SpaceX Reveals Latest Starship Flight 5 Launch Estimate! + Inside The Starship Miracle Engine!
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SpaceX Superheavy Booster 12 static fire this week? Will Hurricane Beryl endanger Starbase? SpaceX is preparing for Starship flight 5 and flight 6! Elon gives a new launch window for Flight 5. Is Stoke Space catching up to SpaceX? And is Europe launching an outdated Ariane 6 rocket?
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What would you name Stoke Space's new engine if you could? Write your suggestion in the comments below!
Stoked One.
What is the music playing in the background? (or am I imagining it?) it feels similar to a computer game I play called Avorion.
HEY FELIX..... I'm gonna be in Destin Florida the week of August 5th. I'm from Oklahoma and its a dream of mine to see either a falcon launch OR starship! Will I be able to see starship or a falcon launch from there????? PLEASE PLEASE tell me one way or another!
With all those pipes and tubes? Call it a double shot, soy milk espresso with extra whip. Too many points of failure (as we've learned from SpaceX) to be viable long term. Maybe call it "you gotta start somewhere."
Dude, I know your ignorant "fans" just want to clap like seals for spaceX but serious you need to be more honest. Elon makes a claim you report it was written in stone. You have no critical reporting of the most outlandish claims and you're making ignorant syccophants. You say full flow is the holy grail, come on. They have been around for 70 years, nothing new. Nasa and usgao have serious concerns that elon hasn't addressed. Come on.
Arianespace really made their bed a decade ago when they underplayed SpaceX and opted not to develop reusable rockets. They're truly living the nightmare scenario they thought would never happen.
Everyone opted out on spacex...
Bet those think tanks feel a little embarrassed.
It’s worse than that. Arianespace itself refuses to do anything on its own; refuses to take any initiative; refuses to be entrepreneurial- in spite of receiving the equivalent behind it of billions in European taxpayer subsidies; they insist on being spoon-fed. It’s mis-management on ESA’s part that they continue to blindly support organizations year after year that then don’t leverage that support to build up new space business. - Dave Huntsman
If you are only launching ~8-11 times per year reuse isn't super attractive, especially for core stages on missions to GEO and beyond. I mean look at Falcon Heavy, they almost never recover the core, because it's just not worth it. So the only option would be to recover the P120C SRBs, but SRB reuse just isn't financially interesting, as the Space Shuttle proved. In the future Ariane Space may introduce reusable liquid fueled boosters (something they are doing research towards with Themis, etc., and have alluded to a couple times, for example in the clip Felix stole at 17:50), but SRBs are allready quite cheap, especially when using the same SRBs for Ariane 6 and VegaC. And again they were working on the assumption of very low launch cadence, which is only inacurate due to Amazon's project Kuiper.
@@plainText384 I’m giving you a Thumbs Down because you’ve totally missed the main issue- as does the head of ESA Space Transportation, who spouts the same, well, er, nonsense. Let’s get specific: You can’t keep acting the same ol’ way and expect any positive change; you have to change the world. Remember, SpaceX started out with only a couple of launches- much, much less than Ariane, So, what happened? How did they get to the point where they could economically start launching their own, new industry- Starlink- up to 70 launches a year, self-funded, just for that! There WOULD HAVE BEEN no Starlink possible without FIRST the full-commitment to Falcon 9 first stage/fairing reusability- & doing whatever it took to get there, including all the failures et al. AND a commitment to RAPID reuse and commitment BEFOREHAND to high flight rates - which also meant a commitment UP FRONT to multiple launch pads- all BEFORE he committed to Starlink. (Check the dates). He committed to the basics of a growing sustainable space transportation infrastructure company and operation First- key words: COMMITMENT TO THE VISION FIRST- not waiting for the ‘demand’ to show up first. THEN came Starlink; created for two reasons: 1. He needed a long-term funding vehicle for Mars etc al; 2. He/Gwynne looked at OneWeb et al & saw their business models were broken (they were right); meaning they were ripe for disruption before they even got off the ground.
