I'm sorry but mfs come into comments like 'mathematician here' like they're a doctor or engineer 😂😭 ik he's right but we get it bro you paid a lot for your degree 😂
I think it's them invoking, "Professional Bias" where they can make a statement cuz of their Field of Work. It was definitely an "Armchair Critic" take still💀💀💀
@@sebastiancalderonpacheco8218 they're dumb because the sound you hear on stream has little in common with the sound you hear in real life and you had to wear ear plugs to be around those V12/V10/V8s so you couldn't hear them properly anyway.
@@sebastiancalderonpacheco8218 2021 sounds good tho. But what I hate is how heavy the car is. Sure, for it's heavy because of safety, etc. But I want a nimble car like the V8 era
@zklpr4661 they're still typically attached to absolutely heavy,poorly built, plastic-fantastic cars. The 4T65Ehd also is a downright mediocre transmission.
You guys still not convinced? Well then how about more V6 super/hypercars for ya? AMG ONE, Maserati MC20, Ferrari 296 GTB, Ferrari Codename F250, Honda NSX, There are too many, I can't list them all.
Just to further argue against "big displacement numbers scary", my last car was a Subaru STI, with the infamous 2.5L 4-cylinder, and it could barely manage 24mpg on a good day if I really tried hard to hypermile it. I traded that in for a Camaro with that same 6.2L V8 you mentioned (yes, I know it's tuned differently than the Corvette version). Despite being more than double the displacement size and 150 HP more, it easily gets 30mpg without really trying. I really wish we could unify vehicle emissions laws and base them entirely around a vehicle's weight, and eliminate stupid "chicken tax" type import laws.
The weight thing kind of hits with trucks now. That's why vehicles are growing, the size/weight dictates allowable emissions. Instead of making more efficient small shit, they're just making big shit.
@@mikhailshaw7030cylinder deactivation save you so much money, I don't know why people shun it, maybe because they don't have a choice whether to turn it off or not. But let's be honest, young car enthusiasts are broke as hell and very unwise with their spendings, petrol for cars is probably more expensive than keeping us alive with food and water.
The v6 has to be the most versatile engine layout to ever exist. It has been offered from small hatchbacks to pickups to trucks and vans all the way up to supercars and even modern f1 cars.
@@SahnigReingeloeteti dont recall modern F1 using inline 4’s. Where a V6 is versatile, an i4 is more accesible, thousands of young car guys grew up owning a 4 banger, bonus point for the cheap aftermarket exhaust!
@@koekiejam18 well, widespread V6 use is a pretty recent development in F1 as well… the particular engine I had in mind was the BMW M12 turbocharged 1.5 liter inline 4 engine (~1400hp in qualifying trim). But yeah, inline 4 engines are not that common in racing apart from motorcycles (Moto GP for example) and Rallye. But even in the former the inline 4 is mostly being replaced by V4 engines.
Someone saying "Mathematician here" then demonstrating exactly why engineering is a completely separate degree is always fun. Sure mathematically it makes sense to use 8 decimal places to balance an engine, but to do that you need to ignore things like THE ENTIRE FIELD OF MATERIALS SCIENCE, and machining tolerances, the physics of dynamic systems, and manufacturing tolerances.
@@Blackwing2345635i mean v6 is litteraly a worse v8. Takes up 90% of the room and weight while producing a quarter less power and being far more unbalanced.
this reminds me of how some people also think every Royal Enfield must have Kick Start because they think it's super Manly or a sign of a "Real Bike" but to me my Enfield will always be a Toy because...it's a single cylinder LOL Meanwhile my Porsche Night Rod and Yamaha R1 will gap my Royal Enfield x100 every day HAHAHA. No kick start on those bikes, but they're just as REAL and way more hard to ride!
Hearing a V9 would definitely be a experience I need to hear. I sometimes think that they will probably sound between a V8 but have that drone sound in deceleration like a V6.
There's a miliary museum about an hour's drive from me, and a lot of their WW2 American tanks, tank destroyers, and self-propelled artillery have Radial 9's, and they both look and sound like a bunch of Harley engines bolted together. It's glorious hearing those near-1000 cubic inches/16 liters of American fury start up and run.
Honestly, biggest problem with v14 is that the v12 is very close and it has perfect primary and secondary balance, without a pair of balancing shafts, so it's a lot of headace for no real benefit
I think he's confusing "perfect balance" with "even firing", but yeah, i7s and v14s are just too much math and manufacturing trickery compared to objectively superior and simpler i6s and v12s
"only country to land on the moon" meanwhile USSR: "hey guys! check out these cool pictures we got from the Unmanned probe on the *_Surface of Venus!"_*
When Lotus has been continuously calling up Toyota to put their 2gr in whatever new creation they come up with, that's how you know v6s are pretty chill.
What most people don't understand about the emissions era in the mid 70s on up is a lot of those cars would only require minimal work to achieve acceptable power numbers, the trans am from 1975-1981 is a perfect example of that Pontiac kept it going as long as they could, also you have to understand lead was taken out of gas and you need the lead to lubricate the valves on the high performance motors from the 60s and early 70s, so the later cylinder heads are not required to run leaded fuel making them better for street use today, however over 50 years aftermarket companies have been innovating and producing modern cylinder heads (also everything else) that are leagues ahead of what was made back then
you've been told some misinformation in that mix. the need for lead to lubricate valves was WAY exaggerated by the people who didn't understand that it was detuning that reduced performance, not emissions equipment. lead was always just a cheap anti knock additive first, and a lubricant, second.
@@kenbrown2808 that is an absolute lie DPF AND PCV systems destroy throttle bodies and the oil that gets recirced mixes with the gasoline knocking down octane. Also catalytic converters are a scam. It's been proven e85 alone can pass emotions even with up to 1200hp cars
I think the biggest bit that people miss is the switch from SAE gross to SAE net horsepower. Some 25% of an engines rated horsepower vanished overnight, and when you add in 3:1 axles for bandaid overdrive, you've got a recipe for rose tinted glasses. Nostalgiacs can't help but to point fingers when they compare cherry picked 400+ ghp homologation monsters to run of the mill v8s now making half what they "used to".
When they removed the lead, you couldn't get the same hi octane rated fuel, so the compression ratios came down. Plus high compression engines tend to produce more oxides of nitrogen (NOx), responsible for acid rain and other fun stuff, so compression ratios came down for those reasons too. With modern lead free high octane rated fuel, and electronic engine management we are back to high compression, high output engines again.
@@hatch450sx3 for real these Japanese V6 engines go crazy, don’t understand why there’s so many people snoozing on the outrageous potential of these engines.
@@BoatmayneThaUnsinkable no the 2jz and rb26 are inline 6. Not v6. I hate the V6 platform. They suck to work on, they barely save gas, and they are harder to make power on.
V6's are really underrated. Also people often say that v6s will never sound as good as a v8. And yes they sound different. But with the right setup a v6 can sound better than a lot of v8's
an example that I always give. If I had the money, I would rather buy an Audi RS4 station wagon than an RS6 station wagon. The RS6 with its TT 4L V8 sounds a bit like any other TT V8, but the RS4 has a very unique sound, as it has one of the smallest V6s with 2.9L, compared to the Ford GT and GT-R
I remember commenting on your thumbnails way back when most your vids hit sub 1000, now you cracked the code. This man really built a empire off of putting eyebrows on car photos 😂👌 chefs kiss. All i remember saying was the simple style grabbed me as you had a few bangers back then, just that easy
i have a twin turbo v12 mercedes, i had a good chuckle at your 3rd entry cause ill joke with my coworkers "just get a v12, all your problems will be solved"
Just a reminder to everyone in the early 70s on top of emmisions regulations choking engines manufacturers switched from gross to net HP. Meaning engines where no longer rated bare but with the full accessory drive attached so even if an engine made the same power it would then be rated lower due to power loss from things such as power steering pumps, alternators, etc.
