Thanks to Kidology for being so open! This was an amazing conversation, and I'm so grateful to call Zee a friend th-cam.com/video/GLPnONpeaeI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_1gfRnLSPAs7FGWp
I think kidology should read My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness by Nagata Kabi (it's an autobiografia josei manga), I think a lot of what she said in the video is similar to what the author describes in her work
Dude this convo was wild. So glad you talked to Kidology in this way. I relate to her alot and listening to this, honestly made me look at some shit in myself, for real. No doubt she also has a whole lot on her mind after this too!!! hahaha
I love Zee! She's so lovely, intelligent and thoughtful. This conversation was so beautiful that I could cry. Maybe therapy hasn't given her what she needs. The insecurities and lack of self acceptance is overwhelming for her. I'm so glad you could help her begin to break that cycle and help her see her worth on her own. Once she works on the self, I think she really could find value in using the internet, but just different parts of it. She's limited to her local bubbles, and thus her view of the possibilities are limited too. She has so much to give and there are PLENTY of people who can see her that also fit her type. The best of wishes to her!
I am a femme Arab-Italian lesbian and I have mostly dated femme Black or Arab lesbians in the UK. I am pretty sure Zee and I went to the same uni (Oxford). I am just not sure where she is coming from that she has not met any other femme Black lesbians. There are literally events for QTPOC all over the UK. I am now in DC, USA and there is certainly no lack of femme Black lesbians here, though many of them are alt. Maybe that is her issue? I do think a lot of femme Black lesbians tend to be more alt, but there is no lack of “vanilla” femme Black lesbians in the UK. idk….
I think she feels like her experience is more unique because her queer identity is so very very young. I remember the first 2 years I was out, I felt quite lonely, unlovable and strange (although this is 14-16 so take that with a grain of salt). But eventually I found different communities and have seen heaps of QTPOC at queer events, clubs, etc. There are more people out there fitting this same "niche" category as her, its simply a matter of time and place. Does she go to a lesbian speed dating event with 30 middle aged/older queer people and a handful of young people happening at a smallish town library or is she in London,Bristol, Brighton, etc. going to queer raves, queer bar pop ups, lesbian spoken poetry nights (yes this is a thing haha), lesbian art exhibitions. Its all about where you are when it comes to finding a community and I hope she is in the right place at the right time! Edit: Speaking as a black butch autistic lesbian living in Australia, doesn't get more niche than that lol
Yeah in one of her recent videos where she talks about her struggles with dating, she mentions that one of the reasons why she finds it difficult to find people to date is because she is a very niche old-soul type of person basically, and that narrows down the dating pool (like how her race, and sexuality also do) Edit: It might also be possible that you came out a lot earlier than her, or are more outgoing and have met more people incl LGBTQ people than her
The group vs individualistic talk makes a lot of sense as to why there out ‘outsiders’ or outliers of communities. It also explains how more deeper relationships can happen one on one but those individuals put together don’t necessarily get along. It’s nice to see when groups do get along, but it also explains why the world is still having internal conflicts and prejudices in different bubbles.
Omg YESSSS! Now we finally learn that psychedelics were present during the creation of the levels! 🤩 Around 4 years ago, in a Q&A live video of yours, I had asked for your thoughts on psychedelics, and I think that was one of the first times that you opened up about using them as tools (+fun). I had often thought that the introspective work you were presenting resembled my own introspection journey using psychedelics. They are suuuuch great tools for outside-of-the-bubble thinking, self-discovery and deep healing.
Your questions are so great i'm actually in awe of how could someone come up with questions so simple yet meaningful you're like the best interviewer i've seen and (i think?? i'm new to your content) you're not even an interviewer as in profession. Great listening to you both
Still listening to this conversation, it's a long piece but I want to at this moment wish Kidology the best and I hope she finds true love in a partner and someone who will be proud of her and lift her up and someone she will be proud of, but know that there are ups and downs in every relationship no matter how perfect it seems so she will find all the strength to weather the storms together with her partner😍
took couple days to watch, but this was good. thankyou girls. kidology youll never find relashionship, but ! you absolutely will create one, so take the time, do the work and decide witch you actually do. i belive in you !!
