WATCH exclusive bonus content where *Zee* answers audience questions. CLICK the link: triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Intro 01:22 Zandile’s Background 08:11 Why Was Claiming Victimhood So Distressing? 09:33 The Conflicting Values in England & South Africa 11:48 An Outsider Perspective on How Race is Perceived in the West 15:13 What Are the Real Race Problems That Are Being Ignored? 17:22 Have People's Identities Become Too Political? 22:54 Sponsor Message: AG1 24:02 The Issue With People Denying Their Agency by Claiming Victimhood 30:58 How Was Critical Race Theory Taught at Cambridge? 36:53 What Are The Challenges Faced by Gen Z as a Result of the Internet? 39:47 What Will Anti-Woke Culture Look Like in the Future? 43:01 Sponsor Message: Locals 44:04 The Current State of Men & Women 47:34 Healthy Role Models For Men 48:34 The Impact of Social Media on Young Women 53:10 What it Means to be the Best Version of Ourselves 57:46 The Lack of Understanding Between Generations 1:03:16 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About? th-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f447.png
the woke ideology (fat acceptance, 3rd wave feminism, social justice) is just satanism in disguise... the religion of self... viewing existence from the perspective of self vs viewing it as being part of a system, the universe (what i do effects you, what you do effects me, together we are a system) those 3 ideologies are exactly the same... swap out minority/majority with men/women then with fat/thin and you just went from social justice to fat acceptance and 0 of the arguments need to change (social justice, feminism, fat acceptance) 1. convince you you're different 2. convince you you're a victim because of that difference 3. convince you to act selfishly and take from this world, now that you feel like you're getting back something you've lost, something stolen from you, it's a scam, and a cult (satanism) 1. convince you are not part of the universe, you are alone, you are a single being external of the universe, the universe is acting upon you, not with you 2. convince you since the universe contains evil, it is the source of your suffering and is inescapable 3. convince you to act in your own self interest, because now you feel like you have an abuser, and refuse to see what you really are, 1/infinity of this universe, we are one the reason why the woke agenda will eventually have you arguing for segregation (as we've already seen on college campuses) is because segregation benefits the perspective of self, as people segregate they reproduce with their own race, and that makes the boxes they can put your children in by their race more defined and clearer, they don't want race mixing because that blurs the boxes, it's far more difficult to convince you to hate white people if one of your parents are white it's paramount that they get "multi-cultural centers" up on college campuses, this is peak time of finding mates and reproducing, it's a direct effort to keep students from race mixing this is bad because loneliness is misery, it hinders evolution, reproducing with someone far different than your unique self helps us evolve, we shouldn't just be race mixing, we should be dating from all corners of the planet to mix our dna as much as possible this perspective of self is hindering our own evolution and making everyone miserable and their religion is wokeism, it's how they spread their abuse and keep us enslaved... it's making the system we're all a part of weaker and what does this abuse create? some people don't like pride for the same reason why convicts in prison k**l pe***philes... they blame their entire life on them and they have a pretty good argument if they were m***lested by one "isn't it beautiful when mortal enemies like g@y people and the church get along to m**est more kids?" ~george carlin disclaimer: i am g@y (from childhood s***ual assault) and like most real g@y people, i'm not in love with other g@y people just because they're g@y... i show them compassion but i'm also careful around them because what they're capable of, they're familiar with pure evil (they're childhood s**ual assault victims and possible abusers themselves) the real g@y lifestyle isn't depicted on netflix... 40+ years old, single, degrading yourself to "get with" the youngest guys you can find because your brain is forcing you back to your trauma so you can remember it, meanwhile you get more depressed, fear aging, and live in misery alone... the g@y lifestyle is not glamorous, happy, it's not full of bright colors and parades... it's not a fairy tale, it's a lifestyle where the foundation is abuse, if not, please explain to me how lesbian relationships are also the most abusive relationships you can get into, and trans has the highest s**ide rate... when g@y men abuse each other they just call it "sex" in the form of shoving stuff up each other's a**es while they cheat on each other if you support fat acceptance or the lgbt lifestyle or even social justice then you are unknowingly supporting abuse victims to remain in an abusive situation of permanent victimhood for no reason, and then celebrate it, pride is a joke... the government and the corporations that run our government are more than happy to make pride a month so you can revel your abuse, roll around in it like a pig in slop by dancing through the streets in your underwear we actually encourage our child s** abuse victims to dance around in the streets in their underwear when they reach adulthood... think about that :/ ... have they not suffered enough humiliation? there's a difference between having compassion for the abused (lgbt people) and excusing abusive behavior (the g@y lifestyle, wokeism/satanism) which does nothing but spread more abuse, it's a vicious circle of abuse masquerading as a fun and loving experience full of support the path of happiness begins when you realize this universe isn't abusing you... you're abusing yourself 💕
@triggerpod why do you have some random african woman speaking on something she knows nothing about. She is not a Foundational Black American and she does not know the history of America. This is not a theory, dunno why whites try to trivialize the truth. *"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Red Summer Black Wallstreet Blockbusting Steering Race based Veterans Administration Loans Jim Crow Segregation Redlining Batson Rule Black Codes The list goes on and on Joe Biden/Bill Clinton crime laws
She popped up on my feed a year ago and was the only woman talking about loneliness. She really spoke to me. She’s smart, articulate, compassionate and introspective
I love that she takes a moment to think. Not everyone has the confidence to think before they speak without feeling pressure to spout trite nothing-statements.
Growing up I’d always get talked over from pausing so I have a habit of trying to be quick when saying something. If I can get over the fear of loosing people’s attention, that would give me so much peace. Thanks for the reminder
It's funny, all of my bullying nightmares, came from Black women. Granted we were young and I'm not putting this on race....but it goes to show just because they are Black or any certain color, doesn't mean they are for you. Please look at people individually, not as a collective.
I've been bullied by the entire rainbow 😢 black women, white, Indian... race definitely doesn't limit bullying. I'm glad you're speaking up bc people act like only white people can bully and it invalidates everyone else who had different experiences!
At Yale, BLM students were chanting “the only thing we have to lose is our chains”. These are the most privileged, lucky people on earth. The one percent of the one percent of the one percent of the world. These are the people talking with communist slogans? I’m willing to bet you dinner at the finest restaurant in town that they didn’t know that they were chanting communist slogans.
@@jasondashney That is truly mind boggling. I assume that Yale is of the same calibre as Harvard and Princeton. I guess that the indoctrination has been going on for a long time now.
Growing up, some of the biggest bullies were by other black people- particularly girls. Yet, some of the most supportive people outside of my family were Asian and White.
The only most overtly racist person I've spent significant time with over the years was a young black woman. She was a co-worker and let's just say she spoke very poorly of certain African Americans.
I'm black and grew up around white people in the suburbs, so I basically learned quickly that some of them were cool and others were not.... just like everyone else. I went to a pre-college program for minorities entering my University during which someone else in that program, a black girl, tried to make a fool of me during a group project. Since that experience, I knew that joining groups that focused on race over ideas/interests/activities was not for me. I wish that the young lady featured here could have realized sooner that skin color really has little to do with who you are as a person and could have avoided her depression, but I'm glad she was able to eventually get out of that dark place.
People just refuse to acknowledge the fact that race has nothing to do with anything. I'm as white as they come and the most friction I've ever gotten was when I was a kid in an immigrant camp in the early 80s. And it was from people from the former Czechoslovakia. I was born in Hungary. The first black kid I ever met (in Canada. There weren't any behind the iron curtain) picked a fight with me and the second stuck up for me. Yeah, that taught me a quick lesson as it comes to race: people are people and color has nothing to do with the quality of a person. It doesn't make you a victim or an oppressor either. So let's just get on with it and focus on important things.
@MrAmbrosse intelligence and thoughtfulness are not synonymous. I know many highly intelligent people who rink far to much of themselves and are actually not very thoughtful at all.
Absolutely. When I was young my parents as well as my school constantly ingrained into me that you judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Just like Martin Luther King Jr said. It was one of the overarching themes for me as a kid growing up in the 90's. I could not have ignored it if I tried. But nowadays I get called a racist bigot just because of my skin color. Its vile.
I’m in my 40s. It’s becoming more clear to me that young people these days are struggling in ways that many of us could have never imagined. I had no concept of any of this stuff when I was her age.
We keep getting told there will be pushback, a backlash, a pendulum swing, but I've been waiting fifty years and it never happens. This, is I believe what's needed.
It is being taught to divide the society, so their parameters can take over! Whilte versus black. Men versuswomen Straight versus queer Old versus young Etc They want to destroy our society.
Viewing everything through a racial lense of victimhood and illogical BS would make anyone miserable. Misery that can easily be blamed on 'racism,' creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
That's why there are so many who are suicidal. There's only so much being punched in the face by reality every day that someone can take. But some people just don't wake up from the Marxcist cults.
I have friends with parents from overseas, who've gone down the critical race rabbit hole and become extremely miserable and vindictive. All it does is teach you to feel envious, ungrateful and victimised, in spite of all the benefits that come with living in a wealthy, first wold liberal democracy.
I understand why CRT is taught because it used to be the opposite for a long time but yeah teaching people to be miserable and internalize past events is counterproductive to their growth and development as people
Lol totally. Like how Kamala Harris, whose dad taught economics at Stanford, and whose mom was was a PhD holding biomedical researcher, can try and paint herself as some kind of marginalized victim.
I am white and grew up in abject poverty, with uneducated parents and at the whims of misogynistic, narcissistic caregiving. We had nothing, but I didn't realise. Everyone around us had the grace not to make it plainly known. That was my salvation - not getting to build a sense of self around being hard done by.
Robert Sapolsky would probably say that you were endowed, at birth, with a really good pre frontal cortex that has allowed you an advantage that your circumstances did not, for self reflection and critical thinking. I hope you had a little luck along the way as well. Sapolsky puts a lot of faith in a little luck to counteract otherwise difficult hurdles of family and environment that might have given one a difficult start in life. My own experience tells me he’s correct. Best of luck!😊
I appreciate Kidology so much because she is actually willing to think about her answers a bit before answering and walk listeners through her thought process on how she's arrived at something. I also love that she is willing to admit fault and change her mind on things with zero sign of ego. She has a very composed thought process.
No. She is a dead-eyed, narcissistic ideologue with no solutions except to double down on the problems her beliefs are causing. She's got it right about CRT; I wonder if she'll have a similar awakening about feminism?
@@patrickbarnes9874she’s the perfect subject to fully fall for the victimhood narrative and yet she quite literally doesn’t ascribe to it. she’s refreshingly impartial in most of her videos.
The sad thing is, many would rather believe themselves to be victims than do what this young woman did and continue pushing through the lies, no matter how hard it got. Critical thinking is not part of the collective mind.
It works both ways m’am a collective effort from both sides …in order for the brainwashing to work black people need to believe they are oppressed and white people need to believe that too! Also she was only able to critically think cause of her upbringing, not every black poor person can make it to Cambridge or having white loving parents ..so I think we all need to critically understand how she’s an exception
The issue is the people who oppose science and logic, not the collective mind. Critical thinking is part of the collective mind, you are just exposed to those who lack it.
If it made you miserable - then it was doing one of it's intended jobs. Gents, see if you can get Thomas Sowell on to talk about his new book...he utterly ruins all the social justice nonsense...
Much of his new book is made up of things he already observed 30 years ago. Because he is always about 30 years ahead of the rest of us. The parallel in this video is of the young black guy who thought it would be pointless joining the air force, because the us air force "would never hire a black guy"... Years after numerous black fighter pilots had already been appointed. If you've ever seen a chat between billionaire Oprah Winfrey, and royal princess Markle, you will see that it is possible to persuade absolutely anyone that they are a victim.