The only reason subarus sound the way they do, and not like a porsche, is the unequal length exhaust. Now they aren't doing that, and porsche are. Plus firing order comes in play.
Subarus sound the way they do, and not like Porsche is because of unequal exhaust. Now they aren't doing that, and Porsche is doing it. Also firing order comes in play. That's one reason a V10 ram sounds nothing like a Viper. There are even and oddfire v6s.
Not only that but reliability and ease of working on too. Most v6s are stuck in cars that were made for 4 cylinders as a mechanic I hate v6 in a fwd format more than any other motors
And then you have the single most infinitely scalable, proven reliable engine design of all time: the inline 6 turbodiesel. Powering everything from passenger cars and light trucks to class 8 commercial trucks and even friggen trains, one design truly does rule them all, with the commercial truck version easily putting down 500+hp at a whopping 15L of displacement in some models (a couple good examples being the 1st gen Cummins ISX and the Caterpillar 3406). Not the greatest in the fuel economy category, but when you're pulling 80,000+lbs, 8mpg is hardly a number to scoff at
What I find funny people say V6s are slow and think that modern F1 cars are fast like bro that’s a hybrid V6 mate 🤣 Not to mention that same engine is in the AMG Project One
V6 hybrids are sleepers, the 2006 Toyota Highlander hybrid made over 260hp and absurd amounts of torque. The Acura RLX hybrid had the 0-60 of a small V8 with the fuel economy of a 4-cylinder, plus instantaneous torque vectoring between the left and right rear wheels.
Bladed, I don't mean to nitpick but the car at 10:12 is not a 1978, it's a 1979-1981 Trans Am. The ported headlamps were a change for '79 that succeeded the previous front end from the "bandit" cars of '77-78. By the way, thanks for showing my dream car in your video!! Yes, 182hp from a 403 Olds V8 is slow, but I think it's fun to drive a slow car fast, right? (Yes, it's a 403 Olds V8, there were two 6.6s for 1979, Pontiac 400 6.6 and Oldsmobile 403 6.6 which could be optioned based on which transmission you optioned) Anyways I love your videos keep it up!
I got a long time thought American v8s were gigantic, then I saw a 5.0 V8 coyote, an LS3, and a 6.2 hemi side by side. The hemi and LS were very similar in size while the coyote took up about 30% more space.
@@hatch450sx3 People always throw out the “with stock heads/cams” with the Coyote. People also don’t realize that the stock cams are considerably larger than a LS, especially for its displacement. Plus, it’s not like the Coyote heads outflow the typical L92/LS3 heads. Stock v stock, they flow similar… around 315-320 CFM. The main thing is that the Coyote has that flow on a considerably smaller engine. Combine the equal flow with bigger cam lobes on a smaller engine, you get something that doesn’t make as much torque (considerably less down low) but can match the HP by revving higher. There’s also the cost factor to consider. A set of Coyote cams cost as much as getting LS heads CNC ported (where they can flow more than Coyote heads). A LS cam can cost as little as $200 for a drop in NSR cam that can pick up 40+ hp alone (tuned stock vs tuned cammed). The irony is that many of these “small” NSR cams have similar duration to a Coyote… 210-212 @ 0.050” duration. And with it a LS ends up making peak HP around 6500 and easily revs to 7k. I’m not knocking the Coyote. It’s potent AF and a damn good engine. My point is that the LS is extremely mild from the factory, has good heads, and extremely capable.
LAZY emission standards ruin fun. Like making exceptions for big ass trucks, then doing nothing about it as the roads get flooded with SUVs that could sink the British Isles with their sheer girth. Or trying to ban all cars from before the 80s, as if there are millions of Goldenhawks and Model As roaming around polluting the air Logical standards are great. But politicians aren't logical, they're senile
The 1970s US engine issue was caused by the banning of using leaded gasoline. The EPA thought the technology existed and pushed the regulations through and the automakers scrambled to meet the demand. The removal of the lead additive significantly lowered the octane of the fuel, which required the detuning Bladed mentioned so that the detonation didn't destroy the engine.
The drop in compression and timing advance did lower power, but not nearly as much as emissions limits did. Rule of thumb is about 2-4% per point of compression. The leaded gas ban reduced octane, so higher compressions couldn’t be used. Prime example of this is the 1970 vs 1971 LT1 350. In 1970, it was 11:1 compression and rated at 350hp. In 1971, it was virtually the same except reduced compression to 9:1, and rated at 330hp… roughly a 6% decrease for 2 points of compression. Where the big power drops come is when they had to go with smaller cam to meet emissions standards that came in 1973. Gone were the big solid lifter cams and high revs, and out came the small hydraulic flat tappets to meet emissions. The 1972 LT1 (same as the 1971) was SAE net rated at 255hp (prior years were SAE gross rated). The performance engine that replaced it in 1973 was the L82 was rated at 205hp with the same 9:1 compression… a 20+% drop in power. Yes, the leaded gas ban had a noticeable effect on power, but the tailpipe emissions standards had a much greater effect.
@@stlchucko you're not wrong, however it's important to note that both things went together. The tailpipe emissions requirement necessitated the catalytic converter, and the lead additive would destroy the cat. So besides being toxic to all life forms, there's a second reason to ban it. The problem was that without the lead, the octane rating of the fuel dropped significantly, which is why compression had to drop. High compression and low octane gas means you get detonation, and I'm sure you know what that does to the innards of the engine.
@@andrewolson5471 Right. My point is that the other things required to meet emissions standards did more in reducing power. Even if it didn't destroy cats, unleaded gas still would have been banned, just like leaded paint for consumers in the 70s. The fact that it does destroy cats, it made sense that the mandatory leaded ban/cats required laws happened simultaneously.
The main problem with the v6 misconception is that while growing up v6 cars in video games werent really powerfull enough for most of us( at least they didnt feel like a better option), back in the day ( and nowadays as well) i usually buy the inline 4 soapboxes since they feel sometimes more powerfull than the v6 options( I beat nfs u2 with the honda civic from start to finish and mw 05 with the cobalt ss as well)
ngl that 2 door v6 accord is the car im working towards rn. That body style and spacious interior has always caught my eye. Honda knows how to make em efficient but still stylish
I'm so glad you called it stupid. I've noticed that the car community (the young ones) really do care about practicality or reason. Someone needs to say it.
4:00 You are probably right, but most engineering happens in radians because of its usefulness in trig and calculus, not in degrees. The problems are the logistics of using a non standard layouts. Look at how Koenigsegg has been trying for ages to use solenoid operated valves and how expensive that is. Solenoids are not exactly a new technology, but putting them in cars is very difficult because it hasn’t been done so it’s very expensive.
not only that i believe part of the problem is that they dont actually bring the benefits they marketed, at least not enough to warrant the extra complexity
The myth that American engines are big slow slugs really did come from the emissions era. I am glad you pointed out how just a decade before that era the American V8 s were very powerful for their time and competition.
Im a Mechanical Engineer, and yes, you can literally put as many cylinders as you want that can fullfill any car guy's wet dream in an engine and can math it out perfectly on paper or in CAD. But also as an Auto Mechanic, which I've done a fair share of repairing and machining car parts, implementing it in real life is like balancing on a tight rope blindfolded where laws of physics and thermodynamics are literally throwing rocks at you. Not to mention material science and logistics will do everything they can just to cut said rope.
my opinion on v6 is there are fewer moving parts so fewer places to have failures resulting in a overall more robust engine and the ecoboost v6 is a perfect example of that being tested in both the baja 1000 and lemans , thats enough for me to consider it GOOD
Honestly a well torqued and tunned v6 and v8 will beat every other engine, and I am a firm believer of the limits of the engine compared to others is what matters to me. I also humbly ask for a video of your favorite limited edition cars and tunned cars like a top 5 or 10 of each.
