End of the day they don’t care what the non chinese players have to say. Pale skin has always been a symbol of beauty in China and they know any other skin tone won’t sell well.
@@exnecross3141the difference is while in China pale skin means you have some kind of an authority and chilling all day in a shade, tanned people do hard job in the fields under the sun. But in US it is mostly about racism 😅
@exnecross3141 In the US having a healthy tan means that you can afford vacations instead of working a 9 to five. But this mostly applies to white people.
The difference is that your difference is seen as pretty while dark skin is seen as dirty and ugly in china. Its just racism and ppl are too cowardly to admit it.
damn, there's literally way more of "you" in every game I ever played than any kind of black people. Except if we're talking about enemies/hostile NPCs. In that case black people show up a lot more It's disgusting
But the people from the desert of sumeru are dark skinned 😅. I was also surprised that none of the new ones were darker. Is just what people sell. I would just love to play with someone like "ekko" from LoL in genshin
If you actually look at the people and characters from Sumeru they arent even really dark skinned. Only some NPCs come close to it but all the playable sumeru characters are either white or tan and thats all we get from hyv
Hoyo suck at representation because they have never prmoised us any accurate/faithful representation of any nation/culture/people. XD They take inspiration form different cultures but they have never put emphasis on accurately portraying them (since Genshin's areas are an amalmagation of differnet cultures/mythologies/folklores) Also I find it funny that no one threw a tantrum when Liyue/Inazuma came out, and none of the native characters, neither Inazumans, nor Liyuecharacters looked Asian. They had white skin, used the same models the Mondstadtian characters used, and had huge stylizied eyes. XD If they didn;t put emphasis on 'accurately representing' their own people as far as appearances goes, then what were you thinking, what will happen in NAtlan? XD
I hate to tell you but if anything Sumeru shown os the fact that the actual player base don't give a shit abut this drama Nahida is the 5th highest sales banner and that is a wery clear massage from the actual players to Mihoyo "give us More Wiefu we dont care"
There are actual problems like hunger, poorness and terrorism, and all you do is complain about anime gacha fictional characters? really? Genshin is not representing anything because is not America nor Africa its just Natlan, now if you wanna help with real life problems it would be nice.
finally someone with common sense here...thank you for pointing this out...we got so many problems in real life yet people are still arguing about virtual things that didn't even exist in the first place
@@heartache5345 In a videogame? it ain't racism anyway 💀 Yall literally saying there is a "correct" skin color that's called racism coff coff. Color does no represent neither a nation neither its people, thinking it does is way superficial. En resumen ni siquiera saben lo que dicen porque solo siguen estereotipos y se toman personal a personajes ficticios que ya de por si hay disclaimer sobre eso en la gran mayoría de videojueogs, lo que reclaman ni siquiera les concierne.
I'm black and I agree with Elwey. And let's be honest Hoyo is never going to listen to these complaints and the game will continue stacking more dough because of it.
People have the right to complain about a product? If a game is culturally appropriating cultures and doesnt pay the least amount of respect to them its well within peoples right to be mad.
People can complain if hoyoverse is using deities(Gods) from their culture and making them not what they are. plus its getting so boring of hoyoverse to keep releasing the same paper white characters with either rat tail or split hair. In Natlan we couldve gotten variety and uniqueness
@@imjustaguycalledsano This is the official response from hoyoverse: "Dear Traveler, Thank you for your feedback. Please be kindly reminded that Genshin Impact is a work of fiction and is not related to actual people, events, groups, or organizations. We do really hope for your understanding. • 介 Home Kind regards, Genshin Impact CS Team" You are crying over fictional characters. You can be mad but that doesn’t make you any less stupid for crying over the skin tone of a fictional character.
If people upset about representation in a chinese fantasy gacha game them better to stop playing videos games and start represent themself in a real world. Game is fictional. It is not based but inspired. It is art and art is a vision of artist. If you still upset then make your own gacha game with as many colors as you want
When you say you are taking inspiration from a or a few cultures it is expected you would atleast somewhat represent them well as otherwise you are just using it as a marketing gimmick to attract customers, people wanting hoyo to do a good job after making statements about taking inspiration from cultures for their regions especially after how well they represented their home country with yunjin, this is one of the most normal and reasonable takes that the hoyo community has and you can also tell the artist are being stifled in their creativity looking at these skin color edits for the Natlan units
@@vantage_val1093 that is the point of inspiration, no? They took base line and build their own fantasy world upon that. It is not a historic game. It is their vision (and to be fair this vision is to sell characters to asian people who love pale skinned characters) Yes people can be upset but my point is it is unproductive to be upset about skin color of a fictional characters in a chinese fantasy game. And i dont remember when hoyo advertized their regions as "look guys! We made your home country! Come a check it out!"
