Since a lot of people have been telling me that the "Nameless Voice" is actually Constant Drachenfels, I've aptly changed the title. And if you haven't noticed, you can skip between characters using the TH-cam's chapter function.
Reminds me of how bouncers would deflect a drunk’s complaints. Pretend you’re listening and offer them to continue. Without you saying anything else, the other speaker has nothing to work on - no response to toy with. They usually either tire themselves out, or will get the message pretty early on that you don’t care. I’d wager it’s either a soldier thing, or something he picked up from guarding.
Kruber sounds like a strong mind; Sienna sounds like she's a mad woman, so she doesn't care; Bardin is fighting against it; Kerillian and Victor sounds like they feel the guilty.
Or maybe she's a wizard and knows weird demon voices when she hears them. No need to be mad for that to be the case - well, no more than human mages in Warhammer Fantasy generally get. If you have the Red Wind trying to tempt you into burning everything all the time and hasn't done it yet at her age, I'd imagine you build some resolve. Addict or not.
In the first game Kerillian told Saltzpyre "I met one like you before. *One of my kind, she* too was convinced that she did holy work, and measured her success in blood" It all makes sense now.
@@oniemployee3437 She could have been talking about her friend Sofia, the one she saved from the pyre, she was a chaotic worshipmer after all, and we all know what Khorne wants you to do
I kind of like that the voice tries to weaken the resolve of each character by taunting them about their past, with the exception of Kruber. Kruber's guilt is so boiled into his personality and character that he's built up a thick skin about it, forcing the voice to try to sway him in a different way ala "money and power". Just kinda interesting that the character with the most willpower is literally the average joe.
At least when compared to the others he carries a lot less with him in the first place. As an other comment already put it: Bardin was exiled for not being good enough and thus loosing an important battle, which did cost the life of many of his family, including his own son. Saltzpyre was blindly following orders of evil authorities, which made him kill an innocent young girl. Sienna is gifted yet so addicted to the flame, that she lets it run loose and killed her mentor in his sleep just because she could. And finally, Kerillian saboutaged Uberstreik by leading or at least being part of the force to kill the ones protecting it. Kruber is a Mercenary. He kills for coins. That's what he is on the inside and that's what he is on the outside. The only thing daunting him is that he himself believes he left that behind by becomming part of the Uberstreik 5, but isn't sure if be can live up to that expectation he put up for himself. Daunting, but not something he would be condemned for.
@@flemlius3507 Well you're also forgetting that he has survivors guilt from basically everything he's ever done. The biggest example is when a necromancer whipped out his entire squad and the only reason he survived is because one of his loyal men pushed him out of the necromancers miasma. There's even an entire conversation between Sienna and him where she asks him why does he cling to his fear and prejudice of magic, fire and necromancy are completely different magics after all. He responds in a really somber tone "I'm really not trying to Wizzard." Kruber's faking that he doesn't care what the voice is saying, it's all an act.
The worst (or perhaps best) part about this is that they can't hear what the voice is saying to each other. So the audience knows Kerillian sabotaged Ubersreik or that Sienna killed her mentor or that Saltzpyre killed an innocent girl thinking she was a vampire but they don't know those things about each other. Its like one of those "reality" shows where you are waiting for all the secrets to come out but you know its absolutely going to destroy your favorite characters when they do. Top tier writing and level design for these Drachenfels maps.
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi She knowingly killed a convoy of soldiers that would have bolstered the city against the skaven. Thus leaving the defenses undermanned when the rats arrived.
Craig Bledsoe She accidentally saw a vision that said “Ubersreik would play into the downfall of Athel Loren”. So she interpreted that as “the city needs to die”. So she sabotaged the defenses and assumed something would wipe it off the map. That something turned out to be clan Pestilence who, if victorious, posed a greater threat to Athel Loren than anything else that could have come out of that city. Thus she had the blood of hundreds of innocents on her hands AND was banished by her people. A lot of conjecture and filling in the blanks to get this, but it’s the clearest picture I could come up with.
he very likely also had a bad childhood wich his "resolute father" implies. that coupled with an early indoctrination makes him a pretty tragic and dangerous man
@@allanredhill8682 well that, and being a witch hunter has made him kill innocents due to authority's orders, and since his blind faith in authority, salt killed people that were innocent and at times just children. this coupled with the fact salt isn't the type of witch hunter to use the term "acceptable losses" and leave some flowers at the funeral, it weighs heavy on him saltspyre is a zealot for sure but has a conscience behind it
I love that voiceline becomes it preys on a part of victor that he never wavers on when around others, that being his doubt. He always tried to reach sigmar in one way or another and was only able to finally achieve that goal when he became a warrior priest, before that he was left to fend off against the idea that maybe sigmar had abandoned him or was gone from this world. Which would be an absolutely terrifying resolution for a man as faithful as Saltzpyre.
I really hope we get something like this in Darktide. Vermintide is an incredible example of humanizing the world of Warhammer through the interactions between characters, and I can’t wait to see what the devs do with 40K characters.
@@raven75257 It's pretty unfortunate really. Having a weirdly mismatched penal squad walk over the bodies of their comrades that failed before them and start filling the halls with the corpses of their foes in spite of the efforts of the enemies and their own masters. That sorta stupid epic fun is what I love. Their attempt at personal characters is nice but it only made the game less personal not more
Kruber, the hero whom blames himself for the deaths of others and curses his lack of strength Bardin, the exile whom wasn't fast or strong enough and hides his pain in optimism Kerillian, the cold-hearted elf whom weakened Ubersreik for Clan Fester Saltzpyre, the zealot whom harbors much guilt for actions done in ignorance Sienna, the pyromaniac whom is too addicted to her own power, and burns others for it The one that must harbor the greatest fear of being discovered is Kerillian... She knows she's at fault for all of this. If it wasn't for her, Ubersreik might've been able to defend itself... Kruber is from Ubersreik, and that's the only person she's relatively close to, beyond Sienna. She fears that the guilt will crush her, and she fears that telling the truth would make her lose the only 'friends' she has left. She pushes them away, because of this fear. So it'll be 'easier' to leave when the time comes... It won't be, and she knows it...
Kruber be like: Nurgloth: "Whats your blood price for the others, Kruber?" Kruber: "Uhmmm.... about 3 sacks of gold and a keg of Bugmans? Can you pay that?" Nurgloth: "I know you've thou- wait what? Uh... no, Im broke rn" Kruber: "Go annoy someone else then."
I absolutely adore Kerillian and Saltzpyre. Despite appearing hard and cold, they are actually pure of heart. Their feelings of guilt over the deaths of innocents trouble them much more than others which really shows their true character.
That's because he's been feeling guilty the entire time, theres nothing the Daemon could taunt him with that he hasn't already done to himself, everyone else comes back feeling like shit because of it but it was just another day in Kruber's head for him.
