I own Sig Sauer M18 for about a year and 9 months I have sent 4200 rounds through it with no problem whatsoever. I put on talon grips and the makes it perfect for me. What surprised me is u said a glock has a better trigger 😳. M18 it has such a smooth trigger. Nice video and thanks for your review.
Ive carried the P320 for several years now. I traded a Glock17 a Beretta Nano and a Beretta tomcat for it even swap. I know that in terms of even I got ripped but for me the P320 is a much better firearm. The feel of the grip is perfect and the trigger OMG I love it.
I own the P320 M18 and the P365 X Macro,anybody that knows what a great gun is,should just go and buy them.I have the best of both worlds and I'm having a great time.
I have a xmacro and debating on swapping to the m18 for conceal carry. I don’t enjoy shooting the xmacro that much. Is it concealable? I’ve been looking for someone like you with both.
Military grade really just means it was built and tested to a collection of very specific requirements for performance and reliability. In some cases the military environmental stress screening will include highly accelerated life testing (HALT) to test those features that are most critical. Some of that rigor goes out the window with certain commercial off-the-shelf procurements. But if you can get a product that has been formally qualified against a set of military specifications that is a good thing.
I can say with an AR 15 military spec means to bolt carrier group have to be magnetic particle inspected and shot peened. A lot of civilian rifles are batch tested. Meaning it is more possible for less than perfect parts in blemishes and shit.
I also have the M18 p320. Love shooting it. My biggest complaint is the optic ready configuration plate. It has a DP fooprint but you loose the rear sight by adding an electronic optic unless you add additional aftermarket accessories.
Sig's Romeo X Pro has integrated rear sights, and cowitnesses with the standard height front sight, so you can have back up irons with that red dot. Obviously doesn't help you much if you want to go with a different optic, but there are options. Even the Delta Point Pro can have rear irons, though it'll require you to get a really really tall front sight.
Good thorough video, I think the M18 has a lot of features for the price point, rail, optics ready, 21 round mag(state dependent). I gave mine to my wife. I’m running the full size on my Beltbrig
I seen the SIG p320s at the shop. I did end up going with g17 gen5 mos version. The Glock is just smooth in my opinion. Now I'm looking into red dot sights if I do get one on it. I might get the this model though.
Thanks for the detailed review. Considering the wide range of users it is intended for, SIG had to make some compromises in the design. Sounds like a good issue sidearm.
Military grade, might not be the best, but it's tested and was ran against glock and Beretta, so I'll go with something that's tested against it's peers and won, over just a name (glock)!
@@ggrandcz doesn't matter, when Sig offered everything the military asked for, if you don't like the grip, you can swap it out, don't like the slide, swap it out. Sig are great straight out the box. Glock are below average out the box, most people will spend what the gun is worth on aftermarket parts, just to compete with the Sig!
@@DarthSmittyTheWise Bla bla bla. Beretta did not even enter to testing. So SIG won but not based on test results but mainly based on price. Which I understand - difference was huge. Pistol is just secondary weapon and to be honest SIG is good enought for that role (any modern pistol is). But you cannot say it was tested against its peers because it was not. I agree that with SIG you get more for your money.
This was chosen and designed as a duty gun, not a concealed carry. A person would have to be morbidly obese to keep that grip from printing. It’s the most modular format I’ve seen with the trigger group serialized instead of the grip module (and even the trigger itself can be swapped). I won’t reholster with a live round in the chamber without a thumb safety engaged, that’s just a thing with me. If someone carries a G19, G17, 320 or 509 comfortably this would probably be a good fit but those are all service size weapons for most people. I think more people concealed carry G26/27, 509C, FNS9C or M&P. I’d roll with P938 myself for EDC unless I could reasonably expect an extended firefight. For home or road trip protection this paired with a wet modular suppressor (no piston required) would be a nice set up. I gotta say, I love the trigger and factory sights on this, it’s a tack driver for me.
These days "Military Grade" means it was built by the low bidder, let's walk in the truth. As far as the M-18 goes, I carry a P-320 Compact in .45 ACP, shoot it a lot, and have for about a year. The only mod is a Talon 'pro-texture' grip (which gets replaced every few months due to wear). It's a great pistol... right up there with my CZs and M&P 2.0 with Apex trigger. It's reliable as an anvil, light, and easy to shoot well. The Sig-Lite night sights are nice too. 9 times out of 10 it's what's on me.