I was pleasantly surprised to see Sowell come out of retirement and do an interview with the Hoover Institute. He's 93 years old, so I hope the Trig lads get him on as soon as possible.
the way I see this horrible theory is it is forcing people to feel history, not just read it and understand the facts but to carry some sort of emotional response or you're heartless or some crap. so yeah, it is an intended job of the theory to feel miserable so that some grifters can offer a service that "heals" but obviously traps you in a cycle that makes you miserable.
Imagine being at one of the most exclusive and expensive univercities in the world, who are probably in the top percentage of wealth and class, and being told you are some how oppressed. It makes no sense, and yet they believe it. Its baffling to me. If you were really oppressed, you wouldnt be at that school, nor even have any sort of education. You would live in a hovel in abject poverty.
Exactly. USA elected a black (well, half black) man as president. Which means the majority of USA citizens who voted chose him. Yet overall we are still considered racist! It is baffling.
To be fair oppression isnt always just insitutional. There is social ways to oppress others. Look at the woman who got beat up for having canerow. The whole cultural appropriation thjng is social but still very oppresive. One Youtuebee commentor said when she was pregnant and wearing her Viet husbands traditional outfit she got stabbed in the belly for wearing it. Oppression is subjective.
@@DarkAngel2512random acts do not equate to oppression. Also, random acts are committed in all directions. Oppression is being held down. Unable to live one's life freely. That is not reality in the west.
You can go to a fancy school and still be oppressed in some way. Race, class, sex, religion, nationality etc. You can have your fancy education but not be allowed to vote because you're a woman or you won't be hired because you're not a particular demographic etc.
I had an eye opening experience that made me wonder if a seed had been planted in my mind of being racially targeted, how every day interactions would appear in a way as validation even when things we quite innocent or innocuous. Example; This has happened to me a few times, which my perspective is what kept me from taking it the wrong way. When at the deli or meat counter waiting my turn, I’m often overlooked and the person who walked up after me gets called upon. Had I been a darker skin tone, this would solidify my belief of being mistreated and targeted for my color. However, I know as someone who’s worked behind the counter early in life that shorter people are sometimes not seen by the employees. Especially if you stand near the scale on top the counter, my head is completely blocked from their site. Most people when getting called before me, will speak up, point to me and say “this lady was here before me.” But not all. Some simply aren’t paying attention and occasionally they’re just opportunistic and A holes. Which happens in all races. Had this happened to someone of color, it would be micro aggression or something else sinister to confirm their own biases of being treated inferior to others. As long as the seed is planted, it will grow. I don’t think this is entirely by accident. I believe it’s it’s intentional by some. Not all, but definitely some
The micro aggression,you speak of is because they are paranoid because they like opening bottles and spitting in your drink on supermarket shelves I always wondered about in my lifetime when I hear blk people said I don't eat nothing I don't prepare myself These days I wouldn't eat or ask for anything a blk person has served/made
And then the seed is planted that anyone who is not black can be labelled a racist for even looking at someone I'm what is deemed the wrong way. They want us divided, i don't who they is, my opinion it's Russia and China, using social media to cause division using the algorithm against us, then the useful idiots do the rest. I remember asking the lady at my local shop how her family were back home, I wasn't going to incase it came across as offensive, this was at the start of COVID, anyway the smile that came across her face was so wide, she was genuinely touched that I asked. We can't let them divide us.
Brilliant take. From another angle, as a codependent, I often assumed people didn't like me when sometimes they would act awkward around me, etc. What I came to understand was that sometimes they just admired me so much that they felt intimidated by me, as some told me. We can never know what's in someone else's mind.
I think Bret Weinstein came up with this example: A black and a white person go into a shop at the same time. If the clerk serves the black person first she's desperate to get them out of the shop therefore racist. If she serves the white person first she's showing favouritism therefore racist. What is claimed to be racism these days is mostly life is difficult, isn't always fair and people make mistakes or are sometimes just rude to everyone.
I thought this as well. You tell someone, "you're a victim and any tiny inconvenience you experience is actually racism" then people experience tiny inconveniences and assume it's racism. And then if you and your peers start to vocalize that, people around you start thinking that people in your demographic are terrible people, which causes them to actually treat you differently, which is more proof of racism.... Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Great episode. The colourblindness of race (not being able to ask where you're from) is so regressive, like Zee mentioned. Usually when people ask that they're curious about your background, they want to hear your story and experiences but now if you ask "Where are you from?" you're labelled a racist. I work with a black man from South Africa and a few people from Asian countries are on my team and he's always asking about where they're from, in particular the types of food they cook. It's genuine curiousity and is completely fine and opens people up about who they are and where they came from. Is he a racist for focusing on that? Of course not.
Australia here: I'm an Indigenous Aussie and much of Zandile's commentary rings true for me. Even calling myself indigenous 'Australian' has resulted in some pretty woeful racism even with my family. But life is good... Just keep away from engaging too much in social media!
@tommysmith7031 in short I'm voting No however if Yes wins then so be it and hopefully we can manage something constructive. My main reason for no is I feel some (and often those who seek power) will do their all to disrupt progress (constant high court battles) and use their platform to build on division. Some of my mob HATE all the time. That's all they know. But most don't - we just need to help calm those like that down.
@@johncandy6508 Good to see a fellow indigenous Australian commenting here. A lot of us are just trying to get on with our own lives without racial identity politics.
I studied social work and the same happened to me, it made me so depressed, I'd have been good at the job but the race theory and feminism stuff made me feel ill, I do construction work now and it's harder but my mental health is better
@@Nutmeg142 yeah I hear you, I was a support worker and I wanted to level up so I thought social work was the obvious choice but the politics were too toxic for me, a part of me wanted to stay and fight it and get my own side across but I think I'd have lost, I'm not even suited to construction work but the people are more healthy
@@liam.4454 academics would never believe it, but the trades is where you find the most open-minded people. That’s because you’re allowed to speak freely. It definitely leans a bit conservative but worst case scenario is somebody rolling their eyes and telling you you are a dumb ass. They will make fun of you, and then ask where you wanna go for lunch. How hard you work and how easy you are to get along with matters so much more than anything else to people who do actual real work for a living. In the trades your performance is what matters. There’s no room for bigotry when you get paid by what you actually produce. Your boss doesn’t care what you look like if you outperform everybody else. And if you know your business inside and out then you can start your own company and make good money. It’s a meritocracy.
@@jasondashneyyeah it's way more healthy, 90% of the time, the only areas where social care is healthier is, it's easier to get a day off if I have an appointment and it's rare to see someone get shouted at, but a lot of that is down to the fact that people are lazier and more passive aggressive Even in terms of race, construction is less politically correct but people will mix, with critical race theory and academics, there's a huge divide with people
"The internet allows you to live in the delusion" This amazing woman should speak to every young person on earth today and teach them to see the delusion that they are living in. I am literally blown away by Zee and her powerful clear headed nature. Thank you.
I've been following Kidology's/Zee's content for a while now and find her so refreshing and sincere. I'm so glad this gifted girl is getting noticed by more people 🤗
Er, no. She is just fine with this society being wrecked by feminism. She's going to get a rude awakening when she hits the wall, and young men are no longer willing to destroy themselves and their interests for her.
@@jimluebke3869 You know why MEN keep telling women with massive body counts lose their value? BECAUSE MEN are the object that lesser value to humanity. Women are born with inherent value in that they create life. The more MEN that she comes in contact with the MORE they lessen her. MEN ARE THE WALL that women hit.
When I first arrived in the UK, I was treated so well by everyone at my university but something always felt off and I wasn't sure what it was, until another black woman joined our classes and then I began to see it all for myself. These "friends" of mine didn't want to be my friend because of me, I was essentially a trophy to them, something for them to collect and parade around their other friends, like the latest Pokemon. I saw how they treated the other black girl and sickened me. It was all smiles, love, tolerance with lots and LOTS of anti-racist platitudes, until they realised that I was not happy about the collecting of black friends just to say they had black friends and when I saw through their dishonesty, I realised this was the exact same stunt they'd done with me. One day I was asked to join an *Auntie-Fay protest and when I said that I didn't want to get involved with that, they called me nasty names (some racialized) but the real eye opener was I was unwilling to "stand against Trump" that time he came to the UK and I made the big mistake of saying that he made me laugh and that I didn't think he was all that bad. Ironically, the people they demonized and whom they liked to call fash were the only ones I found who treated me with genuine kindness and didn't just want to be my friend because of my skin colour. Out of that small group of friends, the only one whom still talks to me today is M******, the other black girl whom eventually also got shunned. While I didn't get involved with CRT like Zee did, my "friends" have and they've become such horrid people, to this day, I see them on social media and it is all virtue-signalling lies. If I was anything like them, I'd expose them for what they truly are but I am just not wired that way. Thanks for reading. ❤ _* wouldn't be visible with the true name in there_
I could understand them "collecting" friends if they were interested in your culture. I study Korean and likewise Koreans come here to study English so we mutually levitate to each other for that first-hand eperience and mutual interest. But if its just done to somehow prove youre not racist then as you say that eventually will show because these ppl dont act normal. My colleague is woke and I cant stand it. She often brings up race and says what black ppl supposedly find offensive despite her claims dont match my reality around black ppl. I have a sneaking suspicion she has had fuck all black friends in her life and is somehow trying to virtue-signal over me who actually has. Like she thinks she's edcuating me somehow. I now just let her waffle and dont pull her up on stuff as the last time I tried to correct her she wasnt having it about something I knew for a fact she was wrong on. And she walks around in clothing with black political messages. I sometimes get worried when ppl like that come into my work. Another guy had the t-shirt that had the "make racists/homophobes etc afraid again". Or when ppl with pronoun badges come in because activists especially those who wear it literally as a badge if honour are likely the type to get me fired for Fbk posts.
@@DarkAngel2512 I thought that they were genuinely interested in me but as time went on, more and more I realised that it was all about the number of black friends they could boast about. It is very strange behaviour. I literally caught them counting how many they had on facebook and they were all comparing with one another. This went on for an age, where we'd meet up for lunch and suddenly one would bring their phone out and say something like 'Oh look what I got today, 2 new black friends' then turning her phone around showing them to everyone and then some responding with, 'ah, I'm so jealous, what's their details, I'll see if I can be friends too.' It was utterly ridiculous. for the longest time, I thought they were doing this to test me for something but that wasn't it, they truly seemed to believe this made them good people or perhaps protection against the current environment, I am not sure. there is so much more to share, that equals around 5% but the funny thing is, so many people think it is some sort of humble brag on my part and therefore don't believe me at first but it absolutely was not, it gave me the creeps and still does when I think back. My advice to you regarding your colleague is to get as far away from them as possible because they WILL become a problem for you at some point down the road. I sympathise with you, just know you're not alone. anyway, thank you for responding.
@@carmengiles456 As I was still new to the UK at that time, I just thought it was a huge cultural difference between us but thankfully, that turned out not to be the case when I discovered outside of uni, it was far more grounded in reality. Thank you for reading. It means a lot.
Impressive young woman, what an incredible individual! She's really seen both worlds, quite literally. White South Africa, black Cambridge elites, white working class colleagues, on top of that her incredible history of growing up in foster care, plus religious philosophy and woke philosophy.
Excellent Lady! Could GB News not hire her to do an apprenticeship doing some short spots & interviews on the show formerly know as 'The Dan Wooton Show'? It would drive the wokies absolutely crazy to be accused of 'racism' & 'misogyny' themselves when they try to label her as 'White Supremacist Adjacent' or one of their other mad insults.
Gb news is being targeted by ofcom. Ofcom are working for the establishment. As you’ve seen you’re not ‘allowed to talk truth if it goes against the agenda
@@DeanCowanyeah. GB is failing because many of the presenters arent professional and I couldn't stomach it. I love Andrew and Merci. Some of the others are decent peeps but not who I watch.
@@grannyannie2948 It depends. It's a lot easier for that to be the case in a frightened society where your general goodness is weaponized against you. When you feel like you cannot afford to be kind because you will be harmed/betrayed/used etc it makes people behave more selfishly as a survival method. People become sociopathic.
