NEWS ELITE DANGEROUS: Python Mk2 First Look, Big SCO Changes Coming & More
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- In a SPECIAL Elite Dangerous News this week…
We get to test out the much anticipated ship variant, the Python Mk2
We’ve new information on the future of Supercruise Overcharge in the game and we look at some of the new pre-built ships that coming to the ARX store! o7 CMDRs
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5:31 100$ someone is going to take it to Beagle Point, without a carrier, starting the trip the day it becomes available to purchase
Probably gonna do this lol. Put your money where your mouth is!
@@eccodreams Arrive at Beagle Point on the same day it's released, and I'll add $20. LOL
Oh man I wish that were physically possible
It technically is possible, but... You'd need to be a certified madman to pull it off. 😂 Record to BP is 4 and a half-ish hours.
I think it's possible with neutron highway. Maybe like 23 hours but still possible. But the DBX has the highest unengineered jump range and with the guardian FSD booster. It can gooo fast
I'd like to see the Type 8 be a medium size ship, but with a larger cargo capacity than the classic Python
I second that 👍
So basically you want the type 7 to be totally redundant?
@@christopherjohnston6343 T7 is large landing pad only.
Knowing this, you agree?
Of the type 10 is a combat variant of the type 9, it stands to reason the type 8 be the fighter variant of the type 7. Though both of them should be medium sized ships.
@@christopherjohnston6343 Type 7 is already totally redundant. Its only use is to run enough cargo to afford a Python or Type 9.
Seeing a lot of content creators I've never seen before popping up on my feed with obvious click-bait titles about Fdev going P2W. I'm glad you've not only resisted that urge but have given really clean and concise information in a non-biased way. I'd personally never buy these ships but I absolutely would have been interested in the DBX if I was starting out on the unlock process for Guardians. It looks like a good way to get into that fast. Ultimately, this is a good approach to monetisation, I think.
Leave it to fdev to add a large hardpoint and reduce the power distributor size.
Also leave it to fdev to scam newbies with these garbage prebuilts... lol
Exactly what i was thinking.
But luckily the power plant can be buffed a lot by the overcharged engineering and in PvP you don't need your ship to run cold as in AX.
@@Youda00008 you want an armored plant in PvP and I don't know if this one can handle the loadout I have planned, it's small too
A single Class 6 optional is laughable too. So, you’re gonna run a 6Prismo, but no reasonable SCB to buff it? That C4 optional slot will barely fondle a 6Prismo, and then 5/6 boosters, good luck trying to draw out that PowerPlant. Who at FDev thought of these? They clearly didn’t ask anyone who actually gets involved in PvP.
If they hadn't made those compromises people would be screaming bloody murder about it being OP. It's no small wonder they don't release new ships often because people will whine about it no matter what they do.
by the stats i have seen so far it basically is an FDL with more guns, slightly better shields and better handling in overcharged supercruise. Pitch, yaw and roll values are ever so slightly better than an FDL but you would probably have to be an absolute PvP expert to notice the difference. It will be interesting to see how the ship handles the extra weapons energy-wise when using current meta configurations with rails or plasmas.
👍
...we'll have to fly it, feel it turn, accelerate, check the heat, see how well it engineers...
Which is probably just about right. It wil not remove skill as the main factor in Elite Dangerous.
Specialised and very pretty. The SCO is more of an option too 👌
I think Fdev struck a good balance with the starter packages.
I'd love to see a variant of one of the old big three, and maybe a sidey 2?
Will be buying early access this time, just to give a monetary stamp of approval to Fdev's new direction with the game.
yeah they sure did, these are even appealing to existing players.
I am too. Tbh.
100%. This and the Type 8, can't wait for that.
the A class SCO FSDs are good news - I put the current 5C into my Krait II Titan bomber (replacing the pre-engineered 5A) and the jump range dropped from over 25ly to slightly under 10. That's quite a hit.
Watched Ghost Giraffe's stream earlier - the "Pythwo" is such a beautiful ship, and it seems to be a great too.
That mk2 is a thing of beauty... might have to load this back up to check it out
Same here😊
This channe is a go to for no nonsense concise information. Great work guys
Thank you ❤
As always, fascinating news delivered with style.