And a V12 is like two inline 6 sticks together. As for BMW and Toyota cases, that's a fact. Quick example, when you look at the engine diagram of the Toyota Century V12, it's just two 2JZ sticks together. The BMW modular engine system allows 3/4 cylinder, 6/8 cylinder and 12 cylinder configuration. I won't say your claim is completely incorrect, I'd say it's left to be decided.
@@iamcarl4591 I agree with it's just my personal preference since I personally like squeezing out extreme power from v6's and v8's meanwhile a v12 and v16 is more for special limited/one off cars.
Some of the best Ford European cars like the Capri or Granada used the cologne V6. The same engine was used in the Ford Ranger and is solidly reliable and has a nice sound.
Alfa Romeo's Busso V6 engine is such an easy counter-argument to everyone saying "V6s aRe lAmE", shame to see no-one else mention it in the comments I've read so far
The idea that you need a V8 to be fast and "cool" is an American-centric way of thinking. One of the best engines here in Australia is the Barra Inline-6 found in the Ford XR6 lineup. And yes, it even comes with a turbo variant.
Here is a misconception, The FIA banned rotary engines because they were to fast, the truth is the fia was just boring and trying to standardize all the engines in Class C at the time.
V6s can make good power, it was just that in the past, they were also, like most engines restricted in terms of power and performance, both in America, Europe and Asia. Like a 3 liter v6 in a Mitusbishi could make around 130-140 hp in the early 1990s for example, so it wasen`t just in America the engines were choked sadly. In America of course, we had the very stringent emissions and fuel consumption rules of the 70:s and 80:s which pretty much killed the power of most engines, from small 4 cylinders to big v8s, but as all that was relieved, and tech advanced power figures did go up, both for v6s and v8s, and todays v6s are alot more powerful than they ever been so. Here in Europe, emissions, high fuel costs and displacement costs in some countrys, like Italy, where cars, whit engines bigger than 2 liters were hit with higher taxes, that`s why many makes, made special 2 liter version for the Italian market. France also had high taxes on bigger engines, which like Italy lead to a big market for small engines in many European countrys, although here in Sweden, big cars and engines were often the norm, often around 2 liters and above. In Japan, there was an agreement that cars made in Japan could not have more than 280 hp, there is no doubt that the inline 6.s in the R32,R33 and R34 Skyline GTR and MK4 Supra could have made alot more power than they did, which tuners have shown over and over again, these engines had great potential and still do. Same is true for the first gen Honda NSX, whit it`s naturally aspirated 3 liter and later 3.2 liter v6, which is still regarded as one of the best sounding road going v6s engines you could find, that sound at 8000 rpm, was awesome. Some other great sounding v6s for me would be the Alfa Romeo Busso V6 engine, which was in production between 1979 and 2005, it is also regarded as one of the best, if not the best sounding road going v6 ever made, it was just sad that Alfa pulled out of America, since that engine could really sing for a whole concert hall, it also had chromed inlet pipes in it`s transversly mounted fwd form in the 90s and early 2000:s. Also the supercharged Toyota based V6 Lotus is using many of their cars now, sounds just fantastic aswell :) Also Fords 2.5 and 3 liter Duratec v6s are also a favorite of mine, especially the 2.5, not the most powerful, but the sound was just great :) It`s just sad that the turbo v6s of today don`t produce that same interesting sound sadly.
2 word : CAFE Standard ! Manufacturers who made more large trucks would have been allowed to meet a lower overall CAFE target, manufacturers who make more small trucks would have needed to meet a higher standard. What I'm saying is cars, sport cars and even Hyper cars downsize engines because they are smaller than trucks and must conform to stricter fuel/emission standards
To balance an engine, you have to consider rotational balance (720/whatever number of pistons) but also linear balance (the inertia of the pistons going up and down). And also the imbalance between the 2 sides of the engine (you want your pistons on each side of a boxer, for example, to conteract their inetia). The fact that you have to consider all of them makes it very difficult to balance an I7 engine, for example. Furthermore, manufacturers don't like to waste money, so when they develop an i4, they can put 2 together and get a V8, or with an i3, you can get a V6 and V12. But an i7 is a nightmare to balance, and where would you fit a V14 ? Thanks if you read through all of this ❤
@@akshaysankarshana2405 Because the judges would preface their results with "TLDR". I work in IT. I was floored when I heard one of our systems administrator managers say "TLDR" in response to a detailed strategy on how to remediate a technical challenge we were facing. I thought, "If leadership of a technical industry can't be bothered to read one page of documentation, is anyone going to read any technical documentation of any kind?" In short, I was shocked, disappointed, and a little depressed that day. My industry has been overrun by glorified users. Most of them can't do more than reinstall software to fix an issue. Once that doesn't work, they throw their hands in the air. Heaven help us all. Enjoy.
Interesting. But I would go further regarding engine balancing; Most cylinder layouts CANNOT be balanced, though one can reduce their vibrations with balance shafts, special crank arrangements, and flexible mountings.
Some kid really said I'm a kid who knows nothing about cars because I commented on a video of a supra Mk4 with drag slicks that it wouldn't do so well on corners... 😂
My current car is an 03 mustang with the v6 and honestly for a first sports car I’ve loved it, it’s been a good compromise on cost and learning to work on it
Bro, I'm just now getting into car modding because I have a 2017 Honda Accord V6 and was looking at turbo configurations and thought "hmmmm... seems like a twin set up might be best" and this is the universe telling me to do it.
Lest we forget the GNX V6 turbo. That thing was/is slept on for the exact reasons you talk about. Also my theory is that everything has become a numbers game about cars and everyone wants to one-up each other over them.
Does that give slightly better fuel economy to the US V8s, out of curiosity? It sounds to me like that means more acceleration is available for a given power rating, so at standard driving speeds, I would _assume_ that means less fuel needs to be burned per minute to maintain cruising speed
At 18, I delivered high-end luxury cars from/for Manchester Leasing (St Louis), where I was employed. The V-12 Jaguar was a severe let-down. I just KNEW it would be brutal…
The hilarious thing about talking about engine balancing is none of us are the ones who are gonna have to balance an engine. Oh gosh, the displacement argument. So like, the best thermal efficiency for an i4 is a slightly tall 2 liter (at least for NA, I'm not sure about once you put a turbo on it). The increased weight compared to a smaller engine is easily compensated for by that efficiency boost. Of course, because my car was made before this was figured out fully, it has a 1.3 liter to be super efficient. It's great almost always, but when it's well below freezing, this poor bean can't make enough to heat to keep itself at operating temperature.
Over here i grew up with the notion that grocery getters all have less than 6 cylinders. Cars like the Corsa, Gol (without the f), and the Clio. It was only after looking at what the north americans think that i discovered this "V6 bad" mentality It's funny
@@generaljesus9825 interesting. When i look at a Fusion with that shiny V6 badge i think "that sh*t should be powerful". Also doesn't help that the Camry is fairly rare and expensive here
@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious The thing about the U.S. market, is that we like performance cars. Back in the sixties, all the U.S. brands would have a 4.9 liter or less inline six, sub 200 horsepower. Or you could get upwards of 400 horsepower from a V8 option. That sort of standard spilled over through the seventies, and into the eighties. Around 1987, Buick made a turbocharged V6 that could propel faster than any 60's production V8, but the sentiment of the V8 still holds in our minds.
If that V12 swap involves taking an old WWII era Merlin and somehow shoehorning an 1,800hp, 1,600lb mass monster into your car, then yes, I'm interested
I used to drive a 2001 Honda Accord v6(I still have it, but I decided to upgrade to a mazda 6), and I loved it. It has 200k miles, and it still drives great and sounds amazing. I enjoyed just driving it and hitting vtec whenever possible and still getting 30 mpg+ even when redlining.