The writing in this game is natural characterization at its finest. Kruber already lives with his failures haunting him so he takes it on the chin and keeps pushing forward like he does with everything else. Bardin, kerillian and Victor are less open people and hide their troubled pasts by keeping all their worries in their own minds which fails them when the enemy is in there too so they cave in and plead for mercy. Sienna is just too old to give a shit anymore and completely accepts her mistakes, shes lived her life and the world is ending so she might as well set things on fire while shes still got one burning
it does help that Kruber legitimately hasnt done anything wrong, even if he does feel some guilt. Kerilian, Sienna, and Victor actually have alot to regret. Then Bardin honestly hasnt done anything wrong either, but he still doesnt want to reveal why he is exiled.
@@lenkagamine4145 My understanding of Bardins situation is that he's in self-exile. He blames himself for falling to a Gutter Runner and being unable to warn his Hold, and can't bring himself to stay with family or friends that have been hurt as a result of his failure. There may not be a single dwarf that actually blames him, but he assumes they do and pre-emptively left to "search".
Kerillian and Victor nearly crying hurt me a little. Kruber and Bardin being badasses flat out ignoring the whispers made me happy. And of course Sieena not giving a single Fuck made me laugh.
It’s a shame I have to watch vids like this to see the awesome dialogue in V2 Most of the time it’s just BY SIGMAR BY THE HAMMER A GLOBADIER LUMBERFOOTS MY DARLINGS
@@victuz apparently ULTs reset a 'timer' on when dialogue is spoken. so if no body ULT's over x amount of time, dialogues will play, but one someone ULT's then the timer resets. Which kinda sucks, since ppl ULT all the time.
MAYFLIES MAYFLIES MAYFLIES MAYFLIES CHILDREN YOU CALL THESE ARROWS? RADIANCE LUMBAHFOOT GLACIT MAYFLIES LUMBAHFOOTS I sure wish they did actually release the mute kerillian dlc frankly, her constant bantering made it impossible to hear alot of the unique dialogue ingame
@@dagoth-ursbeekeeper9119 with what they deal with, too much self-reflection will render them useless. Saltzpyre’s a rare witch hunter in that not only can he understand his moral failings but is strong enough to keep going and make up for it as best he can.
Nah, "Blah blah blah. No one cares." is a too well constructed comeback. The most brutal is Kruber's "and ?". The voice tried his hardest to find weak spots and all, and the dude it is tormenting just respond "and ? I don't see your point". It means that you have failed as a daemon/whatever that may be.
My favourite part is that all the things the demon says are true (with the exception of maybe Bardin) It’s not just exaggerated guilt tripping from some asshole demon It’s their real guilt manifesting Even the heroes aren’t heroes How could they be in such a cruel world
@@victuz around and around, as said, trapped in the wind of heavens by the ruinous powers to my memory. He shows up at the end of the End Times and battles Archaon
Well, except Kruber. I mean, voice is just trying to peeve him with prospects of pawning his companions for thirty silver coins, but no sane man would do that.
@@fr-joey764 And Sienna's is more dismissal. She's not denying it, but she's also not accepting anything. She's try to play it off as if the things she's done don't matter anymore.
Absolutely disagree, kruber has accepted it cause he is the least ashamed of the 5 since he has no's real reason to, he is definitely acceptance, Sienna sounds even angrier in her answers so I would swap the two
Man do i love Bardin's character design so much and him talking and singing just adds joy to the whole group, finding out about his son only made me more depressed about his past, as i already knew he was exiled but didn't know why. Really sad to see this happen to a person like him, so kind and warm to everyone, especially to Sienna where in one of the dialogues she says that she wont be accepted by anyone but Bardin says "To some of us dawi, to some of us."
@@armintor2826 I don't think that's the case, as far as I know. Dwarven biology is inherently resistant to magic (by design), to the extent that the Chaos Dwarf Sorcerers and Daemonsmiths, who do practise magic, find themselves gradually turning to stone.
@@armintor2826 Dwarfs in warhammer can not become wizards, they can become runepriests which is different. Only Chaos Dwarfs can use magic and it kills them over time.
@@victuz Most elves, specially Asrai and Druchii view the other races of order (save maybe the lizardmen) as less than. It doesn´t surprise me much that she would partake in the massacre of humans soldiers. Remember that line in Athel Yen Lui when Bardin asks her if the elven gods would help them and she states that they would just as gladly kill a dwarf as a Skaven? I think that encompasses well the view of the elven races on all others, even if from time to time they lend a hand to other forces of order.
@@snowythesnowball182 It's a little more complex than that, specifically with regards to the Elves of Ulthuan. Teclis represents a large faction of elves that support mankind and more international efforts against Chaos.
@@eldradulthran6482 Well, yeah. But that´s because of a plan to use the younger races to fight the common enemy, not because he wants to be friend. I know we are not supposed to talk about End Times, but Teclis steals the white flame of Ulric to try and revive Tyrion condemming Middenheim, the greatest human city fortress to fall, and shortly after dies Valen, the avatar of Sigmar. There´s also Imrik who crusades throught the world, but hated that he was saved by the Bretonnian King at some point, because being helped by humans made him feel icky or something.
@@snowythesnowball182 There is definitely a sense of superiority, but Teclis did actually view humanity with a level of respect, and believed he was in the right in taking the flame of Middenheim, though his plan ended up failing.
In game these lines are so great. Especially when it happens to a teammate and all you hear is the reply from your teammate and wonder what the daemon was sayin
@@klyk69 the way they react to what he says shows that their is some air of truth to it. Like how the elf counts her kills and their is dialogue where saltz asks why she does that. And also dialogue where she talks about having to make up for something.
Oh they all know they exist. Kerillian is the most afraid because she has the most to lose if either the truth comes to light and how that guilt torments her. She killed reinforcements that may have saved Ubersreik, including Kruger’s family. It’s because of her that practically everyone in Ubersreik, hundreds, possibly thousands of people died because she preemptively killed a military convoy of people who are ostensibly her allies. Everyone knows Sienna is dangerous but they trust her to keep control. Even so they are all aware of the strain she faces and are wary enough of the possibility. Everyone is aware of Saltzpyre’s profession and what he’s likely done, the worst that comes is that they know he’s failed before. Not so terrible since they don’t really respect his authority anyway. Bardin’s personal grief is certainly a sore spot for him but it wouldn’t alienate him from them. While he’s certainly upset when they pry into his affairs, his personal shame and grief isn’t something that would make him turn on them or vice versa. And Kruber doesn’t really have anything to hide that he isn’t open about already.
Its pretty amazing how the voice undermines each character not just personally but as a group. Picking at their personal weakness while many times using it to create mistrust.
Nameless Voice to me when playing Saltz: *S K A G G E N D O R F B O I I I* Me who doesn't know anything about the lore: I DON'T CARE, YOUR WORDS ARE HERESY, YOU SHALL PERISH.
Constant Drachenfels is such a strange character, he's probably one of the oldest wizards in the WHF world considering he's so old that he remembers the coming of the Old Ones
I wish his lore could have been refined some more for the later editions. I mean I would like to know how he was even able to learn necromancy, because I dont think he has any early connections with Nagash that we know of. Also shouldnt he be much older than Nagash too if what you say is true? That means he would have been able to increase his lifespan, even before any human civilization? I cant really imagine all that being true at the same time, at least if looking to newer lore and his relevance in it.
what's interesting is Saltz (muh boi) had his eye plucked out by a grey seer. the only grey seers i know of in WHO Fantasy are the Horned Rat's Grey Seers. So saltz run-in with the skaven in the mines (where he also killed the innocent girl whom he thought was a vamp) involved way, way more than we think it does. more that just losing an eye and killing a girl
That's what set me off, too. Was he cooperating with the skaven then? At least temporary? What about the Grey Seer in WH Vermintide 1, though? Wasn't that one human?
