The Plane that Turns Backyards into Runways

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  • The Helio Courier is a brute of a STOL plane with a very rich history, dating back to the post-war era. Loved by both military and civilian operators, the Courier required a skillful pilot to master, but in the hands of an experienced aviator, could perform magic on runways and in the air.
    Now approaching nearly 75 years since its birth, the Courier is slowly becoming a relic and sadly, its numbers are dwindling. One devoted aviation group in Alaska is working hard to change that!
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    Learn about JAARS and their noble mission, and how the Courier allowed them to operate where no other plane could:
    www.jaars.org
    Special thanks goes to the great folks below who graciously allowed me use of their footage:
    Brian Uretsky: / @brianuretsky
    Lukas Stutzer: / @helioalaska8285
    Also shout out to Mike Mower from JAARS with a lot of great information about the Helio. Fewer guys know it inside and out!
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  • @ducttapetech9885
    @ducttapetech9885 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    I flew the the Helios for a fishing lodge in Alaska. We installed helicopter airspeed indicators in ours because they registered airspeed from zero up. We flew on floats down to around 35 mph and, in a headwind, it was easy to earn tips by wowing the tourists by 'helicoptering up' in an absolutely vertical 'elevator' ascent. Incidentally , the Helios's nickname is 'the poor man's helicopter'. In heavy fog, we would inch our way forward at treetop level using a technique called 'hanging it on the prop' which meant pulling off the throttle to decrease the air speed and, as the nose was pulled up to maintain altitude, power was gradually added. Eventually a guy could get the ship up to full power with the nose at a very high angle of attack permitting plane to travel in level flight at a ground speed of around 15 mph. The trick was to get the rig into the 'zone of negative control' where pushing the yoke forward would cause the the ship to rise and pulling back would cause the plane to descend. I could go on for hours about the tricks a guy could pull in the 295.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Thanks for the tip! Trust me I could go on for hours listening. I love deep diving on these planes and it was a treat to learn about the Helio. I figure she deserved some exposure here on youtube 👍🤘

    • @brightymcbrightface
      @brightymcbrightface วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'd like to invite you to share more about your experience with the Helios.

    • @AlanMydland-fq2vs
      @AlanMydland-fq2vs วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      that and rhe turbine❤❤❤

    • @Kevin_747
      @Kevin_747 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      My dad replaced a Hughes 269 with our Courier.

    • @cargopilot747
      @cargopilot747 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ducttapetech9885 Sounds great. Just hope the engine doesn’t quit while nose high at low airspeed. You’ll need some altitude to recover.

  • @rheinmoses29
    @rheinmoses29 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Many decades ago, in 1936, there already was such an aircraft in Germany, the Fieseler Storch Fi 156. For takeoff, the Storch needed 50 meters in headwinds and 20 meters for landing.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yup, the Storch was definitely a pioneer STOL airplane. Which is why I did not claim the Helio as the 1st stol plane. The Helio employed quite a few fearures from the Storch, such as the slotted wings. The Helio, however, could carry 6 passengers, so that was a novelty.

    • @dkoz8321
      @dkoz8321 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Anything that ever flew with swastica in WW2 is verbotten and illegal.

  • @nyuscdjs
    @nyuscdjs 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Thanks for having my Helio H295 in the video! N295LA.

  • @Kevin_747
    @Kevin_747 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I grew up on a farm 40 miles from the Helio factory in Pittsburg, KS. My dad leased a Courier from '69 to '72. Factory pilot Larry Montgomery would drop in to our airstrip often. My dad used our Courier in his pipeline patrol business. I have many fond memories of our Courier.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you visit the factory often?

    • @1dariansdad
      @1dariansdad วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I wonder if we ever crossed paths. My dad was a land man in KS and OK.

    • @dougdarby3564
      @dougdarby3564 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Im a Joplin native Before I was born my dad commuted to and from Pittsburg taking classes there I was born in 56

  • @Conn653
    @Conn653 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    A great multi-purpose aircraft. Glad to hear that someone is reviving this marvelous plane 🙂

  • @flycatchful
    @flycatchful วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    You did an excellent job of defining its history and capabilities.