Great interview. It's interesting that shes seems to have had the experience of many black women regarding the importance of our hair to how we are treated in society. I'd be curious to know more. Has her natural hair been rejected by society? I wonder how she'd respond to black women discussing that experience
This is awesome! Kidology needs to leave the bloody UK, I mean it. Go to another European country if you can or try something different, you have no idea how much I relate to you whenever you talk about the UK. I spent 7 years living in all sorts of places in England, tried almost every city, small town, you name it. I immigrated after I turned 18 and I have never stopped feeling isolated, alienated and out of place. Eventually I gave up on the idea of building a life there and left somewhere warmer and nicer. I feel like a totally different person and the flow of my life has transformed completely. Especially when it comes to people, sense of belonging etc. Environment does a lot to a person, you’re such a bright, intelligent and authentic person and you deserve to be content with your life and those around you. Check out studies on UK and isolation/loneliness, it’s not just your feeling and experience.
Man totally same. I lived in the uk for 7 years and I was miserable. I was much happier when I moved back to South Africa. And I think even other countries are great, that's just where I ended up. But I feel like people in the UK can be very othering.
@STARK0181 it is and that does make me very sad but there are communities within south africa that are more integrated and that's where I tend to be. Like young lgbt spaces with all races being friends and hanging out. Like I've got my community of people that I hang out with and then there are communities that are very segregated that I just don't really participate in. And if people give me hate when I'm in a public space I ignore them and then go gossip to my friends about it and we laugh at all the stupid people in the world judging us over nothing. I think among young people especially there are a lot of us that celebrate our diversity and different cultures and are more open minded. You just have to go find those groups, which can be a bit intimidating at first. I found going to pride events helpful.
The trauma in South Africa is real. There is culturism / tribalosm, colourism, racism, sexism, etc. If you don't have a "homeland" or fit in the mould of a specific community it's just strange to people. If you don't speak a specific language besides English then you are a foreigner. The the Xenophobia comes in. Or you are just stuck up or a coconut as she says.
I don't want to get all woowoo but I do believe we attract what we project. It is the same when you really want something, but don't believe you will get it... It's a difficult predicament because it causes increased anxiety. I also didn't realise she is South African. With all the history we have this side I can totally understand where she is coming from. Some of the "best" men this side would choose a white or coloured/mixed person over some black ladies. It's not a generalisation but definitely something that in the middle and upper middle class you find yourself taking a back seat.
Nobody wants to hear that. She also said multiple wealthy Nigerian men proposed to her, and she turned them down because they “only wanted her for her body.”
@@STARK0181 yeah... I think you need to read my comment again. That's very far from what I was saying. I even added that I am not giving a generalisation...
I'm really sad for kidology's experience of South Africa. Like obviously it depends on the region but as a South African who moved to England as a kid and then moved back, I really hated living in England. I felt like such an outsider and so isolated and judged. But when I moved back I found my people, and I'm a part of the lgbt community and yeah, like there is a lot of diversity but that means there are always communities out there that you can relate to. Like I love it here and I'll never move to anywhere else. But like, I know we have some communities that can also be really toxic. And I feel so sad for anyone that didn't find the people that they feel they can connect with. I'm not sure if I'm making sense. Like I don't want to dimish her experience because it's totally valid. But it's just sad to me because it was so different from mine.
If this became a regular thing I would watch the sh*t out of it Also, as a black guy who grew up Mormon I definitely feel what Kidology is saying when it comes to the black community, and having left the community I grew up in I feel Brittany when it comes to comfortably being an individual and doing my own thing
I really see how its different the culture in the us and other countries regarding politics, none its specially wrong its just how the history and social issues affect how we perceive and live , im mexican so here its also different
Wow, mature a little (it's rough but I am French). I grew up in foster home because my black parent were drug addict. Do I like black community no (only grew up partially with them). I am married to a woman, di I fit in in any LGBT spaces, no because of the different point of views I have that makes me clash a lot with these two spaces. The amount of intelligence that Kiddology seems to holds is already attractive enough. She will find someone no question, but the self loathing is worrisome. Also when dating people needs to be open enough to go deep (deep conversations, deep feelings, deep commitment), to have trust. Public person like Kiddology are more prone to be ready and quick into these conversations. Also, being that open about who she made out with would be intimidating for people. I am so glad to be married, premarital life as gone wild !
1:22:46 I like kidology but I hate when black people from other countries say they’re not offended by the n word. The word has ZERO to do with you. It is a word specific to black Americans. So why would she be offended???
Kidology doesn't like black people, she says this in every interview. she always says she has never got along with black people in the UK or the black people in South Africa. this a bigoted belief she has. she says she doesn't have a problem with individual black people, but of course she does. the vast majority of black Americans are not political activists and most of their get togethers and traditions are not about politics. I would imagine it is the same for the small black British population. So I don't know what kidology means by the black community. The black community is just your family and friends. She seems to imagine that the black community has some political force on her that she doesn't want to fulfill, but that's bs.