Right? And I haven't even played this game, but even I know what sells in China and what doesn't. Hoyo is just making business decisions nothing more, nothing less. Also it makes sense to listen to the Chinese players since that's the country this game blew up in.
@@aravil2858 you are complaining about the skin tone of a fictional character because you don’t think it is dark enough to be representative of something from the real world when genshin isn’t even suppose to be realistic in the first place. What about that is constructive criticism towards art? Art would be writing, story, visuals, gameplay, character designs (and no that doesn’t mean only nitpicking their skin color), worldbuilding, anything that can actually be considered a creative part of game development, not the skin tone of a fiction character. There is no quality lost or gained from a character in media having lighter or dark skin and if you honestly think that quality is lost or gained based on skin color, you aren’t a critic, you are just racist.
@@aravil2858critisize netflix and disney first bcs they‘re blackwashing for years. U guys only cry when it turns against black people, u dont fight for equality, u fight for pro black
@@crashphoenix6362 Taking an african diety and not paying any form of homage to it is a valid point of critique. Genshin Impact is a product. And if the billion dollar company refuses to respect culture then people should be allowed to complain. Stop acting like this game is free from any faults. It isnt and if the voice actors are willing to come out about it then clearly there is something inherently wrong. Furthermore, from a worldbuilding standpoint, Natlan characters should be tan or dark skinned if they have lived in a hot climate.
@@imjustaguycalledsano it’s fiction. Creators have the right to take as much or as little inspiration as they want from the source material. Nahida and candace are both based on real world deities/figures yet nobody cares because it is a fictional interpretation. It’s an interpretation, and more often than not it doesn’t matter how much is changed because it’s fiction. By your logic, something like zeus from the latest percy jackson tv series would be considered offensive because a black actor is playing a greek god, or having an asian actor play jesus would be offensive. But here’s the thing, it’s an interpretation. You don’t need to stick to anything. That’s the entire point of inspiration. All you are doing is gatekeeping. You obsessing over skin color in a video game does nothing except make you look even more racists than the people you are calling out.
First of all you said it's based off middle eastern and south east asian regions - India doesn't count in south east asia. It's south asian and their is no south east asian influence in sumeru. Secondly, there's a fair amount of quite fair people especially around north west India and since it does include middle eastern influences as well - they have quite fair people as well. And at the end of the day they could simply be showing all caucasian looking people in sumeru and it would be all fine as it's not supposed to represent some historical perspective. This is not like AC which is set in a real country, real era with real characters that needs to worry about accuracy of representation even amongst works of fiction.
So I’m a Indian with my family being from Gujarat and I know people can be pale skinned my camera and lighting doesn’t show it but I am pretty pale for my people but even I am darker skin tone than most if not the entire cast of sumeru and natlan which is saying a lot even when pale skinned people do exist in all cultures
@@vantage_val1093 True, pale skinned people do exist in different cultures but it's mostly due to genetic reasons that people developed more melanin to acclimatize with the environment and migratory patterns in the past that helped shape things. I don't think Genshin is going to present all that especially when it's a world out of many - for all we know it could be a Data World out of Honkai. With that said as long as they account for the current setting - like having darker characters for the desert region (which they've done, then it does make sense). Also, people from the southern parts of Rajasthan (which is not a desert), Punjab and Haryana have a fair amount of people with quite plain complexions.
Hey, listen up, Genshin Impact is just a game inspired by various cultures. They ain't racist just because they didn't create an all-black playable character cast. And seriously, Genshin impact is a fantasy game that has no relation with real life
I wouldn't say white-washing just because it took inspiration from it. That's not exactly the character from folklore. It's a character that took inspiration from it. Many works in anime and other games have similar concepts, such as Fate's Gilgamesh and Ishtar characters. This is akin to being angry over Raiden being a woman when in real life, the Japanese god is depicted as a muscular male with an imposing face.
@@AidensOpinions isn’t that the entire point of the marvel multiverse 💀 infinite possibilites with characters separate from the base avengers. That is why characters like miles morales exist and are loved by the marvel community.