  • @TRabbit1970
    @TRabbit1970 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    It doesn’t defy physics. It merely using great engineering to leverage physics to the hilt.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Agree. Just some good ol hyperbole, lol

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The phrase has always been "...SEEMS to defy physics" which is perfectly correct - but for some reason more and more people have started corrupting it into just "defies physics" which destroys the entire meaning.

  • @crystalclarity6766
    @crystalclarity6766 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    What an aesthetically pleasing, capable little aircraft. If I were younger and still flying, I’d love to own one! Thanks for this excellent video!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks for watching! As far as age, I'd venture a guess that most Courier owners are well retired. Go for it!

  • @EdwardKelly-vi9sg
    @EdwardKelly-vi9sg 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    ...NOTHING TO SEE HERE BUT AWSOMENESS...LOVE THE HISTORY LESSONS...👍

  • @pcowdrey
    @pcowdrey วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Wonderful airplane. I hated to see it fade away. Love to see it return. The long fuselage helps it to avoid nosing over in hard braking and looks great along with the large vertical tail. Excellent design to this day. =PC=

  • @aircraftadventures-vids
    @aircraftadventures-vids  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Hope you folks enjoyed this brief documentary on the amazing Helio Courier.
    Don’t miss out on these next brief documentaries on more badass planes.
    Globe Swift ➡ th-cam.com/video/4Wf2RYJihuU/w-d-xo.html
    Dyke Delta ➡ th-cam.com/video/VSGE0rvhy4U/w-d-xo.html
    Fletcher Defender ➡ th-cam.com/video/q-8FQfH6K4g/w-d-xo.html
    Questair Venture ➡ th-cam.com/video/VfkmvqXSwW4/w-d-xo.html

  • @davidmcintosh7563
    @davidmcintosh7563 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Great video! I love learning about the unique machines that were designed and built over the years.
    There’s a Courier that lives locally to me and I’m friends with the owner. I think it’s about time I go ask for a ride.
    I appreciate the detail you went into describing the evolution of the plane. I had no idea… but now I’m smarter! Cheers!

  • @ramenhausten
    @ramenhausten 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Didn’t know this jewel existed how epic !

  • @ernieszelepcsenyi5710
    @ernieszelepcsenyi5710 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Awesome video and very well researched! I got to fuel the one in the Alaska Aviation Museum, N6319V, in 1994 when it came to the FBO I was working at far away from it's home in Ottawa, Canada. What a cool aircraft!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! I had a lot of fun producing this one.

  • @Newstatejournal1
    @Newstatejournal1 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Excellent job on this video and such a remarkable airplane!

  • @billybud9557
    @billybud9557 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fab history of a little known plane. Never flew one, always wanted to. Thanks for vid

  • @marlinweekley51
    @marlinweekley51 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Meet the zenair 801 180hp - can land in deep grass/weeds too - no small tailwheel. Flies at 35 kts , 4 pass, fits in shed with 32’ wide doors and almost impossible to stall. Got a wide load - pin the doors up to the wings and load up bicycles, 2x4x8’ etc. Love my 801 😀

  • @scottminshall6420
    @scottminshall6420 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video! There used to be a guy in the late 90's early 2000's that was at the Palomar (KCRQ) airport in Carlsbad, CA that was the Helio guru. He had like 5 or 6 parked at his place all the time. Definitely a cool machine, The company I worked for at the time looked at getting one but due to support for the airframe getting harder, we ended up buying a Cessna Caravan instead.

  • @ZelenskyTheMadClown
    @ZelenskyTheMadClown วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    that's a plane that looks really eager to fly.

  • @MrHws5mp
    @MrHws5mp วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The Pilatus PC-6 Turbo-Porter has just as impressive a STOL capability and has been considerably more commercially successful - well worth a video about that one.