She said every time she tries to interact with them they reject her, and honestly I believe it. A. She’s a nerd B. She’s culturally a white woman. I do think the “black people want to control my politics” thing is a cope. Certain black people correctly identified her as lacking racial self esteem.
It’s funny because she says that “the black community doesn’t like each other” but she has 0 black friends so where is she meeting this “community” she think black people gather at 5 pm somewhere? We are just individuals lol I’m black from South America and have nothing in common culturally with black Americans or with Africans … but people think you belong to some “community” like… my family?
@@rubyblue7119 I’m not projecting. She says all the time I don’t get along with black people. Whether in South Africa, or the UK or online. In another interview she said if she thinks about the black community she’d have a lot of negative feelings about black people. That to overcome that she has to think of individual black people. Yet she also said that the incel community which has a lot of bigoted hateful beliefs directly at the core of that community. A community that considered her ugly because she is black and has other hateful beliefs because she is a woman, Is not that bad.
Thanks to Kidology for being so open! This was an amazing conversation, and I'm so grateful to call Zee a friend
th-cam.com/video/GLPnONpeaeI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_1gfRnLSPAs7FGWp
What a great follow up video/ collab and so fast ! I was just watching the original Brittany /Kidology last night.
Zee truly is such a lovely human! I'm so glad we could speak as quickly as we did. Such a great convo!
@@BrittanySimon great work ! Nice job on asking the hard questions too!
@@LorryHill Thank you girl!!!
@@BrittanySimonwoah two of my bubbles just collided
@@jasperpeterpershing7165same!
I think kidology should read My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness by Nagata Kabi (it's an autobiografia josei manga), I think a lot of what she said in the video is similar to what the author describes in her work
That manga.is.amazing
I love that manga
lol i read that mangago its really something
Dude this convo was wild.
So glad you talked to Kidology in this way. I relate to her alot and listening to this, honestly made me look at some shit in myself, for real. No doubt she also has a whole lot on her mind after this too!!! hahaha
I love Zee! She's so lovely, intelligent and thoughtful. This conversation was so beautiful that I could cry. Maybe therapy hasn't given her what she needs. The insecurities and lack of self acceptance is overwhelming for her. I'm so glad you could help her begin to break that cycle and help her see her worth on her own. Once she works on the self, I think she really could find value in using the internet, but just different parts of it. She's limited to her local bubbles, and thus her view of the possibilities are limited too. She has so much to give and there are PLENTY of people who can see her that also fit her type. The best of wishes to her!
27?? OMG girl I'm glad you're giving yourself time. I found my person in my mid 30's. Love finds you when you're ready.
very profound and vulnerable conversation, the end made me so sob a little. i wish i was as capable as kid to look within myself without extra bs
I am a femme Arab-Italian lesbian and I have mostly dated femme Black or Arab lesbians in the UK. I am pretty sure Zee and I went to the same uni (Oxford). I am just not sure where she is coming from that she has not met any other femme Black lesbians. There are literally events for QTPOC all over the UK. I am now in DC, USA and there is certainly no lack of femme Black lesbians here, though many of them are alt. Maybe that is her issue? I do think a lot of femme Black lesbians tend to be more alt, but there is no lack of “vanilla” femme Black lesbians in the UK. idk….
I think she feels like her experience is more unique because her queer identity is so very very young. I remember the first 2 years I was out, I felt quite lonely, unlovable and strange (although this is 14-16 so take that with a grain of salt). But eventually I found different communities and have seen heaps of QTPOC at queer events, clubs, etc.
There are more people out there fitting this same "niche" category as her, its simply a matter of time and place. Does she go to a lesbian speed dating event with 30 middle aged/older queer people and a handful of young people happening at a smallish town library or is she in London,Bristol, Brighton, etc. going to queer raves, queer bar pop ups, lesbian spoken poetry nights (yes this is a thing haha), lesbian art exhibitions. Its all about where you are when it comes to finding a community and I hope she is in the right place at the right time!
Edit: Speaking as a black butch autistic lesbian living in Australia, doesn't get more niche than that lol
Yeah in one of her recent videos where she talks about her struggles with dating, she mentions that one of the reasons why she finds it difficult to find people to date is because she is a very niche old-soul type of person basically, and that narrows down the dating pool (like how her race, and sexuality also do)
Edit: It might also be possible that you came out a lot earlier than her, or are more outgoing and have met more people incl LGBTQ people than her
So glad you uploaded this! I couldn’t watch the whole live!