@@AidensOpinions I thank you for being reasonable and for understanding what I said. There’s a lot people in this community that like to say things just because they are upset at something trivial. Although I agree that there isn’t many dark-skinned characters in this game, I don’t agree with the things a lot of people are doing because of it. I just want to mention that every character who originates from the Sumeru Desert is usually darker-skinned. If Hoyo had spent more time developing more civilization in the desert, we could’ve seen more darker-skinned characters. However most of the desert expansion was done later and most of the archon quest was done in the rainforest due to that. Having the archon quest reside mainly in the rainforest caused more rainforest characters to be developed, who have lighter skin in general.
why people wanting a few more dark skineed characters bothers you so much? And before you talk about "this is a video game, theres real problems in real life" think that you do not move a finger to help any of the so called "real problems", the most u ever did in life is discuss about it online... then why be mad because people want to play with characters that they fell represent them?
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End of the day they don’t care what the non chinese players have to say. Pale skin has always been a symbol of beauty in China and they know any other skin tone won’t sell well.
Pale skin is also the standard of beauty in the USA. People just won't admit it openly.
@@exnecross3141the difference is while in China pale skin means you have some kind of an authority and chilling all day in a shade, tanned people do hard job in the fields under the sun. But in US it is mostly about racism 😅
Light/pale skin is attractive all over the world. The world belongs to yts.@@exnecross3141
@exnecross3141 In the US having a healthy tan means that you can afford vacations instead of working a 9 to five. But this mostly applies to white people.
I, a white girl with heterochromia, one of the rarest features should not be more represented in media then black/dark people like bruh
The difference is that your difference is seen as pretty while dark skin is seen as dirty and ugly in china. Its just racism and ppl are too cowardly to admit it.
damn, there's literally way more of "you" in every game I ever played than any kind of black people.
Except if we're talking about enemies/hostile NPCs. In that case black people show up a lot more
It's disgusting
But the people from the desert of sumeru are dark skinned 😅. I was also surprised that none of the new ones were darker. Is just what people sell. I would just love to play with someone like "ekko" from LoL in genshin
If you actually look at the people and characters from Sumeru they arent even really dark skinned. Only some NPCs come close to it but all the playable sumeru characters are either white or tan and thats all we get from hyv
All the so called dark skinned people you’re talking about are not playable.
@@asumi_channn961 literally cyno, dehya, Candace and sethos
I love how they all absolutely (suck)
@@TheLogotero all tanned, none black
"Calm down, son... It's just a drawing." - Bikini Bottom Police Officer
Honestly I don’t really care. People with DEI agendas ignore other cultural inappropriations so I can’t say I feel sorry for them.
Hoyo suck at representation because they have never prmoised us any accurate/faithful representation of any nation/culture/people.
XD They take inspiration form different cultures but they have never put emphasis on accurately portraying them (since Genshin's areas are an amalmagation of differnet cultures/mythologies/folklores)
Also I find it funny that no one threw a tantrum when Liyue/Inazuma came out, and none of the native characters, neither Inazumans, nor Liyuecharacters looked Asian. They had white skin, used the same models the Mondstadtian characters used, and had huge stylizied eyes. XD
If they didn;t put emphasis on 'accurately representing' their own people as far as appearances goes, then what were you thinking, what will happen in NAtlan? XD
I hate to tell you but if anything Sumeru shown os the fact that the actual player base don't give a shit abut this drama Nahida is the 5th highest sales banner and that is a wery clear massage from the actual players to Mihoyo "give us More Wiefu we dont care"
There are actual problems like hunger, poorness and terrorism, and all you do is complain about anime gacha fictional characters? really?
Genshin is not representing anything because is not America nor Africa its just Natlan, now if you wanna help with real life problems it would be nice.
finally someone with common sense here...thank you for pointing this out...we got so many problems in real life yet people are still arguing about virtual things that didn't even exist in the first place
So go help those people suffering?
Racism and colorism is actually a real life problem, try again !!
@@heartache5345 In a videogame? it ain't racism anyway 💀
Yall literally saying there is a "correct" skin color that's called racism coff coff.
Color does no represent neither a nation neither its people, thinking it does is way superficial.
En resumen ni siquiera saben lo que dicen porque solo siguen estereotipos y se toman personal a personajes ficticios que ya de por si hay disclaimer sobre eso en la gran mayoría de videojueogs, lo que reclaman ni siquiera les concierne.
I'm black and I agree with Elwey. And let's be honest Hoyo is never going to listen to these complaints and the game will continue stacking more dough because of it.
of course some bearded dude with kitty ears is talking about this fucking hell what has this world come to
It is literally just a game. I don't know why people are so mad when it doesn't even apply to real life.
