all, the new year can truly begin now!
THANK YOU Isaac for providing this awesome resource to learn about space, alien concepts and technologies, and more. I've been watching a few channels similar to yours and saw your Civilizations At The End Of Time series which was fantastic. Keep up the good work, and I can't wait to learn more in the future!
I'm walking on Sunshine~
Sorry, it just sounded so appropriate for the title!
That's okay I'm a huge 80s fan
WhoaOh
Or, 'You Might As Well Be Walking On The Sun...'
I feel a certain contentment watching your videos.
It stems from an understanding that more eyes are turning to see the possibilities of our reality around us and what we cane make of it & of course our selves.
A sufficient understanding and Full comprehension of a certain subject opens a great many other perceptions to that mind as long as it does not lose its way.
I believe I heard it said that Einstein felt in his later years that mankind's greatest advances in the next 100 years will not be in the sciences that he loved but in consciousness itself.
Two subjects whose understandings can help boost each other while wrapping themselves around each other as they develop our reality.
(I do not consider integration of hardware into a brain at all relevant of helpful in these comments, completely irrelevant in fact, even strongly detrimental in any reasonably close future)
Issac Arthur has plans for his own Death Star and it's far more scary and untouchable than that StarWars puffball. No X Wing is taking this sucker down! :P
Solanumtinkr just knock one mirror a tiny bit out of alignment?
Many many mirrors and beams and with all that power going spare and all the materials you might have to get through fleets as well as there being no stealth in space. It might be a tall order to knock them all out.
IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR!
So build your own
in this snowstorm this vid about the sun just warmed me right up
😄😆😅
Not sure if this idea has come up, but what about inward/downward bound: colonizing the deep ocean or colonizing and mining a rocky planet's core?
Yes, most likely, we've been debating the potential title for a while
great Isaac Arthur, here in Brazil we have accompanied his incredible work, it is a great pleasure to accompany his work, awakening our mind, our way of thinking, always feeding us with new perspectives, scientifically and philosophically, congratulations congratulations congratulations!
Colonizing Sun, sh*t just got real.
OK, I was at the start of the video going to use the "sun is a deadly laser" meme because your dyson beam episode came out before That meme became popular. But then you discuss stellasers and well, "THE SUN IS A DEADLY LASER."
Now, you could say, we are colonizing our Sun, by living on the various bodies, original and artificial, that
circle our Sun. Just an observation.
Another excellent video!
1:28 Lol, this is how I imagine that conversation went....
Stooge - "Hey Isaac! So, what's the craziest kind of place that we could try to colonize?"
Isaac - "Hmmm, how about the sun?"
Stooge - "THE SUN?! Are you crazy? You can't colonize the sun!"
Isaac - "You sure about that?"
Stooge - " Well, no. But, why would you even want to try?
Isaac - " Because I can BITCH!"
Another to add to my favorites. Keep up the great work Isaac.
Haha, I have the same opinion about Sunshine. Such an awesome fucking concept and it was ruined with a horror plot twist. Still an awesome movie.
I suspect the studio insisted on the horror/action part, I normally dislike blaming studio execs for all that is wrong in a film but there are persistent rumors in this case.
Thanks, Isaac, now all I can think about is flying a spaceship through a red dwarf.
good work isaac, the first human to come close to type 2 civilization ideas
Before all and of course... Thumbed up and shared!! Thank you Isaac!! Happy Birthday! (Channel's) Happy ARTHURSDAY everyone!!
Sgt. Shill happy birthday?? Did I miss something???
Jon Caser lol do you follow on Twitter?
I'm guessing he means this is the channels 3rd birthday. If he means me it's a little over 9 months early, though it is on a Thursday this year :) Though technically the pilot episode was made in Septmeber, a few days before my birthday in fact, I just treat Dyson Dilemma as the real "episode 1"
Isaac Arthur exactly!! Lol I probably should have been more clear on that.. My bad...
Sgt. Shill too late... I already ordered an enormous birthday cake and the biggest partyvan I could find.
At about 13:00 and after:
Wal Thornhill has described filament structures (birkeland currents) flowing through the Universe, along which, strings of stars emerge. The video makes me think I'm riding one of those currents. Super cool!
I have to say nice job as always Issac never make me regret subscribing to this channel also noticed your lisp isnt as noticeable as it once was and need to get to rewatch some of your videos to watch to get some ideas
This is exactly WHY,...i like this channel.
Wow. If ever I decided to write a sci-fi novel, I'd watch all your videos first.
Really great illustrative graphics in this episode.
I really admire the thought you put into these episodes. Colonize the sun? Only Isaac can remove the impossibility.
Off to see if Cody crashes his new drone on Cody's Lab.
That stellaser looks like a gift that may well keep on giving. Great as a Beamer for fast outgoing trips, great as a brake for incoming trips, great for communications at extreme distances, and great for power distribution to the more power-starved regions of our system - like out at the grav solar focus. An all-round champion, and its power supply is free.