I think the v6 argument woukd have been so much better if you included that litteral formula 1 cars use a v6. Yeah its a hybrid and a twin turbo but its the platform of it
Something that needs to be said about displacement is that it’s relative. Cylinders with long strokes(like the ones in American V8s) have huge displacement but also huge compression. It’s a fundamentally different type of displacement than just making a bigger cylinder to burn more gas at the same compression(another way to get power)
When I think of V6s I always think Abt the french and Italian ones. My favorite pick for some reason is that Peugeot V6 in the DeLorean 😅 And the Busso violins of course
I knew a guy that had a V6 Accord that was pushing around 500hp, but it was a single turn not twin. There are still tons of cars that can be had for pretty cheap with a twin turbo V6 (mostly from Ford). The Ecoboost V6 is almost always paired with AWD as well so that's fun.
@@hatch450sx3 Easier and cheaper to install a turbo kit then it is to completely swap the engine. Always a better option, if you got the time or money though.
I remember people using the quote Enzo said about how "aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines" because the f80 was a v6 and apparently wasn't deserving to be one of ferrari's halo cars because it wasn't a v12, even though they took the v6 out of their le mans winning hypercar and made it produce 888hp on it's own, 1184hp with it's electric motor.
People are literally commenting on videos of Lotus asking them to put a V12 in their car. Like WTF!? Next to the fact Lotus has never even made a V12. It would not even fit in any of their cars. And a V12 just does not suit a Lotus.
in Europe, 6 pots are performance engines, rs4, rs5 are 2.9 v6, s4, s5 are 3.0 v6, the legendary n54 is a straight 6, b58, s55, s58 are all straight 6's with relatively small displacement(compared to giant american v8's) and make INSANE power. My e92 335i makes 650 wheel horsepower and that's a straight 6(still a twin turbo build, i refuse to single turbo it), I've decimated hellcats in drag races purely because my engine weighs about 180kg, whereas a 6.2 hemi is closer to 240, this is a HUGE weight difference in the engine alone.
I'm sorry but mfs come into comments like 'mathematician here' like they're a doctor or engineer 😂😭 ik he's right but we get it bro you paid a lot for your degree 😂
I think it's them invoking, "Professional Bias" where they can make a statement cuz of their Field of Work.
It was definitely an "Armchair Critic" take still💀💀💀
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@@BladedAngelopinion on the 296 gtb v6 sound compared to the sf90
@@BladedAngel Those comments were peak "ehrm, ackshually🤓☝"
Nerds that get locked up in lockers
The AMG One has a V6, and it sure as hell isn't lame!
Tell that to the f1 fans who complain about te v6 engines
@@sebastiancalderonpacheco8218 they're dumb because the sound you hear on stream has little in common with the sound you hear in real life and you had to wear ear plugs to be around those V12/V10/V8s so you couldn't hear them properly anyway.
@@sebastiancalderonpacheco8218 F1 V6 haters would short circuit their brains when they realize that the MP4/4 is a V6 lmao
@@sebastiancalderonpacheco8218 2021 sounds good tho.
But what I hate is how heavy the car is. Sure, for it's heavy because of safety, etc. But I want a nimble car like the V8 era
It doesn’t work 😭🙏
"V6s are lame" mfs when the 3800 starts burbling like a small block:
Okay, still sounds like shit past 2k
@@somedudenameddes0121 Horrible take. Get a ZZP exhaust to get rid of the rasp and they sound amazing, especially with an Eaton M90 blower.
I was gonna say 3800. For $10k you can buy a whole car and make it faster than a WRX. + supercharger noises
@zklpr4661 they're still typically attached to absolutely heavy,poorly built, plastic-fantastic cars. The 4T65Ehd also is a downright mediocre transmission.
@@jaydeeee668 so you're saying my 2005 buick lesabre could be made faster than a WRX?
For people who say v6 engines aren't worthy of a supercar tuning platform, may I present to you the vr38dett
And the next contestants, EcoBoost, and JRV-6 V6
You guys still not convinced? Well then how about more V6 super/hypercars for ya? AMG ONE, Maserati MC20, Ferrari 296 GTB, Ferrari Codename F250, Honda NSX, There are too many, I can't list them all.
it's like they forget about the 4cyl raced up engines then they sleep whenever they hear v6 engines
@@junjierbx_2 the JRV-6? really? That Waste of metal?
J35?
Just to further argue against "big displacement numbers scary", my last car was a Subaru STI, with the infamous 2.5L 4-cylinder, and it could barely manage 24mpg on a good day if I really tried hard to hypermile it. I traded that in for a Camaro with that same 6.2L V8 you mentioned (yes, I know it's tuned differently than the Corvette version). Despite being more than double the displacement size and 150 HP more, it easily gets 30mpg without really trying.
I really wish we could unify vehicle emissions laws and base them entirely around a vehicle's weight, and eliminate stupid "chicken tax" type import laws.
my sti on the low boost tune gets ~26 mpg, but my friends Silverado with a 6.2 gets over 30mpgs 😭
The weight thing kind of hits with trucks now. That's why vehicles are growing, the size/weight dictates allowable emissions. Instead of making more efficient small shit, they're just making big shit.
@@mikhailshaw7030cylinder deactivation save you so much money, I don't know why people shun it, maybe because they don't have a choice whether to turn it off or not. But let's be honest, young car enthusiasts are broke as hell and very unwise with their spendings, petrol for cars is probably more expensive than keeping us alive with food and water.
Its not 150 HP more😂 You have to compare WHP I bet your subaru will be verry close in WHP vz your camaro is rated on the crank
@totov7673 That's not far off. Newer Sti's come with 270, a earlier gen 6.2 ls put up about 425. 150hp difference.
The v6 has to be the most versatile engine layout to ever exist. It has been offered from small hatchbacks to pickups to trucks and vans all the way up to supercars and even modern f1 cars.
Well you can say the same about inline 4 engines
@@SahnigReingeloeteti dont recall modern F1 using inline 4’s.
Where a V6 is versatile, an i4 is more accesible, thousands of young car guys grew up owning a 4 banger, bonus point for the cheap aftermarket exhaust!
@@koekiejam18 well, widespread V6 use is a pretty recent development in F1 as well… the particular engine I had in mind was the BMW M12 turbocharged 1.5 liter inline 4 engine (~1400hp in qualifying trim). But yeah, inline 4 engines are not that common in racing apart from motorcycles (Moto GP for example) and Rallye. But even in the former the inline 4 is mostly being replaced by V4 engines.
@@koekiejam18 there were some F1 inline 4s though, just earlier
@@SahnigReingeloetetmajority of F1 cars in the 80s used the turbo V6 so it’s not a super recent development
I love how lotus took an economy motor and disguised it to the unassuming viewer as a performance motor
i was surprised he didn’t mention it cuz it’s basically the sleeper engine he wanted
Like the Rover K-series, for example
@@theyeetersgang7887 ye especially because of the way lotus evolved the 3gr to not only be supercharged but also flat-plane crank
Power:weight + handling has always kinda been Lotus' _thing._
Yes, the magic of Yamaha. From pianos to the best engines in the world, they got you covered
Someone saying "Mathematician here" then demonstrating exactly why engineering is a completely separate degree is always fun. Sure mathematically it makes sense to use 8 decimal places to balance an engine, but to do that you need to ignore things like THE ENTIRE FIELD OF MATERIALS SCIENCE, and machining tolerances, the physics of dynamic systems, and manufacturing tolerances.
You had a perfect opportunity to mention that F1 also uses V6 engines
Honestly, I mostly hear about v8 from muscle cars fans. And they can't care less about F1. And about anything, except engine sound and HP numbers.
yes bring up how the V6 era of F1 destroyed the beautiful simphony that was the v10 era
@@cj09beira Mercedes AMG One: 😐
@@cj09beira from performance point of view, engines became more powerful 🤷♂️
@@Blackwing2345635i mean v6 is litteraly a worse v8. Takes up 90% of the room and weight while producing a quarter less power and being far more unbalanced.