That is exactly the post-modernist neo-Marxist mixture that stems from modern philosophy and has been dominating the Western academia she claims to oppose in this interview. How does that make sense?
This guest is lovely. I like how she is so humble & candid. I appreciate people who are willing to admit their mistakes & shortcomings, because it helps other people learn from them. I am glad that she has since gotten better emotionally. She seems like a really intelligent woman who has so much to offer this world. Bless her!
th-cam.com/video/18eFIKTVT9A/w-d-xo.html She did not strike me as humble and candid in any capacity in this video. I think she presents herself deceptively in this interview.
Tell this young woman to pick up the pen. They may claim everything on the net is there forever, but how the hell do you find it? Publish!! Damnit Publish!
It really resonates with me how she says that although she is no longer religious, she values the perspective it taught her. I feel extremely similarly. There was a period of hurt and anger towards the belief system when I first left, but now I am so grateful for the perspective and values (the good ones) that I gained because of it.
This is thought-provoking. I've never really contemplated all the good things I was taught through religion, but there were many: treating other people as your "brother" or "sister" and assuming good intent, doing things from ritual and not how you feel / your whim of the day, and overall just community and consistency.
I am the opposite. I was never religious and started to appreciate it and need it in my life. Religion is only bad when other people force it down your throat instead of letting you discover it by your own volition
@@serenityssolace I agree. I should clarify that I still believe in God and pray and find great wisdom in religious texts. I think large scale organized religion is often bad though. Too much power in the hands of a few, and following what they say instead of listening to the source.
Zandile is very impressive. It was fascinating to listen to her wisdom and insight as a South African. Her message must be amplified far and wide. It is refreshing to hear an honest accurate appraisal of reality from an African woman. Patience is another creator who speaks sense. Looking forward to hear more from Zandile, she is so smart and well rounded person.
Interesting conversation, I think this either highlights how differeny CRT is taught or her understanding of it based of her social background. I was introduced to CRT in a Social Justice class in one of the top RSA universities and it didnt teach victimhood nor tiptoeing around issues, if anything my biggest takeaway was that colour blindness is the most racist of ideologies because it refuses to acknowledge the intersectionality of persons and history. There is no monolith of a Black experience but she grew up in white South Africa and already had a self image problem (her own words) she should have found herself first before attempt to find a tribe as thats how you end up being with people who will feed you the wrong ideas and turn you into a parrot activists. We can't discount the value of education in creating the world we want and the overwhelming choices we have now have limited the ability of even the state to actually pursue social programs that benefit the community rather we will be focused on benefit the winners of capitalism. If you enter CRT with a negative lens you'll see bad just like with femist theory or anything else. I just wish we lived in a less PC world so conversations could be had properly so that if someone felt disrespected they could just say it without having to try label the very obvious disrespect they feel so as to teach the aggressor better and also to model their interactions appropriately ie if need be be less sensitive.
My gad YES! Yes, thank you for this eminently sensible comment. These bigoted and weak minded, or yes, insecure people w poor self concepts or poisonous worldviews are blaming IDEAS for making them so. It's absolutely crazy.
CRT teaches that whites are inherently racist and evil (which ironically is racist in and of itself), plenty of so called teachers in this space reinforce these ideas. So of course people will rightfully oppose it.
Being educated and black, despite a few expected moments of bigotry, was overall an advantage. If you are simply competent, people think you are a superstar because expectations are low. However, your mistakes, and we all make them, are always amplified so it is best not to make them or hide them where you can.
"However, your mistakes, and we all make them, are always amplified" An interesting perspective that I hadn't spent enough time considering. Swords are often double-edged, I suppose. Thank you for sharing.
I started uni late, because I started working & traveling, after school. When I decided to return home & go to university, I was so excited because I thought I would meet like- minded people, with a passion for the arts. I'm very open & I get along with everyone & since I worked in all kind of fields, I had to socialize with people from all walks of life. Unfortunately, I had the most miserable time at my art school.
Got master's degree 23 years ago and went back to Uni for Screenwriting degree last year. The kids are nice to me but most of them are so PC. ps. I do most projects alone since I went back for art not politic.
On Zee's point of patience. Currently I'm working through a spousal visa process for my husband to join me in the UK. And two things that strike me as odd when I tell people we live apart, currently. They are shocked that I am standing and not in perpetual mourning. Secondly, they always advise how to work around the system, by having children and that will mean he will get to stay and live here. I cannot imagine explaining to my child you were conceived to get Daddy a passport. All in all, because South African paperwork can be immensely slow, it may take up to a year for the process to complete. It's worth the wait to do things right, get my husband and in the same place with the best mindset and without concerns of cutting corners coming back to bite us. We can also see the end of the road and as a married couple it's really just a tiny blip on the landscape of the rest of our lives together. Technology has made it possible for us to communicate so well, it will never compare being with each other. We get to really sink in and cherish our time with one another. There is a beauty in having patience.
Society is lacking a collective narrative on ethics and a total lack of social cohesion. Religion dominating societies was bad, but at least it gave citizens that bond. So much food for thought in this discussion.
Guys, this has been one of your best interviews I’ve seen in awhile. Ms. Powell is very impressive and well-spoken! Good job, gentlemen, in showcasing her! Thank you!
Well said! Great to see another authentic non-American on the show. Too many more episodes like Neil Tyson would be really bad for my health and sanity.
If this was a honest conversation, Black people did nothing to her, her community did. Her perspective is hers, but she should know “why” she is there.
I am a nearly anti woke person , I was not pro woke , I did not take that much notice , but now I have realized it is as dangerous as far right , we need some middle lane and also some truth in information. ,
I've never enjoyed a Triggernometry episode more! Zee went well beyond CRT and addressed a number of issues: gender roles and desires, intergenerational differences, just to name two. She has so much nuance, she's truly liberal in her judgement, and she articulated so many things I myself struggle to put into words!
I have never been more happy and at peace than the last 4 years since Jesus Christ saved me. I was obsessed with making money, obsessed with my looks and ended up getting a boob job that did not make me happy, bought 2 houses that only briefly gave me joy and was constantly strughling with depression and severe anxiety where I dreaded every morning. I have a loving husband and beautiful daughter but even they couldn't comfort me and give me peace until the night Jesus reached out to me a woman who never ever thought about religion. His love is the only thing that has made me content. Now nothing scares me and haven't had one anxiety attack.
I'm South African in the UK and have felt like I have to teach from 3rd world country. Speech has changed over years to be careful when there are so many honest things and lessons to be told.
I too moved to the UK at 15 and there was a serious mismatch between how I saw myself as a Nigerian and how everyone else saw me. I didn't know what CRT was at the time (2007). I would say Zandile being abandoned by her black community made the negative impact much worse for her...because I drew strength from all the strong, intelligent, black people that have surrounded me all my life.
I think a lot of people underestimate the impact of being immersed in a culture that doesn’t match your outward expression ( I know I did). She is a fascinating individual.
The guest said at the end that we need more philosophy and more forgiveness. Even though I’m a “crusty conservative”, it sounds like we need more Jesus in the world.
This is one of the worst interviews I’ve ever seen. These people are trying to get me to believe the perspective of a woman born in South Africa who was so disconnected from her culture that *SHE DIDN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND* that she was black? This matters because if she doesn’t know the concerns of black people in her community how can she evaluate the usefulness of any kind of theory of relationships between power, race and law, which is the main thrust of CRT? Meanwhile she throws-by insinuation -the entire black community under the bus for her mother’s sins which we know virtually nothing about, but are invited to take the harshest criticism of since it was white people who took her in. Then she critiques an academic theory that she CLEARLY doesn’t understand AT ALL to two people who also don’t understand it. And insinuates again that she understands its application in the US where it originated based on the particular racial challenges in the US. Here’s how we know she doesn’t understand it. First, she’s unable to actually explain it when asked directly. Second, she says in her story that she was told that she was oppressed and got depressed because she didn’t see her almost entirely white upbringing as being oppressive. BUT the words oppressed and oppressor are the names of ELEMENTS in a SYSTEMS MODEL. They aren’t intended to be applied to INDIVIDUAL INSTANCES PEOPLE! They could have labeled them Group A and Group B. Or beneficiary vs disadvantaged. THAT DOESN’T mean that YOU PERSONALLY are either in that category or experience those effects. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing about CRT that implies absence of agency. It is in fact, quite the contrary. I don’t know how this lady got into a political philosophy program at Cambridge, but she does NOT appear do a lot of deep thinking around this stuff.
She said she believed she was oppressed at first, so probably she was seeing it through that lense back then, and later realized she had been indoctrinated a bit and can see other perspectives now on those experiences she had back then
@@octopus4925 Sounds like she’s getting indoctrinated into another world view. At the time, she didn’t talk about belief. She talked about specifics of being undermined at the university and sly remarks by professors. Maybe she made it all up.
Exactly! I'm stunned right now. I'm a black Oxford graduate and I was introduced to her because of her comments about race in Oxbridge. She also spoke at length about the racism she experienced from her adoptive family. I guess she's trying to pivot to a new career, he content has definitely taken an interesting turn recently...
As you guys got bigger I was worried you’d stop doing interviews like this one. I’ve been really enjoying your old conversations with very interesting people I’ve never heard of. Well done lads.
Well said! Great to see another authentic non-American on the show. Too many more episodes like Neil Tyson would be really bad for my health and sanity
@@user-nw3sd2td9l. 👍🏼. Not casting aspersions on all Americans generally - Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury and John McWhorter were all great - but some of your high-profile guys come with so much intellectual baggage !!
Her experience of Critical Race Theory is very interesting. I study Critical Race and Ethnic Studies at a public university in California. I haven’t really learned much about old white men. Perhaps because of the ethnic studies part of my major, I learn more about specific cultures and the history of people and things from a different lens/perspective. I do agree that it can be a very heavy topic that can leave you depressed but the topics that I’ve learned about includes the resilience of people who’ve been oppressed.
As touched on here, social media is causing more problems than anything else. If somebody says something to you at home you disagree with, you can immediately discuss it with them and (usually) understand the context of what they meant. If somebody posts something online, it's all too easy for others to misinterpret it, and then that misinterpretation becomes set in stone as what you meant and no amount of explanation or apology will convince those people otherwise as they'll just accuse you of 'letting the mask slip' or whatever. Also, a lot of people just don't know how to express themselves very well in writing unfortunately.
Racism will never end. Anyone can be racist. Black, white, yellow, brown, alabaster white, charcoal black, dark brown, light brown... it will never ever end.
Race is a purely artificial modern creation proliferated during 17th century European colonialism and conceptualised during the formulation of fascism as an politician philosophy. Before modernity, slavery for example was purely based on power dynamics and not race. Once we abandon Modernity, we can depart with the idea of race.
Correct. Only intellectual Whites with barely any experience traveling or living in different classes are DICTATING this to us. If you have real life experiences, you see this easily, you start to view it as a part of evolution even…it’s part of competition and it definitely has existed throughout history. Stating otherwise simply shouts ignorance and self-importance.
The section 'Have people's identities become too political?' was eye opening for me because it explains something that I could not make sense of with the new generations - in essence the world needs to conform to my expectations. I'm Gen X and fortunately we had existentialism to put our lives in perspective and the idea that what other people think about me is none of my business, and that people could do what they want until they start interefering with my life. Not a perfect view but I did end up having arguments and asserting myself against people I really disagreed with and learning about different people's ways of life. I never expected the world to validate me, my frustration manifested itself in what I built and I didn't descend into tantrums. Anyway, how Zee explains really helps me to understand a behaviour I've witnessed in the culture around me that has baffled me.
@@treacherousjslither6920 It’s part of toxic femininity, also inverted narcissism, some feel we are functioning in a Cluster B reality. You also perfectly highlighted why “cancel culture” or shunning, is a form of weaponized compassion in the way it is being utilized lately. Many of these techniques were also used by Communist countries, they aren’t new; Mao weaponized the youth to turn against the elders (instead of to value their wisdom) as young people are easy to manipulate or brainwash in this way (especially via the educational system); this is demonstrated in fictional works like 1984 and The Red Violin.