Thanks for the review. I’ll start saving my credits for its release in August. I’ve already bought a few ARX to cosmetic my Fleet Carrier I bought earlier in the year. I enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work.
I like this change, if it brings in more money for furthering the game for the future👍
Thank you for this review.
Loving the footage, loving the analysis and breakdown.
The flamboyant curves of the Python were almost enough to steal me away from the robust frame of my Lakon... the red deco is enough for me to make the switch. Looks like I returned to the bubble just in time!
Every time I see your intro, it motivates me to grind for my own fleet carrier.
yes getting your carrier i would highly recommend , you would need the initial purchase price plus about the same again for outfitting and upkeep , i use mine for deep space mining ,i wish you good luck 07 commander
@@MAXERNEST Thanks cmdr o7 Was wondering how much would be needed for the upkeep.
@@TheSlayer117 if you stick to essentials, so rearm, refuel and repair then 10mil a week.
..... and you may shutdown the optional modules, when not needed, for saving upkeep. My carrier eats 25m per week, but only 14m when mods are down. 😊
Come join us at the spires, you'll have a carrier in no time. Or, multi-crew with us.
It’s an FDL with more guns and more optional slots. I’m getting one.
good!
More and bigger, may not have the huge hard point but 4 large on their own is pretty damn respectable firepower
It has a firepower that you can't power unfortunately, because of only 6 class power plant and distributor.
@@Youda00008 Frag boat. And it can't perma-boost like the Mk1.
@@Youda00008 not beams or rail guns but plenty of other weapons.
Got my finger on the trigger to buy. A Polarity Black paint job on this thing will be so sleek
o7 thanks for the news!
Please let's hope Frontier introduce the engineering of SCO with some lore. I mean it makes perfect sense (to me) that new tech is not engineerable from the bat, and then once the engineers play around with it they figure out how to engineer it. Be good if they also indicated whether Class B/A are likely to come later or not.
That Python Mk2 sounded like a Titan bomber to me since I don't PVP. A stable SCO to escape the Thargoid interdictions sounds good....except it'll all be over by the time it's available unless you pay Arx :(
I am sure they'll introduce it with lore, as they introduced the prototype with lore too :)
Still 5 Titans left, none with more than 0.15% total damage, so they'll be around for a few more months yet.
At last another beautiful ship to work alongside my FDL in CZs, looking forward to jumping in one as soon as I can - deploy the Arx hose
HGE Farming: Asp Scout with FSD (SCO). it flips around faster than any other ship capable of doing HGEs (efficiently).
I love how there is a niche use for ...everything.
Definitely getting it. And I hope other new ships will have small bonuses like it as well which will make them more unique but not gamebreaking
I wonder if the "unique feature" that was promised with the new ship variants has to do with the A-rated SCO drives. Maybe it's like how only Saud Kruger ships can fit luxury passenger cabins -- maybe only these ship variants can carry A-rank SCO?
6:28 I like the analogy 😂😂😂
Thanks for the video, Type 8 next? interesting!
the starter kits are not as bad as i thought. It seems fine
some creators did jump the gun reaching for the pay-to-win pitchforks. Lets see if they (mentioning no names) address that.
the builds are garbage. absolutely not worth any real money, with how easy credits are to get these days just play the game for 2 days and get a better build...
I agree. I think that people were justifiably concerned about where this might be going, bit it really looks like they're doing it right.
@@raghav1026 That's kinda the point - some people earn that money in an hour of work and want to spend that hour over two days of playing the game, to skip a bit further and check out their desired gameplay more in-depth.
And honestly I find it's a relatively fair way of doing it
No worse than SC
Hopefully it stays tame
And hopefully the new ships are not the only ones who get the sco stability
Looks like it's lived up to my hopes! I might only get it in August but I like what I'm seeing here!
On my birthday - I'm A-OK with that! :D
Time enough for gathering enginering stuff 😊
Nice to see some forward movement in ED
The new Python is just stunning and I will def be getting one next week and taking it for a spin at a hazrez.
Looks like FDev have taken a good look at other games selling ships and went for the reasonable route.
The ship looks stunning. I definitely will be adding one to my collection some day.