    • @ernestoherreralegorreta137
      @ernestoherreralegorreta137 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True. Also wondering why it did not take market away from the Cessna 180/185 ?

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They are different machines...different price point, different fuel burn, the Porter is much larger, plus a bit longer takeoff role. I don't think they really compete - but the Porter has a huge advantage with a turboprop, seeing that it's becoming impossible to buy avgas in some countries. Which is why JAARS replaced them in their missions today. As to a video, I think the Porter is already very well covered, whereas there's no documentary on the Helio. (plus, i'm fond of old piston airplanes, lol)

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Different mission, different machine (although the Cessna is much more practical airplane)

    • @MrHws5mp
      @MrHws5mp วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids Fair. On reflection, the Porter was more a competitor for the Stallion than the Courier.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MrHws5mp 100% 👍

  • @EssensOrAccidens
    @EssensOrAccidens 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really enjoyed this video about such a capable and useful aircraft. Thank you for posting.

  • @scottwoodworth6433
    @scottwoodworth6433 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You mentioned they were used by police departments for surveillance, but I only know of one. The Pima County Sheriff's Department started using them in 2000 and had two of them they used for patrol support. They had a camera system and huge spotlight. Eventually both were converted to Turboprops.

  • @cargopilot747
    @cargopilot747 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    One thing that could help an updated version of the Helio Courier is distributed propulsion. While retaining an engine in the nose, each wing could have two or three 10 kW motors and propellers. They might have to be mounted from the wing's lower surface so as not to interfere with the slats. Or, the slats could be segmented into shorter units to allow the low-drag nacelles and props to be mounted to the leading edge. The motors could be shut down during cruise flight while the engine keeps running (and recharging the batteries). Several experimental aircraft have this arrangement. Even an AN2 (large biplane) was so equipped.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      That sounds...a bit complicated? But i love the thinking

    • @cargopilot747
      @cargopilot747 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids The Electra Hybrid STOL is one that uses the concept. Their effort may well be successful, but the Courier has some great features. Maybe the two ideas wouldn’t work well together but it would probably be simpler and more effective than the twin that Helio tried. I’ll try to post a link to the YT video on the Electra below, but I’m guessing it won’t work.

    • @cargopilot747
      @cargopilot747 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids m.th-cam.com/video/5mM9QPcOgeI/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUsU3VwZXIgc3RvbCBlbGVjdHJpYyBhaXJwbGFuZSBtb3RvcnMgb24gd2luZ3M%3D

  • @geobullock759
    @geobullock759 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    good show ! I hope Helio can make a comeback.The sound of that geared Lycoming is a treat , not like that shrieking prop noise of a 180 at take off. will probably be a prat and whitney pt-6 turbo prop

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I confess that NO piston engine nor blade noise turns me off, lol (unless you're up in alaska and hear it every day). But I do agree that the geared Lycoming is wonderful to listen to. About 20 years ago I recall a trigear Helio slowly flying in circles around my neighborhood, it was a nice symphony playing above me.

  • @DeereX748
    @DeereX748 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I got to take a ride in a JAARS Courier at a local grass field fly-in several years ago. He did max-performance take-off and landing and it was truly impressive. I read that there is now a turboprop conversion available for surviving Couriers using the PT6A and it gives as good performance as the original geared engines.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You might have met Mike Mower, who helped educate me on many aspects of the plane. He's a real Helio Wizard.

  • @benchracing_network
    @benchracing_network 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    My very first flight in a GA aircraft was in a Helio Courier, specifically N62JA at a JAARS day at their airport in Waxhaw decades ago. In a "Wow, the world is small but Alaska is smaller" instance, I had to go to Alaska for work about a year ago. I was making small talk with the Turo host who picked me up in Anchorage after noticing an Iditarod Air Force sticker on the back of the jeep. I mentioned that I had seen a clip of 62JA at a STOL competition in Alaska just a couple weeks before. He said he knew the current owner (and apparently, owner of the type certificate now?) of 62JA. Cool to see it feature heavily in this video.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Alaska seems like the perfect environment for the Courier

    • @bayonetsandbrass
      @bayonetsandbrass 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids For sure. My boss is actually from Palmer AK and his dad was a flying doctor and had one in the 60s and 70s.
      I also made my comment before the bit about the gents up in Chugiak who own the type certificate in the video.
      Awful lot of Alaska connections for a dude from NC.

