#47 Demo Flight in the Tecnam P2012 Traveller Twin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
- This week we got a nice demo flight in the Tecnam P2012 Traveller, which is Tecnams largest aircraft in production. Unfortunately we had some technical difficulties with our GoPros during the flight, but we hope you still enjoy it. Tecnam is an Italian manufacturer, which has been in business since 1948. They used to focus more on the light sport market but also have two twins in their line up. The P2006 which is a 4-seater twin and then this P2012 11 seat commuter aircraft, which can be used for several operations. Test Pilot Francesco visited us in Long Beach to tell us all about it.
You can find more information about the airplane here: www.tecnam.com/aircraft/p2012...
If you have any additional questions in regards to the airplane or are interested in purchasing a Tecnam, please contact me!
#Tecnam #TecnamP2012
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0:00 Intro
0:24 Engine Start
1:45 Taxi
3:38 Run Up
6:15 Take Off
9:30 Missions for the P2012
13:00 Performance and Comfort
16:25 Stalls
19:00 Single Engine Ops
20:26 Steep Approach
21:15 Wrap up
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Boy that “full power” power-on stall got my attention - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Garmin attitude indicator display show that much pitch up! How did it feel in the plane? In the 310 I trained in that type of power-on stall would have been a big no-no, we used half throttle and it still felt like you were pointed straight up. I’m also curious about setting power with prop control only, what system is it allows the pilot to do that, some type of electronic or computer engine control? The steep approach looked awesome! Thanks Rich!
That was very impressive and Rick solid stable. The ECS system handles the loser based on RPMs so MP and fuel automatic from ECS. Very simple. Steep approach was impressive too - don’t know where you would ever need to do that but clearing an obstacle prior to short field landing would be very easy. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Capt. Rich
Thank you!
I had the Italian guy say the TO is a STOL, so the pull hard control back prior to TO roll, n in the lift-off, then ease back..with power adjustments via prop (to 2400)..
What a nice plane, without retracting gear, and the best part is that the cost on an annual just got cheaper and easier.
Have always favored the Caravan, but the Traveler offers the extra safety of having that extra engine. Very nice plane, very solid.
I did a little looking to see how the Traveler stacks up against the Caravan - it seems that although it is not quite as capable in some areas, the operating costs appear vastly lower. That, combined with better safety, a more comfortable interior with better amenities makes me think that this plane could very well steal the Caravan's thunder in at least the commuter sector.
A caravan has a turbine engine
Wow, this is a very nice airplane! Thanks for another great video Rich.
Thank you.
Thanks for the video and very clear explanation from the perspective of a pilot.
Phenomenal technology to handle tactical situations. Loved it!
Been following this aircraft that I found very interesting. Thanks again Rich for taking us along.
Thank you for watching!
The cape air special! See these every day.
many years ago, I did my SOLO on a Tecnam P-92... great project!!!
Thanks Rich for "flying with you" again. Compliments. Impressive flight characteristics make you feel safe in this beautiful twin.
Thank you. Well said about the twin.
Really good video. loved how benign it was in the maintained stall. The automatic run up was really interesting how it reduces pilot work load . Thank you for sharing.
gorgeous aircraft
Look at all that room! Nice.
really cool. nice to see a company making a stab at the short haul niche. nice video
What a clean plane.
thats a very interesting airplane! keep up the exceptional content!
A great plane. Wonderful video! Thank you
Thank you!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Saludos !!!
Man looks a lot like the Britten-Norman BN-2 Islander. Thanks for the video Rich.
It really does. There is a operation out of Camarillo that flew Islanders to Channel Islands for 40+ years. Thanks for watching!
Sure is one nice looking plane. That steep approach was really steep and impressive. Single engine operation and handling seems to be fairly simple and easy. Wish they had a diesel/ jet fuel version for the European market since those 100LL pumps is getting both fewer, expensive and hard to find. Thanks for the ride again Rich
Yeah I’m with you on all your points. Thanks for Rich.
Really enjoying the captions. Pretty funny.
Tecnam are making fantastic Aircraft
fantastic plane enjoy
Very cool airplane. I've seen one once at KFTW and now I know what it's about. Thanks Rich!
Thank you!
Rich I’m glad to be back here on the Channel
First time here and I am falling in love with the channel already!!!!!! 🥰🥰
Thank you!
Impressive aircraft!
Great video and demo. The product: DREAM.