A Engine misconception in India is that every engine *requires* a carborator
this reminds me of how some people also think every Royal Enfield must have Kick Start because they think it's super Manly or a sign of a "Real Bike" but to me my Enfield will always be a Toy because...it's a single cylinder LOL
Meanwhile my Porsche Night Rod and Yamaha R1 will gap my Royal Enfield x100 every day HAHAHA. No kick start on those bikes, but they're just as REAL and way more hard to ride!
EFI tech only became common in the early 2ks in India, GDI just recently with Hyundai/kia in the last 5 years
Indian cars need carbs because they run from sewer water LOL
@@ghoulbuster1 do you even know how a carb works?
@@TheKingliestOfFishers by atomizing sewer water
But bladed... Where's the miata?
getting v12 swapped by a Forza kid
@@BladedAngelgetting built k24 turbo swapped for those with actual reasoning
@@BladedAngelAs the resident "Forza Kid" here (yes, I play quite a bit of forza), I have Rotary swapped it
But bladed... how is the miata?
@@VMT-KP bro, your gonna be on a watchlist
“Not as many grocery getters use V8’s”
All those Tahoes, Yukons, F150’s, and Silverados are all V8 powered grocery getters. 😂
why on earth is an f150 family car nowadays? it's a huge car!
Hearing a V9 would definitely be a experience I need to hear. I sometimes think that they will probably sound between a V8 but have that drone sound in deceleration like a V6.
There's a miliary museum about an hour's drive from me, and a lot of their WW2 American tanks, tank destroyers, and self-propelled artillery have Radial 9's, and they both look and sound like a bunch of Harley engines bolted together. It's glorious hearing those near-1000 cubic inches/16 liters of American fury start up and run.
I'll never forget the sound of the Honda RC211V, odd numbers of cylinders in a V is quite a noise!
@@Indicant Is that that weird V5 motorcycle engine?
@@sambrown6426 that's the one!
@@sambrown6426yup
Honestly, biggest problem with v14 is that the v12 is very close and it has perfect primary and secondary balance, without a pair of balancing shafts, so it's a lot of headace for no real benefit
I think he's confusing "perfect balance" with "even firing", but yeah, i7s and v14s are just too much math and manufacturing trickery compared to objectively superior and simpler i6s and v12s
"only country to land on the moon"
meanwhile USSR: "hey guys! check out these cool pictures we got from the Unmanned probe on the *_Surface of Venus!"_*
Ok, I will admit. The Soviets were cooking when it came to their Venusian Obsession!!
it's a shame the atmosphere of Venus cooked even harder though.
@@BladedAngel 🍳
*former country
But did they put a human on it
Commies keep taking Ls, shut up
When Lotus has been continuously calling up Toyota to put their 2gr in whatever new creation they come up with, that's how you know v6s are pretty chill.
Not to mention that some V6s are just their V8 counterparts, with two cylinders removed from the block - lookin' at you, GM 4.3L V6 (my beloved).
Bro named more than one v6 supercar (did research) spent a fat minute proving his self. Good video. Subscribed.
What most people don't understand about the emissions era in the mid 70s on up is a lot of those cars would only require minimal work to achieve acceptable power numbers, the trans am from 1975-1981 is a perfect example of that Pontiac kept it going as long as they could, also you have to understand lead was taken out of gas and you need the lead to lubricate the valves on the high performance motors from the 60s and early 70s, so the later cylinder heads are not required to run leaded fuel making them better for street use today, however over 50 years aftermarket companies have been innovating and producing modern cylinder heads (also everything else) that are leagues ahead of what was made back then
you've been told some misinformation in that mix. the need for lead to lubricate valves was WAY exaggerated by the people who didn't understand that it was detuning that reduced performance, not emissions equipment. lead was always just a cheap anti knock additive first, and a lubricant, second.
Epa are criminals overstepping voters and government for over 30 years they belong in jail.
@@kenbrown2808 that is an absolute lie DPF AND PCV systems destroy throttle bodies and the oil that gets recirced mixes with the gasoline knocking down octane. Also catalytic converters are a scam.
It's been proven e85 alone can pass emotions even with up to 1200hp cars
I think the biggest bit that people miss is the switch from SAE gross to SAE net horsepower. Some 25% of an engines rated horsepower vanished overnight, and when you add in 3:1 axles for bandaid overdrive, you've got a recipe for rose tinted glasses. Nostalgiacs can't help but to point fingers when they compare cherry picked 400+ ghp homologation monsters to run of the mill v8s now making half what they "used to".
When they removed the lead, you couldn't get the same hi octane rated fuel, so the compression ratios came down. Plus high compression engines tend to produce more oxides of nitrogen (NOx), responsible for acid rain and other fun stuff, so compression ratios came down for those reasons too. With modern lead free high octane rated fuel, and electronic engine management we are back to high compression, high output engines again.
3:15 as an engineer, this is the perfect example of theory vs practical applications (AKA physics vs engineering). Excellent explanation :)
“350Z’s sound like a trumpet” - yeah sure if you put a cheap exhaust underneath, and not a 5Zigen masterpiece
Still sounds like a trumpet. 😅
any engine sounds like a trumpet f you spin it fast enough. except a cummins. they sound like a washing machine falling down an escalator.
@@kenbrown2808the voice of experience….
I think its the way that the vq fires makes it just not sound too good
Same goes with the Honda civics
“V6s are lame”
VR38DETT: “allow me to introduce myself.”
2jz and Rb26dett: that's cute sit down kid.
@@hatch450sx3 for real these Japanese V6 engines go crazy, don’t understand why there’s so many people snoozing on the outrageous potential of these engines.
@@BoatmayneThaUnsinkable no the 2jz and rb26 are inline 6. Not v6. I hate the V6 platform. They suck to work on, they barely save gas, and they are harder to make power on.
@@hatch450sx3VR38 >>>>>>>
V6's are really underrated. Also people often say that v6s will never sound as good as a v8. And yes they sound different. But with the right setup a v6 can sound better than a lot of v8's
my 2002 accord with the mufflers cut off sounded better than any v8 larger than 4.8L
an example that I always give. If I had the money, I would rather buy an Audi RS4 station wagon than an RS6 station wagon. The RS6 with its TT 4L V8 sounds a bit like any other TT V8, but the RS4 has a very unique sound, as it has one of the smallest V6s with 2.9L, compared to the Ford GT and GT-R
@@jtjoemamma CG gang🤘, i got a 01 coupe. Haven't done the muffler delete just yet, but plan on it soon
a good V-6 sounds better than a bad V-8, but not much sounds better than a classic V-8 at idle.
Not all v8s even sound good, anyway.
I remember commenting on your thumbnails way back when most your vids hit sub 1000, now you cracked the code. This man really built a empire off of putting eyebrows on car photos 😂👌
chefs kiss.
All i remember saying was the simple style grabbed me as you had a few bangers back then, just that easy
The best V6 ever made was made by Buick. Change my mind.
Are you talking about the LZ9 3900 in my 2009 Buick Lucerne? They're quite possibly one of the most advanced pushrod V6es ever made.
@@sambrown6426he probably means the grand national
@@romie-777 Yeah, that's fair.
The 3800 is an absolute gem of a v6
@@sambrown6426 god no. he's talking about the bullet proof reliable 3.8 V6
i have a twin turbo v12 mercedes, i had a good chuckle at your 3rd entry cause ill joke with my coworkers "just get a v12, all your problems will be solved"
And what car would that be? It's not the Pagani Huayra, is it?
@@sambrown6426 2004 mercedes SL600
@@sambrown6426 I would guess an SL65 or CL65 AMG.
@@TopiasSalakka Or even a CL600
@@rahulmandala4930 I forgot those came with the twin turbo during later years 🗿
Earlier models were NA.