  • @jfaignant400
    @jfaignant400 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hopefully it can be brought back into production at cost that makes it accessible it individuals and small operators

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm with you!

    • @alexdoerstling6983
      @alexdoerstling6983 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There is 2 outfits starting production. One for the Stallion and one for the Piston.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm aware of the piston...but not the Stallion! Man I wish them both luck, would be great to see both flying together at Osh one day

  • @deborahbabcock5309
    @deborahbabcock5309 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great podcasts about the Helio
    I was fortunate enough to enjoy looking at a Helio Stallion in the early 70s It was whangarei at De Ridder airport in Louisiana
    Amazing aircraft. Turbines in private aircraft were rare at that time

  • @diggy-d8w
    @diggy-d8w 57 วินาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not a pilot but these planes I see flying about mostly in Alaskan Airspace are almost unbelievable in how
    they get up/down from the sky. I'm going to watch this again, planes like this are impressive to me. peace

  • @CyberSystemOverload
    @CyberSystemOverload วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Hope it works out with the brand new Courier. Will be nice with full glass cockpit, center stick and 800shp turboprop with 5 swept blades.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Someone in the comments mentioned that there's an effort in place to revive the Stallion, well there you go!

    • @CyberSystemOverload
      @CyberSystemOverload วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids So cool, fingers crossed! Mike Petey's Draco kind of gave a glimpse into what a new Courier would look like and be capable off. I know that plane was a modded Wilga but wow a bling Courier in that vibe would be awesome!

  • @mochabear88
    @mochabear88 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    ty

  • @bradcrosier1332
    @bradcrosier1332 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always thought it was a cool aircraft. There was one based at my hometown airport while I was working on my private certificate. I was there one day when it was ground-looped, fortunately with no significant damage as I recall.

  • @dkoz8321
    @dkoz8321 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pa and Grandpa of STOL of conventional aircraft is Swiss Pilatus. Uncle is Norman-Britten Islander. Helio is more like forgotten distant cousin.

  • @mustang51hy
    @mustang51hy วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Well done!

  • @Paladin1873
    @Paladin1873 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It may be difficult to crash, but it's not impossible. I saw one that crumped at my hometown airport in Florida when I was learning to fly in the early 1970s. The good news was the cabin remained intact and nobody was killed.

  • @steveasher9239
    @steveasher9239 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great plane. Great video. Thanks

  • @cesarvidelac
    @cesarvidelac วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A tail dragger that doesn't tip over is fantastic. I have played in the X-plane simulator for Android for about ten years and still tip over the Dakota and the Piper Cub 😅 I'd love to fly this beauty for real! Thanks for sharing, subscribed!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the sub! And drop in the comments later what you think about the Courier in x-plane (just don't groundloop it!)

  • @jurianmisawayee1138
    @jurianmisawayee1138 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I got to visit the new owners of the Helio Courier type certificate in Birchwood, Alaska. They are updating it with more bush mods with a test Courier

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I spoke quite a bit with the new owner, am really excited to see what they come up with.

  • @OGChubbi
    @OGChubbi 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember my dad telling me stories of his great uncle and him flying his uncles Helio they would take off and do figure eights about 10 feet off the ground right as they took off and then they would climb out over there house at a 45° nose up attitude and push the nose down at 1000ft haha those planes are something else he eventually put floats on it and flew it back and forth from Fremont MI to Ontario Canada and further every other year. Bird still Flys to this day! Just as powerful as the day she rolled off the line beautiful machine!!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The planes can only do what the pilot makes them do - so I'd say, your uncle was something else! 👍. Tx for sharing.