Nope. Not subpar. Just not the best or better because of the moniker "military grade". (Subjective). Military grade means, made by the lowest bidder. Meaning it gets the job done at the lowest cost possible. And if it breaks or don't work. It can be replaced cheaply. The first set of M18/17's were dumped on the surplus market. That's because it was easier to buy all new ones instead of shipping them all back in for their "safety" upgrades then ship them back out for redeployment. Even though they got the upgrades before being sold on the surplus market. That is the very essence of "Military grade".
Fear mongering you're living years behind brother. There are thousands and thousands of people daily carrying an M18. You'd know if a dick got shot off.
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Absolutely the best pick for the military. The P320 platform has grown to become a customizer's dream. My favorite.
I own Sig Sauer M18 for about a year and 9 months I have sent 4200 rounds through it with no problem whatsoever. I put on talon grips and the makes it perfect for me. What surprised me is u said a glock has a better trigger 😳. M18 it has such a smooth trigger. Nice video and thanks for your review.
Ive carried the P320 for several years now. I traded a Glock17 a Beretta Nano and a Beretta tomcat for it even swap. I know that in terms of even I got ripped but for me the P320 is a much better firearm. The feel of the grip is perfect and the trigger OMG I love it.
When I served I concluded that military grade meant reliable and servicable but not Cadillac level.
I own the P320 M18 and the P365 X Macro,anybody that knows what a great gun is,should just go and buy them.I have the best of both worlds and I'm having a great time.
I have a xmacro and debating on swapping to the m18 for conceal carry. I don’t enjoy shooting the xmacro that much. Is it concealable? I’ve been looking for someone like you with both.
Military grade really just means it was built and tested to a collection of very specific requirements for performance and reliability. In some cases the military environmental stress screening will include highly accelerated life testing (HALT) to test those features that are most critical. Some of that rigor goes out the window with certain commercial off-the-shelf procurements. But if you can get a product that has been formally qualified against a set of military specifications that is a good thing.
I can say with an AR 15 military spec means to bolt carrier group have to be magnetic particle inspected and shot peened. A lot of civilian rifles are batch tested. Meaning it is more possible for less than perfect parts in blemishes and shit.
"Military Grade" means it was built by the low bidder. That's the truth of it.
@@HalfCrazy520 While true, all the weapons chosen need to fit the specifications given. Why pay more for what you need or for beyond what you need?
I keep my M18 at my bedside with the 21 rounder ready. It’s an excellent pistol.
I think the M18 is a pretty good but I don’t like the grip at all so I got the Wilson combat grip and it’s changed the gun a good bit!
I don’t like the feel of the frame/grip too. I swapped it out for a Wilson Combat frame.
I also have the M18 p320. Love shooting it. My biggest complaint is the optic ready configuration plate. It has a DP fooprint but you loose the rear sight by adding an electronic optic unless you add additional aftermarket accessories.
Sig's Romeo X Pro has integrated rear sights, and cowitnesses with the standard height front sight, so you can have back up irons with that red dot. Obviously doesn't help you much if you want to go with a different optic, but there are options. Even the Delta Point Pro can have rear irons, though it'll require you to get a really really tall front sight.
I got the m18 a year ago bought the Wilson combat grip love the thing. Next I want to get a flat trigger and possibly the apex trigger bar
I have this one with a wilson combat grip module, i'm in love
I like the M18 a lot. It's too big for me to carry concealed but that's what my P365 is for.
Which camera is being used on this video? Great comparison.
Good thorough video, I think the M18 has a lot of features for the price point, rail, optics ready, 21 round mag(state dependent). I gave mine to my wife. I’m running the full size on my Beltbrig
Very nice offering, both the M17 & M18. If they would upgrade it to an X Series frame w/ manual safety and ff trigger, I would definitely buy one.
You can do that yourself, the newer frames are like $80 you just half to cut out the manual safety that is lightly etched on the new frame
Nice video. Very informative and objective.