Just a reminder to everyone in the early 70s on top of emmisions regulations choking engines manufacturers switched from gross to net HP. Meaning engines where no longer rated bare but with the full accessory drive attached so even if an engine made the same power it would then be rated lower due to power loss from things such as power steering pumps, alternators, etc.
V-6 still sounds better than a riced out 4.
V6 and riced out 4 both sound good, exhaust is important though to get the specific sound u may prefer.
@@kapparaaliach not having decent exhaust is one of the symptoms of a riced out 4.
Rice
@@kenbrown2808 Fair enough
@@kapparaaliachriced out 4 cylinder engines sound awful.
I believe the reason alot of people dont like v6 but like flat 6 and inline 6 is because of the sound, its very rare you hear a v6 sound exotic.
Fair
The only reason subarus sound the way they do, and not like a porsche, is the unequal length exhaust. Now they aren't doing that, and porsche are. Plus firing order comes in play.
Subarus sound the way they do, and not like Porsche is because of unequal exhaust. Now they aren't doing that, and Porsche is doing it. Also firing order comes in play. That's one reason a V10 ram sounds nothing like a Viper. There are even and oddfire v6s.
I will admit, I am a bit biased towards flat six engines, but not because of porsche or subaru, but because of the Corvair and the Tucker 48.
Not only that but reliability and ease of working on too. Most v6s are stuck in cars that were made for 4 cylinders as a mechanic I hate v6 in a fwd format more than any other motors
"V6 engines are slow" modern F1 cars: "am i a joke to you?"
Yes you are, modern F1 cars rely on gimmicks and other things to go faster than older cars. And 2026 cars will be a massive joke.
@@deathtrooper2048 that doesn't change the fact that they are going fast as hell with a V6 tho
And then you have the single most infinitely scalable, proven reliable engine design of all time: the inline 6 turbodiesel. Powering everything from passenger cars and light trucks to class 8 commercial trucks and even friggen trains, one design truly does rule them all, with the commercial truck version easily putting down 500+hp at a whopping 15L of displacement in some models (a couple good examples being the 1st gen Cummins ISX and the Caterpillar 3406). Not the greatest in the fuel economy category, but when you're pulling 80,000+lbs, 8mpg is hardly a number to scoff at
What I find funny people say V6s are slow and think that modern F1 cars are fast like bro that’s a hybrid V6 mate 🤣
Not to mention that same engine is in the AMG Project One
V6 hybrids are sleepers, the 2006 Toyota Highlander hybrid made over 260hp and absurd amounts of torque. The Acura RLX hybrid had the 0-60 of a small V8 with the fuel economy of a 4-cylinder, plus instantaneous torque vectoring between the left and right rear wheels.
@@aspecreviews Fr V6s need a bit more respect
“mathematician here” is something someone who doesnt know anything about math would say before commenting about marh
“Mathematician here” -> “im a liar because ‘mathematician’ isnt a job”
I just got this on my recommended. I like your content and I’m definitely subscribing.
when a mathematician thinks they are a mechanic...
Bladed, I don't mean to nitpick but the car at 10:12 is not a 1978, it's a 1979-1981 Trans Am. The ported headlamps were a change for '79 that succeeded the previous front end from the "bandit" cars of '77-78.
By the way, thanks for showing my dream car in your video!! Yes, 182hp from a 403 Olds V8 is slow, but I think it's fun to drive a slow car fast, right?
(Yes, it's a 403 Olds V8, there were two 6.6s for 1979, Pontiac 400 6.6 and Oldsmobile 403 6.6 which could be optioned based on which transmission you optioned)
Anyways I love your videos keep it up!
I got a long time thought American v8s were gigantic, then I saw a 5.0 V8 coyote, an LS3, and a 6.2 hemi side by side. The hemi and LS were very similar in size while the coyote took up about 30% more space.
It's only the heads and the coyote flows so efficiently it can make over 1000whp with stock heads and cams.
@@hatch450sx3 People always throw out the “with stock heads/cams” with the Coyote. People also don’t realize that the stock cams are considerably larger than a LS, especially for its displacement. Plus, it’s not like the Coyote heads outflow the typical L92/LS3 heads. Stock v stock, they flow similar… around 315-320 CFM. The main thing is that the Coyote has that flow on a considerably smaller engine. Combine the equal flow with bigger cam lobes on a smaller engine, you get something that doesn’t make as much torque (considerably less down low) but can match the HP by revving higher.
There’s also the cost factor to consider. A set of Coyote cams cost as much as getting LS heads CNC ported (where they can flow more than Coyote heads). A LS cam can cost as little as $200 for a drop in NSR cam that can pick up 40+ hp alone (tuned stock vs tuned cammed). The irony is that many of these “small” NSR cams have similar duration to a Coyote… 210-212 @ 0.050” duration. And with it a LS ends up making peak HP around 6500 and easily revs to 7k.
I’m not knocking the Coyote. It’s potent AF and a damn good engine. My point is that the LS is extremely mild from the factory, has good heads, and extremely capable.
The "V6s don't belong in supercars" crowd most likely drive a 80 years old V8 with 8 liters of displacement for a whopping 207 HP.
I always thought V6 engines are cool, but Flat 6 has always had a special place in my heart
Cool video! The V6 isn't lame at all. Lon time ago we had a Grand Caravan with V6. It was really fun to drive.
1:07 emissions standards ruin fun
They ruin fun, simplicity, and reliability
Air pollution ruin lungs and cardiovascular systems.
LAZY emission standards ruin fun. Like making exceptions for big ass trucks, then doing nothing about it as the roads get flooded with SUVs that could sink the British Isles with their sheer girth. Or trying to ban all cars from before the 80s, as if there are millions of Goldenhawks and Model As roaming around polluting the air
Logical standards are great. But politicians aren't logical, they're senile
Emissions ruin your lungs.
Been here for a few years love your content
2:10 I want to see one of these without any cosmetic mods PLEASE
engineers will often devide a circle into 720 degrees as it allows us to use whole numbers for .5 degree differences
not true
The 1970s US engine issue was caused by the banning of using leaded gasoline. The EPA thought the technology existed and pushed the regulations through and the automakers scrambled to meet the demand. The removal of the lead additive significantly lowered the octane of the fuel, which required the detuning Bladed mentioned so that the detonation didn't destroy the engine.
The drop in compression and timing advance did lower power, but not nearly as much as emissions limits did. Rule of thumb is about 2-4% per point of compression. The leaded gas ban reduced octane, so higher compressions couldn’t be used.
Prime example of this is the 1970 vs 1971 LT1 350. In 1970, it was 11:1 compression and rated at 350hp. In 1971, it was virtually the same except reduced compression to 9:1, and rated at 330hp… roughly a 6% decrease for 2 points of compression.
Where the big power drops come is when they had to go with smaller cam to meet emissions standards that came in 1973. Gone were the big solid lifter cams and high revs, and out came the small hydraulic flat tappets to meet emissions. The 1972 LT1 (same as the 1971) was SAE net rated at 255hp (prior years were SAE gross rated). The performance engine that replaced it in 1973 was the L82 was rated at 205hp with the same 9:1 compression… a 20+% drop in power.
Yes, the leaded gas ban had a noticeable effect on power, but the tailpipe emissions standards had a much greater effect.
@@stlchucko you're not wrong, however it's important to note that both things went together. The tailpipe emissions requirement necessitated the catalytic converter, and the lead additive would destroy the cat. So besides being toxic to all life forms, there's a second reason to ban it. The problem was that without the lead, the octane rating of the fuel dropped significantly, which is why compression had to drop. High compression and low octane gas means you get detonation, and I'm sure you know what that does to the innards of the engine.
@@andrewolson5471 Right. My point is that the other things required to meet emissions standards did more in reducing power.