  • @josephliptak
    @josephliptak วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I remember in the 1970s someone had one of these planes parked in his front yard next to his house. Took off and landed in the backyard.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would have loved to be his neighbor! I'd be bumping rides all the time, lol

  • @chuckcawthon3370
    @chuckcawthon3370 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There was a Helio Dealership at my home airport F46 in the early 70’s.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I take it the runway was only 500 ft long, right?

    • @chuckcawthon3370
      @chuckcawthon3370 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids
      In those days it was 2300’ asphalt, nowadays I believe it’s landlocked at 3300’ long. I remember both demo planes were painted the same but one was a tricycle gear. During landing
      I could hear the slats popping in and out as they were put thru their paces.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chuckcawthon3370 ah yes they are loud!

  • @jamesgudobba2974
    @jamesgudobba2974 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The winner of these years sol, landing in less than 7ft, taking off in 5ft

  • @Waveluth
    @Waveluth วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You learn something new everyday huh!
    Great video!!!
    ✌️🇺🇸

  • @cagneylou
    @cagneylou 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video!

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    10:20 And I bet MORE love their "Super Cubs"!

  • @fuggly007
    @fuggly007 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There was a book I read back in the late 80’s when I flew a Helio, said how the CIA manufactured them in Asia as there was a disagreement with the manufacturer. Anybody else heard of this?

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I read about that too! I was on the fence whether to talk about that but it would detract from the intent of the video. But I read that supposedly 1/2 the production of Couriers were CIA-built (with NO serial numbers).

    • @fuggly007
      @fuggly007 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids it mentioned about a pilot going to pick up Helio No13But he found it being assembled, was told it was the wrong number13, his was around another corner. Great vid, thanks

  • @iansampson2492
    @iansampson2492 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video. My Dad was Chief of Design at Helio in Bedford MA in late 60s into early 70s. He worked on the Stallion and other things with various arms of govt...lol..The Twin Courier is a big mystery ...curious...How many who contracted ...where ...and what happened to them..That original Helioplane is in one of the Smithsonian facilities ...one that i dont think open to public ..Garber..Curious too all the high lift devices on the Courier and Stallion are quite old...late 30s in some cases..I dont think the design will come back because the cost of manufacturing would be exorbitant with all its mechanisms..I remember meeting Lynn Bolinger in Concord Ma Nashawtic Hill Rd ..1970...

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Damn! Thanks for sharing your experience. You’ll be happy to know that there’s a group of dedicated Courier people who are working hard on bringing it back again!

  • @PDZ1122
    @PDZ1122 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Notice how Courier pilots don't bother with the fashionable STOL cowboy technique of shoving the nose down first and then slamming the tail back down before taking off, believing it somehow shortens the run.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not sure the landing gear position would allow for that anyways.

  • @mikestone9129
    @mikestone9129 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only plane that ever really came close to the HC was the Pilatus Porter. I flew the Porter in SE Asia and it's built like a tank. We use to call it a flying Timex because it could take a licking and keep on ticking.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Porter replaced the Courier in JAARS missions, but mainly because of the lack of avgas, which is the Courier's largest shortcoming (out the US at least). The porter is one bada$$ plane for sure

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There's one at the Royal Thai Air Force Museum at Bangkok, along with a Spitfire XIV, a Fairey Firefly, a Mig 21 and a bunch of other interesting types. No placard. I recognized it due to the round window at the back.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      No placard? Maybe the museum hasn't identified it yet 😂

    • @iskandartaib
      @iskandartaib วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, it was probably being replaced or something of the sort.It was one of the outdoor exhibits.

  • @ADAPTATION7
    @ADAPTATION7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Such interesting airplanes back in the 60s. When they were affordable, of course.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Affordable is relative, people were making way less money, but there were way less barriers to learn to fly (and ownership was easier, as a result) My dad bought a war surplus BT-13 for $900 in 1952.