But first, I have to get some credits to be able to.
more like coping star citizen
@@BLACKICEXlV star citizen would love to have a finished game haha
@leonardomiotti3181 yes and elite dangerous would love to have devs that care about there fanbase
@@BLACKICEXlV they do, they are good devs, but go play bugizen man haha
@@BLACKICEXlV "More like coping with Star Citizen", you mean. Yes, definitely.
If you meant "copying, then I have to disagree. From what I've heard, ships in Star Citiszen come in at about 100 bucks, that's significantly more than those 10 bucks Elite calls.
Great camera work as always... and I'll be buying 3 (I bought loads of ARX's some time ago to support Elite and now it's time to spend them). I'm going to moth ball all three whilst I upgrade, engineer and paint them. Testing them in a lonely place in space around my carrier and then release them in August. They'll just be mu playthings for now
cool video yet again, Thank you!
Looking forward to get my hands on the new Python 2.0, though I am no PvP player, from what was shared here, it will be a perfect fit for my RP character ingame, I was expecting something like being able to stable flight with the supercruise overcharged FSD , also looking forward to see how that looks like and how much more usable it will be!
Type 8 is the next one? Finally the Panther Clipper arriving?
I love the idea of these ships, good out-of-the-box thinking to increase revenue for fdev, which doesn't break the game, impressive.
Keep it up fdev ❤
Great video as always! Lovin the walkout clips, have those always been there? I am I blocking memories here!? Hmmm... Mark 2 looks great! Looking forward to it's already thought-out repurpose of a prospector loadout for my crew when we go wing mining. I think I can make those internals work... To the questions!
No, but I'm glad to see a real source of income for the company. Here's hoping for something I will want to buy.
Never even considered it. Sounds smaller than a type 9... so, I dunno?
I still want a Corvette-sized Chieftain-style ship
Oh looks like they took the stock beam laser off the AX chief lol, probably a good move for the newbies
Man, it’s a thing of beauty. Hopefully one day we’ll be able to build SCO-capable exploration ships.
I think it's a great idea having these starter ships and will hopefully bring a boost to game content and player count
*Will make for a good Titan bomber:*
*- SCO to get you to the Maelstrom quickly.*
*- 6 utilities for all the Heat Sinks, Caustic Sink Launchers, Thargoid Pulse Neutraliser, Enhanced Xeno Scanner, etc.*
*- High maneuverability and speed for navigating the Titan's Heat Vents.*
*- Plenty of hardpoints for damaging the Heat Core once exposed.*
*- Room left over in both utilities and hardpoints for mounting modules and weapons for dealing with patrolling Scouts and Interceptors, as well.*
the writing on these videos is always phenomenal! the army knife analogy made me laugh outloud
Great looking ship.
This is awesome :)
Great content guy's o7 cmdrs 😊
What size are the sensors and life support?
I was hoping to engineer the parts fully for when I get a feel for it come Tuesday
The "get a leg up" builds are a great idea from FDev. A good balance between to encourage new players through the grind.
I do hope they make the Type 8 a variant of the Type 9... and not the Type 7 :D
Maybe like a medium type 9 looking version that can land on medium landing pads
We need more bricks.
@@musicduck4538 YES, full size brick designed around the limits of M pad
It was always very annoyign for me that Type 7 was on L pad.
I get that they don't want to make it OP so they people don't scream pay-to-win.
But if you add a hardpoint, you can't just downsize a powerplant. You're only gonna be able to use low power weapons in those hardpoints and you can forget about 6x A shield boosters.
I've just restarted ED, deleted my old save. Just got the python and I was thinking doesn't it have a size 7?
More weapons would need more power so this seems a bit odd.
Speed of mamba and 7 class power plant, more maneuverability, tank and hardpoints? U sure its good idea?
@@lblackeight6087 I would honestly prefer if it had an adequate power plant in exchange for some other drawback like being little bit slower or having smaller heat capacity or only 5 utility mounts
Of course it's pay-to-win - you don't pay insurance when it gets destroyed! That's as pay-to-win as it gets! Python 2 it's directly comparable with the FDL with regards to PvP! People will be using it for everything because it mitigates against the risk of PvP.