Even if it didn't destroy cats, unleaded gas still would have been banned, just like leaded paint for consumers in the 70s. The fact that it does destroy cats, it made sense that the mandatory leaded ban/cats required laws happened simultaneously.
The main problem with the v6 misconception is that while growing up v6 cars in video games werent really powerfull enough for most of us( at least they didnt feel like a better option), back in the day ( and nowadays as well) i usually buy the inline 4 soapboxes since they feel sometimes more powerfull than the v6 options( I beat nfs u2 with the honda civic from start to finish and mw 05 with the cobalt ss as well)
Golf VR6: Am I a joke to you?
ngl that 2 door v6 accord is the car im working towards rn. That body style and spacious interior has always caught my eye. Honda knows how to make em efficient but still stylish
The existence of Nissan Altima V6 is the reason V12 isn’t the fastest engine😅
To be fair, Big Altima Energy is like the Florida Man of cars
I'm so glad you called it stupid. I've noticed that the car community (the young ones) really do care about practicality or reason. Someone needs to say it.
4:00 You are probably right, but most engineering happens in radians because of its usefulness in trig and calculus, not in degrees. The problems are the logistics of using a non standard layouts. Look at how Koenigsegg has been trying for ages to use solenoid operated valves and how expensive that is. Solenoids are not exactly a new technology, but putting them in cars is very difficult because it hasn’t been done so it’s very expensive.
not only that i believe part of the problem is that they dont actually bring the benefits they marketed, at least not enough to warrant the extra complexity
@@cj09beira Right, or at least not enough of the benefits to warrant the expense
The myth that American engines are big slow slugs really did come from the emissions era. I am glad you pointed out how just a decade before that era the American V8 s were very powerful for their time and competition.
Im a Mechanical Engineer, and yes, you can literally put as many cylinders as you want that can fullfill any car guy's wet dream in an engine and can math it out perfectly on paper or in CAD. But also as an Auto Mechanic, which I've done a fair share of repairing and machining car parts, implementing it in real life is like balancing on a tight rope blindfolded where laws of physics and thermodynamics are literally throwing rocks at you. Not to mention material science and logistics will do everything they can just to cut said rope.
Engineer proving ehy engineering is an separate degree
Speaking of V6. GMC Syclone, Typhoon and Buick Grand National should've been talked about too. Those things were badass.
supercharged v6 daily is fun
Remember when the v6 accord was one of the biggest sleeper trolls in 2008
all those v12 swap kids wait until they realize the ls3 swap and viper v10 swaps are more efficient than their over glorified v12
I don’t think anyone using a V12 as a swap has efficiency in mind
@@MrOiram46 you are thinking the wrong term of efficiency. He means power efficiency. Power to weight ease of making power.
my opinion on v6 is there are fewer moving parts so fewer places to have failures resulting in a overall more robust engine and the ecoboost v6 is a perfect example of that being tested in both the baja 1000 and lemans , thats enough for me to consider it GOOD
Honestly a well torqued and tunned v6 and v8 will beat every other engine, and I am a firm believer of the limits of the engine compared to others is what matters to me. I also humbly ask for a video of your favorite limited edition cars and tunned cars like a top 5 or 10 of each.
And a V12 is like two inline 6 sticks together. As for BMW and Toyota cases, that's a fact. Quick example, when you look at the engine diagram of the Toyota Century V12, it's just two 2JZ sticks together. The BMW modular engine system allows 3/4 cylinder, 6/8 cylinder and 12 cylinder configuration.
I won't say your claim is completely incorrect, I'd say it's left to be decided.
@@iamcarl4591 I agree with it's just my personal preference since I personally like squeezing out extreme power from v6's and v8's meanwhile a v12 and v16 is more for special limited/one off cars.
2:00
"Mom may I borrow your van for like a week?"
"What for?"
"Oh just a trip with my friends ;)"
1.9 tdi raw raw
Rawraw
The Balkan chariot
From sebiria over Europa and the mediterrane sea to Afrika the engine I would pick every time again raw raw raw
Some of the best Ford European cars like the Capri or Granada used the cologne V6. The same engine was used in the Ford Ranger and is solidly reliable and has a nice sound.
Me laughing in inline 5
Wich model??
@@totov7673 08 vw rabbit 2.5
me laughing in bicycle
@@charliered420 Dont worry bro we all been there its just luck
Alfa Romeo's Busso V6 engine is such an easy counter-argument to everyone saying "V6s aRe lAmE", shame to see no-one else mention it in the comments I've read so far
honda nsx super gt entering.
0:32 is it just me or does that mustang look raised
Facts😂😂😂😂😂
it is
With the C8 ZR1 being revealed, it's safe to say that shows just how much power these American V8 engines can make (1064 hp out of a 5.5L V8)
The idea that you need a V8 to be fast and "cool" is an American-centric way of thinking. One of the best engines here in Australia is the Barra Inline-6 found in the Ford XR6 lineup. And yes, it even comes with a turbo variant.
Or like in EU we have a 4 inline 2000cc turbo that will smoke any V8 american or a 5 inline 2500cc turbo.
@@totov7673 I always find it funny when a 4 cylinder beats an 8 cylinder. Power-to-weight all the way!
@@TimSlee1 🤣 exactly bro its all about power to weight and traction. 👏🏽 finnaly someone understands.
@@totov7673. It has a turbo, what happens when you add turbos to motors🤦🏻♂️
@@bri-manhunter2654 Boost!! and instant torque aceleration power!
Here is a misconception, The FIA banned rotary engines because they were to fast, the truth is the fia was just boring and trying to standardize all the engines in Class C at the time.
2004 Ford Escape with 3.0 v6 24 valve. 140kph Calgary to Edmonton, passed several sheriff cars. Went and saw Weird AL in concert. Best concert ever.
V6s can make good power, it was just that in the past, they were also, like most engines restricted in terms of power and performance, both in America, Europe and Asia.
Like a 3 liter v6 in a Mitusbishi could make around 130-140 hp in the early 1990s for example, so it wasen`t just in America the engines were choked sadly.
In America of course, we had the very stringent emissions and fuel consumption rules of the 70:s and 80:s which pretty much killed the power of most engines, from small 4 cylinders to big v8s, but as all that was relieved, and tech advanced power figures did go up, both for v6s and v8s, and todays v6s are alot more powerful than they ever been so.
Here in Europe, emissions, high fuel costs and displacement costs in some countrys, like Italy, where cars, whit engines bigger than 2 liters were hit with higher taxes, that`s why many makes, made special 2 liter version for the Italian market.
France also had high taxes on bigger engines, which like Italy lead to a big market for small engines in many European countrys, although here in Sweden, big cars and engines were often the norm, often around 2 liters and above.
In Japan, there was an agreement that cars made in Japan could not have more than 280 hp, there is no doubt that the inline 6.s in the R32,R33 and R34 Skyline GTR and MK4 Supra could have made alot more power than they did, which tuners have shown over and over again, these engines had great potential and still do.
Same is true for the first gen Honda NSX, whit it`s naturally aspirated 3 liter and later 3.2 liter v6, which is still regarded as one of the best sounding road going v6s engines you could find, that sound at 8000 rpm, was awesome.
Some other great sounding v6s for me would be the Alfa Romeo Busso V6 engine, which was in production between 1979 and 2005, it is also regarded as one of the best, if not the best sounding road going v6 ever made, it was just sad that Alfa pulled out of America, since that engine could really sing for a whole concert hall, it also had chromed inlet pipes in it`s transversly mounted fwd form in the 90s and early 2000:s.
Also the supercharged Toyota based V6 Lotus is using many of their cars now, sounds just fantastic aswell :)
Also Fords 2.5 and 3 liter Duratec v6s are also a favorite of mine, especially the 2.5, not the most powerful, but the sound was just great :)
It`s just sad that the turbo v6s of today don`t produce that same interesting sound sadly.