    • @ADAPTATION7
      @ADAPTATION7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids Just like owning a house I guess.

  • @6by6by6
    @6by6by6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My father was involved with and president of our states chapter of The International Flying Farmers, The owner of a well know large nursery stock producers owned one of the eight cylinder versions of the Helio Courier and I can attest to the fact every time he took off everyone stopped to look and admire that bird.. He had a custom executive leather interior with 6 passenger seats, He would fly his National & international buyers around to his various growing locations which each had suitable runway’s on sight.. J Frank Schmidt & Son Co. Boring Oregon…

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That sounds like a fun ride! The flat-eight is one of my favorite engines.

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    No need to imagine a plane that can take off from my back yard.
    I don't have a back yard.
    On the other hand, a WWII era Storch could manage it from my SIDE yard - and some of the kit-plane versions need even LESS space.

  • @billyblackmon4796
    @billyblackmon4796 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i saw one twice in Viet Nam. the first at Cu Chi asked if he could take the midfield taxiway in the air. I was tower. I said if you can. he did. another at Tay Ninh was Air America and sold me a 45 cal burp gun with a drum for $50, I never fired it and was to scared to try to smuggle it home. Amazing airplane. I have always wished to have one. to late now

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would LOVE to fly one of these OUTSTANDING aircraft. Much better than the Pilatus Porter!.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I wouldn't say it's better, the Pilatus is one incredible machine. But yeah I'd like to fly a Courier too!

  • @DonTruman
    @DonTruman 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting, had never heard of it.
    I'm not a pilot, but have watched a lot of videos by Pilot Debrief that analyze the causes of crashes. This seems to solve many of those.
    If I heard it all correctly, these were the down-sides:
    1. Difficult to control at slow speeds.
    2. Difficult to maneuver on the ground due to the long wheelbase.
    3. Expensive.
    4. Heavy.
    5. Complex.
    And I presume "heavy" also means lower fuel economy, as well as lower cargo capacity.
    And I presume 3-5 are due to the large control surfaces, and that's probably unavoidable even with the latest technology today.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love Hoover's channel! As to your points, all correct - consider the Courier a very niche product, that does what it does very well, but at a price of course.

  • @9MDK9
    @9MDK9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice

  • @Sylver9898
    @Sylver9898 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ah.. the Helio Courier, my second favourite aircraft.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, don't hold back...which is your first? do tell!

    • @Sylver9898
      @Sylver9898 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids The Falcon XP is my #1 favourite aircraft of all time; the canard Ultralight I talked to you about.

  • @artyfuffkin7805
    @artyfuffkin7805 43 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    Plus a 15 knt headwind helps

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    "James, I think I'll take a Sunday jaunt....I'm in the mood for a leisurely ride, so warm up the "Courier," not the "Lear"......

  • @henrydegan6204
    @henrydegan6204 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not bad, welcomr to the club of the Fieseler Storch and the Pilatus PC6

  • @GripItNRipIt82
    @GripItNRipIt82 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That flat 8 lycoming is going hurt at the pump though!

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep! You can have your very own Courier.....for several HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS! And that's the price they were going for in the 1980s, when I read about the airplane. They may cost millions, by now. You can get a Zenith Air STOL 701 for a tiny fraction of that price, and it has similar short-field performance.

  • @N1inSK
    @N1inSK 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds like a col aircraft. But sadly, the Pilatus Porter mentioned in the video is not also out of production.

  • @josesbox9555
    @josesbox9555 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    My hangar neighbors are trying to rebuild them.

  • @gerardjohnson2106
    @gerardjohnson2106 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    👍👍👏👏🇺🇲🇺🇲
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove
    @Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It seems like the experimental market (kit plane) should tackle this design.

  • @bidenisasnake9932
    @bidenisasnake9932 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And you have to be an Elite to own it.