Quilty Analytics estimates those actions (long-term commitments) are what have brought down SpaceX’s internal marginal Falcon 9 costs to approximately $15m- and Decreasing above 100 flights/year. This will have a huge impact on the markets from late 2026 onward when F9 loses 70% of its payloads- the Starlink Mini’s, as they are replaced by full-sized Starlinks launched by Starship- yet doesn’t retire the F9. Gwynne is not about to let other launches charge $70m or so for medium launches when she- as with the recent Eumetset deal that Was Ariane 6’s- will simply start underbidding- well, everybody- and still make a profit. The Commitment to serious, rapid reusability, lots of launch capability- ALL that has to come FIRST- not waiting around to be spoon-fed, like Arianespace insists on being. Arianespace, after receiving billions in taxpayer payments for decades, refuses to self-invest in Europe’s space future. They should never get another Euro. The money needs to go to those European entrepreneurs who actually have the vision to bring the future forward. - Dave Huntsman
Ariane's execs if I remember correctly expressed concerns a couple years ago that they are in big trouble regarding Falcon9 and Heavy. I was screaming inside like: "what were you thinking!". Truth be told ULA (Lockheed and Boeing) and Northrop and the likes do and did the same. They don't see instant competition and the money is fix, and the future demand they see is steady then they didn't see any need for innovation or push. Other than that, quite frankly, the very low cadence and the existing Ariane 5 infrastructure kinda locked them in. They would have needed a larger grant or invite private investors. I don't see if they saw the demand for that..probably not. So with existing infrastructure, project management, facilities, people and only a slightly bigger scope it was kinda obvious to go that way. In this sense ESA was mistaken too: they too could have promoted another direction. (opinion, could be wrong or imprecise)
I'm just so excited! First, I really want to thank you Felix and the entire WAI team; I have been watching your videos since last summer, and you have always kept me updated and curious. It is to the point where I understood exactly what a closed-cycle-engine was before the words left your mouth! I owe you a lot which is why I recently became a channel member, and yet I still I can't give you as much as I owe you, so I must thank you for your generousity on giving the same subscriber content to everyone! I hope to support you more in the future, and I hope to see the same quality content for years to come! And thanks for covering stoke space!
Thank you so much for this kind comment! You can't imagine how much this means to the entire team and me! WAI is as much a wild ride to me as it is to you! Thank you for watching and for the support!!!
I worked on construction for the Comance Peak Nuclear Reactors in Texas in the 1980s. There are two containment buildings, each taller than the US Capitol dome (288 feet (88 meters). There were two cranes at the construction site, each capable of raising and lowering loads to the top of the domes. One afternoon, a storm front appeared with wind gusts up to 50 mph. There was an order to lower the cranes to ground level, but the operators of one of the cranes rushed to get 'one more load' before lowering the cranes. The winds caught the cranes and sent it crashing to the ground. Unfortunately several buildings housing engineers and construction personnel were under the landing area. Several buildings were crushed under the mass of the crane. Several people were crushed and died as a result. ALWAYS lower extremely tall cranes when violent storms approach. A few years ago a relatively small crane on a building under construction collapsed in Dallas killing several people in an adjacent apartment complex. The nature of the ground in the area is a nonfactor. High winds and cranes do NOT interact well. Relatively simple physics.
I'd call the Stokes space engine Navier. As in the Navier Stokes equation which describes fluid flow.
Wow!
Love the “shot out of the flamey end “ 😂
You know its a good day when WAI uploads
Yes
Yes
You know it's a good day when oddheader uploads
He uploads quite frequently.
Why?
Nice to see more news Felix. You give me something to look forwards to. Thank you
Thx Felix and also your team.
thanks for the speach on Ariane regarding the competition :)
Whoa! You guys really brought it up a notch, awesome show!
Thanks Felix and your crew for a as usual. Great show. Good info. Nice flow.
Thank you, a great synopsis as alway.
I find it amusing that if you zoom all the way in on MyRadar over star base, the only thing that is visible is a marking for “starhopper”
Priorities right?
Word of the day. " Hurrikin".
@@patmiller7045 lmbo...I was thinking the same thing
And Spase..
City name of the day: Polackeyohs.
@@roughcutfarm if you mean Ariane Space, that's how it would be pronounced in many European languages.
AS pronounced around Washington County, Utah
8:32 - "NaC1" (N-a-C-one)? Salt would be sodium chloride - NaCl (N-a-C-el).
Thanks Felix and WAI. I always look forward to your updates. A suggestion - your fast paced updates use a fair bit of “stock” footage - usually WAI previous stacks of ships and towers - it is actually confusing to know what is the current state. Can you simply label things like “Tower 1 from mid 2022” or starship stack for IFT 3? It would allow for more rapid assimilation and understanding. Thanks.