My mum was racist til at 84, my big bro and I moved her to be close to us with help from our dear Maori friend and her Maori/Indian sons. A full day's work later I had just mum in my wagon following the truck and an hour into a quiet drive mum suddenly sobbed at the top of her voice "I THOUGHT THEY WERE HORRIBLE!!" Nearly crashed. "What? Who?!" "MY FATHER TOLD ME MAORI WERE HORRIBLE!!". Her father died when she was young, and without social media and with few chances to meet people, she'd believed this since the 1960s 😢 One day getting to know one Maori woman, and my mum realised she was unfairly maligning an entire race her entire life. She sobbed because she was a GOOD person 😢
What a weird situation... To have a racist man taken in his ex-wife's adopted black grandchild. Why? He would hate that she was part of his family but somehow his own sense of obligation to his family extends to Miss Powell. The contradictions in this situation are really hard to reconcile. I find myself admiring the man's sense of family while despising him for his racist beliefs. i am really having a hard time grappling with this.
Wohoo! I thought my nagging about Kidology being a great idea for a guest was deemed futile. She’s a fascinating soul on an adventurous journey, looking forward to this!
Watching Kidology on TRIGGERnometry I made the right life choices :) Almost every sentence she said - you can have a full-hour conversation about it. So many great realizations.
As an American - I am most embarrassed for my country over only two things, really. 1. Exporting Wokeness and 2. Exporting transgender ideology. To the rest of the world, we apologize. Having said that, I also believe a lot of that has been exported by China by way of Tiktok, and by the Left taking over universities, training up a generation of completely messed up teachers, who are now trying to take over our primary education as well. Not everything in the world is defined by race, and that wasn't even the case here in the US, until social media took some really stupid ideas and put them on greased ice skates going downhill.
The interaction starting around 13:00 is why the left dosent fuk with kidology. The existence of 100 black millionaires, out of 45 million blacks, does not disprove a disproportionate amount of pressure being placed specifically on blacks as a result of institutionalized discrimination. Its literally just your personal antidote. I live in Atlanta, black mecca as somesay, i know what black success and wealth looks like.
I sat in an early childhood conference 2019 in Melbourne Australia where the audience were told, "If you are born white, then you automatically have a privileged life over aboriginal people" This I believe was a racist statement towards people who have light skin having grown up in the 60's from a vulnerable family circumstances. Also telling anyone they are a victim is the worst possible thing someone can do to another person and it almost feels like a power struggle.
I never really understood this need for an "identity", especially when it is centred around the most superficial things as though you are creating a video game character. Actually as I wrote that last sentence, it began to make sense, given the amount of time people spend online, that they think they need an avatar for life. Just be, you don't need to pick teams.
Thing is, no matter how hard she worked to get the place at Cambridge the current equality culture will mean it looks like she got it as part of positive discrimination and lower grades (because apparently the left thinks black people aren't capable of good grades), once she graduates when she gets a good job it'll be seen as due to quota's, then every promotion she gets 'or doesn't get' will be due to race. That's the curse, outside of the wealthy most groups accomplishments had to be earned and are seen as their own an intelligent/hardworking black person like a rich person's accomplishments will always be put down to privilege and look undeserved and drowned out by those who's were. Wish her all the luck.
I'm a black Oxford graduate who grew up working class and the only people who have ever accused me of being a beneficiary of affirmative action were generationally wealthy people with multiple ancestors who had attended the university...
As a white Xennial who was on the left until about 2016 and started getting all the talk of unconscious bias and microaggressions at work, in all honesty it has done nothing positive for my interactions with people who aren't white. These ideas weren't really a thing when i was at university in the late 90s and i remember happily including all kinds of people in my social groups from all kinds of backgrounds. And yet between university and my mid 30s i internalised all this guilt and fear about unconscious bias and microaggressions and the like that it got to a point i started avoiding people based on their race which i had never done before because i'd become terrified of saying and doing the wrong thing out of my ignorance. And even now in my mid 40s i'm still struggling to get that fear out of my brain a decade later so that i can just talk to people again the way i did in my teens and early 20s.
I experienced similar feelings, of that kind of fear. Stopped listening to those negative voices and was able to relax around blacks and have authentic pure relationships. You have to believe the best about yourself. Being a Christian helped me weed out all the lies.
just talk to people without micro agression omg why is it such a big deal for you because you are black? Like Im African, but when I talk to my asian friends Im just acting noraml, why the need to fear to say something you shouldn't? If you fear it is it because you know you would do it or?
I’m so so happy to see my favourite TH-camr on my favourite podcast! I’m so proud of her for this first foot into the door, many more doors are to open soon, congratulations, Kid!
What an absolutely amazing guest! Thoroughly enjoyed hearing this young woman speak 👌 👏👏. I still can't get over how she was sent away at 13, with a days notice to the other side of the world to live with someone who despised black people, and seems to be undamaged by her challenging experiences😳, and refuses to be classed as a victim.
As a survivor of a dysfunctional, violent family living in foster care and having a degree in psychology, social work and counselling, I have NEVER bought into critical race theory, social justice theory or any ideology pushing a victim agenda. Empowering oneself means accepting responsibility, believing in your self-empowering narrative, believing in the fact that you own your own destiny, that nobody has power over your story like you do. I REFUSE to use critical race theory in my practice. It has filtrated universities, companies, schools. I could not find a single course to further my studies that is not pushing critical race theory. For TRUE victims of abuse of any race, these university programmes are very stressful and take away people's power. Imagine the damage this does to a victim of abuse - sitting them down controlling the narrative, punishing decent, denying your reality, forcing you to buy into an abusive self-hating narrative , threatening exclusion, forcing to play along with a fantasty you know is untrue and taking away your ability to challenge and assert oneself etc.These are a the hallmarks of abuse. They mimic the experiences from abusive relationships and can be incredibly traumatic. The whole critical race theory programme is abusive in itself! This young lady is a true example of someone who knows true challenges but most importantly - she has accepted her challenges. I am not suprised she is not buying it - struggling often produces minds that are incredibly independent and are less dependent on affirmation.
I am so grateful to this wonderful fellow South African. What a fantastic woman! As a white African it makes me feel like her words give me voice. Thank you.
I agree with her that young men are “impatient” when it comes to they’re life paths. But what the young women are right in dating is that it’s not the women’s responsibility to solve that for the young men. Men are not entitled to rescue by women. At all.
Seeing your whole world through the lens of race, harkens back to tribal times when other tribes were truly different. We all live together now, and I think we're doing a good job considering the Human tendency to fear the "other".
The truth is difficult, does that mean we should ignore it? If you're disgnosed with cancer, the diagnosis could make you depressed. Does that mean you should pretend you don't have cancer?
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CHAPTERS👇
00:00 Intro
01:22 Zandile’s Background
08:11 Why Was Claiming Victimhood So Distressing?
09:33 The Conflicting Values in England & South Africa
11:48 An Outsider Perspective on How Race is Perceived in the West
15:13 What Are the Real Race Problems That Are Being Ignored?
17:22 Have People's Identities Become Too Political?
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24:02 The Issue With People Denying Their Agency by Claiming Victimhood
30:58 How Was Critical Race Theory Taught at Cambridge?
36:53 What Are The Challenges Faced by Gen Z as a Result of the Internet?
39:47 What Will Anti-Woke Culture Look Like in the Future?
43:01 Sponsor Message: Locals
44:04 The Current State of Men & Women
47:34 Healthy Role Models For Men
48:34 The Impact of Social Media on Young Women
53:10 What it Means to be the Best Version of Ourselves
57:46 The Lack of Understanding Between Generations
1:03:16 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
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the woke ideology (fat acceptance, 3rd wave feminism, social justice) is just satanism in disguise... the religion of self... viewing existence from the perspective of self vs viewing it as being part of a system, the universe (what i do effects you, what you do effects me, together we are a system)
those 3 ideologies are exactly the same... swap out minority/majority with men/women then with fat/thin and you just went from social justice to fat acceptance and 0 of the arguments need to change
(social justice, feminism, fat acceptance)
1. convince you you're different
2. convince you you're a victim because of that difference
3. convince you to act selfishly and take from this world, now that you feel like you're getting back something you've lost, something stolen from you, it's a scam, and a cult
(satanism)
1. convince you are not part of the universe, you are alone, you are a single being external of the universe, the universe is acting upon you, not with you
2. convince you since the universe contains evil, it is the source of your suffering and is inescapable
3. convince you to act in your own self interest, because now you feel like you have an abuser, and refuse to see what you really are, 1/infinity of this universe, we are one
the reason why the woke agenda will eventually have you arguing for segregation (as we've already seen on college campuses) is because segregation benefits the perspective of self, as people segregate they reproduce with their own race, and that makes the boxes they can put your children in by their race more defined and clearer, they don't want race mixing because that blurs the boxes, it's far more difficult to convince you to hate white people if one of your parents are white
it's paramount that they get "multi-cultural centers" up on college campuses, this is peak time of finding mates and reproducing, it's a direct effort to keep students from race mixing
this is bad because loneliness is misery, it hinders evolution, reproducing with someone far different than your unique self helps us evolve, we shouldn't just be race mixing, we should be dating from all corners of the planet to mix our dna as much as possible
this perspective of self is hindering our own evolution and making everyone miserable and their religion is wokeism, it's how they spread their abuse and keep us enslaved... it's making the system we're all a part of weaker
and what does this abuse create?
some people don't like pride for the same reason why convicts in prison k**l pe***philes... they blame their entire life on them and they have a pretty good argument if they were m***lested by one
"isn't it beautiful when mortal enemies like g@y people and the church get along to m**est more kids?" ~george carlin
disclaimer: i am g@y (from childhood s***ual assault) and like most real g@y people, i'm not in love with other g@y people just because they're g@y... i show them compassion but i'm also careful around them because what they're capable of, they're familiar with pure evil (they're childhood s**ual assault victims and possible abusers themselves)
the real g@y lifestyle isn't depicted on netflix... 40+ years old, single, degrading yourself to "get with" the youngest guys you can find because your brain is forcing you back to your trauma so you can remember it, meanwhile you get more depressed, fear aging, and live in misery alone... the g@y lifestyle is not glamorous, happy, it's not full of bright colors and parades... it's not a fairy tale, it's a lifestyle where the foundation is abuse, if not, please explain to me how lesbian relationships are also the most abusive relationships you can get into, and trans has the highest s**ide rate... when g@y men abuse each other they just call it "sex" in the form of shoving stuff up each other's a**es while they cheat on each other
if you support fat acceptance or the lgbt lifestyle or even social justice then you are unknowingly supporting abuse victims to remain in an abusive situation of permanent victimhood for no reason, and then celebrate it, pride is a joke... the government and the corporations that run our government are more than happy to make pride a month so you can revel your abuse, roll around in it like a pig in slop by dancing through the streets in your underwear
we actually encourage our child s** abuse victims to dance around in the streets in their underwear when they reach adulthood... think about that :/ ... have they not suffered enough humiliation?
there's a difference between having compassion for the abused (lgbt people) and excusing abusive behavior (the g@y lifestyle, wokeism/satanism) which does nothing but spread more abuse, it's a vicious circle of abuse masquerading as a fun and loving experience full of support
the path of happiness begins when you realize this universe isn't abusing you... you're abusing yourself 💕
@triggerpod why do you have some random african woman speaking on something she knows nothing about. She is not a Foundational Black American and she does not know the history of America. This is not a theory, dunno why whites try to trivialize the truth.
*"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Get Patience Xina on. She's really articulate. And Brett who runs "The Comment Section". Both young and anti-woke.
Why dont you say v'eye-tuh-mins? Or maybe the question is why don't we Americans say vihta-mins? Tomato tomato I guess.