  • @Fabriktr977
    @Fabriktr977 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The airplane 77C you show in the ground loop is not a helio courier. It looks like a C-170 to me. Substitutions are not appreciated and besmirch the HC.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, it's video of 170 alright. As an aviation enthusiast, it never occurred to me that anyone would ever confuse the two, but I could see a casual viewer to mix them up..yeah, no bueno. But I can't edit it now

  • @808bigisland
    @808bigisland วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fieseler’s Storch comes to mind. This here is much prettier.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      True, once I was already 1/2 through production it came to mind but I figured it would convolute the narrative. But at least I didn't make a claim it was the "first" ever STOL plane, lol.

  • @cargopilot747
    @cargopilot747 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great presentation. I love the graphics and audio at 2:18 🤣🤣 Many years ago I worked at an FBO in Arizona that had a Helio Stallion hangar queen. Its tires were nearly three feet in diameter. It was there for months. Never saw it fly. One day it was gone.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hopefully someone saved it! You wouldn't happen to know the tail number?

    • @cargopilot747
      @cargopilot747 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids No, too long ago.

  • @kixigvak
    @kixigvak วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great airplane as long as the wings don't fall off.

    • @kenhurley4441
      @kenhurley4441 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would they fall off? I wonder what the "G" ratings are on this plane.

  • @bensmith7536
    @bensmith7536 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    01:07 wow look at that fin. This plane was made for a different purpose.

  • @trappedinkalifornee
    @trappedinkalifornee 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    And if you like the courier you would be wild about the helio stallion …..

  • @ernestoherreralegorreta137
    @ernestoherreralegorreta137 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder what were its disadvantages, if any, compared with the Cessna 180/185 Skywagon?

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well there are few, and it turns out that it's a widely discussed topic on backcountry message boards.
      a) Slower plane on same HP (therefore, higher fuel burn) b) Geared engine that requires more maintenance c) Lower TBO d) harder to source parts e) MANY more 180-185's produced, therefore much easier to support. Still, for some missions, the Helio will still reign supreme.

    • @ernestoherreralegorreta137
      @ernestoherreralegorreta137 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids Thank you. (c) to (e) are, IMO, "acquired" disadvantages (ie. resulting from not taking a large enough share of the interest and market). I grew up flying on my dad's series of C-185's and I have always been in love with that beautiful plane. I wonder if, when equipped with all the aftermarket STOL enhancements it could do even better than the Helios excepting slow flight, of course...but that would be for the Cub owners to claim, I suppose.

    • @RPHeliopilot
      @RPHeliopilot วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Helio Alska's H295 has won the heavy touring class at the Valdez STOL competition the past few years, outperforming the Cessnas.

    • @lrearl497
      @lrearl497 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A real wheel-barrow on the ground.

    • @ernestoherreralegorreta137
      @ernestoherreralegorreta137 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RPHeliopilot I see. That settles it for me. It's good to know, thank you.

  • @johnharrison-sg8tv
    @johnharrison-sg8tv 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yeah great plane , but it just combined a lot of well established STOL principals.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      and to that point, it does it very well. It's a niche product.

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you can afford one, you won't need to take off from your "back yard," you'll have your own, personal, 5000 ft. airstrip....and maybe your private "FBO," to go with it!

  • @kenhurley4441
    @kenhurley4441 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To the company in Alaska,,,,, look at an engine that runs on auto fuel. They're out there. Higher rpm's which give better torque and less expensive (didn't want to use the word cheaper) to operate, purchase, and overhaul! 4 cyl putting out 200 H.P. and Turbo'd!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Auto conversions have been out for a long time but typically plagued by the issues - unable to run at high speeds for a long time, weight, etc. FAA sure doesn't like them either. It's a tough nut that people have been trying to crack forever. I read about about a guy who did an LS swap on a Bede-4. Was a bit scary to read about, lol.

  • @tomthx5804
    @tomthx5804 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Oh, never mind. I thought the thumbnail said "King of Stool"

  • @FlyingBuzzard
    @FlyingBuzzard 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great aircraft BUT will never fly in or off my backyard........LOL

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Why not? Just mow the grass!