You rock dude! Love this page 🙌🏾🤟🏾
Love the bloopers at the end of each episode!
Excellent presentation!
Can't wait!
As always, great content well delivered. Thanks Felix
Not the doot skeleton! 😂
Regarding Ariane's "dual-payload" capability, there's a catch when you compare it to Falcon Heavy... and that's that A9 payload to GTO is only about twice that of Falcon 9 (~11 tonnes vs ~5 tonnes).
So if you're launching two satellites at once, at least one of them - and possibly both - are light enough to fly on Falcon 9 for *much* less cost, even if it takes two launches. And that's been a problem for Arianespace since F9 started flying... they may have the ability to launch two satellites on one rocket, but they didn't actually have many secondary payloads to launch, because SpaceX was gobbling up that part of the market.
I love your vids Felix .Thx to the whole team. You have kept me updated for two years
Stoked One.
I think Stoke is onto something with their new design, because it also solves the heat shield issue. I mean no tiles, that is a good thing. Every tile on starship is a probability for failure. Since stokes design makes the cooling part of the engine and heat shielding, that’s very smart. Let’s see if their design works out. Imagine a starship with this design 🤔
been waiting all day for this lol, its like a part of my schedule every 3 days check if WAI has uploaded! i went back to the start of your channel and its cool to see how your videos evolved. Dont stop doing your thing man👍
Rocket name.... behemoth sounds great it's massive powerful and awesome to watch it fire
4:23 You guys rickroll us and think we won't noitce lol 😂
🎵We're no strangers🎵
i thought i was nuts hehe
It’s a good day when Felix drops a video. Keep up the great work!
12:22 I don't really think you can say that the "full flow staged combustion engine" and "closed cycle engine" are the same. Of course a full flow staged combustion engine is an closed cycle engine like every square is a rectangle but they are not the same. A lot of closed cycle engines have been in use for many years, like RS-25 in Space Shuttle, but there wasn't any full flow staged cumbusiton in use yet (SpaceX is still testing).
The main difference between full flow staged combusion and "oridinary" closed cycle engine is, in full flow staged combustion engine the oxidizer and fuel enter the main combustion chamber in gaseous form while in an "ordinary" closed cycle engine one of them (oxidizer or fuel) is still in liquid form.
But I would like to say, your descirption of how rocket engine work is pretty good, and suggest to everyone intrested how rocket engines work to check @EverydayAstronaut TH-cam channel.
The stoke space stuff is going to end up being so freaking cool. And inevitably make starship better as well.
I'd name that engine the "Phoenix". It's just a wicked cool name I think.
Thank you.
Love your bloopers 😅
Excellent stuff bro
The west side of the huricane is the side away from the surf build up. SpaceX was never really in danger once it was determine to pass north to Boca Chia.
14:47 full flow spaghetti monster or "fulflosm"
That Demag CC 8800-1 is one BIG BADDA BOOM.
The tile work was done yesterday.
6:16 CATHY JARBOE!
Hi Felix. I would call the engine “Nucleus”. I don’t know why 😊. I enjoy your stuff , never stop.
A plug and play launch tower! never thought i hear those words😂
At 3:12, the new crane shot displays a giant letter "X."
How appropriate, IMO.
One could argue "X 1" standing next to the FIRST tower?
Iconic enough for a potential future "meme" shwing it building the pyramid?
It could lift such heavy blocks easily, IMO.
I think technoloy has caught up to the legends, maybe?
Pa-las-cios, TX 😁
As in “Palace”. “Palas”. NOT “palak e o”
You know the weather and so do I! 🕺
"Do not forget this one thing.
One day is as 1,000 years and 1,000 years is as 1 day." Jesus
It takes 1,000 orbits to cross the center of the Sun's Oort cloud magnetosphere from 24 degrees west declination increasing to 24 degrees east declination decreasing.
Purgatory is the definition of insanity by ignoring the word warnings of God our Father as delivered by Jesus his son with his new Commandment new covenant.
12:32 Full flow doesn't necessarily use methalox. The Soviet Union tried to make one using hypergolic propellants
Also, full flow is a type of closed cycle that has all the propellant go through the preburners. You can have other types that have some liquid propellant go straight to the combustion chamber.