People have the right to complain about a product? If a game is culturally appropriating cultures and doesnt pay the least amount of respect to them its well within peoples right to be mad.
People can complain if hoyoverse is using deities(Gods) from their culture and making them not what they are.
plus its getting so boring of hoyoverse to keep releasing the same paper white characters with either rat tail or split hair.
In Natlan we couldve gotten variety and uniqueness
A Game Is Art
@@imjustaguycalledsano
This is the official response from hoyoverse:
"Dear Traveler,
Thank you for your feedback.
Please be kindly reminded that Genshin Impact is a work of fiction and is not related to actual people, events, groups, or organizations.
We do really hope for your understanding.
•
介
Home
Kind regards,
Genshin Impact CS Team"
You are crying over fictional characters. You can be mad but that doesn’t make you any less stupid for crying over the skin tone of a fictional character.
@@crashphoenix6362 😂🤣 oh god that was a burn
If people upset about representation in a chinese fantasy gacha game them better to stop playing videos games and start represent themself in a real world.
Game is fictional. It is not based but inspired. It is art and art is a vision of artist.
If you still upset then make your own gacha game with as many colors as you want
Might as well have made the entire cast black because its just a fantasy game right. People are allowed to be upset
so being white is an art now huh? lol
When you say you are taking inspiration from a or a few cultures it is expected you would atleast somewhat represent them well as otherwise you are just using it as a marketing gimmick to attract customers, people wanting hoyo to do a good job after making statements about taking inspiration from cultures for their regions especially after how well they represented their home country with yunjin, this is one of the most normal and reasonable takes that the hoyo community has and you can also tell the artist are being stifled in their creativity looking at these skin color edits for the Natlan units
Nah bro im south american and you can shut your mouth off, nobody gives AF but northamericans.@@vantage_val1093
@@vantage_val1093 that is the point of inspiration, no? They took base line and build their own fantasy world upon that. It is not a historic game. It is their vision (and to be fair this vision is to sell characters to asian people who love pale skinned characters)
Yes people can be upset but my point is it is unproductive to be upset about skin color of a fictional characters in a chinese fantasy game.
And i dont remember when hoyo advertized their regions as "look guys! We made your home country! Come a check it out!"
What part of "a work of fiction" do people not understand
Fr! 😭
Right? And I haven't even played this game, but even I know what sells in China and what doesn't. Hoyo is just making business decisions nothing more, nothing less. Also it makes sense to listen to the Chinese players since that's the country this game blew up in.
Fiction can be racist stupid
What part of "I don't give a shit about representation since it has nothing to do with me" do people not understand ***********
@@joaovictorrodrigueskosugi4936 dude your late to the party the drama has been concluded...
Bro who cares, it is a fictional character. Cry me a river.
So ur against art being critiqued? U think we shouldn’t care abt the quality of the media we consume??
@@aravil2858 you are complaining about the skin tone of a fictional character because you don’t think it is dark enough to be representative of something from the real world when genshin isn’t even suppose to be realistic in the first place. What about that is constructive criticism towards art? Art would be writing, story, visuals, gameplay, character designs (and no that doesn’t mean only nitpicking their skin color), worldbuilding, anything that can actually be considered a creative part of game development, not the skin tone of a fiction character. There is no quality lost or gained from a character in media having lighter or dark skin and if you honestly think that quality is lost or gained based on skin color, you aren’t a critic, you are just racist.
@@aravil2858critisize netflix and disney first bcs they‘re blackwashing for years. U guys only cry when it turns against black people, u dont fight for equality, u fight for pro black
@@crashphoenix6362 Taking an african diety and not paying any form of homage to it is a valid point of critique. Genshin Impact is a product. And if the billion dollar company refuses to respect culture then people should be allowed to complain. Stop acting like this game is free from any faults. It isnt and if the voice actors are willing to come out about it then clearly there is something inherently wrong.
Furthermore, from a worldbuilding standpoint, Natlan characters should be tan or dark skinned if they have lived in a hot climate.
@@imjustaguycalledsano it’s fiction. Creators have the right to take as much or as little inspiration as they want from the source material. Nahida and candace are both based on real world deities/figures yet nobody cares because it is a fictional interpretation. It’s an interpretation, and more often than not it doesn’t matter how much is changed because it’s fiction. By your logic, something like zeus from the latest percy jackson tv series would be considered offensive because a black actor is playing a greek god, or having an asian actor play jesus would be offensive. But here’s the thing, it’s an interpretation. You don’t need to stick to anything. That’s the entire point of inspiration. All you are doing is gatekeeping. You obsessing over skin color in a video game does nothing except make you look even more racists than the people you are calling out.