@@Mayhzon no the grey seer in VT 1 was Skaven. He wasn't co-operating. He went in to shut down a Baron's mine which was producing warpstone. The Baron was selling it to both vampires and a skaven grey seer. Hence Saltz coming in and fucking shit up. It does say on Saltzs' wiki that he's basically barred from being promoted in the ranks of witch hunter because he accepts heretical means to get to his goal. Some shit happened. Dunno wtf it is but some shit 😂
@@killer900rocks I mean the Grey Wizard in that one magical level with the amazing corridors and the teleportation gate. That one was human right? Thanks for the clarification on his backstory, though.
@@Mayhzon and there's where words come into effect. Grey *Seer* is for Skaven Grey *Wizard* is human. Btw the Grey Wizard you were referring to was I think Christoph Engil or smth like that
Should they find out about Kerillian sabotaging and dooming Ubersreik, it would be hell. Kruber will almost instantly try to kill her-his family died directly because of clan fester, Bardin will probably help Kruber as they are buddies and Bardin knows a thing or two about losing family and grief, Saltzpyre will probably understand but still try to kill her as it is his job to destroy threats to the Empire. Th only one who may defend her is Sienna, but who knows how she will react.
You have no idea how heavy his guilt were. But different from the rest of the team, most people know that he was the only survivor of his band before Vermintide. That's why you don't feel like he's harboring guilt. Like he said "And?" he soaked it. Just like Sienna
@@mahendrakrisnamurti9599 On the flipside, Kruber did spilled the fact that he raided and pillaged places such as Parravon, while no one knew Sienna essentially helped her sister, a dangerous necromancer, escape.
I remember finishing chaos wastes run with my friend, and randomly hearing one of this lines in the Keep. Exactly at the moment my buddy went AFK to grab something to eat. I thought I have gone mad, but it's good to know that these lines exist in-game.
This would make a great series or movie when all of the characters open up to one another about their past. I wonder how it’ll play out since Kerillian had the biggest fuck ups out of all of them Saltzpyre would want to bring her to justice, Kruber would be furious since he lost a lot of men from the skaven
Ultimately, she was following a vision that appeared to be true but was ultimately flawed and she is paying the price of her failure, first by being exiled by her people for it and fighting to make it right, so Kruber may understand, humans have given orders to do things that were blatantly wrong, so it's not like they're not without faults, he would condemn her for it or figure that extra troops wouldn't have made a lick of a difference, but he would not kill her, it's not his call to make. Bardin would be much like Kruber I reckon, his own failures led to a lot of great loss and is paying the price for it just as well himself, granted it was his own people but in his mind that's probably worse. Sienna would very much be upset about it, but would likely figure that Kerrilian only meant to do right by her people and overstepped her boundaries, it's not like that she's perfect herself considering that her own obsession with fire has caused a lot of grief, maybe not a whole town but it certainly could happen given time, hell she even fancies the idea so she's hardly better. And likely say that the past is done, nothing can't be changed, can only move forward. and Saltzpyre, he would have to be held back from killing her. But I think it would depend on the career, assuming that any of the carrers are canon, Witch Hunter and Zealot would want to kill her outright for that crime. Bounty Hunter just as well but he would likely realize that the reason she is fighting is to make it right, so probably act like he is doing with Sienna, her jailor who grants her a longer leash to fight against the common enemy. Her penance to fight until there's no Skaven left or die doing so. (I believe that considering the backstory that comes with Bounty Hunter and seeing that his blind faith to the Order's hierarchy was misplaced, much like like how Kerrilian placed blind faith in her vision, same thing, different circumstances, the Order could easily order a whole town to be put to the flame on mere suspicion of heresy after all.)
@@BringDHouseDown She tricked them into attacking that convoy on a false pretense. She didn't tell them the true reason behind why they attacked it, which is why when those above her found out she was singled out and exiled as a result. It was her decision to do it and drag others into helping her.
I'm pretty sure kruber's parents were killed in ubersriek by skaven, beacuse kerillian lead a team to kill the only people that could have stopped it.. Furious might be an understatement
Sounds like Saltzspyre and Kerillian are being eaten alive by their own guilt. Kind of humanising really. That the immortal elf and the ruthless witch hunter are haunted by dark guilt over innocence.
Oh... oh shit. So that's what the bridge battle Kerillian boasts about was. She killed the Empire soldiers sent to defend Ubersrike. This is bad... this is really-really bad. Better hope Saltzpyre never figures it out.
hes really not. he has a lot of guilt but he lived his life a unscrupulous mercenary. And while he had compassion for the people he fought alongside with its pretty clear and implied that he lend his sword to more...darker deeds if the coin was right....
This is why elves are not the defenders of the world, a high elf noble incited assault from the asrai on his home by killing ariel's sister, intentional or no, ariel, the queen of athel loren and representation of life's purity, EMBRACED the dark power of magic and the corruption it brought. Though they won't admit it, every step the druchii take is in the name of chaos, every sacrifice, every scream of pain, slaanesh drinks it all in. No matter who they are, they have all misread the signs of their visions and portents, hastening the end by trying to stop.
wow. the ubersreik five are all sad, borken people. each has a past they regret and they each more or less accepted that thier road has reached it´s end. Kerillian seeks to settle a debt which she will never consider paid, Bardin quests for a goal he knows to be unattainable, Victor decends into obsessing over skaven to avoid thinking about the fact that his faith failed him and he is doubting and both Sienna and Markus have just sort of resigned themselves to keep going on with no purpose or goal in mind. kruber doesn´t even deny these accusations or try to make excuses (I.e. "It wasn´t so siple" "that wasn´t my fault") he just goes "yes and?" It´s really frightening to see him discociate like that.
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Lol, that line about a bridge and "two regiments disappearing without a trace" got explained at last. So Kerillian really was there and killed humans because ahe believed that they would endanger her forest. And she felt proud for herself doing that.
Nope, different events, hogger's bridge is old news before the vermin apocalypse and kerillian is happy about that, this is a convoy is eating away heavily at her so much drachenfels is taunting her with it to great effect.
Bardin: 'Depressed Dwarf Noises' Kerillian: Literal mind break fetish from -Japan- Nippon Victor: HOLY SIGMAR BLESS THIS RAVAGED FAITH Sienna: "HAHA JOKES ON YOU I AM ALREADY CRAZY" Chad Kruber: "Hey little voice, go annoy someone else."
He is without a body and has lost his memories, if we go by how Nagash finds him in the End Times. He clearly has bigger problems than a bunch of ratmen and some shirtless dudes taking his old magic baubles. Still a dick though, as can be seen in this video.
No, hogger's bridge is an event in the pass as victor clearly knows about it second hand as if it's been documented and speculated about and kerillian is joyous about that event. Here, the sabotage of the military convoy is devastating to her, so much so that drachenfels is using it againist her. So no, she's not having an emotional 180 about the same event just because someone else is talking about it.