Edit: 12:36 The fuel doesn't have to flow through the walls of the combustion chamber. It's just a very common way to cool the combustion chamber.
The hill was for putting pressure on the ground to push out the moisture. They did the same for the other starbase structures.
They DID do that, but I think this is a different case. This is the launchpad from the Ship landing trials of a few years back. The hill was built up and used that way for years. Now they’re ripping that all out.
still with you from the beginning. Always like> well done felix and family
the ariane 6 seems like a interesting rocket for companies that want to launch payloads in different orbits on on one launch and glad to see it launched always good to see new rockets.
Perfect.Thanks.❤
Hi Felix, great news as always but please correct the chemical formula of salt from NaC1 to NaCl 🙂
6:12 i thought he would say ; Smooth as butter like a criminal undercover
He literally said it, but he edited the video... it's against the FAQ...
When the boosters are re used will they need to undergo static fires after each use before each turnaround ?
INITIAL CONCERNS ON "STOKE -FULL FLOW" ENGINES 1.) Single Point of Failure Engine 2.) Unknown Attitude Control 3.) Ultra Complexity = Lower Reliability 4.) Engine Bells seem "Exposed" to Re-Entry Thermals.
Thank you :)
IFT-5 FTW!
@@gnanke what was the launch window again? I missed it.
@@worldtrav72 same here lol
@gnanke there wasn't one. This channel thinks if elon tweets it it must be true, lol. Think we all should know why you can't trust him. But his tweet said 4 weeks.
Do we know whether the flap redesign will help mitigate the heat issue with re-entry.
Why put an ablative shield under the tiles? Wont that mean that they will have to strip all the tiles off after each flight? Or is it just a safety feature and not meant to be used up every flight?
it is a safety feature. the reusable tiles should hold up for multiple flights, but if they fail then the ablative layer can take more heat and keep the ship safe.
It’s an awesome time to be a space nerd🎉
i still think once they get the heat shielding figured out, i feel they outta coat the more fragile areas of the launch tower with it.
The tiles aren’t tough enough to take that. They are weak in compression, and the direct rocket blast is probably an order of magnitude more force than the plasma stream flowing over the tiles.
I thought those hills were there to passively compact the soil?
Felix... do you think Space-X will ever launch a Ultra heavy Starship configured like a Falcon Heavy, i.e. Using two super heavy boosters as side boosters to increase the max tonnage to LEO or GEO? I think it would allow Starship to make orbit with most of it's fuel still onboard so a refueling of a second Starship would be more efficient.
I would guess not, can you imagine the launch pad and mounts needed for that? Remember the final versions will be about 100 feet taller than the ones we are seeing today (120m vs 150m)
It would make more sence longterm to increase starships diameter. tricore inherently complicates logistics in a way that sabotages rapid reuse.
Dude, that would be _crazy!_ 🤞
The hill was placed where it is to compact the soil. something heavy will be put there.
Good video Felix. Wish I could have seen it when it came out, but I had lost all connectivity thanks to Beryl. Even the 5G network wasn't working. Finally got power back yesterday. Nice to be getting caught up. What is the expected payload capacity of Stoke's Nova rocket? I thought it was going to be medium lift, but you were comparing it to Starship. Do you think ESA/Arianespace will ever develop a reusable rocket? I know there are several European startups now (what an exciting thing to say). Do any of them have ambitions for reusability?
When the day comes, and it will, that you go through a hurricane, I hope you live stream the experience.
Never mind Falcon Heavy, Falcon 9 in fully expendable mode can launch 22.8 tons to LEO for $67 million which is way cheaper than Arian 6's projected launch cost.
How do SpaceX's SPMTs work?... (Also, in the case of Booster and Ship transportation, was automation the better choice compared to manual operation, especially since there is still so much changing around the entire complex?)
the bill and ted cut away was most excellent
Surprised by the engine graphics. Impressive.
Just a guess, but 'the hill' might have been used as weight to compress the ground. Piling ground is a technique used to press water out of the ground and packing the ground. I only know that because of watching Practical Engineering.
The niche side of things is not a significant problem: they don't need to get a big chunk of the launch market.. if anything because the production capacity is limited. 10 rockets a year (at cruise speed) was a decent production capacity when the A6 program started. How times change...