Tecnam looks lie a real winner for that mission segment. When I fly my C206 into KBIL for a COSTCO run I see a flock of them at Cape Air. Funny seeing Cape Air out here in Montana. They were big back east when I flew for Continental Express from KEWR.
This will do just right for family and work .
Wow! I want to be a demo pilot! That steep approach was impressive! Great demo Rich!!!!
Thanks - yeah very impressive!
Once we see something cool with wings by default we go straigt to your TH-cam channel!! Good job!
Haha - thank you!
Great plane..👍
Love your channel… thanks
Thank you!
I used to fly the DHC 6 Twin Otter in Hawaii to some of the smaller airports like Hana and Kalaupapa, Kapalua, West Maui. This would be a great airplane for those smaller airports. What a great airplane! I am a big fan of the Technam P2006T Twin Rotax 4 seater twin also.
Thanks for the message!
So cool!
Looks like a great plane .versatile!
I agree - let’s see how it does in the market!
I've never heard of this aircraft. Very nice!
Thanks for watching.
I'll never get to fly a nice plane like this, but thanks for showing us.
WOW! The best!
This is powerful its real go for it deal
Loved it
Very impressive airplane.
Thanks. I agree.
the steep approach is really impressive
I agree!
good video good aircraft
Bravo
Very impressive flight qualities, nice equipped plane…
Thanks for watching!
This is a cool airplane
Nice plane
Really enjoy your videos with the exception of the obscenely loud music at the lead in!
Thanks. I’ll try to turn that down.
@@FlyingwithRich It's a mistake a LOT of youtube content creators make. Here's how to set it:
1. Use a decent pair of headphones or studio monitors (Best to check with headphones, as overly loud parts are usually more obnoxious on headphones).
2. Set headphone (or monitor) volume, so the typical dialogue volume sounds like you're listening to a conversation with somebody right in front of you, who is speaking clearly.
3. Without changing headphone (or monitor) volume, set the music volume, so it sounds appropriate/ in context to your dialogue reference.
(This process assumes that you've already mixed your dialogue for consistent volume level throughout the video, and applied any necessary post production, such as compression/limiting/AGC etc).
Thank you. Will definitely do it!
A fine upgrade of the Partenavia P68 Victor I saw at the dealership North of L.A. some years ago. Head banging in turbulence was an issue. The five point harnesses good to see.
Was that Channel Islands at CMA?
Good, informative overview video. The auto-generated subtitles are kind of hilarious too. Tks.
Thank you! Yeah and half of the subtitles are actually transcribed by a 3rd party and not auto generated 😂
Looks like a upgrade from the Norman brittan islander one of the best short haul twins in the world.
Great video, the first on the P2012 that pilots would be interested in. The handling qualities seem perfect for a commuter airline with relatively low time pilots and the engines seem much easier to handle than that on the Chieftain. It will be interesting to see what Tecnam comes up with next. Retractable gear would be nice, as would G3000 avionics with touch screen controllers. I'm curious if Tecnam is investigating a diesel option, something like the Centurian 4.0 V8 engine. This would aircraft would be perfect for an earthrounder trip, but avgas is imposible to find in many parts of the world and if you can find it.....it is expensive. One quetion I have is are the throttle leavers left at the full forward position for most of the flight - if power is regulated by the pitch levers. It would be really nice if Tecnam would also put the POH/AFM on their website so prospective pilots/owners could familiarise themselves with the aircraft.
Or tiny turboprops
Surprised they did not fit G3000 in there as well considering the size.
Looks like an upgraded version of the Islander. Beautiful bird though. 👍🏻
Tecnam are marketing a STOL version of this now
I've really liked the Tecnam P2010, wished they had a little more payload/speed as they fall in-between the 172/182 in my opinion.
But man I love the third door!!!!
Rich, your channel is growing in leaps and bounds I think you have hit on the right format, another great and informative video!!!
Thanks Ron. We’ll be picking up a P2010 this week to get a good look at it. I have never flown one.
@@FlyingwithRich
Awesome, looking forward to what your opinion is of it.....