All I hear is kruber being piss off, bardin being stubborn and sayin your a liar and don't exist ,kerillian being crushed by guilt ,saltz being terrified angry and broken, sienna just being annoyed and not carring
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Since a lot of people have been telling me that the "Nameless Voice" is actually Constant Drachenfels, I've aptly changed the title.
And if you haven't noticed, you can skip between characters using the TH-cam's chapter function.
Welp i guess they were fucking wrong then, now that it's revealed it's actually Be'Lakor
@@omnissiah7859 true
@@omnissiah7859 I always wondered if maybe that was an error or something. Be'lakor sounds VERY different in the Chaos Wastes lmao
@@concord3230 i dont think they planned it to be Be'Lakor but changed it to be him after making plans to include him in the Chaos Wastes
@@omnissiah7859 to be fair, Belakor’s more than powerful enough to make his voice seem like Off Brand Dracula’s
Demon met his match with Kruber -
Demon - says some things to despair Kruber
Kruber - I'm already depressed, you have no power here.
Kruber was like - meh and? Proper soldier
"Pain and I are old friends"
Kruber: ONLY I GET THE RIGHT TO DESTROY MY SELF ESTEEM. DEMONS NOT INCLUDED.
Gotta wonder how much of it really is just an act. Maybe he's a master at hiding the pain?
Reminds me of how bouncers would deflect a drunk’s complaints. Pretend you’re listening and offer them to continue. Without you saying anything else, the other speaker has nothing to work on - no response to toy with. They usually either tire themselves out, or will get the message pretty early on that you don’t care. I’d wager it’s either a soldier thing, or something he picked up from guarding.
Kruber sounds like a strong mind;
Sienna sounds like she's a mad woman, so she doesn't care;
Bardin is fighting against it;
Kerillian and Victor sounds like they feel the guilty.
I believe Sienna does care.
I dunno, Sienna sounds like a seasoned schyzophrenic, it's like she knows what voices to ignore.
@@bolikde9389 the way I see it, Sienna does care, but she won't allow some entity to use it against her.
Or maybe she's a wizard and knows weird demon voices when she hears them. No need to be mad for that to be the case - well, no more than human mages in Warhammer Fantasy generally get.
If you have the Red Wind trying to tempt you into burning everything all the time and hasn't done it yet at her age, I'd imagine you build some resolve. Addict or not.
Bardin sounds more in denial than anything else.
Demon: *YOU ARE A CRACKHEAD MURDERER ARSONIST*
Sienna: "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
Kinda hard to get to someone with the same word they are used to hearing.
Daemon*
It's not a Daemon, it's Drachenfels
@@viktord2025 Drachenfels is an amnesiac crackhead ghost on the other side of the continent right now. If it's not a daemon, it's the castle itself.
_imnotlisteniiiiing_
In the first game Kerillian told Saltzpyre
"I met one like you before. *One of my kind, she* too was convinced that she did holy work, and measured her success in blood"
It all makes sense now.
omg youre right :o
when put into words like that it's quite clear.
She's referencing herself.
How painful it is, to realize that what you tried to stop is exactly what you caused.
Guide THAT WOOD ELVES.
@@oniemployee3437 She could have been talking about her friend Sofia, the one she saved from the pyre, she was a chaotic worshipmer after all, and we all know what Khorne wants you to do
@@Sir_Bucket That’s Sienna. He’s talking about Kerillian
I kind of like that the voice tries to weaken the resolve of each character by taunting them about their past, with the exception of Kruber. Kruber's guilt is so boiled into his personality and character that he's built up a thick skin about it, forcing the voice to try to sway him in a different way ala "money and power".
Just kinda interesting that the character with the most willpower is literally the average joe.
At least when compared to the others he carries a lot less with him in the first place. As an other comment already put it:
Bardin was exiled for not being good enough and thus loosing an important battle, which did cost the life of many of his family, including his own son.
Saltzpyre was blindly following orders of evil authorities, which made him kill an innocent young girl.
Sienna is gifted yet so addicted to the flame, that she lets it run loose and killed her mentor in his sleep just because she could.
And finally, Kerillian saboutaged Uberstreik by leading or at least being part of the force to kill the ones protecting it.
Kruber is a Mercenary. He kills for coins. That's what he is on the inside and that's what he is on the outside. The only thing daunting him is that he himself believes he left that behind by becomming part of the Uberstreik 5, but isn't sure if be can live up to that expectation he put up for himself. Daunting, but not something he would be condemned for.
That's why he was always my favorite
@@flemlius3507 Well you're also forgetting that he has survivors guilt from basically everything he's ever done. The biggest example is when a necromancer whipped out his entire squad and the only reason he survived is because one of his loyal men pushed him out of the necromancers miasma. There's even an entire conversation between Sienna and him where she asks him why does he cling to his fear and prejudice of magic, fire and necromancy are completely different magics after all. He responds in a really somber tone "I'm really not trying to Wizzard." Kruber's faking that he doesn't care what the voice is saying, it's all an act.
A 9 to 5 does that to ya
Yeah. Also the voice doesn't really have any real card to play against him (unlike with the others)
Markus: "Go annoy someone else."
The other 4 behind him: *PANIK*
Except Sienna
3 behind
This daemon is the reason Bardin built a gatling gun
"What you saying daemon? Can't hear you over the sound of this dakka!"
I would too
its not a demon its drachenfels himself
And the reason Marcus became a Grail Knight
@@roryb-c7289 How the f*ck is Drachenfels still alive?
Learning about Bardin's son hit me harder than a chaos warrior when I heard it ingame.
We know what made him take the slayer oath now so hey that’s something :(
God that hurts me too
I hit chaos warrior even harder with a shade’s critical strike headshot.
That hit me too
**Did you murmur in your sleep last night, Bardin? Who's Mordin?**
Now it packs a punch... 😢
The worst (or perhaps best) part about this is that they can't hear what the voice is saying to each other. So the audience knows Kerillian sabotaged Ubersreik or that Sienna killed her mentor or that Saltzpyre killed an innocent girl thinking she was a vampire but they don't know those things about each other. Its like one of those "reality" shows where you are waiting for all the secrets to come out but you know its absolutely going to destroy your favorite characters when they do. Top tier writing and level design for these Drachenfels maps.
Just like Hitchcock used to say - the audience knows there's a bomb under that table, it KNOWS it will explode... but the characters don't.
How did Kerillian sabotaged Ubersreik?
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi She knowingly killed a convoy of soldiers that would have bolstered the city against the skaven. Thus leaving the defenses undermanned when the rats arrived.
Craig Bledsoe She accidentally saw a vision that said “Ubersreik would play into the downfall of Athel Loren”. So she interpreted that as “the city needs to die”. So she sabotaged the defenses and assumed something would wipe it off the map. That something turned out to be clan Pestilence who, if victorious, posed a greater threat to Athel Loren than anything else that could have come out of that city. Thus she had the blood of hundreds of innocents on her hands AND was banished by her people.
A lot of conjecture and filling in the blanks to get this, but it’s the clearest picture I could come up with.