I think they are doing good, i'm happy for what they have done for now
Very likely going to get the new Python MK2; it's gorgeous!
Will be getting one on May 7th. The sco handling for sure will replace my current Dolphin thats used to hunt for HGE.
Great Video, thank you very much, was curious to hear your take. The prebuilts are, thankfully, better than I expected but in the higher end of adequate so good... the mk2... well, have to fly it of course.. fdev stats versus feel being what they are but visually... oh my... a sexy ship that doesn't look like a bug or defecating frog? ...simply arousing
Amazing review! But what does the new Python look like from the inside?
Ah I found that moment. Missed it the first time I watched:)
It looks amazing and indeed seems to be more PvP oriented in the slots and hardpoints! Very excited for this to hit the shelves (both ARX and ingame). It'll be a perfect BGS gunboat that's ready for PvP should your faction's enemies try to Openly interfere.
So does the jump start ship packs also include some credits for an unexpected rebuy?
Cause it'd be funny if a fresh new commander goes straight in open/in front of a space flowers, with the new shinies only to be popped without spare credits to rebuy.
Apparently they're free to rebuy so long as you're using the stock parts that come with the pack. If you add / change modules you pay to rebuy those only.
No one has said how fast it is. What are pitch amd roll rates? How much boost delay between boosts?
The python mk2 looks like a freakin badass! Can't wait to try this ship!!
Sounds like a nice ship for Powerplay 2.0
Yes right on arrival. I love the ship looks. I also want to spent money on ED to ensure server and development costs are covered. I am totally not PvP but the P Mk2 looks awesome and i just want it in my collection. I like how Frontier Development carefully works around the Pay2Win Issue. Nice Job so far.
The ships are a brilliant new revenue stream for the game
Build it to be a silent/cold running stealth ship, then the PP and distro should be able to handle it. 🤔
I’m not sure if I misunderstood or if it was a typo but the SCO drives will have E-A ratings available assuming the outfitting menu of Ghost Giraffe’s Mars is to be believed. Furthermore assuming these drives are in release conditions they’ll have 12% more optimized mass and 4% more max fuel per jump, extrapolating these numbers to a 6A drive and applying engineering this could get an Anaconda to 94.54ly unboosted… or 378.16 with a neutron boost. I’m unsure if we’ll see A rate drives larger the C5 or if they’ll retain these increased numbers but I’m hopeful.
Also BTW, the MK2 only has 2 C1 internals, one is reserved for the Approach Suite.
What's the rebuy on pre-built ships does the package come with a fist full of dollars for insurance?
Looking forward to seeing the interior - the Python looked a bit '70s
This thing is an instant buy
What a beautiful ship, loving this new focus on Elite, after the Thargoid war it feels like we are getting more stuff and hopefully these new ships will bring in some cash. You could buy a meta pvp ship for arx but you can't buy the skill needed to be good at pvp. Let's hope haulers get some new builds too.
4 Large hardpoints plus a med each for nanite torps and thermal vent beam
Native super cruise overdrive
This is a great combat ship to be sure but I'm thinking about titan bombing or Orthrus killing ATM.
This could be great for that! It will be a weak on the armor but at least you can easily stack 3 module reinforcement mods on it.
Another concern is if that Class 6 Power plant can be engineered to run cold enough
Mk 2 will be the next cutter class shield tank.
So the days of deciding pvp fights by having the greater bladder capacity continue.
Great video i will get the Python mk 2 , i dont tend to buy a lot of stuff from the store , apart from the odd paint skin , so will go for this, with regards the starter ships the diamond back interests me the most , along with the type 6 ,not so bothered about the chieftan as i am not that interested in thargoid content or combat related missions involving that part of the game.
Also i am getting my power play modules that i want now before the big changes , which might make them more difficult to get its a big unknown , they might improve it only to break it :}
o7 🚀
Question to @TheBuurPit if you buy these ships, are they available if you reset the game?
I feel better about the jump starters with how they're handled here. I just hope it stays the same.
FYI @TheBuurPit I think the Python MK2 has only 2 size 1 Optional, as you can't remove the Advanced Planetary Approach Suite :(
It literally looks like a fighter jet, I’m definitely waiting for it’s release.