Red Summer
Black Wallstreet
Blockbusting
Steering
Race based Veterans Administration Loans
Jim Crow
Segregation
Redlining
Batson Rule
Black Codes
The list goes on and on
Joe Biden/Bill Clinton crime laws
She popped up on my feed a year ago and was the only woman talking about loneliness. She really spoke to me. She’s smart, articulate, compassionate and introspective
@Seevawonderloaf 3 people in the same room who the UK could do with running the country instead of the muppets we have now👍
what video was this if i may ask?
I love that she takes a moment to think. Not everyone has the confidence to think before they speak without feeling pressure to spout trite nothing-statements.
Growing up I’d always get talked over from pausing so I have a habit of trying to be quick when saying something. If I can get over the fear of loosing people’s attention, that would give me so much peace. Thanks for the reminder
@@ambersummer2685 You're not alone, that's why most people make instinctively some kind of "hmmmm" sound
@@ambersummer2685I can relate. My solution is to quickly tell people, "just let me take a moment to formulate my thought on this...."
I had the exact same thought
Glad I’m not the only one that noticed this.
I’m the white daughter of a brown man, and although everyone is talking race (and being racist) the true political & social division is CLASS.
This idea is what got MLK killed
By talking about race, it takes up any space to talk about class.
100%. They're using identity to hide THEIR privilege and wanting to protect it !!
Exactly, but the powers that be wouldn't want every one to know that; as we'd all start working together, instead of against one another.
Yes!!!!!!
It's funny, all of my bullying nightmares, came from Black women. Granted we were young and I'm not putting this on race....but it goes to show just because they are Black or any certain color, doesn't mean they are for you. Please look at people individually, not as a collective.
No, speak your truth! I am a black woman and have experienced the same. Black women can be down right vicious...
I've been bullied by the entire rainbow 😢 black women, white, Indian... race definitely doesn't limit bullying. I'm glad you're speaking up bc people act like only white people can bully and it invalidates everyone else who had different experiences!
@@Seevawonderloaf exactly! It is a human condition…
@@SeevawonderloafI've honestly never heard anyone say only white ppl can bully. Thats a new one to add to the list.
@@Blakmagic88all women can it’s a human thing not a black thing obviously
Imagine getting into one of the most exclusive universities in the world, to then be told that you're a victim.
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At Yale, BLM students were chanting “the only thing we have to lose is our chains”. These are the most privileged, lucky people on earth. The one percent of the one percent of the one percent of the world. These are the people talking with communist slogans? I’m willing to bet you dinner at the finest restaurant in town that they didn’t know that they were chanting communist slogans.
@@jasondashney That is truly mind boggling. I assume that Yale is of the same calibre as Harvard and Princeton.
I guess that the indoctrination has been going on for a long time now.
@@localbod Yale is on the same level as Harvard and Princeton. In the garbage bin. They have all embraced it.
@@AhidoMikaro something that Drop out Billionaires would say
Imagine thinking those two things are necessarily mutually exclusive 😂
Growing up, some of the biggest bullies were by other black people- particularly girls. Yet, some of the most supportive people outside of my family were Asian and White.
Thankyou
The only most overtly racist person I've spent significant time with over the years was a young black woman. She was a co-worker and let's just say she spoke very poorly of certain African Americans.
I'm black and grew up around white people in the suburbs, so I basically learned quickly that some of them were cool and others were not.... just like everyone else.
I went to a pre-college program for minorities entering my University during which someone else in that program, a black girl, tried to make a fool of me during a group project. Since that experience, I knew that joining groups that focused on race over ideas/interests/activities was not for me. I wish that the young lady featured here could have realized sooner that skin color really has little to do with who you are as a person and could have avoided her depression, but I'm glad she was able to eventually get out of that dark place.
People just refuse to acknowledge the fact that race has nothing to do with anything. I'm as white as they come and the most friction I've ever gotten was when I was a kid in an immigrant camp in the early 80s. And it was from people from the former Czechoslovakia. I was born in Hungary. The first black kid I ever met (in Canada. There weren't any behind the iron curtain) picked a fight with me and the second stuck up for me. Yeah, that taught me a quick lesson as it comes to race: people are people and color has nothing to do with the quality of a person. It doesn't make you a victim or an oppressor either. So let's just get on with it and focus on important things.
supporting black people is white supremacy. classic case.
Shes the rare combination of high intelligence and high thoughtfulness
which makes this world so unbearable to live in 😥
Not really, if you are high in intelligence you are going to be thoughtful. The two go together.
@@MrAmbrosse you couldn't be more wrong. I know plenty of high IQ people who are extremely unwise and unreflective
@MrAmbrosse intelligence and thoughtfulness are not synonymous. I know many highly intelligent people who rink far to much of themselves and are actually not very thoughtful at all.
She is fantastic!
Racism is taught. We are teaching people to be racist today. 30 years ago, we were teaching people not to be racist. it's pretty sad.
Diversity = divide and rule
It really is as simple as that, and yet some have real trouble understanding it.
Britain is such a racist country - as is shown by the fact that the prime minister and lots of cabinet ministers are not white.
race isnt even real. its taught to divide and conquer the world for the ones who are really in control
Absolutely. When I was young my parents as well as my school constantly ingrained into me that you judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Just like Martin Luther King Jr said. It was one of the overarching themes for me as a kid growing up in the 90's. I could not have ignored it if I tried. But nowadays I get called a racist bigot just because of my skin color. Its vile.
I’m in my 40s. It’s becoming more clear to me that young people these days are struggling in ways that many of us could have never imagined. I had no concept of any of this stuff when I was her age.
It didn't exist when you was her age.
He'll I'm not even 30 (yet, and holding onto my 20's for dear life) and it wasn't an issue when I was her age.
We keep getting told there will be pushback, a backlash, a pendulum swing, but I've been waiting fifty years and it never happens. This, is I believe what's needed.
Because they've become addicted to social media and smartphones. The only solution is to stop using both.
It is being taught to divide the society, so their parameters can take over!
Whilte versus black.
Men versuswomen
Straight versus queer
Old versus young
Etc
They want to destroy our society.
Im 46 and i agree 💯. I don't understand any of it.
Viewing everything through a racial lense of victimhood and illogical BS would make anyone miserable. Misery that can easily be blamed on 'racism,' creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
What is victimhood????
@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 its like childhood, but you never grow out of it.
That's why there are so many who are suicidal. There's only so much being punched in the face by reality every day that someone can take. But some people just don't wake up from the Marxcist cults.
I have friends with parents from overseas, who've gone down the critical race rabbit hole and become extremely miserable and vindictive. All it does is teach you to feel envious, ungrateful and victimised, in spite of all the benefits that come with living in a wealthy, first wold liberal democracy.
You have CRT derangement syndrome. CRT is only touched upon on law studies in US college.
I understand why CRT is taught because it used to be the opposite for a long time but yeah teaching people to be miserable and internalize past events is counterproductive to their growth and development as people
You mean racism makes them sad.
Lol totally. Like how Kamala Harris, whose dad taught economics at Stanford, and whose mom was was a PhD holding biomedical researcher, can try and paint herself as some kind of marginalized victim.
Omg this was me
I am white and grew up in abject poverty, with uneducated parents and at the whims of misogynistic, narcissistic caregiving. We had nothing, but I didn't realise. Everyone around us had the grace not to make it plainly known.
That was my salvation - not getting to build a sense of self around being hard done by.
Ignorance is bliss huh?
Robert Sapolsky would probably say that you were endowed, at birth, with a really good pre frontal cortex that has allowed you an advantage that your circumstances did not, for self reflection and critical thinking. I hope you had a little luck along the way as well. Sapolsky puts a lot of faith in a little luck to counteract otherwise difficult hurdles of family and environment that might have given one a difficult start in life. My own experience tells me he’s correct. Best of luck!😊
@@treacherousjslither6920 Look at that compassion, everybody ~ 😊
I appreciate Kidology so much because she is actually willing to think about her answers a bit before answering and walk listeners through her thought process on how she's arrived at something. I also love that she is willing to admit fault and change her mind on things with zero sign of ego. She has a very composed thought process.
I adore Kidology. Lovely to see her on here, she deserves a bigger audience.
No. She is a dead-eyed, narcissistic ideologue with no solutions except to double down on the problems her beliefs are causing.
She's got it right about CRT; I wonder if she'll have a similar awakening about feminism?
Kidology is chock full the of exactly the sort of intersectional identity politics victimhood that she spends this interview speaking out against.
@@patrickbarnes9874 I don't t think so man, have you even watched her videos?
@@patrickbarnes9874she’s the perfect subject to fully fall for the victimhood narrative and yet she quite literally doesn’t ascribe to it. she’s refreshingly impartial in most of her videos.
@@patrickbarnes9874Have you ever seen any of her videos or you just wanted the attention?
First off YAAAAAAAY FOR KIDDDDDD! Second off, yaaaaay for actually learning her real name since we all just call her Kid! 😂😂❤❤❤🎉🎉
👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤
i wonder why she decided to share her full name now
She’s a thinker. Very reflective, deep mind. Mind blown. Especially since she’s so young still. Very impressed.
She really is, I highly recommend her TH-cam channel, she's amazing!
The sad thing is, many would rather believe themselves to be victims than do what this young woman did and continue pushing through the lies, no matter how hard it got. Critical thinking is not part of the collective mind.
Well said !!!
The collective mind is entirely hostile to critical thinking.
It works both ways m’am a collective effort from both sides …in order for the brainwashing to work black people need to believe they are oppressed and white people need to believe that too! Also she was only able to critically think cause of her upbringing, not every black poor person can make it to Cambridge or having white loving parents ..so I think we all need to critically understand how she’s an exception
The issue is the people who oppose science and logic, not the collective mind. Critical thinking is part of the collective mind, you are just exposed to those who lack it.
It’s always easy to say if you’re not from the receiving end but I hear you
If it made you miserable - then it was doing one of it's intended jobs.
Gents, see if you can get Thomas Sowell on to talk about his new book...he utterly ruins all the social justice nonsense...
Much of his new book is made up of things he already observed 30 years ago. Because he is always about 30 years ahead of the rest of us.
The parallel in this video is of the young black guy who thought it would be pointless joining the air force, because the us air force "would never hire a black guy"... Years after numerous black fighter pilots had already been appointed.
If you've ever seen a chat between billionaire Oprah Winfrey, and royal princess Markle, you will see that it is possible to persuade absolutely anyone that they are a victim.
I was pleasantly surprised to see Sowell come out of retirement and do an interview with the Hoover Institute.
He's 93 years old, so I hope the Trig lads get him on as soon as possible.
Trig has hosted some big names, but Thomas Sowell won't be one of them, would be great, but not happening.
the way I see this horrible theory is it is forcing people to feel history, not just read it and understand the facts but to carry some sort of emotional response or you're heartless or some crap. so yeah, it is an intended job of the theory to feel miserable so that some grifters can offer a service that "heals" but obviously traps you in a cycle that makes you miserable.
Have you guys had Gothix on yet?
Get Survive the Jive on too.
Imagine being at one of the most exclusive and expensive univercities in the world, who are probably in the top percentage of wealth and class, and being told you are some how oppressed. It makes no sense, and yet they believe it. Its baffling to me. If you were really oppressed, you wouldnt be at that school, nor even have any sort of education. You would live in a hovel in abject poverty.
Exactly. USA elected a black (well, half black) man as president. Which means the majority of USA citizens who voted chose him. Yet overall we are still considered racist! It is baffling.
They believe it because they WANT to believe it. They know it gives them a leg up and the ones who accept that already happy about it. Simple as that
To be fair oppression isnt always just insitutional. There is social ways to oppress others. Look at the woman who got beat up for having canerow. The whole cultural appropriation thjng is social but still very oppresive. One Youtuebee commentor said when she was pregnant and wearing her Viet husbands traditional outfit she got stabbed in the belly for wearing it. Oppression is subjective.