@@H240909
Is there any source or is it really just up to speculation?
Despite how resolute Satlz is on the surface these taunts cut the deepest for him, man has a lot of guilt
he very likely also had a bad childhood wich his "resolute father" implies. that coupled with an early indoctrination makes him a pretty tragic and dangerous man
@@allanredhill8682 well that, and being a witch hunter has made him kill innocents due to authority's orders, and since his blind faith in authority, salt killed people that were innocent and at times just children.
this coupled with the fact salt isn't the type of witch hunter to use the term "acceptable losses" and leave some flowers at the funeral, it weighs heavy on him
saltspyre is a zealot for sure but has a conscience behind it
The voice actor did an amazing job
Meanwhile krubas like: fuck off!!!!
A proof the man still has a soul, despite how cruel he has to be with his employ
"Sigmar is dead, little Victor"
The wind of Azyr: *ominous rumbling*
@John Calder
Would play Drachenfelsvania
I love that voiceline becomes it preys on a part of victor that he never wavers on when around others, that being his doubt. He always tried to reach sigmar in one way or another and was only able to finally achieve that goal when he became a warrior priest, before that he was left to fend off against the idea that maybe sigmar had abandoned him or was gone from this world. Which would be an absolutely terrifying resolution for a man as faithful as Saltzpyre.
I love that the demon insists on trying to break Kruber and he just doesn't give a shit.
"Yeah I know all this, why you telling me again? Go bother the elf or something pal, I'm busy."
Can't break what's already been broken before. Kruber is well aware of that. The Daemon is not, the bloody fool!
Can't corrupt what's already dead on the inside
The demon then tries to bribe him lol XD
Hearing saltzpyre sound scared and upset hit me emotionally in a way i wasent expecting :S
Right?
Blessed Sigmar, shelter me ;c
Watching a bulwark of faith shaken to its core is def disturbing
@@Oblong-Orange Discovering one of the protagonists is responsible for Ubersreik downfall is even more.
It hurts that he almost sounds like he about to let the dam break open
Hearing Victor say "I am deaf to your accusations" hits hard; he sounds like he's close to tears.
I really hope we get something like this in Darktide. Vermintide is an incredible example of humanizing the world of Warhammer through the interactions between characters, and I can’t wait to see what the devs do with 40K characters.
Play a psyker trust me you'll have a good time
@@raymonddelicana7145 "Cam on Spark'ead! No Fight, no rations."
Darktide will never reach this height, sadly. Custom character are simply unable to grant that by their nature
@@raven75257 It's pretty unfortunate really. Having a weirdly mismatched penal squad walk over the bodies of their comrades that failed before them and start filling the halls with the corpses of their foes in spite of the efforts of the enemies and their own masters.
That sorta stupid epic fun is what I love.
Their attempt at personal characters is nice but it only made the game less personal not more
Aaaaand we didnt
Kruber, the hero whom blames himself for the deaths of others and curses his lack of strength
Bardin, the exile whom wasn't fast or strong enough and hides his pain in optimism
Kerillian, the cold-hearted elf whom weakened Ubersreik for Clan Fester
Saltzpyre, the zealot whom harbors much guilt for actions done in ignorance
Sienna, the pyromaniac whom is too addicted to her own power, and burns others for it
The one that must harbor the greatest fear of being discovered is Kerillian... She knows she's at fault for all of this. If it wasn't for her, Ubersreik might've been able to defend itself... Kruber is from Ubersreik, and that's the only person she's relatively close to, beyond Sienna. She fears that the guilt will crush her, and she fears that telling the truth would make her lose the only 'friends' she has left. She pushes them away, because of this fear. So it'll be 'easier' to leave when the time comes... It won't be, and she knows it...
Kruber is from Ostland, Ubersreik in is Reiksland.
@@Plop1482 Then why does he, in the first game, mention having a family farm nearby?
@@MrJinglejanglejingle www.vermintide.com/news/2018/12/7/dev-blog-markus-kruber
Officially from Ostland.
@@MrJinglejanglejingle it's either a minor mistake, or his parents moved to there sometime during his army days.
@@IamaPERSON Seeing as it was mentioned several times, they likely moved there early in his army life.
Kruber be like:
Nurgloth: "Whats your blood price for the others, Kruber?"
Kruber: "Uhmmm.... about 3 sacks of gold and a keg of Bugmans? Can you pay that?"
Nurgloth: "I know you've thou- wait what? Uh... no, Im broke rn"
Kruber: "Go annoy someone else then."
That's a funny joke though it's probably Constant Drachenfels speaking to them
The keg is Kerillian's price
"Don't ask the blood price for my friends if you ain't prepared to pay out the nose."
@@suleymanbabak1973
Turns out it’s Be’lakor.
I absolutely adore Kerillian and Saltzpyre. Despite appearing hard and cold, they are actually pure of heart. Their feelings of guilt over the deaths of innocents trouble them much more than others which really shows their true character.
Interestingly after drakenfel lohner comments only Kruber isn't shaken by the ordeal
That's because he's been feeling guilty the entire time, theres nothing the Daemon could taunt him with that he hasn't already done to himself, everyone else comes back feeling like shit because of it but it was just another day in Kruber's head for him.
Is that line somewhere on TH-cam? Haven't heard it myself and am pretty curious
The writing in this game is natural characterization at its finest. Kruber already lives with his failures haunting him so he takes it on the chin and keeps pushing forward like he does with everything else. Bardin, kerillian and Victor are less open people and hide their troubled pasts by keeping all their worries in their own minds which fails them when the enemy is in there too so they cave in and plead for mercy. Sienna is just too old to give a shit anymore and completely accepts her mistakes, shes lived her life and the world is ending so she might as well set things on fire while shes still got one burning
it does help that Kruber legitimately hasnt done anything wrong, even if he does feel some guilt. Kerilian, Sienna, and Victor actually have alot to regret.
Then Bardin honestly hasnt done anything wrong either, but he still doesnt want to reveal why he is exiled.
@@lenkagamine4145 My understanding of Bardins situation is that he's in self-exile. He blames himself for falling to a Gutter Runner and being unable to warn his Hold, and can't bring himself to stay with family or friends that have been hurt as a result of his failure. There may not be a single dwarf that actually blames him, but he assumes they do and pre-emptively left to "search".
Kerillian and Victor nearly crying hurt me a little.
Kruber and Bardin being badasses flat out ignoring the whispers made me happy.
And of course Sieena not giving a single Fuck made me laugh.
It’s a shame I have to watch vids like this to see the awesome dialogue in V2
Most of the time it’s just BY SIGMAR BY THE HAMMER A GLOBADIER LUMBERFOOTS MY DARLINGS
Yeah, I wish the game made things like this more clear to the average player.
@@victuz apparently ULTs reset a 'timer' on when dialogue is spoken. so if no body ULT's over x amount of time, dialogues will play, but one someone ULT's then the timer resets. Which kinda sucks, since ppl ULT all the time.