TWO BRILLIANT INTERESTING INDIVIDUALS! Thank you both 💌
4:09:53 legit made me tear up! girls feeling seen, such a beautiful thing. i so cant wait to see kidology flourish in her own time! 🙏
Same! This was so beautiful! I could feel the world open up for her. ❤
The group vs individualistic talk makes a lot of sense as to why there out ‘outsiders’ or outliers of communities. It also explains how more deeper relationships can happen one on one but those individuals put together don’t necessarily get along. It’s nice to see when groups do get along, but it also explains why the world is still having internal conflicts and prejudices in different bubbles.
I love Kid, but she does remind me of blackpill thinking ironically. she also looks beautiful in green.
compliments her olive skin tone
Omg YESSSS! Now we finally learn that psychedelics were present during the creation of the levels! 🤩
Around 4 years ago, in a Q&A live video of yours, I had asked for your thoughts on psychedelics, and I think that was one of the first times that you opened up about using them as tools (+fun).
I had often thought that the introspective work you were presenting resembled my own introspection journey using psychedelics. They are suuuuch great tools for outside-of-the-bubble thinking, self-discovery and deep healing.
I love that you guys are like two opposites but also so similar
The healthy way to clear up misunderstanding / and informing perception .
Yesss preach!!
Your questions are so great i'm actually in awe of how could someone come up with questions so simple yet meaningful you're like the best interviewer i've seen and (i think?? i'm new to your content) you're not even an interviewer as in profession. Great listening to you both
A wonderful conversation, thank you both for sharing.
This video was so good, you are slowly becoming one of my fav youtubers
Still listening to this conversation, it's a long piece but I want to at this moment wish Kidology the best and I hope she finds true love in a partner and someone who will be proud of her and lift her up and someone she will be proud of, but know that there are ups and downs in every relationship no matter how perfect it seems so she will find all the strength to weather the storms together with her partner😍
took couple days to watch, but this was good. thankyou girls. kidology youll never find relashionship, but ! you absolutely will create one, so take the time, do the work and decide witch you actually do. i belive in you !!
LOVE this duo! Always look forward to these convos. Please have more cross-overs!!!!
Great interview. It's interesting that shes seems to have had the experience of many black women regarding the importance of our hair to how we are treated in society. I'd be curious to know more. Has her natural hair been rejected by society? I wonder how she'd respond to black women discussing that experience
She did a video a while ago talking about her hair and her journey with her hair, taking care of it, wearing wigs, and all that
This is awesome! Kidology needs to leave the bloody UK, I mean it. Go to another European country if you can or try something different, you have no idea how much I relate to you whenever you talk about the UK. I spent 7 years living in all sorts of places in England, tried almost every city, small town, you name it. I immigrated after I turned 18 and I have never stopped feeling isolated, alienated and out of place. Eventually I gave up on the idea of building a life there and left somewhere warmer and nicer. I feel like a totally different person and the flow of my life has transformed completely. Especially when it comes to people, sense of belonging etc. Environment does a lot to a person, you’re such a bright, intelligent and authentic person and you deserve to be content with your life and those around you. Check out studies on UK and isolation/loneliness, it’s not just your feeling and experience.
Man totally same. I lived in the uk for 7 years and I was miserable. I was much happier when I moved back to South Africa. And I think even other countries are great, that's just where I ended up. But I feel like people in the UK can be very othering.
@STARK0181 it is and that does make me very sad but there are communities within south africa that are more integrated and that's where I tend to be. Like young lgbt spaces with all races being friends and hanging out.
Like I've got my community of people that I hang out with and then there are communities that are very segregated that I just don't really participate in. And if people give me hate when I'm in a public space I ignore them and then go gossip to my friends about it and we laugh at all the stupid people in the world judging us over nothing. I think among young people especially there are a lot of us that celebrate our diversity and different cultures and are more open minded. You just have to go find those groups, which can be a bit intimidating at first. I found going to pride events helpful.
The trauma in South Africa is real. There is culturism / tribalosm, colourism, racism, sexism, etc. If you don't have a "homeland" or fit in the mould of a specific community it's just strange to people. If you don't speak a specific language besides English then you are a foreigner. The the Xenophobia comes in. Or you are just stuck up or a coconut as she says.
I don't want to get all woowoo but I do believe we attract what we project. It is the same when you really want something, but don't believe you will get it... It's a difficult predicament because it causes increased anxiety.