@@DarkAngel2512random acts do not equate to oppression. Also, random acts are committed in all directions. Oppression is being held down. Unable to live one's life freely. That is not reality in the west.
You can go to a fancy school and still be oppressed in some way. Race, class, sex, religion, nationality etc. You can have your fancy education but not be allowed to vote because you're a woman or you won't be hired because you're not a particular demographic etc.
Zee is wise beyond her years. Hope she stays strong and true.
I had an eye opening experience that made me wonder if a seed had been planted in my mind of being racially targeted, how every day interactions would appear in a way as validation even when things we quite innocent or innocuous.
Example;
This has happened to me a few times, which my perspective is what kept me from taking it the wrong way.
When at the deli or meat counter waiting my turn, I’m often overlooked and the person who walked up after me gets called upon.
Had I been a darker skin tone, this would solidify my belief of being mistreated and targeted for my color.
However, I know as someone who’s worked behind the counter early in life that shorter people are sometimes not seen by the employees. Especially if you stand near the scale on top the counter, my head is completely blocked from their site.
Most people when getting called before me, will speak up, point to me and say “this lady was here before me.”
But not all. Some simply aren’t paying attention and occasionally they’re just opportunistic and A holes.
Which happens in all races.
Had this happened to someone of color, it would be micro aggression or something else sinister to confirm their own biases of being treated inferior to others.
As long as the seed is planted, it will grow.
I don’t think this is entirely by accident. I believe it’s it’s intentional by some. Not all, but definitely some
The micro aggression,you speak of is because they are paranoid because they like opening bottles and spitting in your drink on supermarket shelves I always wondered about in my lifetime when I hear blk people said I don't eat nothing I don't prepare myself
These days I wouldn't eat or ask for anything a blk person has served/made
And then the seed is planted that anyone who is not black can be labelled a racist for even looking at someone I'm what is deemed the wrong way. They want us divided, i don't who they is, my opinion it's Russia and China, using social media to cause division using the algorithm against us, then the useful idiots do the rest.
I remember asking the lady at my local shop how her family were back home, I wasn't going to incase it came across as offensive, this was at the start of COVID, anyway the smile that came across her face was so wide, she was genuinely touched that I asked. We can't let them divide us.
Brilliant take. From another angle, as a codependent, I often assumed people didn't like me when sometimes they would act awkward around me, etc. What I came to understand was that sometimes they just admired me so much that they felt intimidated by me, as some told me. We can never know what's in someone else's mind.
I think Bret Weinstein came up with this example:
A black and a white person go into a shop at the same time. If the clerk serves the black person first she's desperate to get them out of the shop therefore racist. If she serves the white person first she's showing favouritism therefore racist.
What is claimed to be racism these days is mostly life is difficult, isn't always fair and people make mistakes or are sometimes just rude to everyone.
I thought this as well. You tell someone, "you're a victim and any tiny inconvenience you experience is actually racism" then people experience tiny inconveniences and assume it's racism. And then if you and your peers start to vocalize that, people around you start thinking that people in your demographic are terrible people, which causes them to actually treat you differently, which is more proof of racism.... Self-fulfilling prophecy.
She's amazingly articulate and also funny. I like her❤
Great episode. The colourblindness of race (not being able to ask where you're from) is so regressive, like Zee mentioned. Usually when people ask that they're curious about your background, they want to hear your story and experiences but now if you ask "Where are you from?" you're labelled a racist. I work with a black man from South Africa and a few people from Asian countries are on my team and he's always asking about where they're from, in particular the types of food they cook. It's genuine curiousity and is completely fine and opens people up about who they are and where they came from. Is he a racist for focusing on that? Of course not.
Australia here: I'm an Indigenous Aussie and much of Zandile's commentary rings true for me. Even calling myself indigenous 'Australian' has resulted in some pretty woeful racism even with my family. But life is good... Just keep away from engaging too much in social media!
If you feel comfortable sharing, I would be interested to hear your view on The Voice.
@tommysmith7031 in short I'm voting No however if Yes wins then so be it and hopefully we can manage something constructive. My main reason for no is I feel some (and often those who seek power) will do their all to disrupt progress (constant high court battles) and use their platform to build on division. Some of my mob HATE all the time. That's all they know. But most don't - we just need to help calm those like that down.
@@johncandy6508 Thanks for sharing :)
@@johncandy6508
Good to see a fellow indigenous Australian commenting here. A lot of us are just trying to get on with our own lives without racial identity politics.
@vinnieriley7227 5 years ago I honestly thought all this hate was behind us.
I studied social work and the same happened to me, it made me so depressed, I'd have been good at the job but the race theory and feminism stuff made me feel ill, I do construction work now and it's harder but my mental health is better
Omg same! I ended up dropping out because it just made me so angry and to not trust anyone. I recognized how toxic that was.
@@Nutmeg142 yeah I hear you, I was a support worker and I wanted to level up so I thought social work was the obvious choice but the politics were too toxic for me, a part of me wanted to stay and fight it and get my own side across but I think I'd have lost, I'm not even suited to construction work but the people are more healthy
@@liam.4454 academics would never believe it, but the trades is where you find the most open-minded people. That’s because you’re allowed to speak freely. It definitely leans a bit conservative but worst case scenario is somebody rolling their eyes and telling you you are a dumb ass. They will make fun of you, and then ask where you wanna go for lunch. How hard you work and how easy you are to get along with matters so much more than anything else to people who do actual real work for a living. In the trades your performance is what matters. There’s no room for bigotry when you get paid by what you actually produce. Your boss doesn’t care what you look like if you outperform everybody else. And if you know your business inside and out then you can start your own company and make good money. It’s a meritocracy.
@@jasondashneyyeah it's way more healthy, 90% of the time, the only areas where social care is healthier is, it's easier to get a day off if I have an appointment and it's rare to see someone get shouted at, but a lot of that is down to the fact that people are lazier and more passive aggressive
Even in terms of race, construction is less politically correct but people will mix, with critical race theory and academics, there's a huge divide with people
I decided not to study because every course I looked at was riddled with it. EVEN the proffessional bodies are littered with it!
"The internet allows you to live in the delusion" This amazing woman should speak to every young person on earth today and teach them to see the delusion that they are living in. I am literally blown away by Zee and her powerful clear headed nature. Thank you.
Delusion is the best description I’ve ever heard of it!!
I've been following Kidology's/Zee's content for a while now and find her so refreshing and sincere. I'm so glad this gifted girl is getting noticed by more people 🤗
If most young people were as wise as this lady the future would be bright and secure.
I have a solution that will solve ALL of your problems in America with regards to race. But we need some people to volunteer as tribute.
Er, no. She is just fine with this society being wrecked by feminism.
She's going to get a rude awakening when she hits the wall, and young men are no longer willing to destroy themselves and their interests for her.
@@jimluebke3869MEN ARE THE WALL.
@@suezcontours6653 Not sure what you mean by that. Care to elaborate?
@@jimluebke3869 You know why MEN keep telling women with massive body counts lose their value? BECAUSE MEN are the object that lesser value to humanity. Women are born with inherent value in that they create life. The more MEN that she comes in contact with the MORE they lessen her. MEN ARE THE WALL that women hit.
When I first arrived in the UK, I was treated so well by everyone at my university but something always felt off and I wasn't sure what it was, until another black woman joined our classes and then I began to see it all for myself.
These "friends" of mine didn't want to be my friend because of me, I was essentially a trophy to them, something for them to collect and parade around their other friends, like the latest Pokemon.
I saw how they treated the other black girl and sickened me. It was all smiles, love, tolerance with lots and LOTS of anti-racist platitudes, until they realised that I was not happy about the collecting of black friends just to say they had black friends and when I saw through their dishonesty, I realised this was the exact same stunt they'd done with me.
One day I was asked to join an *Auntie-Fay protest and when I said that I didn't want to get involved with that, they called me nasty names (some racialized) but the real eye opener was I was unwilling to "stand against Trump" that time he came to the UK and I made the big mistake of saying that he made me laugh and that I didn't think he was all that bad.
Ironically, the people they demonized and whom they liked to call fash were the only ones I found who treated me with genuine kindness and didn't just want to be my friend because of my skin colour.
Out of that small group of friends, the only one whom still talks to me today is M******, the other black girl whom eventually also got shunned.
While I didn't get involved with CRT like Zee did, my "friends" have and they've become such horrid people, to this day, I see them on social media and it is all virtue-signalling lies. If I was anything like them, I'd expose them for what they truly are but I am just not wired that way.
Thanks for reading. ❤
_* wouldn't be visible with the true name in there_
I could understand them "collecting" friends if they were interested in your culture. I study Korean and likewise Koreans come here to study English so we mutually levitate to each other for that first-hand eperience and mutual interest. But if its just done to somehow prove youre not racist then as you say that eventually will show because these ppl dont act normal. My colleague is woke and I cant stand it. She often brings up race and says what black ppl supposedly find offensive despite her claims dont match my reality around black ppl. I have a sneaking suspicion she has had fuck all black friends in her life and is somehow trying to virtue-signal over me who actually has. Like she thinks she's edcuating me somehow. I now just let her waffle and dont pull her up on stuff as the last time I tried to correct her she wasnt having it about something I knew for a fact she was wrong on. And she walks around in clothing with black political messages. I sometimes get worried when ppl like that come into my work. Another guy had the t-shirt that had the "make racists/homophobes etc afraid again". Or when ppl with pronoun badges come in because activists especially those who wear it literally as a badge if honour are likely the type to get me fired for Fbk posts.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Sickens me how our univercity's have been hyjacked.
@@DarkAngel2512 I thought that they were genuinely interested in me but as time went on, more and more I realised that it was all about the number of black friends they could boast about. It is very strange behaviour.
I literally caught them counting how many they had on facebook and they were all comparing with one another. This went on for an age, where we'd meet up for lunch and suddenly one would bring their phone out and say something like 'Oh look what I got today, 2 new black friends' then turning her phone around showing them to everyone and then some responding with, 'ah, I'm so jealous, what's their details, I'll see if I can be friends too.' It was utterly ridiculous. for the longest time, I thought they were doing this to test me for something but that wasn't it, they truly seemed to believe this made them good people or perhaps protection against the current environment, I am not sure.
there is so much more to share, that equals around 5% but the funny thing is, so many people think it is some sort of humble brag on my part and therefore don't believe me at first but it absolutely was not, it gave me the creeps and still does when I think back.
My advice to you regarding your colleague is to get as far away from them as possible because they WILL become a problem for you at some point down the road. I sympathise with you, just know you're not alone.
anyway, thank you for responding.
@@carmengiles456 As I was still new to the UK at that time, I just thought it was a huge cultural difference between us but thankfully, that turned out not to be the case when I discovered outside of uni, it was far more grounded in reality.
Thank you for reading. It means a lot.
This happens so often. It's really sad. Thank you for sharing. Glad you quickly saw through their toxic virtue signalling ❤❤
Impressive young woman, what an incredible individual! She's really seen both worlds, quite literally. White South Africa, black Cambridge elites, white working class colleagues, on top of that her incredible history of growing up in foster care, plus religious philosophy and woke philosophy.
Excellent Lady! Could GB News not hire her to do an apprenticeship doing some short spots & interviews on the show formerly know as 'The Dan Wooton Show'? It would drive the wokies absolutely crazy to be accused of 'racism' & 'misogyny' themselves when they try to label her as 'White Supremacist Adjacent' or one of their other mad insults.
Hell yes! GBNews needs people like her, intelligence makes her very photogenic.
Gb news is being targeted by ofcom. Ofcom are working for the establishment. As you’ve seen you’re not ‘allowed to talk truth if it goes against the agenda
Superb young lady! She shatters the new woke paradigm. It's communist indoctrination.
GB news is past tense. Besides she's not rude enough.
@@DeanCowanyeah. GB is failing because many of the presenters arent professional and I couldn't stomach it. I love Andrew and Merci. Some of the others are decent peeps but not who I watch.