@@yourcutedarkoverlord *laughs in solo*
MAYFLIES MAYFLIES MAYFLIES MAYFLIES CHILDREN YOU CALL THESE ARROWS? RADIANCE LUMBAHFOOT GLACIT MAYFLIES LUMBAHFOOTS
I sure wish they did actually release the mute kerillian dlc frankly, her constant bantering made it impossible to hear alot of the unique dialogue ingame
@@jagi6170lol
I always laugh at Kruber's response. Every time the demon tries to bring up some insecurity or guilt to him he says the equivalent of "Ok, and?"
Never expected Saltzpyre to be so self aware of what he's done.
Its very unlike most Witch Hunters and Inquisitors to be self-reflective.
Victor isn't a monster he's just a man trying to do something with the hand he's been given
@@joshfrew3628I've got two hands and they keep touching my dick
@@dagoth-ursbeekeeper9119 with what they deal with, too much self-reflection will render them useless. Saltzpyre’s a rare witch hunter in that not only can he understand his moral failings but is strong enough to keep going and make up for it as best he can.
@@Scatmansethsigmar's weakest warrior
Drachenfels: *mentally attacks Kerillian*
Me: I sleep
Drachenfels: *goes after Bardin*
Me: ALRIGHT, PAL, YOU CROSSED THE LINE
“Blah, blah, blah. No one cares.” Best comeback against a demon. Just telling him you don’t give a damn what he says,
Nah, "Blah blah blah. No one cares." is a too well constructed comeback.
The most brutal is Kruber's "and ?". The voice tried his hardest to find weak spots and all, and the dude it is tormenting just respond "and ? I don't see your point". It means that you have failed as a daemon/whatever that may be.
A military convoy was bound for Ubersreik? ...WAIT! It can't be those regiments that disappeared at Hoggar's Bridge!?
No i believe these are different events
@@EmotionalSuffering yeah they are
Elf? ELF!??
@punch wong I recall two regiments from Nuln disappearing there. I don't think the bridge was mentioned being around Nuln.
@punch wong The regiments from Nuln were inbound for Ubersreik
My favourite part is that all the things the demon says are true (with the exception of maybe Bardin)
It’s not just exaggerated guilt tripping from some asshole demon
It’s their real guilt manifesting
Even the heroes aren’t heroes
How could they be in such a cruel world
He does lie about one thing, even if he doesn't know it.
Sigmar being dead. He isn't, he is trapped in Azyr.
@@andreasottohansen7338 Really? Sigmar is really around after Karl Franz coronation?
@@victuz around and around, as said, trapped in the wind of heavens by the ruinous powers to my memory. He shows up at the end of the End Times and battles Archaon
They do not buckle in the face of that cruel world though
Well, except Kruber. I mean, voice is just trying to peeve him with prospects of pawning his companions for thirty silver coins, but no sane man would do that.
Denial: Bardin
Anger: Kruber
Bargaining: Victor
Depression: Kerillian
Acceptance: Sienna
Kruber really is not anger, he accepted way more than the others
@@fr-joey764
And Sienna's is more dismissal. She's not denying it, but she's also not accepting anything. She's try to play it off as if the things she's done don't matter anymore.
Absolutely disagree, kruber has accepted it cause he is the least ashamed of the 5 since he has no's real reason to, he is definitely acceptance, Sienna sounds even angrier in her answers so I would swap the two
Man do i love Bardin's character design so much and him talking and singing just adds joy to the whole group, finding out about his son only made me more depressed about his past, as i already knew he was exiled but didn't know why. Really sad to see this happen to a person like him, so kind and warm to everyone, especially to Sienna where in one of the dialogues she says that she wont be accepted by anyone but Bardin says "To some of us dawi, to some of us."
There actualy are some dwarfs who try to (and i think to some degree even succeed) become wizards.
@@armintor2826 I don't think that's the case, as far as I know. Dwarven biology is inherently resistant to magic (by design), to the extent that the Chaos Dwarf Sorcerers and Daemonsmiths, who do practise magic, find themselves gradually turning to stone.
@@armintor2826 Dwarfs in warhammer can not become wizards, they can become runepriests which is different. Only Chaos Dwarfs can use magic and it kills them over time.
@@LordOfTheSolarCity I wonder if that will be depicted in WH3.
Demon: offering power gold and influence
Keruber: I am overwhelmed with indifference
Gotta love how Kruber seems to just accept his guilt, because he know what he was and is.
He has survivor's guilt.
@@victuz ye
First time I heard one of these lines I was playing with Kerillian. It caught me off guard and really creeped me out.
What really creeped me out was discovering Kerillian is responsible for Ubersreik downfall and the death of Kruber's parents.
I couldn't believe it.
@@victuz Most elves, specially Asrai and Druchii view the other races of order (save maybe the lizardmen) as less than. It doesn´t surprise me much that she would partake in the massacre of humans soldiers.
Remember that line in Athel Yen Lui when Bardin asks her if the elven gods would help them and she states that they would just as gladly kill a dwarf as a Skaven? I think that encompasses well the view of the elven races on all others, even if from time to time they lend a hand to other forces of order.
@@snowythesnowball182 It's a little more complex than that, specifically with regards to the Elves of Ulthuan. Teclis represents a large faction of elves that support mankind and more international efforts against Chaos.
@@eldradulthran6482 Well, yeah. But that´s because of a plan to use the younger races to fight the common enemy, not because he wants to be friend. I know we are not supposed to talk about End Times, but Teclis steals the white flame of Ulric to try and revive Tyrion condemming Middenheim, the greatest human city fortress to fall, and shortly after dies Valen, the avatar of Sigmar. There´s also Imrik who crusades throught the world, but hated that he was saved by the Bretonnian King at some point, because being helped by humans made him feel icky or something.
@@snowythesnowball182 There is definitely a sense of superiority, but Teclis did actually view humanity with a level of respect, and believed he was in the right in taking the flame of Middenheim, though his plan ended up failing.
In game these lines are so great. Especially when it happens to a teammate and all you hear is the reply from your teammate and wonder what the daemon was sayin
To me, the scariest part was Sienna's - just the thought of her being completely addicted and psychotic, and not giving any fucks for real.
And she also old, old people doesn't give shite anymore
Interesting to hear more about the Dwarfs’ backstory...and the elf too.
Where Bardin left his team and son to die? Where Kerillian let Clan Fester run rampant and told no one about it, or did nothing about it?
Do we know that it is the truth? Demons and sorcerers are known to lie
@@klyk69 But which are more damning? Truths or lies? A lie can kill a person, but truths kill nations.
@@klyk69 the way they react to what he says shows that their is some air of truth to it. Like how the elf counts her kills and their is dialogue where saltz asks why she does that. And also dialogue where she talks about having to make up for something.
@@lumberluc He didn't "leave" them to die, he got shanked by a gutter-runner and due to the wound was unable to raise the alarm in time.
Baldermort antagonizes several video game protagonists for 13 minutes, colorized.
I like how Kerlillian is the only one who seems terrified of the chaos gods, because she actually knows they are quite real and powerful
Oh they all know they exist.
Kerillian is the most afraid because she has the most to lose if either the truth comes to light and how that guilt torments her.
She killed reinforcements that may have saved Ubersreik, including Kruger’s family.
It’s because of her that practically everyone in Ubersreik, hundreds, possibly thousands of people died because she preemptively killed a military convoy of people who are ostensibly her allies.