Perfect timing, just finished Sundiver!
You called the sun a killamajig, which got me thinking of 2 things:
Stargate, where they detonate a sun to kill their enemies, which are vaporized in seconds.
DBZ, in which they can shoot multi-terrajoule or even pets-joules energy beams at each other, but Goku shoots someone into the sun to kill them.
In my country, right after the fall of URSS was a joke about Ceausescu (former comunist leader in my country), Gorbaciov and Reagan, all meeting at a conference about the space race. Reagan talked about going to the Moon, everyone cheers, Gorbaciov talks about going to Mars, everyone cheers. Ceausescu starts talking about going to Sun. Everyone is baffled "But how the f*ck, the Sun it's so hot!" Ceausecu replies: "I've talked with our scientists and we decided we gonna land at night".
Thank you for another amazing episode, i'm subscribed to many channels on youtube but this is the only one that i have notifications for, and I can say i've seen all the episodes, some more than once.
When you first mentioned colonizing the sun, I thought you were either joking or a little crazy. Now I've watched this video, colonization of stars doesn't seem very far fetched . Thanks Isaac Arthur, you show that colonizing a star like the sun could be done !
I think most of the production team thought the same, jury is still out on if they were right :)
I'd still put a star at the very bottom of the list of locations to colonize, along with Neutron star and black hole. Do-able, but what's the point until they are the very LAST resort.
Paul Walsh, I think the only way to colonze the sun or another star, would be to build shells around it, think a Dyson Sphere, only a lot smaller. Thin strips of a strong material could be built around the sun, these strips would be at least several km long each and they could be placed fairly close to the sun, say about 1,000,000 - 28,000,000 km above the sun's corona. Though, I highly doubt the sun would make prime real estate in which to live, it would make a mighty great solar power plant!
Could solazers also be used as a form of interstellar communication?
Sure, though they might be kinda overpowered, you can't talk to another star easily using a home pen laser but existing systems can produce one tight enough and strong enough for a simple receiver to pick up.
Isaac Arthur I can't believe I got a reply! Ive watched every one of your videos and have seen some maybe 10 times over. This is by far my favorite channel. How do I become involved in voting for new videos? Are there any other channels you would recommend that are similar to this?
+Jesse James -- A modulated Stellaser would be powerful enough to receive across billions of lightyears... assuming nearly perfect optics, of course.
Jesse James, google the words "unique genius", I think you'll find a picture of Isaac there : )
This is one of my most favourite episodes, since it is a bit more thinking out of the box, rather than all that boring terraforming and orbital habitats
Someone on an ask-anything-website: "When will men walk on the sun?"
Me: "i thought there were no stupid questions, but damn!! this one is!!"
Isaac: "Hang on. I can answer that and explain quite a lot about the concept behind it."
We land when it's night time
Oh my goodness! I almost fell out of my chair with delighted laughter in the first 20 seconds of this video.
Kudos on quoting They Might Be Giants, that worked brilliantly as an intro.
This idea is definitely intriguing. While it seems otherworldly, it definitely takes a true visionary to think of these things.
next episode: "Colonizing black holes"
dzigerica666, Just about the only way you could colonize a black hole is by building a Dyson sphere or shell world around the black hole about 3- 100 times the black hole's diameter from the event horizon, you could then harness the black hole's energy.
He really did that video…
Perfect start to the year. This is definitely one of the best videos yet.
The conclusion of these videos is that there will someday be a Googleplex of people in the universe.
If I remember correctly, Robert Heinlein's 'Citizen of the Galaxy' was set in a time when human colonization and expansion across the galaxy was so vast, that it was estimated that the total mass of humanity was now estimated to be greater than that of the entire planet Earth.
Talk about 'you can't go home again...'
Well as Dr.Carl Sagan states in Cosmos: a Personal Voyage, Episode 9: "The Lives of the Stars" (my personal favorite btw... "if you wish to make an apple pie from scratch... you must first invent the universe"... sigh...), Dr.Sagan points out that "the total number of elementary particles... in the accessible universe is of the order of 10^80... still much much less than a google, and vastly less than a googleplex." In fact, Dr.Sagan goes on to say that "a piece of paper large enough to contain all the zeros in a googleplex, couldn't be stuffed into the known universe.
Another great video. Thanks Isaac!
...to boldly discuss what no one has discussed before! :-)
Another great video Isaac, I'm glad I found this channel when I did. Glad to see you addressed the problem of energy loss ineffiency with storing and transporting solar energy. Although, there would be so much of it that waste wouldn't be near as much of a concern.
Energy waste is a concern now because we have a finite supply of energy in the form of hydrocarbons. It wouldn't be a concern until we hit K2 and need absolutely every megawatt, until that point the sun's energy is effectively infinite, or at least more than we could ever use in a given time frame.
To a degree it's always a concern even in abundance phases when you might have K2 power levels but K1-ish population, but yeah at K2 levels even a .00000001% increase in efficiency or loss can be enough to support billions of people.