Love my sig but do wanna get a fn509
I seen the SIG p320s at the shop. I did end up going with g17 gen5 mos version. The Glock is just smooth in my opinion. Now I'm looking into red dot sights if I do get one on it. I might get the this model though.
Thanks for the detailed review. Considering the wide range of users it is intended for, SIG had to make some compromises in the design. Sounds like a good issue sidearm.
Who was using the M11 A1/ p228?
Great channel man 💪🏽💪🏽
I have one. No complaints at all.
Military grade, might not be the best, but it's tested and was ran against glock and Beretta, so I'll go with something that's tested against it's peers and won, over just a name (glock)!
Well, SIG was not tested that much against its peers. Look it up.
@@ggrandcz doesn't matter, when Sig offered everything the military asked for, if you don't like the grip, you can swap it out, don't like the slide, swap it out. Sig are great straight out the box. Glock are below average out the box, most people will spend what the gun is worth on aftermarket parts, just to compete with the Sig!
@@DarthSmittyTheWise Bla bla bla. Beretta did not even enter to testing. So SIG won but not based on test results but mainly based on price. Which I understand - difference was huge. Pistol is just secondary weapon and to be honest SIG is good enought for that role (any modern pistol is). But you cannot say it was tested against its peers because it was not.
I agree that with SIG you get more for your money.
Great review
btw we do carry the p229 at work but i think we are switching to the p320
Love the P229, solid solid duty weapon.
I would take the M11A1 I just do not like the lower on the M18. Now, if it had had the P320 X compact lower on the M18. I would definitely get an M18.
This was chosen and designed as a duty gun, not a concealed carry. A person would have to be morbidly obese to keep that grip from printing. It’s the most modular format I’ve seen with the trigger group serialized instead of the grip module (and even the trigger itself can be swapped). I won’t reholster with a live round in the chamber without a thumb safety engaged, that’s just a thing with me. If someone carries a G19, G17, 320 or 509 comfortably this would probably be a good fit but those are all service size weapons for most people. I think more people concealed carry G26/27, 509C, FNS9C or M&P. I’d roll with P938 myself for EDC unless I could reasonably expect an extended firefight.
For home or road trip protection this paired with a wet modular suppressor (no piston required) would be a nice set up. I gotta say, I love the trigger and factory sights on this, it’s a tack driver for me.
I love mine !
Yes, mil spec is a good thing. The P320 has always needed a manual safety!
You wanna explain what "manual trigger" is?
@@HalfCrazy520 lololol a typo! I meant safety! Thanks!!! Hahaha
These days "Military Grade" means it was built by the low bidder, let's walk in the truth.
As far as the M-18 goes, I carry a P-320 Compact in .45 ACP, shoot it a lot, and have for about a year. The only mod is a Talon 'pro-texture' grip (which gets replaced every few months due to wear). It's a great pistol... right up there with my CZs and M&P 2.0 with Apex trigger. It's reliable as an anvil, light, and easy to shoot well. The Sig-Lite night sights are nice too. 9 times out of 10 it's what's on me.
@Baconator Doom, as were the rest of the military guns.. Colt, Beretta... Am I wrong? If it is as you say, does that make it subpar?
Nope. Not subpar. Just not the best or better because of the moniker "military grade". (Subjective). Military grade means, made by the lowest bidder. Meaning it gets the job done at the lowest cost possible. And if it breaks or don't work. It can be replaced cheaply. The first set of M18/17's were dumped on the surplus market. That's because it was easier to buy all new ones instead of shipping them all back in for their "safety" upgrades then ship them back out for redeployment. Even though they got the upgrades before being sold on the surplus market. That is the very essence of "Military grade".
@@baconatordoom absolutely nothing wrong with that.
did they fix the issue with the m18?
What issue would that be?
Does the M18 have discharge and drop issues past P320s had?
Fear mongering you're living years behind brother. There are thousands and thousands of people daily carrying an M18. You'd know if a dick got shot off.
SIG. SUPER... ❤❤❤
My Walther P 99 has a better trigger than this don’t get me started on my caniks and pdp n vp9
The commeritive is the military clone that's not military grade just colored like it
Military grade- lowest bidder
just wasted taxpayer money and make someones rich.
The commeritive is the military clone that's not military grade just colored like it