Everyone knows Sienna is dangerous but they trust her to keep control. Even so they are all aware of the strain she faces and are wary enough of the possibility.
Everyone is aware of Saltzpyre’s profession and what he’s likely done, the worst that comes is that they know he’s failed before. Not so terrible since they don’t really respect his authority anyway.
Bardin’s personal grief is certainly a sore spot for him but it wouldn’t alienate him from them.
While he’s certainly upset when they pry into his affairs, his personal shame and grief isn’t something that would make him turn on them or vice versa.
And Kruber doesn’t really have anything to hide that he isn’t open about already.
Sienna's a wizard... Saltzpyre hunts down chaos god followers for a living...
Man, I really miss the lore book from the first game to help me piece these characters together
Its pretty amazing how the voice undermines each character not just personally but as a group.
Picking at their personal weakness while many times using it to create mistrust.
“ Why are my dreams full of blood … ?! “
- Victor Saltzpyre
Daemon: y’all are shit
Kruber: nah
Nameless Voice to me when playing Saltz: *S K A G G E N D O R F B O I I I*
Me who doesn't know anything about the lore: I DON'T CARE, YOUR WORDS ARE HERESY, YOU SHALL PERISH.
Damn, bardin has probably the most sad backstory. Poor Bardin
It’s not a daemon, its the “Nameless” Constant Drachenfels, “The Great Enchanter” he’s also called. Primordial sorcerer also.
New Chaos Wastes update just dropped. Turns out it's Be'lakor.
How wrong you were
It would kind of clever if the demon tried to convince Victor that Sigmar is dead and that he's been the puppet of the ruinous powers all this time.
-TWO NULN REGIMENTS? IN THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, IN THIS PART OF REIKLAND, VANISHED ENTIRELY AT HOGGARDS BRIDGE?
-Yes
-May I see them?
-No
-Elf? ELF?!
So many of these sound like something straight out of a "Saw" tape
Krubers confrontation is best summarized as 'Yes, and?'
The voice actor for the demon doesn’t get enough credit…
Constant Drachenfels is such a strange character, he's probably one of the oldest wizards in the WHF world considering he's so old that he remembers the coming of the Old Ones
Yeah, I'm baffled how he wasn't mentioned in TW.
I wish his lore could have been refined some more for the later editions.
I mean I would like to know how he was even able to learn necromancy, because I dont think he has any early connections with Nagash that we know of.
Also shouldnt he be much older than Nagash too if what you say is true?
That means he would have been able to increase his lifespan, even before any human civilization?
I cant really imagine all that being true at the same time, at least if looking to newer lore and his relevance in it.
what's interesting is Saltz (muh boi) had his eye plucked out by a grey seer. the only grey seers i know of in WHO Fantasy are the Horned Rat's Grey Seers. So saltz run-in with the skaven in the mines (where he also killed the innocent girl whom he thought was a vamp) involved way, way more than we think it does. more that just losing an eye and killing a girl
That's what set me off, too. Was he cooperating with the skaven then? At least temporary?
What about the Grey Seer in WH Vermintide 1, though? Wasn't that one human?
@@Mayhzon no the grey seer in VT 1 was Skaven.
He wasn't co-operating. He went in to shut down a Baron's mine which was producing warpstone. The Baron was selling it to both vampires and a skaven grey seer. Hence Saltz coming in and fucking shit up.
It does say on Saltzs' wiki that he's basically barred from being promoted in the ranks of witch hunter because he accepts heretical means to get to his goal.
Some shit happened. Dunno wtf it is but some shit 😂
@@killer900rocks
I mean the Grey Wizard in that one magical level with the amazing corridors and the teleportation gate. That one was human right?
Thanks for the clarification on his backstory, though.
@@Mayhzon and there's where words come into effect.
Grey *Seer* is for Skaven
Grey *Wizard* is human.
Btw the Grey Wizard you were referring to was I think Christoph Engil or smth like that
Good ole Drachenfels trying shenanigans
LOVE the way the guys respond to those voices, it's creepy and hilarious at the same time.
NGL, the VA for this Daemon is actually something else. Could've been his own fucking villain int he series for all I Knew.
This is what I’ve wanted so badly, ty so much for thiS
Thank you for your work! love this :D
Cheers! I love your videos too. :)
@@Hibernape it is a great honor 8)
Demon: Haha, you will never be forgiven by your clan!
Bardin: Graah.
*IN. THE. BOOK.*
Should they find out about Kerillian sabotaging and dooming Ubersreik, it would be hell.
Kruber will almost instantly try to kill her-his family died directly because of clan fester, Bardin will probably help Kruber as they are buddies and Bardin knows a thing or two about losing family and grief, Saltzpyre will probably understand but still try to kill her as it is his job to destroy threats to the Empire. Th only one who may defend her is Sienna, but who knows how she will react.
I really think he was trying too hard on Kruber, he doesn't have as much guilt as the rest, he shouldn't even feel guilt.
He does, however, have survivor's guilt, considering he was the only one of his regiment to survive the encounter with a necromancer.
You have no idea how heavy his guilt were. But different from the rest of the team, most people know that he was the only survivor of his band before Vermintide. That's why you don't feel like he's harboring guilt. Like he said "And?" he soaked it. Just like Sienna
He's guilt-ridden but his self-esteem is nonexistent so it's much easier to block out.
@@mahendrakrisnamurti9599 On the flipside, Kruber did spilled the fact that he raided and pillaged places such as Parravon, while no one knew Sienna essentially helped her sister, a dangerous necromancer, escape.
Damn, Kruber has some balls
I remember finishing chaos wastes run with my friend, and randomly hearing one of this lines in the Keep. Exactly at the moment my buddy went AFK to grab something to eat. I thought I have gone mad, but it's good to know that these lines exist in-game.
I love it how Kruber is only slightly annoyed, while the rest of the cast is on denial, depression, anger or barganing.
This would make a great series or movie when all of the characters open up to one another about their past. I wonder how it’ll play out since Kerillian had the biggest fuck ups out of all of them Saltzpyre would want to bring her to justice, Kruber would be furious since he lost a lot of men from the skaven
Ultimately, she was following a vision that appeared to be true but was ultimately flawed and she is paying the price of her failure, first by being exiled by her people for it and fighting to make it right, so Kruber may understand, humans have given orders to do things that were blatantly wrong, so it's not like they're not without faults, he would condemn her for it or figure that extra troops wouldn't have made a lick of a difference, but he would not kill her, it's not his call to make.
Bardin would be much like Kruber I reckon, his own failures led to a lot of great loss and is paying the price for it just as well himself, granted it was his own people but in his mind that's probably worse.
Sienna would very much be upset about it, but would likely figure that Kerrilian only meant to do right by her people and overstepped her boundaries, it's not like that she's perfect herself considering that her own obsession with fire has caused a lot of grief, maybe not a whole town but it certainly could happen given time, hell she even fancies the idea so she's hardly better. And likely say that the past is done, nothing can't be changed, can only move forward.
and Saltzpyre, he would have to be held back from killing her. But I think it would depend on the career, assuming that any of the carrers are canon, Witch Hunter and Zealot would want to kill her outright for that crime. Bounty Hunter just as well but he would likely realize that the reason she is fighting is to make it right, so probably act like he is doing with Sienna, her jailor who grants her a longer leash to fight against the common enemy. Her penance to fight until there's no Skaven left or die doing so. (I believe that considering the backstory that comes with Bounty Hunter and seeing that his blind faith to the Order's hierarchy was misplaced, much like like how Kerrilian placed blind faith in her vision, same thing, different circumstances, the Order could easily order a whole town to be put to the flame on mere suspicion of heresy after all.)