Very pretty ship! Shame that the regular unlock of the Python MKII doesn't come with a unique paint job to show that you backed early access!
An "Imperial Anaconda" would be great.
So, the Python mk II added another large hardpoint, but nerfed the power distributor as well? Ship no longer has the distributor to power that extra hardpoint, so it's a DPS loss.
No military slots on a combat ship, Class 6 PD and PP for an extra Large hardpoint?
While looking like a Python and sharing its name, it's fairly apparent that this is functionally a completely different ship. Unlike the Krait Mk II and the Krait Phantom that have only minor differences in internals, hardpoints, and performance, the difference between the Python and the Python Mk II is significant. I hope the difference between the Type-8 and presumably the Type-7 it is a "variant" of will prove to be just as varied so as to essentially give us a new ship, even if it is a variant by name.
I hope the Corvette gets a variant
yes
Python MK 2 is bringing me back to ED....along with my CC, and im excited to say the least, the ships gorgeous.
Im surprised at the very limited module slots. Though an extra C3 hard point will be game changing is shes fast. I wonder what her max will be with G5 dirty drag drives. If shes fast she will probably become my go to AX ship.
4:04 "... BUT to give the NEW player a boost..."
Good one! x'D
I love underhanded jokes like that.
Play it straight, keep them guessing xD
really wish we could have that third person view in game
They are really loading up the early access for the Python Mk2 and making it look very appealing for people, like me, that love special items. I original said I would just wait, but if the ship kit and paint job are unique only to the early access and will not be available anymore, I might consider getting it.
I don't think the livery and ship kit will be unique to early access buyers. I am pretty sure that the unique and special feature is the 5A SCO FSD rather then the 5C SCO FSD.
Hearing the guardian equipment still needs unlocks for the non-prebuilt ships is reassuring. It demonstrates they acknowledge that a slippery slope exists. Keep doing that, FDev.
I would love to have chieftan for its canopy view and agillity but in mk2 for better jump range :D
Btw, that New Python looks really cool. I didnt like view from its older version cockpit
The Type 8 must, I repeat must, be zero emissions and fully cloaked with a zero cargo capacity. I mean, all Type 8s over the past ten years have followed this trend. I’ll be right put out if that changes. 🤪
Wait! So next week we're going to be able to engineer SCO frame shift drives?! Also they're going to add A rated ones?!
Yes to Python MkII on May 7th.
As for the Type 8, I need it to hang in a tenuous atmosphere the way that bricks don’t. o7
Given the recent “I don’t need a game to reinforce a cost of living crisis” ARX price hikes, I’m re-evaluating plans to participate in early access.
This how supply and demand works 🤓
I would love for other less used ships to have the same improvement on the sco drive. Ships like the Diamondback Scout or Asp Scout as their names make it sound like reconnaissance ships. Theyre names insinuating they're meant to be in and out quick.
I wonder if the Python Mark II would make a good Titan Killer build.
I would like the Type 8 to be optimised for mining.
Love the 'these initial ships on the Arx store are definitely not pay-to-win'', followed by a review of a ship that definitely looks like an attempt at a pay-to-win ship. Getting some mixed messages here.
Just because the ship is good doesn’t mean the pilot is good.
What about Python Mk2 fuel tank? How many jump it can make in one tank? I really hate FDL for tiny fuel tank.
can't wait to grind and grind more for engineering
(and then engineer the MK2 to lightweight everything to see how far it will jump :D )
I was expecting a fighter hangar.
Haha Keen to try out… space engineers
Did you notice your python stellar came with an A class SCO allowing full range not just speed?
Wait really? Thats awesome
Can we get verification of this? If so, I'm about to drop some ARX!
Saw Ricardos' stream earlier and it seems the jump range might be even higher by a slight margin. Not sure if it was engineered though since he was hovering over FSD's in the outfitting hsop.
@@TheSlayer117 The new SCO FSDs are about 10-15% better than the old equivalents, without any engineering. E.g. 5A SCO vs 5A.
Everyone is going to be replacing all their engineered A-rated FSDs if they want max range ... and as a bonus you get SCO on top, so that's basically going to be a feature on all ships, not 'which one needs SCO?'