First of all you said it's based off middle eastern and south east asian regions - India doesn't count in south east asia. It's south asian and their is no south east asian influence in sumeru. Secondly, there's a fair amount of quite fair people especially around north west India and since it does include middle eastern influences as well - they have quite fair people as well. And at the end of the day they could simply be showing all caucasian looking people in sumeru and it would be all fine as it's not supposed to represent some historical perspective. This is not like AC which is set in a real country, real era with real characters that needs to worry about accuracy of representation even amongst works of fiction.
So I’m a Indian with my family being from Gujarat and I know people can be pale skinned my camera and lighting doesn’t show it but I am pretty pale for my people but even I am darker skin tone than most if not the entire cast of sumeru and natlan which is saying a lot even when pale skinned people do exist in all cultures
@@vantage_val1093 True, pale skinned people do exist in different cultures but it's mostly due to genetic reasons that people developed more melanin to acclimatize with the environment and migratory patterns in the past that helped shape things. I don't think Genshin is going to present all that especially when it's a world out of many - for all we know it could be a Data World out of Honkai. With that said as long as they account for the current setting - like having darker characters for the desert region (which they've done, then it does make sense). Also, people from the southern parts of Rajasthan (which is not a desert), Punjab and Haryana have a fair amount of people with quite plain complexions.
I would thought we already knew this from sumeru.
fr 💀💀💀💀💀
Oooooh, so NOW it isn't "just a game, bro" anymore.
Like Raiden shogen very Japanese representative character every day im see Tokyo purple hair with purle eyes
Yall have brain worms.
first world country people will really complain about everything lol
Hey, listen up, Genshin Impact is just a game inspired by various cultures. They ain't racist just because they didn't create an all-black playable character cast. And seriously, Genshin impact is a fantasy game that has no relation with real life
I didnt really care until i realized they white washed a character straight from african folklore, thats wild 💀
I wouldn't say white-washing just because it took inspiration from it. That's not exactly the character from folklore. It's a character that took inspiration from it. Many works in anime and other games have similar concepts, such as Fate's Gilgamesh and Ishtar characters. This is akin to being angry over Raiden being a woman when in real life, the Japanese god is depicted as a muscular male with an imposing face.
@@crashphoenix6362 So I can make the avengers black as long as it is an InTeRpReTation?
@@jmr8464 Valid points.
@@AidensOpinions isn’t that the entire point of the marvel multiverse 💀 infinite possibilites with characters separate from the base avengers. That is why characters like miles morales exist and are loved by the marvel community.
@@AidensOpinions I thank you for being reasonable and for understanding what I said. There’s a lot people in this community that like to say things just because they are upset at something trivial. Although I agree that there isn’t many dark-skinned characters in this game, I don’t agree with the things a lot of people are doing because of it. I just want to mention that every character who originates from the Sumeru Desert is usually darker-skinned. If Hoyo had spent more time developing more civilization in the desert, we could’ve seen more darker-skinned characters. However most of the desert expansion was done later and most of the archon quest was done in the rainforest due to that. Having the archon quest reside mainly in the rainforest caused more rainforest characters to be developed, who have lighter skin in general.
no way people are still crying over this
why people wanting a few more dark skineed characters bothers you so much?
And before you talk about "this is a video game, theres real problems in real life" think that you do not move a finger to help any of the so called "real problems", the most u ever did in life is discuss about it online... then why be mad because people want to play with characters that they fell represent them?
White women > other
None of these people are real. Go touch some grass y’all
Literally who cares
A lot of people, hence the drama and amount of people boycotting
It's a videogame
Stop with this BS
No one cares
people who complain about this shit need to get a life
not everything is abt race or skin istg 😭😭
No, it's definitely 100% about both those things bro lol
@@dw3134 if you believe that go touch grass
@nathanmom1045 You're the one that needs to touch grass if you think race doesn't play a huge role in society, dude lol.
@@dw3134 no, you misundertsand. you people cry over fictional characters in a fictional universe.
@@dw3134 we have better things to do than bitch about something as useless as this 😭
God some of the comments are….yikes 😬
Cry louder
You’re the only one crying bruh
What is that game? Im curious
Last Epoch
We do not care, stop being annoying about a fictional region. Genshin is not real life
Just quit.
Representation sucks
ew, u take seriously about this? wth dude
they never forced you to play their game, indian.
:)