    • @FlyingBuzzard
      @FlyingBuzzard 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@aircraftadventures-vids Because it is surrounded by trees and power lines cross the lower half....LOL

  • @Lurch-Bot
    @Lurch-Bot 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    My RANS S-12 can do most of these things. And after I do a major overhaul and some redesign, it will have automatic leading edge slats and be able to do everything the Helio Courier can do, flight profile-wise. The S-12 will never carry as much cargo as the HC. The Helio Courier was basically like a modernized version of the Fi156 Storch.
    I would take Lindbergh's assessment of the Flivver with a grain of salt. He had likely never flown a plane as light as the Flivver and was probably mostly just having trouble adjusting to flying such a light plane. Smaller, lighter aircraft are more challenging to fly and Lindbergh's first plane weighed about 3x as much as the Flivver. Besides, Lindbergh was a fascist antisemite so who cares what he thought anyway?
    The S-12 is considered to be highly stall and spin resistant too. There is no such thing as stall- or spin- proof. I have both stalled and spun the S-12 and could likely do the same in a Helio Courier.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Rans produces great products! I briefly met Randy Schlitter at sun n fun in the mid-90s. This was after his disastrous experiment with the Rans Pursuit, which was one of most amazing kitplane designs of the 90s (and one he would probably prefer you not know about)

  • @kenjohan
    @kenjohan 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    No, it certainly doesn't defy physics or any aerodynamic laws.

  • @anotherflyer
    @anotherflyer 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    COOYRIER. LOL.

  • @AlexSandroRocha-l8w
    @AlexSandroRocha-l8w วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Show

  • @bv9613
    @bv9613 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Defy physics? I don’t think so

  • @niviuk8335
    @niviuk8335 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just a Fieseler Storch Copy

  • @alexandercochrane-y1o
    @alexandercochrane-y1o วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not sold. If it was that good it'd still be here like the 172

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's like saying "Tractors don't sell as well as Honda Civics, therefore, tractors are a failure"

    • @RB-bd5tz
      @RB-bd5tz วันที่ผ่านมา

      a) As stated in the video, it faded because of it's old, unsupported engine. b) It also said a company in Alaska is trying to revive it.

  • @bluebear6570
    @bluebear6570 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A blatant copy of The Fieseler Fi 156 "Stork" of 1935!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not a copy at all. That's like saying all STOL planes are copies. It did however use same similar elements such as the slatted wings (which, by the way, already existed by the time the Storch came out)

  • @drott150
    @drott150 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's neither stall or spin proof. No airplane is.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Technically correct, but it's hard to get it into a stall.

    • @imthatimvernon
      @imthatimvernon วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You obviously haven’t flown one…you have to work real hard to stall or spin one ….great plane to fly tagging grizzly bears and tracking them in Yukon and NWT IN EARLY 70s

    • @drott150
      @drott150 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@imthatimvernon I'm an aerospace engineer. Tell me more about how it's "stall proof." lol

  • @dscott130
    @dscott130 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    😅😂

  • @drifter503
    @drifter503 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great plane, that’s too bad about the engines…

  • @XRakkgruntX
    @XRakkgruntX วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I flew fixed wing singles for a long time but I have a gyrocopter now. 1000% less headaches, low and slow and maintenance is easy and inexpensive compared to fixed wing annuals. I fly for fun now so no real need for anything else… at the moment. 🚡🚁✈️

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’d to fly in a gyro one day! Love them (as I should…see my channel avatar)

  • @rheinmoses29
    @rheinmoses29 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Many decades ago, in 1936, there was such an aircraft in Germany, the Fieseler Storch Fi 156. For takeoff, the Storch needed 50 meters in headwinds and 20 meters for landing.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Certainly, the Storch was a pioneer in STOL design (which is why I stopped short of calling the Courier the first stol plane).