I also didn't realise she is South African. With all the history we have this side I can totally understand where she is coming from. Some of the "best" men this side would choose a white or coloured/mixed person over some black ladies. It's not a generalisation but definitely something that in the middle and upper middle class you find yourself taking a back seat.
Nobody wants to hear that. She also said multiple wealthy Nigerian men proposed to her, and she turned them down because they “only wanted her for her body.”
@@STARK0181 yeah... I think you need to read my comment again. That's very far from what I was saying. I even added that I am not giving a generalisation...
@@STARK0181OK 👍
I'm really sad for kidology's experience of South Africa. Like obviously it depends on the region but as a South African who moved to England as a kid and then moved back, I really hated living in England. I felt like such an outsider and so isolated and judged. But when I moved back I found my people, and I'm a part of the lgbt community and yeah, like there is a lot of diversity but that means there are always communities out there that you can relate to. Like I love it here and I'll never move to anywhere else. But like, I know we have some communities that can also be really toxic. And I feel so sad for anyone that didn't find the people that they feel they can connect with.
I'm not sure if I'm making sense.
Like I don't want to dimish her experience because it's totally valid. But it's just sad to me because it was so different from mine.
not Brittany accidentally using the British accent in the beginning 😭😭
I love y'all's friendship
If this became a regular thing I would watch the sh*t out of it
Also, as a black guy who grew up Mormon I definitely feel what Kidology is saying when it comes to the black community, and having left the community I grew up in I feel Brittany when it comes to comfortably being an individual and doing my own thing
I really see how its different the culture in the us and other countries regarding politics, none its specially wrong its just how the history and social issues affect how we perceive and live , im mexican so here its also different
Wow, mature a little (it's rough but I am French). I grew up in foster home because my black parent were drug addict. Do I like black community no (only grew up partially with them). I am married to a woman, di I fit in in any LGBT spaces, no because of the different point of views I have that makes me clash a lot with these two spaces. The amount of intelligence that Kiddology seems to holds is already attractive enough. She will find someone no question, but the self loathing is worrisome.
Also when dating people needs to be open enough to go deep (deep conversations, deep feelings, deep commitment), to have trust. Public person like Kiddology are more prone to be ready and quick into these conversations. Also, being that open about who she made out with would be intimidating for people.
I am so glad to be married, premarital life as gone wild !
Definitely neurodivergent
Kidology please just date me
I love this so much
God I love you kidology
1:22:46 I like kidology but I hate when black people from other countries say they’re not offended by the n word. The word has ZERO to do with you. It is a word specific to black Americans. So why would she be offended???
It’s used in South Africa.
@@drnot442that’s even worse. When you allow people to disrespect you, you are disrespecting yourself.
@@raw5889It comes as no surprise, really. Kid seems to have really low self esteem.
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When your preference is the complete opposite of you, you’re going to have trouble dating.
Personally, I ship you and Zee 😂❤
so good
Shes so British
Hey guys she’s South African! But lives in England!
We speak the Queens English in South Africa 😂
Kidology doesn't like black people, she says this in every interview. she always says she has never got along with black people in the UK or the black people in South Africa. this a bigoted belief she has. she says she doesn't have a problem with individual black people, but of course she does. the vast majority of black Americans are not political activists and most of their get togethers and traditions are not about politics. I would imagine it is the same for the small black British population. So I don't know what kidology means by the black community. The black community is just your family and friends. She seems to imagine that the black community has some political force on her that she doesn't want to fulfill, but that's bs.
She said every time she tries to interact with them they reject her, and honestly I believe it. A. She’s a nerd B. She’s culturally a white woman.
I do think the “black people want to control my politics” thing is a cope. Certain black people correctly identified her as lacking racial self esteem.
It’s funny because she says that “the black community doesn’t like each other” but she has 0 black friends so where is she meeting this “community” she think black people gather at 5 pm somewhere? We are just individuals lol I’m black from South America and have nothing in common culturally with black Americans or with Africans … but people think you belong to some “community” like… my family?
I think y'all are projecting
I think it's just her internalized anti-blackness. Hopefully she works through it soon cause it's very sad to see.
@@rubyblue7119
I’m not projecting. She says all the time I don’t get along with black people. Whether in South Africa, or the UK or online. In another interview she said if she thinks about the black community she’d have a lot of negative feelings about black people. That to overcome that she has to think of individual black people. Yet she also said that the incel community which has a lot of bigoted hateful beliefs directly at the core of that community. A community that considered her ugly because she is black and has other hateful beliefs because she is a woman, Is not that bad.
zee, have you tried microdosing or mushrooms
You guys should date