As I understand geosynchronous orbits, the orbital plane needs to be the same as the equatorial plane. If not, the satellite will stay over the same longitude but will alternate in latitude. This means a geosynchronous orbit is only feasible at an inclination of 0°.
So, what’s the purpose of the Ariane 6? Maybe it can place two satellites in different right ascensions of the ascending node? But if there is no ascending node, is that even the correct way to say that? What do you think?
Epic!
SpaceX has complete control over the thickness of the barrels they stack starship and booster out of. Do they put thicker rings at the bottom that support more weight? And when everything gets heavier will they have to?
Regarding the ice problem that is plugging filters and damaging the raptor engines on restarts.
The only place that water and carbon dioxide ice could be coming from is the autogenous pressurization system .
When a vehicle is recovered, all the ice will have to be purged before it can be refuel and fly again.
This should be an interesting reuse problem to solve
Would it make sense to pretty much cover the olm and launch tower in heat shields to prevent heat damage? And, doesn't the fuel tank farm seem woefully inadequate for many launches? And, a seawall around the facility to cope with flooding? And, last but not least. Another quality video by you and your team. Great job as usual 👏
No.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom I think you mean "NO!!!!!". ;)
Seriously, this gets suggested - and shot down - a thousand times in every SpaceX-related video. Heat shield tiles are fragile pieces of ceramic... good for managing heat, but they'll break if you drop them, much less subjecting them to the full force of the booster engines. They have enough difficulty making them stick to the Ship without breaking, never mind putting them on the pad.
Name for the engine would name it, Lightning Rocket😊 Be cool to say Starship lifted up with all of the 33 lightnings rockets ignited.
Hi Felix,
ARIANESPACE being the combination of the words ARIANE and ESPACE, the correct pronunciation sounds like:
Ariane s pass, "s" being pronounced like the letter in English...
Good luck and I hope to hear you saying it correctly soon.
Keep on showing your passion for Space and SpaceX
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So basically the new launch tower is the billy shelf of space flight now? I mean, just without missing parts.
By the way, do we have any information how the raptor production is doing? They must have ramped up the production quite significantly to support all these boosters and ships.
Have you seen anything speaking to the issue of refurbing boosters. How many motors are replaced between a landing and relaunch of the same vehicle. So far I haven't seen anything about that.
15:20 Redundancy and some can be at higher power to compensate for any failures to keep the power level and alignment.
Im interested in seeing how passengers (in the future) will get up the tower and onto starship. I foresee the tower evolving further, although 'the meat and bones' of the tower design seems mostly there now. Also, be interesting to see where alternative 'ports' would be worldwide if they go ahead with international flights (that Musk mentioned ages ago)
Thats decades away if ever. I doubt it happens.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom no way decades, look at the rate of progress, they are planining on landing on mars before 'decades' which would be harder!
Is it possible that the taller tower needed won’t actually be taller from the ground but the OLM will be lower with a flame trench under it? This would explain the lack of additional tower segments while still taking into account Elon’s comments about it being tall enough to handle the taller prototype.
I like the tempo of this episode.
@18:34 Where did you get the $106M launch for an Ariane 64? Their target at the start of the project in 2015 was €115M. Even if they managed to hit that target following a decade of inflation, they had to go back to ESA and ask for an additional €40M per flight just to break even.
*No need for tiles at all. just drill lots of micro holes. then pump out dry ice out of those holes to form a cold co2 boundary layer. you dont even really need a pump. the heat of re-entry will cause melting of the dry ice and high pressure dry ice co2 to come out of the micro holes to form the boundary layer.*
How many tons of dry ice would you need for the 20 minutes of re-entry? 100? 200?
@@filonin2 ABOUT 52 KILOS FOR 10 MINUTES
What was the estimated launch date, much have missed that part!?
Fun news 🎉🎉🎉
Stoke should name the engine either "Rex" "Spot" or "STK-1"
Oh wow. If this Stoke company succeeds, I think they're on to something.
Please, give some information on the reusable vehicle, a new ship!
Does the price for the aienan6 factor in the money the eu subsidize?
WAI you do us like that :D
Hi Felix, do you know why we have not seen any images of starship 4 after the landing? The two sections must have floated for a while. And were they recovered?
Best regards from the Netherlands. George
will there be ablative heatshield in the new block 2 starship
I love this channel.
Booster 12 just rolling out! SpaceX is so unpredictable, lol.