She’s right, we don’t have any allegiance to each other. We actually are in direct competition over money and resources.
Wasn't that always the case
@@grannyannie2948 It depends. It's a lot easier for that to be the case in a frightened society where your general goodness is weaponized against you. When you feel like you cannot afford to be kind because you will be harmed/betrayed/used etc it makes people behave more selfishly as a survival method. People become sociopathic.
That is exactly the post-modernist neo-Marxist mixture that stems from modern philosophy and has been dominating the Western academia she claims to oppose in this interview. How does that make sense?
@@brosephbroheim6428Welcome to Britain, a sociopath's wet dream.
Thomas Hobbs be like: I told you so.
This guest is lovely. I like how she is so humble & candid. I appreciate people who are willing to admit their mistakes & shortcomings, because it helps other people learn from them. I am glad that she has since gotten better emotionally. She seems like a really intelligent woman who has so much to offer this world. Bless her!
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She did not strike me as humble and candid in any capacity in this video. I think she presents herself deceptively in this interview.
I am a longtime follower of her's. Kidology is one of the best video essayists on TH-cam and a true free thinker divorced from partisan politics.
Tell this young woman to pick up the pen. They may claim everything on the net is there forever, but how the hell do you find it?
Publish!! Damnit Publish!
It really resonates with me how she says that although she is no longer religious, she values the perspective it taught her. I feel extremely similarly. There was a period of hurt and anger towards the belief system when I first left, but now I am so grateful for the perspective and values (the good ones) that I gained because of it.
This is thought-provoking. I've never really contemplated all the good things I was taught through religion, but there were many: treating other people as your "brother" or "sister" and assuming good intent, doing things from ritual and not how you feel / your whim of the day, and overall just community and consistency.
I am the opposite. I was never religious and started to appreciate it and need it in my life. Religion is only bad when other people force it down your throat instead of letting you discover it by your own volition
@@serenityssolace I agree. I should clarify that I still believe in God and pray and find great wisdom in religious texts. I think large scale organized religion is often bad though. Too much power in the hands of a few, and following what they say instead of listening to the source.
@@violetblythe6912 It’s easy to see how “woke” has also turned into a religious cult that we are indoctrinating children into.
Zandile is very impressive. It was fascinating to listen to her wisdom and insight as a South African. Her message must be amplified far and wide. It is refreshing to hear an honest accurate appraisal of reality from an African woman. Patience is another creator who speaks sense. Looking forward to hear more from Zandile, she is so smart and well rounded person.
Yes would be good to see Patience Xina on this
She's beautiful and succinctly aware of of the problem's in our current society. We really do need more people like her.
She has no solutions. In fact, her idea of "independence" for women is the root of these problems.
Interesting conversation, I think this either highlights how differeny CRT is taught or her understanding of it based of her social background. I was introduced to CRT in a Social Justice class in one of the top RSA universities and it didnt teach victimhood nor tiptoeing around issues, if anything my biggest takeaway was that colour blindness is the most racist of ideologies because it refuses to acknowledge the intersectionality of persons and history. There is no monolith of a Black experience but she grew up in white South Africa and already had a self image problem (her own words) she should have found herself first before attempt to find a tribe as thats how you end up being with people who will feed you the wrong ideas and turn you into a parrot activists. We can't discount the value of education in creating the world we want and the overwhelming choices we have now have limited the ability of even the state to actually pursue social programs that benefit the community rather we will be focused on benefit the winners of capitalism.
If you enter CRT with a negative lens you'll see bad just like with femist theory or anything else. I just wish we lived in a less PC world so conversations could be had properly so that if someone felt disrespected they could just say it without having to try label the very obvious disrespect they feel so as to teach the aggressor better and also to model their interactions appropriately ie if need be be less sensitive.
My gad YES! Yes, thank you for this eminently sensible comment.
These bigoted and weak minded, or yes, insecure people w poor self concepts or poisonous worldviews are blaming IDEAS for making them so. It's absolutely crazy.
@@macummings7818 Do you even realize what kind of words you are saying? And everyone who doesn't agree with you is a fascist, I presume?
CRT teaches that whites are inherently racist and evil (which ironically is racist in and of itself), plenty of so called teachers in this space reinforce these ideas. So of course people will rightfully oppose it.
Being educated and black, despite a few expected moments of bigotry, was overall an advantage. If you are simply competent, people think you are a superstar because expectations are low. However, your mistakes, and we all make them, are always amplified so it is best not to make them or hide them where you can.
"However, your mistakes, and we all make them, are always amplified"
An interesting perspective that I hadn't spent enough time considering.
Swords are often double-edged, I suppose.
Thank you for sharing.
I'm a black Oxford alumni and I dont agree with your comments about competency. If expectations are low, you don't get hired simple.
I started uni late, because I started working & traveling, after school.
When I decided to return home & go to university, I was so excited because I thought I would meet like- minded people, with a passion for the arts.
I'm very open & I get along with everyone & since I worked in all kind of fields, I had to socialize with people from all walks of life.
Unfortunately, I had the most miserable time at my art school.
That's awful. I take it that art school was narrow minded indoctrination?
Got master's degree 23 years ago and went back to Uni for Screenwriting degree last year. The kids are nice to me but most of them are so PC.
ps. I do most projects alone since I went back for art not politic.
On Zee's point of patience. Currently I'm working through a spousal visa process for my husband to join me in the UK. And two things that strike me as odd when I tell people we live apart, currently. They are shocked that I am standing and not in perpetual mourning. Secondly, they always advise how to work around the system, by having children and that will mean he will get to stay and live here. I cannot imagine explaining to my child you were conceived to get Daddy a passport. All in all, because South African paperwork can be immensely slow, it may take up to a year for the process to complete. It's worth the wait to do things right, get my husband and in the same place with the best mindset and without concerns of cutting corners coming back to bite us. We can also see the end of the road and as a married couple it's really just a tiny blip on the landscape of the rest of our lives together. Technology has made it possible for us to communicate so well, it will never compare being with each other. We get to really sink in and cherish our time with one another. There is a beauty in having patience.
Don't listen to people giving advice on how to get visas. They are often very misimformed, or totally clueless of the current laws.
That's what I always tell my partner, that in the grand scheme of things having even a shitty month or year is not that big a deal.
An incandescent intelligence. I do hope she does go to Oxford or Cambridge to complete her studies.
Incandescent, eh 😊
Thank the lord for young people like this young lady. All hope is not lost!
Is is a pleasure to listen to this thoughtful young woman. Thank you for having her on. I hope her perspective gains traction.
Society is lacking a collective narrative on ethics and a total lack of social cohesion. Religion dominating societies was bad, but at least it gave citizens that bond. So much food for thought in this discussion.
CRT: criticize everything EXCEPT our views of the world
And everything that isn't "white"....
CRT: if you don't control something, call it racist until you do control it.
Great interview. Her insights are so on point. One of the best TH-cam essayists to ever do it imo.
Guys, this has been one of your best interviews I’ve seen in awhile. Ms. Powell is very impressive and well-spoken! Good job, gentlemen, in showcasing her! Thank you!
Well said!
Great to see another authentic non-American on the show. Too many more episodes like Neil Tyson would be really bad for my health and sanity.
What a great guest. She's very smart and eloquent !! Loved the discussion.
She’s great, she goes so in depth with her research and vision, I admire her approach to stuff, she’s amazing ❤
Critical Race Theory has nothing to do with the UK... It's unique to the Black Experience in America.
Oof, way to fill that myopic stereotype.
If this was a honest conversation, Black people did nothing to her, her community did.
Her perspective is hers, but she should know “why” she is there.
I am a nearly anti woke person , I was not pro woke , I did not take that much notice , but now I have realized it is as dangerous as far right , we need some middle lane and also some truth in information. ,
Most British statement ever: "It's bollocks".
I've never enjoyed a Triggernometry episode more! Zee went well beyond CRT and addressed a number of issues: gender roles and desires, intergenerational differences, just to name two. She has so much nuance, she's truly liberal in her judgement, and she articulated so many things I myself struggle to put into words!
I have never been more happy and at peace than the last 4 years since Jesus Christ saved me. I was obsessed with making money, obsessed with my looks and ended up getting a boob job that did not make me happy, bought 2 houses that only briefly gave me joy and was constantly strughling with depression and severe anxiety where I dreaded every morning. I have a loving husband and beautiful daughter but even they couldn't comfort me and give me peace until the night Jesus reached out to me a woman who never ever thought about religion. His love is the only thing that has made me content. Now nothing scares me and haven't had one anxiety attack.
I'm South African in the UK and have felt like I have to teach from 3rd world country. Speech has changed over years to be careful when there are so many honest things and lessons to be told.
Well boys, another enriching conversation with an absolute treasure of a young lady. You guys really do choose fascinating people.
I cannot wait to see this Kidology!!!
“We didn’t get on.“ Dying from laughter.
OMG how amazing that Kid made it to the Trigger pod! Congrats you deserve all the success coming your way!!
Yay kidology!!!!! She’s a great choice for an interview!
I too moved to the UK at 15 and there was a serious mismatch between how I saw myself as a Nigerian and how everyone else saw me. I didn't know what CRT was at the time (2007). I would say Zandile being abandoned by her black community made the negative impact much worse for her...because I drew strength from all the strong, intelligent, black people that have surrounded me all my life.
I think a lot of people underestimate the impact of being immersed in a culture that doesn’t match your outward expression ( I know I did). She is a fascinating individual.
I wasn't able to buy my first home until I was 47. Always surprised by young people who think they should be able to buy a house in their mid 20s.
she was depressed that she did not have connections in Cambridge, she is PROVING the very thing she SEEKS TO DISPROVE!
The guest said at the end that we need more philosophy and more forgiveness. Even though I’m a “crusty conservative”, it sounds like we need more Jesus in the world.
It appears to me the world is so evil only God can save us now.
@@grannyannie2948 Looking more and more like that each day
This whole discussion operated under the presupposition that God does not exist. A case of “looking in the wrong places” for answers.
@@craiginthebox you’re a better man than I am, because if I really thought there was no God, I wouldn’t be looking to give or receive forgiveness.
@@skeetabomb Yes. There are red pills and blackpills, but only the white pill of God offers any help.
This is one of the worst interviews I’ve ever seen.
These people are trying to get me to believe the perspective of a woman born in South Africa who was so disconnected from her culture that *SHE DIDN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND* that she was black? This matters because if she doesn’t know the concerns of black people in her community how can she evaluate the usefulness of any kind of theory of relationships between power, race and law, which is the main thrust of CRT?
Meanwhile she throws-by insinuation -the entire black community under the bus for her mother’s sins which we know virtually nothing about, but are invited to take the harshest criticism of since it was white people who took her in.
Then she critiques an academic theory that she CLEARLY doesn’t understand AT ALL to two people who also don’t understand it. And insinuates again that she understands its application in the US where it originated based on the particular racial challenges in the US.
Here’s how we know she doesn’t understand it.
First, she’s unable to actually explain it when asked directly.
Second, she says in her story that she was told that she was oppressed and got depressed because she didn’t see her almost entirely white upbringing as being oppressive.
BUT the words oppressed and oppressor are the names of ELEMENTS in a SYSTEMS MODEL. They aren’t intended to be applied to INDIVIDUAL INSTANCES PEOPLE! They could have labeled them Group A and Group B. Or beneficiary vs disadvantaged. THAT DOESN’T mean that YOU PERSONALLY are either in that category or experience those effects.
There is ABSOLUTELY nothing about CRT that implies absence of agency. It is in fact, quite the contrary.
I don’t know how this lady got into a political philosophy program at Cambridge, but she does NOT appear do a lot of deep thinking around this stuff.
She also talks about how racist her white South African family was on her channel. The world is a mess.