2 word : CAFE Standard !
Manufacturers who made more large trucks would have been allowed to meet a lower overall CAFE target, manufacturers who make more small trucks would have needed to meet a higher standard.
What I'm saying is cars, sport cars and even Hyper cars downsize engines because they are smaller than trucks and must conform to stricter fuel/emission standards
To balance an engine, you have to consider rotational balance (720/whatever number of pistons) but also linear balance (the inertia of the pistons going up and down). And also the imbalance between the 2 sides of the engine (you want your pistons on each side of a boxer, for example, to conteract their inetia). The fact that you have to consider all of them makes it very difficult to balance an I7 engine, for example. Furthermore, manufacturers don't like to waste money, so when they develop an i4, they can put 2 together and get a V8, or with an i3, you can get a V6 and V12. But an i7 is a nightmare to balance, and where would you fit a V14 ? Thanks if you read through all of this ❤
I read most comments on the videos I watch, truth be told.
I've written longer dissertations.
Cheers.
@@christopherlowery855 Same here, lol. I sometimes wonder why have I never been to essay writing competitions.
@@akshaysankarshana2405 Because the judges would preface their results with "TLDR". I work in IT. I was floored when I heard one of our systems administrator managers say "TLDR" in response to a detailed strategy on how to remediate a technical challenge we were facing.
I thought, "If leadership of a technical industry can't be bothered to read one page of documentation, is anyone going to read any technical documentation of any kind?" In short, I was shocked, disappointed, and a little depressed that day.
My industry has been overrun by glorified users. Most of them can't do more than reinstall software to fix an issue. Once that doesn't work, they throw their hands in the air.
Heaven help us all.
Enjoy.
Interesting. But I would go further regarding engine balancing; Most cylinder layouts CANNOT be balanced, though one can reduce their vibrations with balance shafts, special crank arrangements, and flexible mountings.
Some kid really said I'm a kid who knows nothing about cars because I commented on a video of a supra Mk4 with drag slicks that it wouldn't do so well on corners... 😂
My current car is an 03 mustang with the v6 and honestly for a first sports car I’ve loved it, it’s been a good compromise on cost and learning to work on it
When you drive a coyote s197 your opinion will change.
Bro, I'm just now getting into car modding because I have a 2017 Honda Accord V6 and was looking at turbo configurations and thought "hmmmm... seems like a twin set up might be best" and this is the universe telling me to do it.
Lest we forget the GNX V6 turbo. That thing was/is slept on for the exact reasons you talk about.
Also my theory is that everything has become a numbers game about cars and everyone wants to one-up each other over them.
you completely forget that Europeam v8s are typically set up for higher rpm hp where American v8s are designed with extremely flat torque curves
Does that give slightly better fuel economy to the US V8s, out of curiosity? It sounds to me like that means more acceleration is available for a given power rating, so at standard driving speeds, I would _assume_ that means less fuel needs to be burned per minute to maintain cruising speed
I just found this channel. I'm going to bing watch your videos.
At 18, I delivered high-end luxury cars from/for Manchester Leasing (St Louis), where I was employed. The V-12 Jaguar was a severe let-down. I just KNEW it would be brutal…
The hilarious thing about talking about engine balancing is none of us are the ones who are gonna have to balance an engine.
Oh gosh, the displacement argument. So like, the best thermal efficiency for an i4 is a slightly tall 2 liter (at least for NA, I'm not sure about once you put a turbo on it). The increased weight compared to a smaller engine is easily compensated for by that efficiency boost. Of course, because my car was made before this was figured out fully, it has a 1.3 liter to be super efficient. It's great almost always, but when it's well below freezing, this poor bean can't make enough to heat to keep itself at operating temperature.
i was at the Hockenheimring and there was a KTM, it had a Inline 5... yes 5
This got very emotional and my only regret was not having popcorn at hand lol
I wish Bladed was my mechanical engineering teacher. He makes very clear and short explanations
Over here i grew up with the notion that grocery getters all have less than 6 cylinders. Cars like the Corsa, Gol (without the f), and the Clio. It was only after looking at what the north americans think that i discovered this "V6 bad" mentality
It's funny
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious Six cylinder engines have had a grocery getter application ever since the V8 came into play.
@@generaljesus9825 interesting. When i look at a Fusion with that shiny V6 badge i think "that sh*t should be powerful". Also doesn't help that the Camry is fairly rare and expensive here
@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious The thing about the U.S. market, is that we like performance cars. Back in the sixties, all the U.S. brands would have a 4.9 liter or less inline six, sub 200 horsepower. Or you could get upwards of 400 horsepower from a V8 option. That sort of standard spilled over through the seventies, and into the eighties. Around 1987, Buick made a turbocharged V6 that could propel faster than any 60's production V8, but the sentiment of the V8 still holds in our minds.
If that V12 swap involves taking an old WWII era Merlin and somehow shoehorning an 1,800hp, 1,600lb mass monster into your car, then yes, I'm interested
I used to drive a 2001 Honda Accord v6(I still have it, but I decided to upgrade to a mazda 6), and I loved it. It has 200k miles, and it still drives great and sounds amazing. I enjoyed just driving it and hitting vtec whenever possible and still getting 30 mpg+ even when redlining.
I think the v6 argument woukd have been so much better if you included that litteral formula 1 cars use a v6. Yeah its a hybrid and a twin turbo but its the platform of it
Something that needs to be said about displacement is that it’s relative. Cylinders with long strokes(like the ones in American V8s) have huge displacement but also huge compression. It’s a fundamentally different type of displacement than just making a bigger cylinder to burn more gas at the same compression(another way to get power)
My 4th Gen v6 SHO would really like to have a chat with anyone who says v6s can't be fast
"v6's are lame!!"
>me making 20% horsepower gains on compression "yeah, theyre so lame bro."
in the eu, especially in eastern europe if it has more than 4 cylinders its 'sporty'
When I think of V6s I always think Abt the french and Italian ones.
My favorite pick for some reason is that Peugeot V6 in the DeLorean 😅
And the Busso violins of course
I knew a guy that had a V6 Accord that was pushing around 500hp, but it was a single turn not twin. There are still tons of cars that can be had for pretty cheap with a twin turbo V6 (mostly from Ford). The Ecoboost V6 is almost always paired with AWD as well so that's fun.
What's the point of boosting the V6 for 500hp when k20 stock motors are now holding 800whp and converted to AWD.
@@hatch450sx3 Easier and cheaper to install a turbo kit then it is to completely swap the engine. Always a better option, if you got the time or money though.
I remember people using the quote Enzo said about how "aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines" because the f80 was a v6 and apparently wasn't deserving to be one of ferrari's halo cars because it wasn't a v12, even though they took the v6 out of their le mans winning hypercar and made it produce 888hp on it's own, 1184hp with it's electric motor.
People are literally commenting on videos of Lotus asking them to put a V12 in their car. Like WTF!? Next to the fact Lotus has never even made a V12. It would not even fit in any of their cars. And a V12 just does not suit a Lotus.
Lamborghini owners after V12 swapping their Aventador:
in Europe, 6 pots are performance engines, rs4, rs5 are 2.9 v6, s4, s5 are 3.0 v6, the legendary n54 is a straight 6, b58, s55, s58 are all straight 6's with relatively small displacement(compared to giant american v8's) and make INSANE power.
My e92 335i makes 650 wheel horsepower and that's a straight 6(still a twin turbo build, i refuse to single turbo it), I've decimated hellcats in drag races purely because my engine weighs about 180kg, whereas a 6.2 hemi is closer to 240, this is a HUGE weight difference in the engine alone.
Everyone: "why use the V6???!!!😡"
Automakers: "ITS THE LAW!"
Something like that?
At this point, I will learn more about cars from Bladed than from anyone else or any other place
Driving for Answers
Look it up, will blow your mind.