Cool, as always! Would enjoy hearing you speak of the new Hondajet 2600: how good is it, will it make it to production, how long, engins from whom? Thanks
We were just talking about the P2012 last night and this morning!! It all started with the new Cessna Sky Courier. Then the sich w/ Cape Air and the P2012! 8) The Sky Courier is very cool too!! Cape Air is replacing their Cessna 4xx's with the P2012's. We were speculating if they might add some Sky Courier's also. 8) 2- PT6's, very good performance!! I think they were designed for FedEx!? Interesting!! Great ride along, thanks Rich!! 8) --gary
I doubt Cape Air would add the new Cessna as it would mean maintaining two types instead of one, which would be more expensive.
I mostly agree. If they did take on any cargo missions, or anything where more capacity was needed, the brand new Sky Courier would be an excellent choice. It's still single pilot certified, has big capacity, built like a tank and PT6's are so common now they are easy to get worked on! Parts are everywhere. It seems a great value! All things to look for when optimizing the bottom line. 8) Peace.. --gary
Skycourier is basically double the money and 19 seats. For operators who can fill the seats or fill it with boxes it will make a lot sense, but likely a different operator than the P2012. I think you will see Fed Ex phase out the Caravans for Skycouriers over time. We’ll see.
Good video. Nice looking aircraft. It possibly competes a little with the BN Islander, which is still in production, but this is a more modern design with a price that reflects that.
It's amusing to watch with the CC on. "Mission" is often rendered as "bishop," "high duty cycle" is shown as "I did a cycle" and so on.
Tecnam is in my top five for interest.
Esse avião e top demais
Cool italian accent 😉🇮🇹
good demo
Thank you!
@@FlyingwithRich yehhh, good day to you my friend
That is one hell of a plane. Rich what s the VNE and 80% speeds . The Allison 250 or RR 450 hp Turbine could be a match on long flights.
Rich- You, very good Pilot-,because You together with original pilot Francesco from Tecnam flying over Palm Beach piloting brand new-model Tecnam P2012 Traveller from Italy..!!!
I wish You --Good-luck in You mission...
Thank you!
@@FlyingwithRich ok
150 Kt airplane at 40 gals an hour, fixed gear. Not bad, call it 8 pax, Pilot and Co pilot, 10 total. Very nice Stall handling, full power stall just a little right rudder. What kind of anti ice. Probably boots with recip engine. Very nice camera demo sales setup.
Thanks!
Website says it has TKS.
Hi Rich, it would be great to get your opinion on the Tecnam P2006T, light twin engine retractible gear trainer. Just to get an experienced pilot’s perspective as a trainer but also as a personal aircraft. Great videos Rich, greetings from Germany!
Wow not bad
It would be neat if you had a DB meter to measure sound levels in each of these different airplanes.
"We are a cigarette" The subtitles are cracking me up. I'm sure I'll see these out on Nantucket & Martha's Vineyard next year once Cape Air starts taking delivery, if they haven't already.
I think that’s the plan with Cap Air - seems like a perfect fit for them. We had audio problems which seems to be a recurring event. Thanks for watching!
"Level off similar to celery"
Can floaters be mounted onto it for landing on water?
Could see many rolls for this aircraft. It’s a nice looking plane as well. Short medical trans or even ma and pa shuttle cargo sky’s the limit really.
Agreed!
nice
Thanks!
Hi there did I understand properly that you fly this aircraft from take off on with the blue levers which are the prop levers? Thank you very much.
sorry to see this isn't a diesel, thought it was initially... definitely seeming the way to go in the future, in Europe anyway.
cool airplane. I kinda thought that airplane would be a little quicker than what it is.
Seems like a very nice plane and extremely safe with very benign stall and single engine demo. Fixed gear and no pressurization means less complication and cheaper to run. Wonder how sales would go considering it's a piston. Thanks Rich
Good question on the piston component. We’ll see. Thanks for watching!
Turbine power would probably add the better part of a $million to the price.
But depending where the aircraft is flown the difference between the price of jet vs. Avgas needs to be considered.
As for the fixed gear and no pressurization, this seems like a short haul commuter hauler. On the short legs the speed penalty for the fixed landing gear is not a big deal. And on short hops at low altitude the pressurization isn't necessary. Just a heavy expensive fluff.
Perhaps consumer demand may convince Tecnam to explore other engine options later in its life? I've seen that an electric is being trialled in Norway. Maybe a diesel version in the future could be popular where low lead is scarce?@@davem5333
The Tecnam Twin has a future as a short Haul commuter, maybe like Long beach to LAX or Van Nuys, Big Bear or the Springs ??? looks big enough inside to pack Cargo but I didn't notice any big door for that purpose....You Nailed it.... Thanks for the ride...