@@combinecommando001 You have no idea how much Iove this comment, it's like picing together a puzzle, great work
@@BringDHouseDown She tricked them into attacking that convoy on a false pretense. She didn't tell them the true reason behind why they attacked it, which is why when those above her found out she was singled out and exiled as a result. It was her decision to do it and drag others into helping her.
I'm pretty sure kruber's parents were killed in ubersriek by skaven, beacuse kerillian lead a team to kill the only people that could have stopped it..
Furious might be an understatement
@@alexwright7501 Oh boy, Khorne would blush at Kruber's reaction.
Sounds like Saltzspyre and Kerillian are being eaten alive by their own guilt.
Kind of humanising really.
That the immortal elf and the ruthless witch hunter are haunted by dark guilt over innocence.
"Go annoy someone else."
Kruber MVP right there
4:25
sindri? SINDRI!!!!
Lord bale....
But wheres BROK!
Oh... oh shit. So that's what the bridge battle Kerillian boasts about was. She killed the Empire soldiers sent to defend Ubersrike. This is bad... this is really-really bad. Better hope Saltzpyre never figures it out.
Kruber finding out would be heartbreaking. He's gradually fallen in love with her and she got his family killed.
@@IAmTheStig32 Come on now. Kruber isn't in love with her, nobody is. He just figured out that she doesn't really mean all of the garbage she says.
Turns out kruber is the only hero.
He dreams of selling them off and live a wealthy life.
@@Plop1482 But he doesn't. And until he does, he's the best of them.
@@Bulletproof222 listen Drachenfels voicelines.
hes really not. he has a lot of guilt but he lived his life a unscrupulous mercenary. And while he had compassion for the people he fought alongside with its pretty clear and implied that he lend his sword to more...darker deeds if the coin was right....
@@allanredhill8682 you just say that because you obviously play the elf
Kruber really said, "do I look like I give a fuck? Because I don't."
Tzeentch is laughing his ass off about how he played kerillian , im sure.
Sometimes the greatest of hero’s are the ones who are broken.
This is why elves are not the defenders of the world, a high elf noble incited assault from the asrai on his home by killing ariel's sister, intentional or no, ariel, the queen of athel loren and representation of life's purity, EMBRACED the dark power of magic and the corruption it brought. Though they won't admit it, every step the druchii take is in the name of chaos, every sacrifice, every scream of pain, slaanesh drinks it all in. No matter who they are, they have all misread the signs of their visions and portents, hastening the end by trying to stop.
wow. the ubersreik five are all sad, borken people. each has a past they regret and they each more or less accepted that thier road has reached it´s end. Kerillian seeks to settle a debt which she will never consider paid, Bardin quests for a goal he knows to be unattainable, Victor decends into obsessing over skaven to avoid thinking about the fact that his faith failed him and he is doubting and both Sienna and Markus have just sort of resigned themselves to keep going on with no purpose or goal in mind. kruber doesn´t even deny these accusations or try to make excuses (I.e. "It wasn´t so siple" "that wasn´t my fault") he just goes "yes and?" It´s really frightening to see him discociate like that.
So basically Vermintide 1 and 2 is Kerillian's fault.
They really put a lot into the dialogue, i love it.
Sienna is super relatable.
"Ah, it's past, so what! Lalala- Can't hear you! Not listening!~"
listening to Kerillian now and what she says during the pilgremage...things are about to *Change*
"I'll bet Kerillian will have some sharp and snappy comebacks for him."
He speaks
"Oh, you poor baby..."
you think that's a demon? oh my sweet summer child this is no petty demon that is
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Best level in the game. These lines is one of the reasons why.
This voice...is that the same voice actor as Aldia from DS2? The way he says 'flame' is so distinctive.
Bardin nooooo😢
*they're all dead because of yooouuu, Bardin!*
D'OH
The demon sounds like Jigsaw.
What an incredible way to immerse lore into the game.
Lol, that line about a bridge and "two regiments disappearing without a trace" got explained at last. So Kerillian really was there and killed humans because ahe believed that they would endanger her forest. And she felt proud for herself doing that.
Nope, different events, hogger's bridge is old news before the vermin apocalypse and kerillian is happy about that, this is a convoy is eating away heavily at her so much drachenfels is taunting her with it to great effect.
Bardin: 'Depressed Dwarf Noises'
Kerillian: Literal mind break fetish from -Japan- Nippon
Victor: HOLY SIGMAR BLESS THIS RAVAGED FAITH
Sienna: "HAHA JOKES ON YOU I AM ALREADY CRAZY"
Chad Kruber: "Hey little voice, go annoy someone else."
.....holy shit I didnt realize Kerillian had such a heavy fucking impact. Thats....thats insane...
My reaction today. This video completely changed my views over each of them.
Me: A kerillian main after finding out that kerillian cause the fall of Ubersriek 😮
The voice work is really really good in terms of conveying emotion. The eye part makes so much sense now.
I love siennas no fucks given attitude in any situation
I wonder why Constant Drachenfels let the skaven looting his castle unharmed...
He's playing 4D chess
@@punishedredruby Reference to the old Sega 3D Chess with the old Wizard on the Cover, i guess^^
He is without a body and has lost his memories, if we go by how Nagash finds him in the End Times.
He clearly has bigger problems than a bunch of ratmen and some shirtless dudes taking his old magic baubles. Still a dick though, as can be seen in this video.
@@NeoChronoid I dont believe in the event that shall not be mentioned^^ I like the grimgork kick in acharons balls version better.
He isnt the big rat. He doesnt make the rules.
i want the deamon of drachenfels as a boss... now we know the deamon is be'lakor
@Lord Inquisitor Shadowlord i know its Drachenfells but in the first lvl there is a daemon gargoyle heads
Wait a minute so those 2 nuln regiments was the military convoy that was going to help ubersreik
Exactly.
No, hogger's bridge is an event in the pass as victor clearly knows about it second hand as if it's been documented and speculated about and kerillian is joyous about that event. Here, the sabotage of the military convoy is devastating to her, so much so that drachenfels is using it againist her. So no, she's not having an emotional 180 about the same event just because someone else is talking about it.
You know what I am almost sure that the sound at the start of deamon voice lines is from dawn of war
I like how Sienna doesn’t care, she is a mage? What can this Daemon say that she hasn’t heard before by countless others lol
That's concerning actually.
Are these the same for the Enchanter's Lair? Nice work, my dude
I've gotten the same exact lines, so I'd assume yes. And thanks.👍
All I hear is kruber being piss off, bardin being stubborn and sayin your a liar and don't exist ,kerillian being crushed by guilt ,saltz being terrified angry and broken, sienna just being annoyed and not carring