Weird. i watched her channel since the beginning, and she actually talked about experiencing a lot of racism at the university
She said she believed she was oppressed at first, so probably she was seeing it through that lense back then, and later realized she had been indoctrinated a bit and can see other perspectives now on those experiences she had back then
@@octopus4925 Sounds like she’s getting indoctrinated into another world view. At the time, she didn’t talk about belief. She talked about specifics of being undermined at the university and sly remarks by professors. Maybe she made it all up.
@@nicolem889she’s leaning in to right wing views for cash. I’m a bit disappointed in her but it pays better than the supermarket so I get it….
@@narukouzumaki2484 agreed.
Exactly! I'm stunned right now. I'm a black Oxford graduate and I was introduced to her because of her comments about race in Oxbridge. She also spoke at length about the racism she experienced from her adoptive family. I guess she's trying to pivot to a new career, he content has definitely taken an interesting turn recently...
As you guys got bigger I was worried you’d stop doing interviews like this one. I’ve been really enjoying your old conversations with very interesting people I’ve never heard of.
Well done lads.
Well said!
Great to see another authentic non-American on the show. Too many more episodes like Neil Tyson would be really bad for my health and sanity
@@mikegray8776 As an American I couldn’t agree with you more.
@@user-nw3sd2td9l. 👍🏼. Not casting aspersions on all Americans generally - Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury and John McWhorter were all great - but some of your high-profile guys come with so much intellectual baggage !!
Her experience of Critical Race Theory is very interesting. I study Critical Race and Ethnic Studies at a public university in California. I haven’t really learned much about old white men. Perhaps because of the ethnic studies part of my major, I learn more about specific cultures and the history of people and things from a different lens/perspective. I do agree that it can be a very heavy topic that can leave you depressed but the topics that I’ve learned about includes the resilience of people who’ve been oppressed.
Thx, White lady.
@@tablescissors i’m not white tablescissor
Stop lying.
As touched on here, social media is causing more problems than anything else. If somebody says something to you at home you disagree with, you can immediately discuss it with them and (usually) understand the context of what they meant. If somebody posts something online, it's all too easy for others to misinterpret it, and then that misinterpretation becomes set in stone as what you meant and no amount of explanation or apology will convince those people otherwise as they'll just accuse you of 'letting the mask slip' or whatever. Also, a lot of people just don't know how to express themselves very well in writing unfortunately.
Racism will never end. Anyone can be racist. Black, white, yellow, brown, alabaster white, charcoal black, dark brown, light brown... it will never ever end.
Race is a purely artificial modern creation proliferated during 17th century European colonialism and conceptualised during the formulation of fascism as an politician philosophy. Before modernity, slavery for example was purely based on power dynamics and not race.
Once we abandon Modernity, we can depart with the idea of race.
Correct. Only intellectual Whites with barely any experience traveling or living in different classes are DICTATING this to us. If you have real life experiences, you see this easily, you start to view it as a part of evolution even…it’s part of competition and it definitely has existed throughout history. Stating otherwise simply shouts ignorance and self-importance.
Well done for Francis that got her to say bollocks with her accent 👏
The section 'Have people's identities become too political?' was eye opening for me because it explains something that I could not make sense of with the new generations - in essence the world needs to conform to my expectations. I'm Gen X and fortunately we had existentialism to put our lives in perspective and the idea that what other people think about me is none of my business, and that people could do what they want until they start interefering with my life. Not a perfect view but I did end up having arguments and asserting myself against people I really disagreed with and learning about different people's ways of life. I never expected the world to validate me, my frustration manifested itself in what I built and I didn't descend into tantrums. Anyway, how Zee explains really helps me to understand a behaviour I've witnessed in the culture around me that has baffled me.
What other people think of you matters because you have to interact with other people to survive. Being a pariah is a terrible thing.
@@treacherousjslither6920 it is a terrible thing, but learning to be who you are is far less terrible
@@cbashe Troo
You explained that so well - THANK YOU.
@@treacherousjslither6920 It’s part of toxic femininity, also inverted narcissism, some feel we are functioning in a Cluster B reality. You also perfectly highlighted why “cancel culture” or shunning, is a form of weaponized compassion in the way it is being utilized lately. Many of these techniques were also used by Communist countries, they aren’t new; Mao weaponized the youth to turn against the elders (instead of to value their wisdom) as young people are easy to manipulate or brainwash in this way (especially via the educational system); this is demonstrated in fictional works like 1984 and The Red Violin.
My mum was racist til at 84, my big bro and I moved her to be close to us with help from our dear Maori friend and her Maori/Indian sons.
A full day's work later I had just mum in my wagon following the truck and an hour into a quiet drive mum suddenly sobbed at the top of her voice "I THOUGHT THEY WERE HORRIBLE!!"
Nearly crashed. "What? Who?!"
"MY FATHER TOLD ME MAORI WERE HORRIBLE!!".
Her father died when she was young, and without social media and with few chances to meet people, she'd believed this since the 1960s 😢
One day getting to know one Maori woman, and my mum realised she was unfairly maligning an entire race her entire life.
She sobbed because she was a GOOD person 😢
Bless your mother's heart. At least she was able to realize the truth, however late it happened. My heart goes out to her.
What a weird situation... To have a racist man taken in his ex-wife's adopted black grandchild. Why? He would hate that she was part of his family but somehow his own sense of obligation to his family extends to Miss Powell. The contradictions in this situation are really hard to reconcile. I find myself admiring the man's sense of family while despising him for his racist beliefs. i am really having a hard time grappling with this.
Yes it is weird, but maybe it was an opportunity for him to grow as a person even at his old age
Wohoo! I thought my nagging about Kidology being a great idea for a guest was deemed futile. She’s a fascinating soul on an adventurous journey, looking forward to this!
Watching Kidology on TRIGGERnometry I made the right life choices :) Almost every sentence she said - you can have a full-hour conversation about it. So many great realizations.
Realizations with no solutions? What good are those?
Glad she's turned her back on CRT. Now, to turn her back on Feminism.
As an American - I am most embarrassed for my country over only two things, really. 1. Exporting Wokeness and 2. Exporting transgender ideology. To the rest of the world, we apologize.
Having said that, I also believe a lot of that has been exported by China by way of Tiktok, and by the Left taking over universities, training up a generation of completely messed up teachers, who are now trying to take over our primary education as well.
Not everything in the world is defined by race, and that wasn't even the case here in the US, until social media took some really stupid ideas and put them on greased ice skates going downhill.
I thought nr.2 came from Canada
You don't take issue with the dirty actions of the CIA or all the war profiteering? Interesting..
The interaction starting around 13:00 is why the left dosent fuk with kidology.
The existence of 100 black millionaires, out of 45 million blacks, does not disprove a disproportionate amount of pressure being placed specifically on blacks as a result of institutionalized discrimination. Its literally just your personal antidote.
I live in Atlanta, black mecca as somesay, i know what black success and wealth looks like.
I sat in an early childhood conference 2019 in Melbourne Australia where the audience were told, "If you are born white, then you automatically have a privileged life over aboriginal people" This I believe was a racist statement towards people who have light skin having grown up in the 60's from a vulnerable family circumstances. Also telling anyone they are a victim is the worst possible thing someone can do to another person and it almost feels like a power struggle.
Well done Kidology ❤
I never really understood this need for an "identity", especially when it is centred around the most superficial things as though you are creating a video game character. Actually as I wrote that last sentence, it began to make sense, given the amount of time people spend online, that they think they need an avatar for life. Just be, you don't need to pick teams.
Thing is, no matter how hard she worked to get the place at Cambridge the current equality culture will mean it looks like she got it as part of positive discrimination and lower grades (because apparently the left thinks black people aren't capable of good grades), once she graduates when she gets a good job it'll be seen as due to quota's, then every promotion she gets 'or doesn't get' will be due to race. That's the curse, outside of the wealthy most groups accomplishments had to be earned and are seen as their own an intelligent/hardworking black person like a rich person's accomplishments will always be put down to privilege and look undeserved and drowned out by those who's were. Wish her all the luck.
True that. Right up until the moment she opens her mouth and it becomes obvious she's really bright.
This is how the west shoots itself in the foot.
I'm a black Oxford graduate who grew up working class and the only people who have ever accused me of being a beneficiary of affirmative action were generationally wealthy people with multiple ancestors who had attended the university...
As a white Xennial who was on the left until about 2016 and started getting all the talk of unconscious bias and microaggressions at work, in all honesty it has done nothing positive for my interactions with people who aren't white.
These ideas weren't really a thing when i was at university in the late 90s and i remember happily including all kinds of people in my social groups from all kinds of backgrounds.
And yet between university and my mid 30s i internalised all this guilt and fear about unconscious bias and microaggressions and the like that it got to a point i started avoiding people based on their race which i had never done before because i'd become terrified of saying and doing the wrong thing out of my ignorance.
And even now in my mid 40s i'm still struggling to get that fear out of my brain a decade later so that i can just talk to people again the way i did in my teens and early 20s.
I experienced similar feelings, of that kind of fear. Stopped listening to those negative voices and was able to relax around blacks and have authentic pure relationships. You have to believe the best about yourself. Being a Christian helped me weed out all the lies.
just talk to people without micro agression omg why is it such a big deal for you because you are black? Like Im African, but when I talk to my asian friends Im just acting noraml, why the need to fear to say something you shouldn't? If you fear it is it because you know you would do it or?
I’m so so happy to see my favourite TH-camr on my favourite podcast! I’m so proud of her for this first foot into the door, many more doors are to open soon, congratulations, Kid!
This comment section really depresses me. This lady is the worst.
What an absolutely amazing guest! Thoroughly enjoyed hearing this young woman speak 👌 👏👏. I still can't get over how she was sent away at 13, with a days notice to the other side of the world to live with someone who despised black people, and seems to be undamaged by her challenging experiences😳, and refuses to be classed as a victim.
As a survivor of a dysfunctional, violent family living in foster care and having a degree in psychology, social work and counselling, I have NEVER bought into critical race theory, social justice theory or any ideology pushing a victim agenda. Empowering oneself means accepting responsibility, believing in your self-empowering narrative, believing in the fact that you own your own destiny, that nobody has power over your story like you do. I REFUSE to use critical race theory in my practice. It has filtrated universities, companies, schools. I could not find a single course to further my studies that is not pushing critical race theory. For TRUE victims of abuse of any race, these university programmes are very stressful and take away people's power. Imagine the damage this does to a victim of abuse - sitting them down controlling the narrative, punishing decent, denying your reality, forcing you to buy into an abusive self-hating narrative , threatening exclusion, forcing to play along with a fantasty you know is untrue and taking away your ability to challenge and assert oneself etc.These are a the hallmarks of abuse. They mimic the experiences from abusive relationships and can be incredibly traumatic. The whole critical race theory programme is abusive in itself! This young lady is a true example of someone who knows true challenges but most importantly - she has accepted her challenges. I am not suprised she is not buying it - struggling often produces minds that are incredibly independent and are less dependent on affirmation.
I am so grateful to this wonderful fellow South African. What a fantastic woman! As a white African it makes me feel like her words give me voice. Thank you.
Great to know that there are young intellectuals out there who haven't fallen for the con...beacons of hope!
Well, at least BROKE FREE.
And that hurts too, that’s another form of trauma, to realize that you truly were victimized and/or traumatized.
I agree with her that young men are “impatient” when it comes to they’re life paths. But what the young women are right in dating is that it’s not the women’s responsibility to solve that for the young men. Men are not entitled to rescue by women. At all.
Omg Kid! I’ve been a fan of hers for so long! She’s a fascinating person!
Great interview. Smart, insightful and thoughtful guest. Thanks for sharing the conversation.
I love how she pauses to think before speaking and she’s very intentional about her words. Truly an intellectual
Seeing your whole world through the lens of race, harkens back to tribal times when other tribes were truly different. We all live together now, and I think we're doing a good job considering the Human tendency to fear the "other".
The truth is difficult, does that mean we should ignore it? If you're disgnosed with cancer, the diagnosis could make you depressed. Does that mean you should pretend you don't have cancer?