Thanks for the message and watching!
It does have a big side door for cargo.
Cape Air on the East coast have 30 of these already. I think they have over 60 on order
Great! What I see is yet one more Garmin avionics suite that needs ever constant software updates, especially with every malfunctioning part, that usually eats up my entire day or week and weekend depending on exactly what degree of 'Oh Sh--" we're into with an owner/operator screaming about warranty through the whole process. Cheers!
Looks pretty nice. I personally hate the p2006 after working in them for a few years but this seems pretty good. Better cowlings with the new engines. Interior looks like it would break less after wear. Having it with fixed gear doesn’t mean I have to curse at the tail panels fir the pump and hopefully they moved the relays. I’d just need to see about the brake system and the brake rotors themselves. The brake rotors on a p2006 are barely bigger than a light sport category aircraft and like to bend if over heated and over used as compared to a da40 which has a much bigger break rotor with both aircraft having similar empty weights
Thanks for the feedback - so important to get the service/reliability right on a working airplane like this!
Looks like it has some mission crossover with a Caravan. Slow, unpressurized....but carries a lot of stuff.
Nice airplane, I believe Cape air are replacing their twin cessna fleet with these.
You are correct. Thanks for watching!
Interesting video. Pity about the low sun angle.
Agree!
Love a PC24
Nice, aircraft where my elbows are not stuck in the side of my co :) ... is it just me, but those panels seem to move a lot when operating switches and push buttons. Nice video! $2.6 Million, on the pricey side but certainly cheaper than a TBM 940 at $4.3 Million which seems to require more care/maintenance. Seems to be a very stable and solid workhorse aircraft with low operating costs.
The TBM doesn't have near as much interior room or the ability to carry cargo. The TBM is a sports car and this is an SUV.
@@TexanUSMC8089 You cant compare this pice of Junk to a TBM
Wow, what all piston twins should be like.
Thanks for watching!
So silent....👍👍👌👌
You probably scared the crap out of people on ground with that steep approach. 😅 That's a beautiful airplane though. There's competition for cessna's new sky courier I think they call it ?
Skycourier is a larger airplane and has PT6s. Pretty much double the useful load, 200KTS, and $5.5M - $6M - so in a different class.
How do they achieve that control with the wings stalled. Is it washout, aileron mods or what? very nice though. No wing drop stall though 🙂
I’m not sure but a very nice ride.
I passed on this plane, and honestly not regretting it, but cool video non the less
Thank you. Did you buy something else?
@@FlyingwithRich hired to fly something else
Thanks!
Rich , my wife saids that I don’t love her anymore since I only wants to watch you flying !
Haha! It’s only 20 minutes once a week!
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Great video Rich and this looks like a seriously nice airplane. I can't help but wonder how this machine compares to the Grand Caravan, in performance and load capacity. Obviously not going to carry as many people in the P2012 vs the GrandVan but I'm thinking about freight? The GrandVan, in my understanding, will carry up to 1200kg with full fuel and then planning happens at 165kts. Cost of purchase and ownership on this will be materially cheaper... Your thoughts?
Grand Caravan standard useful load based on standard airplane which is pretty light (no options) has more like a 1800kg useful load. Similar P2012 has a 1360kg useful load. Max seating in both airplanes is 10 but one of the things I was most impressed with in the P2012 was the feel of cabin and seating - it just had a very comfortable, airline feel to it. Obviously, the Caravan will be stiff competition for the P2012 but I see some advantages to it and I think it I’ll do well in the market, but won’t happen over night. Thanks for watching.
@@FlyingwithRich thanks Rich. Any indication of price for the P2012?
@@StrandManna ... I believe that it’s priced right around 2.6 mil... depending on specs of course
Sounds like he's flying with Furio from the Sopranos...
Pretty plane. Cape Air uses Tecnam I think.
Yeah - unique airplane I hope the sell a ton of them.
That steep approach was impressive, but how do you prevent shock cooling those big expensive 540s?
Cool them off before the descent if you can. Don’t do it often.
Tem q filmar sempre a decolagem e o pouso
Nice aircraft Rich …. When did Christiano Ronaldo become a demo pilot?🤣🤣👍
Haha good one!
Very impressive could it be used as Bush plan like the Kodiak?
It could be - it’s rugged and has great short field performance but I believe Kodiak has shorter TO & Landing performance.